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Hi everyone.
Id like to start a thread where we collect, post and discuss all known individual tweaks and changes that can be made to the Galaxy Tab in order to gain performance and stability.
My experience with the Galaxy Tab has been similar to my latest phone, an HTC HD2. When I got the HD2 about one year ago, I positively hated it... slow, unstable, all sorts of problems, lags, crashes... its the way most of the hardware today is released. One year later, my HD2 has become the most amazing machine I've ever owned. From pushing it 1.6GHz stable, to tweaking registry, XML files, services and making everything work well. I remember not being able to watch smooth video on the HD2 to being able to watch flawlessly 720p content and going from the extreme of detesting the phone to loving it.
It was with the HD2 I discovered Android and fell in love with it. Since I have now two HD2s I have one with an SD ROM version of Gingerbread (that I can dual boot still from Windows Mobile) and a Froyo NAND. I run Android on the HD2 much much much faster and smoother than on the Galaxy Tab, that I also hated when I bought it a few weeks and that am starting to like after getting to know it, a new ROM, apps, etc. Even at 1GHz stock the HD2 with Froyo is vastly faster, smoother, more responsive and better to use. The approach d like to do as far as tweaking the Galaxy Tab is the same as I did for the HD2 with Windows Mobile, that is, install the best/fastest ROM I can, delete and remove all stuff I don't need and then tweak what's left.
The tweaks I've done so far on the Galaxy are simple but have made a huge difference. Id like with this thread to be able to collect individual tweaks and post them all here to share with everyone.
Im using Roto JMI Pre-Rooted Firmware v2 which was the main step after getting rid of the stock Samsung Rom that is nothing but a collection of problems.
The first thing I learned with this Tab is that WHATEVER IS ON YOUR HOME SCREENS THAT MOVES, IS BAD! Forget about having ANY type of apps or widgets that do any type of refresh, including stuff running on the upper task bar if they change icons or the move around… that mean a CPU cycle and refresh each time and there goes the tab's performance and battery life. The same goes for any type of Live Wallpaper. Beautiful but deadly. Never touch them!
- So, after a new ROM, the first thing I did was changing the file system to EXT4. This is the SINGLE BEST THING you can do to radically improve the performance of the Tab. Its extremely easy to do and the step-by-step instructions are as follow:
- Make sure you have an miniSD Card in with plenty of available space (it will be used automatically to backup your system during the conversion process)
- Get p1000-mck-r3-ext4-cwm.tar (the EXT4 Conversion Kernel)
- Connect the Tab in Downloading Mode to your PC via USB, start Odin3 1.7 and load the Kernel (click on the PDA button and select the p1000-mck-r3-ext4-cwm.tar and make sure PDA stays ticked after selecting the file).
- UNTICK Re-Partition check box and make sure the only boxes ticked are:
Auto Reboot
F. Reset Time
The PDA tickbox
- Click start and wait for PASS! (it will show highlighted green or Yellow on Odin)
- Now the Tab will restart and get stuck on the Samsung loading screen. This is normal. Turn it off by holding the power button for 5 seconds.
- Turn on the Tab again on into RECOVERY mode (Press Volume UP and Power On at the same time) and the EXT4 conversion will start automatically. The process will take up to one hour depending on how much stuff you have on your Tab. It took about 10 minutes on mine because I have a fresh install of Roto JMI v2.
- Once finished, click "Reboot System Now" (by pressing the power button).
- The reboot may take a while first time so be patient!
- Done!
- After that, the first tweak I did was to get rid of all my favorite widgets that moved around… net meter, news, weather and all these beautiful things KILL the Tab. Equally I had a CPU meter on the tray refreshing every 2 seconds and it took me a while to figure out that was the reason why every 2 seconds the system would stutter, whether watching a movie or browsing the web. So, out!
- Next was to install SetCPU under the ON DEMAND setting, minimum around 750MHz and maximum 1000MHz (unfortunately only with a custom Kernel you can go higher, currently up to 1.4GHz but not full stable and with lots of issues pending so I don’t recommend it)
- My following step was to get rid of the stock Samsung Homescreen (that is a resource hog and slow as hell) and replace it with a new one. I've tried them all and am making no recommendation here but the one that works for me and is by far the best IMO is LauncherPro. This single app makes using the Tab a whole better experience.
- Next was to disable the USELESS and (resource pig) Gallery and replace it with an app called QuickPic that is blazing fast (actually instant) and simply amazing to browse and view all media on the Tab.
- Next was to greatly improve the poor native GPS reception by replacing high performance files and drivers from the Orange Rom P1000JHKA1 that seems to work on all versions of the Tab, as originally posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922692
- With SystemApp Remover 4.12 I have disabled all system apps and services I don’t need (BE VERY CAREFUL AND DON'T REMOVE ROM APPS YOU WILL NEED). I have actually deleted some from ROM (Root access required of course), this includes useless stuff like STK Service starting every time, most of the Samsung stuff that I really don’t care for and just about all apps I know for sure I will never open a single time. Now, its important to understand if these apps are removed they will be removed PERMANENTLY from ROM so to get the back a hard reset will not be enough, you'll have to fully flash the ROM again. For most system apps I don’t use but am not sure, I use a different option and that is to simply disable them. In my case this includes all Bluetooth stuff (I never use it and even if it's off the Services are still running robbing performance and memory) and apps like the built-in Browser, Email and Messaging that suck and that I replaced with better apps. Its always a safer bet, at least initially to disable the apps you don’t need that uninstall them because at least you can go back and change your mind This is one area where Id like to learn more. There are many background services that I don’t know what they do and if they can be disabled or not. If someone knows what each one does and the safety of getting rid of them OR NOT, it would be great to post it here!
- Them, with Startup Auditor 2.3.2 I have disabled all unnecessary apps that start automatically every time the Tab boots so I don't have excess applications starting up that are not needed. Some I configured to be killed AGAIN if the system tries to restart them later after the boot-up
- Using Task Manager 1.0.7 and letting always run on background, I have configured all apps that I don’t need running to be auto-killed every time the phone goes to stand-by (screen off). This saves me lots of memory and CPU time on apps that I am actually not using.
- Finally, I monitor what is going on with an app called CPU Usage Timeliness Free 1.7.1.0 and use it to see EXACTLY which applications are using CPU cycles and interfering with performance. With it I have found that on my Tab I have an unsolved problem that is using over 100MB of memory and non-stop CPU usage between 15% and 45% of something called SECURITY STORAGE. I have no idea what it does. It can't be disabled and I don’t know where all the activity comes from. If someone know more about this and how to fix it, that will be great. Most of the performance issues I have on my Tab come from this Service that I don’t know how to tame. Surely, we can find a solution.
The system background services is one area where I'd like to know one by one, what each service does and if we need them or not, if it can be tweaked, disabled or deleted. Below is a complete list of the services I have safely disabled so far that have given me great performance boosts and with no negative issues on the system (IN BOLD), and OTHERS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT (not bold). Please note these are background services that start automatically. The changes made to the disabled apps/services is that they are reverted to ON-DEMAND so they all still work perfectly.
CALENDAR
CALENDAR STORAGE
COM. SEC.ANDROID.PROVIDERS.DOWNLOADS
CSC
DOWNLOAD MANAGER
DRM CONTENT
EMAIL
GALLERY
GOOGLE PARTNER SETUP
GOOGLE SERVICES FRAMEWORK
MARKET
MEDIA STORAGE
MESSAGING
MUSIC
SAMSUNG ACCOUNT
SERVICE MODE
SNS
WIPEOUT RECEIVER
WORLD CLOCK
Furthermore I uninstalled several of the Samsung Apps I don’t use and STK Service and disabled these system Apps I don’t use (YOU SHOULD CHOOSE THE ONES YOU WANT TO ENABLE OR DISABLE AS YOU MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS):
All Bluetooth Services
All LiveWallpapers Services
Browser
CarHomeGoogle
CarHomeLauncher
Google Feedback
Screen Capture Service
Voice Search
Originally with my Tab I was getting Quadrant below 600 on average. Now, its always over 1900. This is not a "little" improvement, this is amazing upgrading. But id like this to be a starting point to learn and share more ways with everyone we can all share on things we can do to make the Tab as good as it was intended to be for everyone
Cheers!
1.4 oc is stable, and doesn't have any issues for alot of users.
all the things you disabled are all the things i use every day lol
never the less, good post, im going to use a couple apps you mentioned.
natious said:
1.4 oc is stable, and doesn't have any issues for alot of users.
all the things you disabled are all the things i use every day lol
never the less, good post, im going to use a couple apps you mentioned.
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The first block of disabled items (in bold) from CALENDAR to WORLD CLOCK are disabled start-ups but the apps works as usual. It just frees resources not required on boot till you actually start the application when you want.
The second block from Bluetooth Services to Voice Search are all disabled as I use none of those. Items disabled can be restarted again at any time upon activating them follwing a reboot, while items deleted (like Samsung Apps and STK) are gone forever.
Ive never flashed a ModaCo Kernel and got lots of feedback regarding probelms with 1.4OC. Do you have any issues at all or none? We are using different ROMs... What Quadrant do you get currently?
Cheers
Thank you for your post.
You have solved many of my questions. Also I am User of HD2 and had the same impressions, but now with Android Nand everything was great, also started to love it.
As for GTAB'll make those adjustments you suggested, some will not disable because I use Bluetooth as an example.
Any news please keep posting.
Success!
VeEuzUKY said:
The first block of disabled items (in bold) from CALENDAR to WORLD CLOCK are disabled start-ups but the apps works as usual. It just frees resources not required on boot till you actually start the application when you want.
The second block from Bluetooth Services to Voice Search are all disabled as I use none of those. Items disabled can be restarted again at any time upon activating them follwing a reboot, while items deleted (like Samsung Apps and STK) are gone forever.
Ive never flashed a ModaCo Kernel and got lots of feedback regarding probelms with 1.4OC. Do you have any issues at all or none? We are using different ROMs... What Quadrant do you get currently?
Cheers
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So far the oc is good, things load a little faster, especially nfs shift. Last run of quadrant was 2300-2400.
Ill try it again later after these optimizations and see how it goes, a member here has gotten 3000.
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
dubie76 said:
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
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flash modacos kernel and rom, convert to ext4, you'll be amazed.
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In startup auditor i just checked disable all, and am not having any problems, unless you are using task manager to disable
...CALENDAR
CALENDAR STORAGE...
edit: But when i check advanced task killer, it still shows that all the disabled apps are running
dubie76 said:
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
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I agree. The process of flashing the Galaxy is much more dauting than anything on the HD2. I suggest you do the EXT4 file converstion. All you need is follow the step by step I wrote above. It makes a huge difference. As for everything else, I too hold off to do too much flashing. The ROM I use now is great and lighter than stock but your seems to work well so keep it. For me when a ROM is good I just use it. When I bought the HD2 I flashed it 2 times with a custom ROM till i found one that worked for me and kept it for 8 months. But backing up and restoring WinMo is much easier... on Androind its all more complicated if you dont know what you are doing. Disable some start-ups on your unit, convert the file system to EXT4 and make sure you have nothing on your home screen doing a lot of refreshing and your tab will work great
natious said:
flash modacos kernel and rom, convert to ext4, you'll be amazed.
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In startup auditor i just checked disable all, and am not having any problems, unless you are using task manager to disable
...CALENDAR
CALENDAR STORAGE...
edit: But when i check advanced task killer, it still shows that all the disabled apps are running
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Is everything working 100% on that ROM? I do not want any ROMS that are having problems.
I too am not impressed with anything that us out yet...seems like any ROM process is tedious and complicated.
Glad the thread starter modified his tab to his liking, but what's the point of having it if you need to drastically change everything. I have a rooted DInc and not use any of things......didn't really see a performance gain with set CPU.
I'm going to continue waiting for something more reliable and use my tab the way it was meant to be, with all its hardware and widgets.
dubie76 said:
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
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dubie76 said:
Is everything working 100% on that ROM? I do not want any ROMS that are having problems.
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Sure is, I use my tab as a phone replacement so I had to have everything work, you will be waiting eons for a decent update from samsung
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AlpineM3 said:
I too am not impressed with anything that us out yet...seems like any ROM process is tedious and complicated.
Glad the thread starter modified his tab to his liking, but what's the point of having it if you need to drastically change everything. I have a rooted DInc and not use any of things......didn't really see a performance gain with set CPU.
I'm going to continue waiting for something more reliable and use my tab the way it was meant to be, with all its hardware and widgets.
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How are you not impressed if you haven't tried anything?
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Thank you for your detailed post. While I agree with you that the stock SGT rom and browser suck but where do you think the JMI, JMF, JMx ROMs coming from?
Most ROMs I've seen (except for CM) are based from some sort of Jxx
Please keep the tweak posts going. Good stuff and thanks!
natious said:
How are you not impressed if you haven't tried anything?
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Not impressed with all the problems being posted just tring to flash it, and how complex it is to do it. Guess that's what I meant. Flashing the hd2 is a very simple process. Tab is not
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My boy,
Only getting my Galaxy tomorrow but looking through threads on my favorite forum.
And guess the first one I happen into... I will follow avidly.
Hi dubie76,
Try an app called OCLF 2.0 on the Market. It is a Lag fix app for the Samsung Galaxy S which also works on the Tab.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rc.QuickFixLagFixR2
You have to install EXT2 tools and then install one click lag fix, both are done within the app.
I had this on my Tab before flashed to a custom ROM. The tab was much faster and did not have and lag compared to stock, the Quadrant score was around 1900.
Also you can uninstall the modifications in the app and easily reverse back to stock. The only disadvantage is you will loss about 800mb of internal memory (the 2Gb space), so if you don't have much space left, you will need to uninstall some apps and reinstall them once you applied the lag fix.
P.S. thanks to OP for the SystemApp Remover & Startup Auditor suggestion.
Custom ROMs?
Hi everyone!
Consider this:
The locked GTab (in standby) on an original ROM with a connected to it BT headset wakes up after replying a call from BT and can potentially have anything pressed as being in the bag due to its size...
My point is that there is NO fix for this on XDA therefore why should I expect any significant advancements from a custom ROM if such simple things cannot be fixed on Android.
My personal view is that Android is unfortunatelly not as flexible for adjustments as WinMo (i have HD2 as well with a wonderful custom Artemis ROM).
I've tried two Roto ROMs on my GT and they havent provided any noticeable enhancements in performance to my eye (perhaps some rating went up - I dont care about tech stats). I reverted to stock ROM P1000XWJMI that works as fast for a "regular user".
I am sad to resume my experience with hacking the GT as not worth it: you get serious risk of getting the GT bricked (much more complicated than with WinMo), loose the warranty and are open for instability and sudden incompatibilities with crashes.
On the third custom ROM installation attempt I was stuck on a black screen after powering on (stuck on the bootloader!) and couldnt initiate flash for multiple times. I was shocked and very nervous. Thats when the stock ROM saved my ass and I am not willing the risk of playing around any more with non-firmware ROMs for Android GT.
Regarding the alternative screen lockers available - please do not suggest Screen Suite (the best of the worst) and things like No-Lock (to get rid of the original locker) as they all mess up once in a while (tested) with the default ROM settings and the original core locker.
PS
In my view the best thing we can and should do first of all is to COMPLAIN to SAMSUNG Tech Support and Software Developers (I did twice already).
If every one of us from theese GTab forums would do this they would definitely get faster with resolving issues.
mrbuz said:
Hi everyone!
Consider this:
The locked GTab (in standby) on an original ROM with a connected to it BT headset wakes up after replying a call from BT and can potentially have anything pressed as being in the bag due to its size...
My point is that there is NO fix for this on XDA therefore why should I expect any significant advancements from a custom ROM if such simple things cannot be fixed on Android.
My personal view is that Android is unfortunatelly not as flexible for adjustments as WinMo (i have HD2 as well with a wonderful custom Artemis ROM).
I've tried two Roto ROMs on my GT and they havent provided any noticeable enhancements in performance to my eye (perhaps some rating went up - I dont care about tech stats). I reverted to stock ROM P1000XWJMI that works as fast for a "regular user".
I am sad to resume my experience with hacking the GT as not worth it: you get serious risk of getting the GT bricked (much more complicated than with WinMo), loose the warranty and are open for instability and sudden incompatibilities with crashes.
On the third custom ROM installation attempt I was stuck on a black screen after powering on (stuck on the bootloader!) and couldnt initiate flash for multiple times. I was shocked and very nervous. Thats when the stock ROM saved my ass and I am not willing the risk of playing around any more with non-firmware ROMs for Android GT.
Regarding the alternative screen lockers available - please do not suggest Screen Suite (the best of the worst) and things like No-Lock (to get rid of the original locker) as they all mess up once in a while (tested) with the default ROM settings and the original core locker.
PS
In my view the best thing we can and should do first of all is to COMPLAIN to SAMSUNG Tech Support and Software Developers (I did twice already).
If every one of us from theese GTab forums would do this they would definitely get faster with resolving issues.
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So what if the screen goes on in your bag, unless you have a fresh finger floating around in there nothing can press any buttons on the capcitive screen, also my tab I just hit the lock button in a bt call, screen turns off phone stays on
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Im so confused. I have my tab rooted and oclf 2.0. Im scoring 2200 in quadrant and.my dolphin hd browser is SO laggy. Even with flash disabled. Any ideas?
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Im so confused. I have my tab rooted and oclf 2.0. Im scoring 2200 in quadrant and.my dolphin hd browser is SO laggy. Even with flash disabled. Any ideas?
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because quadrant doesn't mean **** in the real world, i score 2300 but thats with the 1.4 oc.
Give miren a try, tbh its the best
Hi all im new to the forum and have a few questions about rooting my xperia play and wondered if some of you in the know could help?...
im interested in using gingerbreak v1.20 to do the root, i have read the tutorial and understand most of it and from what i have read on the forums other XP users have had varied success.
my questions are...
1. my phone is on a vodaphone contract and im not sure if its sim locked (to that specific network) and does this effect the root?
2. my phone had some kind of update downloaded to its software from vodaphone about 1 week ago gingerbread 2.3.2 build number 3.0.A.2.184 other people with this version root ok?
3. so just to clarify i was wondering if that update ive had has hindered my chances of the rooting also if my phone being locked to a specific network (e.g vodaphone) is a problem?
4. last but not least, if my phone fails to reboot after the rooting process, how hard is it to put it back to original version? (like do i need more software to fix the failure or can i just remove the battery wait 30secs and itll be back to normal)?
i know these may seem very basic questions to u veteran rooters, but id like to get involved i just wanna have more knowledge myself before i jump in, and would appreciate your feedback, loving my xperia play and i want to improve it and not brick it
cheers in advance
I am with tmobile and also received the ota update before I rooted.
SIM lock doesn't effect root.
I can tell you that the update won't effect running Gingerbreak at all.
You shouldn't have any worries using Gingerbreak as is.
It is purely an apk and will either successfully root your device or will not.
This is the easiest method of rooting i've ever used.
I was an android n00b when I got my hero & had to go through the method of creating a gold card & reverting to an older build & flashing flashrec!
To be honest, now my play is rooted in probably won't even bother using custom roms in the future.
I did all that with my hero and am happy with the plays UI.
I just wanted root to free up more space.
I'd also recommend researching setinstalllocation2 on here.
Doing this natively installs everything to sd and is worth the time.
cheers for the speedy reply DeadlyDazza, yeah id like to remove some of the stock rubbish to free up some space i was also hoping to do a small overclock, is this possible with a basic root? using the android overclocking apps?
im still nervous about the reboot and it not coming back on :S
@DeadlyDazza did you use gingerbreak on an empty/formatted sd card like described in the tutorial or does it also work with a sd full of installed apps? ( i really dont want to delete all my apps and data)
cheers covux
I have a fair bit of installing custom Roms on Android phones and i can honestly say this -
Unless you are rooting the phone in order to help develop custom roms and tweaks there really is no point in rooting it at the current moment.
Gingerbread is excellent at managing apps and the Xperia Play is designed so that games run independently from your homescreen.
"Trimming the fat" will offer almost zero benefit at the moment.
My advice is to wait a while, let the experts put together some custom Roms and gain access to the Kernel, allowing us to overclock.
Until then, i do not see a reason to root at all.
Unless you just, like me, wants to get rid of bloatware and ads in various apps and other benefits with root access
+1 on liking the XP UI and don't want to flash and mod this phone as I did with my HTC desire hd
If you just want that, root it now and keep your locked bootloader and enjoy the XP as it is
Regards Dousan...
Rooting does have many benefits, which mine was to free up more space on a device that, although is designed for gamers, seems to fall very short of.
Also to use root enabled apps such as cache mate.
Apart from the space issues, which have now been resolved by rooting & setinstalllocation2, I'm more than happy with my Xperia Play.
Will I be saying the same in 6 months? Probably not, I'll probably be wanting a fresher feel.
But that depends on how much support SE give the Play (my last device was the Hero & HTC was very slow with their support).
In answer to the question about running Gingerbreak with blank sd.
I had a spare 8gig that I formatted & used.
I didn't want to risk losing any data & couldn't be bothered to back up the 14gig on my card.
Although I have heard a few people say that running Gingerbreak is completely safe & won't erase any data.
Didn't erase anything on my sdcard when I rooted my XP, would still recommend a backup before using gingerbreak I was just lazy and went ahead without doing a backup. Did one today...
Regards Dousan...
@DeadlyDazza, @Dousan thanks for the info, i think i will also use a spare blank sd.
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IXperia Play is designed so that games run independently from your homescreen.
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How exactly?
Whenever I navigate home away from a running game (such as to check a text) my XP shuts down the game.
DeadlyDazza said:
How exactly?
Whenever I navigate home away from a running game (such as to check a text) my XP shuts down the game.
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I read in one of the reviews/specs for the phone that the homescreen and gaming operate independently meaning that when you play games, the homescreen sits in another part of memory or works in another processing thread or something.
The point being made was that whatever app you have open in the homescreen, won't make your games stutter or lag when you are playing them.
Maybe an expert can clarify this.
As for your problem, i can say that something is wrong with your setup for your games to be unloaded out of memory and shutdown when you navigate to the homescreen.
I would imagine you have an appkiller that is setup to close all running apps when you navigate to the homescreen.
I can't stress the importance of not using app killers with the gingerbread o/s. They are not needed, they will not improve performance of the phone, they will not make you battery last longer.
In fact, app killers will make your battery last SHORTER on gingerbread, since you will be using alot more processing power to load and unload them.
I don't use any app-killers.
Do you navigate to your homescreen with the back button, the home button or holding the home button and selecting a new icon?
Ok I have just performed 3 tests.
1) Emulator test - had tiger genesis running playing sonic 2. Hit the home button and navigated instantly to home screen. Tiger genesis happily sits in the notification bar. Navigating back to tiger genesis sees it exactly as before I left it.
2) Playstation pocket game crash bandicoot - loaded the game and hit the hom
e key. Same as above. The game sits in the notification bar and returns to the exact state you left it in when you return back to it.
3) Xperia play game Backstab - loaded the game and hit the home key. The game did not sit in they notification bar, but reselecting the game from the xperia play menu put the game onscreen at the exact position I left it from.
I can not re-create your situation where navigating to the homescreen makes the game unload from memory.
I made his post on my xperia play btw and performed each test while making this post. My browser doesn' t even unload from memory.
dsswoosh said:
Do you navigate to your homescreen with the back button, the home button or holding the home button and selecting a new icon?
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Usually just by tapping the home button. I only hold home for hotswitching & only navigate back to quit.
DeadlyDazza said:
Usually just by tapping the home button. I only hold home for hotswitching & only navigate back to quit.
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So does it only happen with a certain game? All games?
What about apps?
I find it hard to believe that hitting the home key unloads anything from memory unless you have changed some major settings.
Using Xperia Play games.
If I go to home when playing or paused the game unloads.
Not changed any settings at all.
DeadlyDazza said:
Using Xperia Play games.
If I go to home when playing or paused the game unloads.
Not changed any settings at all.
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Ok try this and tell me what happens.
- Slide the phone open
- Load Bruce Lee
- Get into an actual fight
- Hit the home key
- Slide the phone down
- Slide the phone up
- Load Bruce Lee
After doing this, my game has paused, but is exactly where i left it. The game did not unload, and therefore did not reload. It was exactly as i left it.
If yours does not do the same, and you havn't changed any settings or are running any app killers, then i suggest you make sure you have the latest revision of firmware and try again.
Bruce Lee stays in memory ok.
Star Battalion & Dungeon Defenders quit as soon as you hit home.
DeadlyDazza said:
Bruce Lee stays in memory ok.
Star Battalion & Dungeon Defenders quit as soon as you hit home.
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I can confirm that Star Battalion stays in memory after i hit the home screen on my phone.
It shows identical behaviour as Bruce Lee.
When you hit home, and reload the game, the game has paused itself and when you unpause, the game is exaclty as when you left it.
Can't confirm Dungeon Defenders behavious since i do not own it.
If you continue experiencing problems, i would suggest you have faulty memory and request a handset replacement.
So I recently flashed CM7 and I have had some time to download all my apps and get things configured I came up with some questions and had a bit of a boot loop issue.
Ill start with the boot loop issue. A few days ago I noticed while on charge it just kept booting over and over. I have this happen from time to time on my rooted Eris with CM. No biggie I just unplug and things work themselves out. But not with the Nook. I turned it off and powered back on but its just kept booting. Sometimes it would make it to the desktop and then reboot, sometimes it wouldnt make it past the splash screen before rebooting, and sometimes it would make it to the desktop and I get an ADW Launcher error then it reboots. I followed the same procedure I followed when I originally flashed it and its been 3 days now working just fine. This time I only downloaded the apps I really needed and I currently have no SD card in it. The one I used before was the same 8 Gig card I used with Nookie Froyo (Can that card just be formatted within CyanogenMod or do i need to format it on my pc?). So Im thinking maybe that was the problem? But then I found this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043623&highlight=cm7+boot+loop Someone mentions an issue with the battery going dead. That could be it as well because it did die out just before I put it on charge that night. Any thoughts? Like I said I already reflashed just hoping I can avoid that from happening again. Im keeping track of downloaded apps and changes while testing atleast a day before doing more.
Next up is the Notification Bar. Are there any options for changing the color or maybe even the icons themselves like the WiFi, Battery, Notifications Buttons. I like the icons themselves just fine but hate how they are not all one neutral color. I like to change themes but always feel like I need to match up with something green.
So whats the deal with Wallpaper? My Eris has handled every size wallpaper Ive thrown at it. Beautifully if I may add. But the Nook struggles. Ive read some on the subject here and thought I had a decent solution when I was running Nookie Froyo but things are different on CM7. The only way I found to get decent resolution is using the browser to Google search wallpaper and setting wallpaper from within the browser. As you can imagine you dont always get the crop you want. Do I really have to crop every wallpaper specifically for my Nook or is there an easier way?
Overclocking. Boy its been a lifesaver for my Eris but im not sure about the Nook. I was impressed with a score of 1629 at the stock 800Mhz. But I wonder....was that score legit? I ran a bunch of tests back to back and they went something like this 1450, 1527, 1549, 1532, 1596, 1612, then the 1629. With the exception of that one time every test got a better score. Now when overclocked to 925 my best score was 1634 after 6 runs the first was in the 1300 range. I changed the CPU setting within CyanogenMod Settings but I wonder if I need to clear cache first? I was also looking into downloading Dalringrins kernals but can I just add his kernal to the card I used to flash CM7 originally and just flash the kernal? Or do I need to start all over?
Video and streaming video? Whos running a slick video streaming setup over their home network? What are you using and can it be an all in one setup including support for my Nook, Eris, PS3,and various laptops? Ive purchased some harddrives for movie storage but I dont want to rip my DVD collection in some specific format thats only good for one device. Id also like to load some movies and shows right on my SD card for times when I may be away from a connection. What do you guys suggest? My research has turned up many different formats and resolutions. Its been difficult to piece it all together.
I realize this is alot and much of what Im asking may be buried here in these forums but this thread will serve two purposes. To help me organize and speed up the process of getting my setup functioning the way I want. This post also in know way means ive given up on any of this. Im still working on all of it on my own. Researching and testing as time allows.
CyanogenMod-7.0.2
CWM-3.0.0.6
Well, as far as wallpaper goes, the perfect size ratio for wallpaper seems to be 1200 x 1024 at 169 ppi (pixels per inch). Gallery, Quickpic, and other image apps I've used crop to that ratio.
Gallery does some weird quality degradation (or it's resizing it) so my test image looks a smidge less sharp than it does setting wallpaper in Quickpic, for example. It looks absolutely crisp at those dimensions when set with Quickpic or Zeam (when Zeam is default wallpaper agent, it automatically expands crop tool for entire image at this size/ratio).
I've been saving my wallpapers at 1200x1024 (169 ppi). I'm not sure how it would affect your wallpaper if you've used an app like LCDDensity to change the Nook's pixel density from the default (169ppi).
Re: Video streaming
http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/
You may be more interested in: http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch05.html (Video on Demand and Multiple Streaming via VLM / VLC Player)
Quickpic is exactly what I needed. Works great!
Im gonna start looking into the VideoLan links tonight. Is this something you use? Im familiar with VideoLan but I remember having difficulty with their software before. I think it was when I was trying to stream from a TV tuner in my desktop over WiFi. Probably not the fairest situation to form a judgment.
Since My OP Im 90% sure I got stuck in that boot loop described above because the battery went dead. Mainly because I did it again but this time on purpose. I now have two Nook chargers. I dont think it would have been an issue again but now theres no chance. Anyone have a car charger?
Im also not going to mess around with overclocking for awhile. I realized lately. It runs great whats the point in rushing?
Since Best Buy lowered the price of the Galaxy Tab p1010 (wi-fi only) for a short time following the HP Fire Sale fiasco, a lot of people have purchased this tablet. I did, but not because of the HP Touchpad, but because I wanted a 7" tablet that was fully functional (i.e., GPS, camera, Android Market, etc.) at a decent price. All of my area Best Buys sold out within a week, and most had at least 10 units in stock. Anyway, I knew the limitations of this tablet when I purchased it and I knew it would never be as fast as my old Captivate since it did not have the Hummingbird processor and the SGX540 GPU and no support from Samsung. I did however want to make it as fast and functional as I could, and with the wonderful screen and clean lines, it was one of my favorite picks. It took some time and some testing (and without a firmware backup, a little stressful at times). Here is what I have tried, and luckily with some success. I have compiled this information from other threads. I know this is an older tablet and a lot of this has already been discussed, I just wanted to have one place with all of the tweaks available for the wi-fi only version for others to review and try.
EVERYTHING HERE IS VERY RISKY AND NOT RECOMMENDED FOR AVERAGE USERS. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY BRICKS THAT MAY OCCUR FROM TRYING ANY OF THESE TWEAKS. I HAVE PERSONALLY TESTED ALL OF THESE TWEAKS ON MY P1010 AND THEY HAVE WORKED WITHOUT FAILURE, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY WILL WORK ON YOUR P1010. PLEASE FOLLOW ALL THE DIRECTIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THESE LINKED THREADS AND READ, READ, READ.
Z4 Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
I used Z4 Root to successfully root my tablet. It took two tries, with the first one just hanging up and doing nothing. I held the power button down until it shut off and then restarted it. Tried a second time and had success.
OCLF 2.3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784691
Coming from the Captivate, I remembered that One-Click Lag Fix (OCLF) did wonders for my phone early in the 2.1 days. I installed this app and followed the directions. The first time it failed and I had to do the same thing - hold power button down until it powered off and then restart. On the second try it worked well and I successfully installed the EXT2 files and applied the lag fix. OCLF will let you change the scheduler to NOOP or CFQ (the default). The other schedulers do not appear to be supported. I am currently trying out NOOP, but it seems to have some issues when you have a lot going on in the background. I'll update this post after I try it out for a little bit. One note with OCLF, if you have any apps installed on your external SD Card, you will need to move them back to the phone so OCLF can apply the lagfix.
OK, so getting haptic feedback to work using OCLF - well, it's not without its own problems. You can undo Lagfix 2.0+, reboot and apply Lagfix 1.1, which is the last option under OCLF I think. Now, running 1.1 doesn't really affect anything except it is nearly impossible to undo it. 1.1 somehow deletes your playlogos1 file and when you use OCLF to restore the file, it renames it to playlogosnow. Using Root Explorer, you can rename playlogosnow to playlogos1, but make sure you are renaming the right file (the smaller one). It was a big hassle to get back to the point where I could undo 1.1 and go back to 2.0. 1.1 also deletes your boot-up screen (assume that is the original playlogos1 file), but I returned it to Best Buy the other day after completely returning it back to stock and they didn't give me any problems.
Set CPU (from XDA for registered users): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
Using SetCPU, I upped the low end to 600mhz and kept the upper end at 1000mhz. I did set a profile for when the screen was off to keep the low end at 300mhz and the upper end at 600mhz to save on battery. I also changed the scaling to ondemand, which seems to make everything a little smoother.
Fugu Tweaks: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981125
OK, the Fugu Tweaks are the one mod that I made that I didn't really see any performance improvements. When these became available, most of the devs in the Captivate section applied these tweaks to their 2.2 ROMs and there was some noticeable improvements with several launchers. On the P1010, screen transitions seemed a little smoother with Launcher Pro, but I didn't really see anything different with Go Launcher. I extracted the files from the CWM download and used Root Explorer to replace them under the /system/bin folder (read the OP in the link to make sure you place in the right location). Before replacing them, I made a copy of the original files (renamed to xxxx.copy) so I would have a backup. This is critical since there is no firmware backup for the P1010. When you reboot your tablet, the boot animation will be blank, so don't panic. Also, some apps will not work right with these tweaks - Quadrant is one of them. I don't know why, but it will just go blank and restart. I removed the tweaks and Quadrant worked fine.
Chainfire 3D: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087427
Chainfire 3D is supposed to improve your graphics. I never saw any real improvement when running Quadrant - the spinning earth/moon still looked horrible and choppy. Since most videos play smoothly on the tab without this tweak, I cannot say definitively whether or not this tweak improves performance or not. I did not see any changes in Quadrant or SmartBench 2011. It is a very finicky app and breaks several apps, including several games. I think it has to do with the resolution of the tab being at 1024x600 (or whatever it is) versus being 800x480.
V6 Supercharger scripts - I didn't have a chance to really test these out. I managed to get them installed and running, but altering memory free settings kept breaking some of my news widgets.
Other - you can use SGS Tools from the Market to alter your build.prop settings (you can use any number of programs to do this too, but SGS Tools is easy to use). If you turn on Stagefright (media player only), you can bump up your Quadrant scores to 2100. This doesn't really mean anything as it is an inflated score, but still interesting to see it.
I currently have z4root, OCLF and SetCPU running on my P1010, since those are the ones that seem to have some performance improvements. I get 1600-1700 on Quadrant and about the same scores on SmartBench as the original Droid X (800 something and 1500 something). Nenamark 1 gets me about 21fps. This tab is definitely useable and I only wanted something to surf the web and play some games on the side. NOVA from Gameloft does work on the P1010 and works well (picked it up during the Labor Day sale). Angry Birds plays well, but Angry Birds Rio has some hangups when it first starts (but then again, my Atrix does too sometimes).
Credits:
These are the guys you need to thank, or if you feel like donating to them, do so from their thread. Without these guys, none of this would be possible.
Z4Root:
RyanZA
z4ziggy
Sebastian Krahmer's rageagainstthecage
OCLF:
RyanZA
SetCPU:
coolbho3000
Fugu Tweaks:
nikademus
Chainfire 3D:
chainfire
If you feel like I have helped you and want to click "Thanks" go ahead and do so. But it doesn't really matter to me. I just wanted to get this information out to others.
Thanks for this post. I have also recently purchased this device at Best Buy.
I used SuperOneClick to root without issue.
I used OCLF and also used the "Change Scheduler" option with recommended settings and tweaks.
I set the dpi to 182 with lcddensity. Setttings didn't initially survive reboot. I don't know how I eventually got them to stick. Just kept hitting apply and rebooting until the setting held. Still sometimes resets to 240. Edited /system/build.prop with ES File Explorer. While I was doing that, I went ahead and changed the default Timezone to my own. Seemed easy enough and the screen is more to my liking.
I attempted to compile my own kernel from Samsung sources. I couldn't get it to flash with Heimdall, though.
I did a roto-backup. Don't know if it will actually work, but I figured better to have a plan than not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850359
Elixir2 gives a lot of interesting info. So does the /proc directory.
One thing I haven't tried on my Tab yet is the V6 Supercharger scripts. Maybe I'll have to try that out soon and see if they'll work on the Tab.. They made a hell of a difference on my phone.
Thanks for the tips. I used to own the P1010
and did the same tweaks with it. It did improve
the tab a lot. But I got issues with the OCLF --
it disables the haptic feedback. Never found a way
around that one.
Anyhow, I already sold my P1010 and bought
the P1000 and never looked back.
I have some new updates to post shortly. I tried out the V6 Supercharger scripts, experimented more with OCLF and SetCPU and found a way to get haptic feedback working. I also had to do another factory reset to get everything working again. I'll try to post here in the next couple of days.
Sorry for not updating the OP. I actually got rid of the Galaxy Tab p1010 and picked up the HTC Flyer for $299. I will make a few edits to the OP but those will be the last edits since I do not have the Tab anymore.
That's too bad... But if you're now happier with the Flyer then so be it
Anyhow, would you mind posting how you got the haptic feedback to work? For the benefit of the P1010 users out there.
Thanks a lot!
manggagalugad said:
That's too bad... But if you're now happier with the Flyer then so be it
Anyhow, would you mind posting how you got the haptic feedback to work? For the benefit of the P1010 users out there.
Thanks a lot!
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When doing the one click lag fix do the 1+ version and you do not lose haptic feedback
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Can anyone tell me how to change the boot animation on the p1010 I can't get it to work I think I must be retarded please help
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Hi wonder if any one can help with my galaxy tab P1010 before I throw it at the wall !! I am trying to put books on from a disk I have. I am useing Calibre to convert them. However as you probably already aware that the device shows up as a portable device and not as a letter on the drive. So I am unable to get the 2 things to connect, I have tried lots of options like changing the driver to a letter, does not work. Also turned off usb debugging, the re installing drivers did not work. Is there any thing else I can do to make it work ? thanks for reading
Hmmmmmm... OCLF doesn't work for mine! Somehow it can't find the playlogos file in the system/bin. Not even a file named playlogosnow. I did a full nandroid backup before I installed OCLF and restored it and I still couldn't find the file in Root Explorer... HELP!!!
BTW, I'm running the KPI version of GB 2.3.6
Hi, guys. I'm Great (not so) Russian (at all) Man (may be..) and i really needed ur help to find out solution of my problem. So, i will try to explain:
When i'm playing games (e.g. Asphalt 8) more than 5 minutes, they starting to lose fps. I think, it's cuz of throttling. My SGN3 (Octa-version) is heating in moments like that. Seems, i found out solution - changing process priority. When i'm changing Asphalt priority from 7 to -20, i can enjoy high framerate, but only for short time, system putting priority to 7 on and on again. >_< I needed something like a rom without this confine or way to create cyclical script, which will change Asphalt's priority to -20 every period of time. I already tryed different roms and hard resets.
Hmm, i seen same problem in topic in Android Exynos Develpment. I think, i getting low fps cuz of ****ty DVFS.
Seems like this rom can help me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2568140
If rooted install xposed framework and then DVFS Mod to deactivate this....
ultramag69 said:
If rooted install xposed framework and then DVFS Mod to deactivate this....
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Unfortunately, it's not working.
Guys, can someone download Kernel Tuner (free on google play) and look what the priority of Asphalt 8 in category "Task Manager".
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Guys, can someone download Kernel Tuner (free on google play) and look what the priority of Asphalt 8 in category "Task Manager".
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So, i reinstalled rom and now all my problems solved except heating in camera region.
That's just the cpu running
May want to factory reset your phone and retry