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Hi,
i read somewhere (French source) that HTC was going to release a larger capacity (rumoured 1450mAH) battery in the next 2 month for the DHD. Can anyone confirm this ?
German HTC have refused to comment on it.
That would be amazing!
Ain't gonna happen, thats my guess.
HTC don't win anything with this and i don't think its even possible because of the fixed alu. housing. They can't make it bigger.
New phones arrive soon, so they not gonna put effort in making a bigger battery.
My 2 cents.
Post a link with that info.
i hope they do come out with that. it should be 1500 mah in the first place
I emailed HTC about a month ago, Nada. But they said they're investigating the battery life
I saw some batteries on Ebay, but I think they are cheap batteries, it can be dangerous...
don't trust the third party batteries, they don't perform well.
mjehan said:
Hi,
i read somewhere (French source) that HTC was going to release a larger capacity (rumoured 1450mAH) battery in the next 2 month for the DHD. Can anyone confirm this ?
German HTC have refused to comment on it.
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I really doubt it. Also, 1450mAh would only be an increase of 18% of capacity. Of course any increase would be nice, but current battery tech coupled with the alu housing just doesn't allow for much higher capacity batteries than stock for the DHD.
Wekko306 said:
I really doubt it. Also, 1450mAh would only be an increase of 18% of capacity. Of course any increase would be nice, but current battery tech coupled with the alu housing just doesn't allow for much higher capacity batteries than stock for the DHD.
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I can confirm a new "Replacement Battery for Desire HD" is available, the very same size to fit in the unibody, and it is 1600mAh, you read well. I ordered one about 10 days ago, they tried to deliver it today, but I wasn't home, so I have to go to the Post Office tomorrow.
You can order it from HTCPedia:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/inspire-4g-desire-hd-extended-battery-1600mah.html
But I found it cheaper, here:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
I'll report back about it towards the end of the week.
This is not an htc brand. There is a thread discussing screen issues that was caused by a similar battery expanding after several charges and pressing against the screen. Personally I would stay clear of non branded battery - its not worth the risk.
Htcpedia is not related to htc.
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Howling Wolf said:
I can confirm a new "Replacement Battery for Desire HD" is available, the very same size to fit in the unibody, and it is 1600mAh, you read well. I ordered one about 10 days ago, they tried to deliver it today, but I wasn't home, so I have to go to the Post Office tomorrow.
You can order it from HTCPedia:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/inspire-4g-desire-hd-extended-battery-1600mah.html
But I found it cheaper, here:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
I'll report back about it towards the end of the week.
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These aren't official HTC batteries and if they are similar to the ones being discussed, endlessly, in the accessories section are inferior to the stock HTC batteries and unlikely to offer any gain in battery life, but please report back but give the batteries at least 7-10 days of normal use before offering any realistic feedback.
Well, you managed to scare me... I thought HTCPedia was serious enough not to sell or advertise garbage.
It cost me less than 20€ (about 28 USD). I'll give it a try around 7-10 days right, but will most probably remove it if I encounter screen issues.
Yep picture looks exactly like the one I got from a UK supplier and has swollen enough to press against the inside of the phone
Did it last longer. Ermm yes and probably about 30% longer but over the two months I have had it performance has dropped below that of the original so personally I have been unsuccessful and will be sticking with the original HTC one
Id buy this but the battery life isnt as bad as it used to be. Its probably got something to do with HTC shipping their batteries uncalibrated or maybe Im just getting used to owning a smartphone
Isn't there a new nano technology available that can store more mAh? Maybe thats what there aiming for? They will profit from it because many would buy an Official battery with mor mAh..
Just do some tweak and it will save ur battery life longer..bigger capacity just giving it more juicer but that is not far different from original. I think just flash to new recommended ROM + Radio to get the best result
Battery lasts nearly 2 days for me with moderate use on standard HTC battery.
You just got to get the phone set up right or go the custom rom route to get even better battery life.
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Isn't there a new nano technology available that can store more mAh? Maybe thats what there aiming for? They will profit from it because many would buy an Official battery with mor mAh..
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Net yet.. Battery Technology has hit a brick wall at the moment and basically what you have now is the best out there...
However there are some clever stuff happening. There is one which I particularly from last year
http://www.greenmuze.com/climate/energy/2761-mit-nanotube-batteries-.html
However we are still at least 5 years away from this entering the market in my opinion...
Just try and buy an extra battery if you really need more juice
Just got my dock today and all I have to say is, wow. This is one helluva sweet device now. The functionality of both touch screen and keyboard rock!
I love the extra expansion, it's crazy how how much extra you get with the dock. I can now have the 16g onboard + 16gig micro sd plugged into tablet and 16g Sd plugged into dock. That's one helluva lot of storage for a tablet and for the price, it's outstanding. Add the two USB connections and it rules. Looks damn good too.
Great job Asus. Love my xformer
Ya it'd own even more if they fix the 4% per hour battery drain on the dock when the tablet is docked and it's sleeping.
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Ya it'd own even more if they fix the 4% per hour battery drain on the dock when the tablet is docked and it's sleeping.
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Man, it never ceases to amaze me how many people just want to whinge on this forum. Just plain amazing - now go back to the dock-battery thread.
Love my dock too - use the tab about 6 hours a day, charge the tablet every or every second day, but it is fantastic when out and about. Last Sunday was out and about without access to Internet or computers for 12 hours - but my trusty TF brought me season 3 of "The Big Band Theory" to keep me entertained!
Maybe yours is an early version or defective, mine doesn't drain like that. I've had no charging issues. The keyboard will always charge the Transformer unless it is fully charged and use the keyboard battery first, if the Transformer is using WiFi or GPS it will drain the keyboard.
absolutely agree with OP. Fantastic device, even if it does have a few quirks. I wish the root development scene was moving a little further, cause there is alot of potential for this thing!
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Ya it'd own even more if they fix the 4% per hour battery drain on the dock when the tablet is docked and it's sleeping.
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Actually, I don't think that'll be an issue. I have the newer dock model (B60KAS) and from what I've read/seen there is no drain.
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absolutely agree with OP. Fantastic device, even if it does have a few quirks. I wish the root development scene was moving a little further, cause there is alot of potential for this thing!
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I'm starting to wish I were an affiliate, I've sold three people on them and they're all very pleased.
Me and my eee pad plus dock have now, reached an understanding, it is a truly amazing device when coupled with the dock, as an avid fan of android from launch and the owner of an original I pad, I have now realised that all my gripes are based on comparison with the I pad. OK it does have a few little annoyances, but on the whole after a month of use, this thing seems to be getting better by the day. I think Asus are bang on the money with the TF. The screen is superb and build quality better than most high end laptops. I agree with earlier comments about the negatives played against the TF being over the top, I myself was of the original wingers. But everything it does that works OK, it does brilliantly, and im sure the rest will follow.
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Actually, I don't think that'll be an issue. I have the newer dock model (B60KAS) and from what I've read/seen there is no drain.
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So do you think it is hardware related? Would be a bummer, I still hope this is fixable with a firmware upgrade for the dock
Ordered my dock yesterday, will hopefully get it tomorrow.
Really looking forward to it after reading this thread
Yes, dock is really great.
I charge my TF once a day (during the night) and could work a whole day of meetings, mail replying and browsing without to be worried of battery lack.
However, I think the battery time could be better (perhaps, Prime 1.5 combined with 1.5 Ghz kernel is the cause), seems to be better when I was with stock system. The Dock also provide a very convenient way to type texts, etc... without transporting my portable PC.
A very good investment (even somes think it's not really necessary) on my side.
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You are easily impressed. LOL!!!
It is a neat little device....but there will always be something newer....but not necessarily better.
I do however, love the expansion options made available to us with the dock.
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So do you think it is hardware related? Would be a bummer, I still hope this is fixable with a firmware upgrade for the dock
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Not sure, I just finished reading further and I guess some people on even the same model as mine have the issue. I'll keep an eye on things and see how it goes. Not sure if it'll be an issue or not, I will update later.
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Digiguest said:
You are easily impressed. LOL!!!
It is a neat little device....but there will always be something newer....but not necessarily better.
I do however, love the expansion options made available to us with the dock.
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After having owned an iPad, yes, I'm easily impressed by devices that don't suck.
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So do you think it is hardware related? Would be a bummer, I still hope this is fixable with a firmware upgrade for the dock
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I own a b50kas and have no drain, others have, nobody even knows whether it is a defective tablet or dock that causes the problem, how many tablets docks are affected ? Maybe only a few, if i would have this problem i would rma both tablet and dock.
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I was pretty sure everybody has this battery drain issue but now seeing some peeps come out of the woodwork just today claiming they don't. Now I didn't notice this battery drain issue until other users started mentioning it so then I paid closer attention to it, well that plus somebody put out a battery widget that showed you the dock level whereas before I didn't have a way to check. I have not shut my Transformer off while docked and let it sit to see if it then doesn't drain, if it doesn't then I suspect it's possible some of us including myself have some app running (maybe the dual battery widget?) that's causing it. I shall try this tonight.
I think the reason that a few don't see the draining is that they using the combo with a transformers at 100%. Because i doing it right now and i don't see the problem. So everybody with the problem should charge both to 100% and testing it.
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I think the reason that a few don't see the draining is that they using the combo with a transformers at 100%. Because i doing it right now and i don't see the problem. So everybody with the problem should charge both to 100% and testing it.
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No as I stated my tablet is always at 100% and I have this issue, I actually just leave mine docked all the time and when I put it up for example when I leave for work, or go to bed, my tablet is 100% and the dock may be anywhere from 30% to 96% and this issue happens, so it has nothing to do with not having it at 100% when you dock it.
I wonder, does everybody here use a dual battery widget? I've always wondered if maybe the widget itself is the cause, liek it' spinging the dock for battery level all the time. Would be interesting to see if we say charge everything up to 100%, uninstall the battery widget and reboot just to ensure it's gone and not left running, then let it sit idle and reinstall it later and recheck. I may do this tonight/tomorrow and see.
I agree. I ordered the dock with mine when I got it and haven't looked back. I use it with the dock probably 90% of the time. Its a good mix of function and form for my use. This device pretty much replaced a laptop/netbook/tablet for me. Combined with a WiFi hotspot from my Inspire 4G this thing rocks.
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Just got the evo3d and wish there was something like this for it,
Just had a new ota dock update but still have the same number ep101-0209 anyone had the same or know what is for.
There is another thread on this same topic. The general conclusion was that there is no new update. It may be something wrong with the OTA update process. Even if a download and install was done if you your dock already had ep101-0209 then nothing changed.
I had the same thing, I'm the one that started the other thread. One thing to note though, before that mysterious update my dock was draining at 4% per hour with wifi off and tab asleep before, now I'm at 1-2% per hour with wifi off so something seems to have been fixed.
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I had the same thing, I'm the one that started the other thread. One thing to note though, before that mysterious update my dock was draining at 4% per hour with wifi off and tab asleep before, now I'm at 1-2% per hour with wifi off so something seems to have been fixed.
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Sorry should have checked for other posts, mine was also draining whilst docked, will check to see if there has been an improvement, would be nice to think it was a fix they implemented in their lasted batch, that is maybe being fixed on the older versions.
PaulGG said:
Sorry should have checked for other posts, mine was also draining whilst docked, will check to see if there has been an improvement, would be nice to think it was a fix they implemented in their lasted batch, that is maybe being fixed on the older versions.
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Did you find out if the update helped with dock battery drain?
Yes mine is vastly improved I would say mine now drains about 10% in 8 hours with tablet docked and wifi left on. Battery life seems to be improving with more charges. As I said in the other thread on battery drain on the dock. For the features it adds for the extra £50 I paid bundled I can find no fault with the dock, it is superb value, addedbattery life,sd cardand 2 usb ports, brilliant. I can understand all the frustration with those who want the perfect notebookand tablet combo. Android has only just been approved by google for tablets let alone for netbooks, here you have a fast solid state drive device which works great for the first of its kind. I would be suprised if more than a few thousand out of the hundreds of thousand sold actualy get returned. I am gobsmacked by the rants on this forum, and only discovered my ipad had light bleed by sitting in a dark room watching a black screen, and that was after owning it 12 months, sheep came to mind lol. Asus have given us more than any other tablet manufacturer.
Maybe all these guys who are on their 4th or 5th TF should give up and stick to apple, where you can take it back every week under apple care
Perfect tablet ipad? whoops even that has light bleed, if you want to find it.
Let us know what dock models and country origin got this update notice? B5/B6? US/Canada/China?
I can't believe how hard can be to have a fully working device these days.
I really like the tf101 with the docking station, specially on the road, I used it(dock) for 1 month,then shelved it, and now starting using it again, here is my list of issues:
1. After tweaking my docking for a possible battery draining problem(partially solved now), my dock doesn't come back after entering power saving mode(most of the time), only works when AC power adapter is plugged in.
2. I have to press the power button for it(a loose power button, that eventually have to ship it to asus for repairing), then my sd card slot is not being recognized at all, all my sd memory contents remain "unseen"
3. I found out restarting the tf101 will solve my issue(temporary) until tf101 goes on power saving mode and we start the cycle all over again.
This is just my 2 cents opinion, I appreciate if all fanboys here(if any) just try to be realistic about this tangible shortcomings:
Is it really worth it to have a device like this?, I will attempt to service it with Asus separately, will have to unroot my tf101 first. Is it really worth all the time I have to spend troubleshooting an immature device/platform? $550 spent(TF101 +dock) wasn't exactly a pocket change ? I think android devices, specifically asus tablet devices are still a long road away to become real working solutions for travelers/professionals. Do we really have to tolerate and live with those current limitations? I don't think so. My MSI X340 and hansspree 12.1 dual core netbooks despite their shorter battery life and larger sizes just do the work. I'm seriously considering getting a mac book air 11.6 which will allow me to get the best of worlds (windows and mac) for about 30% more will cost me to get a TF201 and dock combination.
I will keep my tf101 just to try out ICS (if ever gets officially released from Asus)
I'm finally got tired of dealing with immature wannabe gadgets. I'm going to miss android, will probably come back to try out the TF700T later this year.
I will start by saying i am having similar dock issues. Battery and having to hold power to reboot because it wont always come out of sleep. I recently mistakingly grabbed my GF`s dock in the place of mine one night and in the three days it took me to realize what i had done, all my issues seemed to disappear. I realized what happened bscause she started complaining about the same issues on hers. I have had my dock back for 2 days now and the battery and device lag seems to still be there but i have been able towake the device up so far. I hope i can just send off my dock and see what they can see while still hunting for a fix i can do.
Second, I recently had to explain this to my mom, though these issues are annoying, remember that all devices like this have a potential to have issues. My parents recently got an iphone in thehouse (work requirement), and it was dead in 20 minutes, the line at the apple store showed a story of others with dead devices. Moms expression of "I thought apple devices never die" was cute to hear in the store. It happens, dont get too discouraged.
rma because it sounds like you have a defective device. The battery drain is common, mine seemed to have been fixed with the latest firm ware update.
Sorry you are having so many issues with it, but when they do work right, they sure are nice. Good luck
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rma because it sounds like you have a defective device. The battery drain is common, mine seemed to have been fixed with the latest firm ware update.
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How are firmware updates performed for the dock?
I've gone through 3 docks by now. They all worked flawlessly for me. Don't get discouraged. You should RMA and see what they can do. There are at least 3 out there that work great.
of course, Dock has latest firmware update.
I sent them an email and just waiting RMA instructions
I contacted them twice over the phone, and got disconnected twice as well, coincidence? maybe. The whole RMA process with Asus products is overall complicated. Asus online password recovery feature Does not work. their website must be down or under maintenance. At least I got a Case number just have to wait now.
Will RMA both units if possible, my TF101(loose power button) and my Dock device(drainage and power saving issues).
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How are firmware updates performed for the dock?
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Assuming you are not rooted and running a 3rd party kernel, the dock's firmware is downloaded and installed automatically. You should see a little icons that will announce the update.
Yeah. I'm RMAing my one as well because of dock-issues.
That ************ just causes battery-drain left and right when connected, even though I bought it to double battery-life. It easily killls off my existing battery-life by over 80%.
Amazing. And amazingly stupid.
I hope they manage to fix this, or I will be forced to hate what could have been a ingenious device.
4 days waiting and counting, for a simple RMA process.
I love you Asus, will have to call them back again.
Have a Case number already.
My $250 Asus motherboard just died after 11 months. I don't know what is going on with quality control these days.
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I don't know what it going on with quality control these days.
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There is none. I saw the same with lenses for DSLRs, most manufacturers prefer to sell without quality control and then exchange those that are bad (only if user notices the problem of course).
As an amateur photographer I've never had any issues with canon DSLR lenses, ever. Used to be an Asus fanatic, not anymore, all my monitors are Asus(the high end ones) 24, 25.5 and 27", they haven't failed to me...yet
my 18 month Asus gaming laptop(paid $1200) starting to fail, my LCD was causing some flickering. and decided to fix it by my self(out of warranty), I replaced the video card(nvidia gtx260m), lcd video cable and it didn't fix the problem, I replaced the LCD 16" made by LG, and problem solved, however It set me back almost $400 in parts, not quite happy at all. I guess all electronic devices are disposable these days. 5 days and counting waiting for the RMA, come on Asus!
well, finally my tf101 dock "passed away" ,100% drainage issue, battery eats up even my tf101 tablet in 8 hours or less, it does happen all the time now, 1 week waiting for the RMA and nothing, I filed individual RMA requests for my tf101 tablet and tf101 dock. Will attempt to reach them over the phone today one more time.
finally managed to get those "helpful" asus employees over the phone, will RMA my dock only, to be honest at this point I do not thrust them anymore, I can live with my loose power button on my tf101 tablet, as long as the dock works properly. I will overnight my dock and will see how long does it take to get service.
I RMAed my dock Saturday. Will see what happens.
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I plan to contact them this week about RMA`ing my dock as it will go from 100% to 3% in 24 hours while onlg being on the tablet for less then 3 of those 24 hours.
I don't doubt that people have had issues, but I just wanted to say that my experience with stock HC has been great. Very few reboots or lock ups. The dock battery seems satisfactory, although it is obviously smaller than the tablet's battery.
I did have a problem with the tablet battery draining quickly overnight, but that disappeared after I uninstalled a certain app (Mail.com's app), and installed the Auto Airplane Mode app.
For those who are experiencing high battery drain, have you tried going back to stock HC and uninstalling apps that are constantly trying to access the internet? Maybe it's not a problem with the hardware?
I've done that before requesting a RMA, came back to stock, delete all apps, all delete widgets, installed airplane mode and still had the drainage issue. So it's definitely a hardware issue.
Short version: I'm looking at getting a Galaxy Tab 10.1 on Verizon which has a battery issue. According to the current owner, the battery only holds a 20% charge. My question is twofold. One, is there any chance this is a software or battery calibration problem that is fixable? The GT 10.1 seems a bit young for the battery to actually have worn down to that point.
Two, assuming it's not fixable, does anyone here have experience with replacing the battery? I've looked over the teardowns, and seen the type of battery pack it uses, but I haven't seen direct replacements available on eBay.
It's still under warranttee, why not have Samsung fix it?
Agree with Tabguy. Verizon version of the 10.1 tab is young in the tooth so I would think that if there was an issue with the device hardware wise the warranty would cover that. That the owner is selling it despite this is concerning IMO. If it were me selling it I'd at least go through the effort of having it serviced under warranty so as to not pass the problem on to someone who wouldn't be able to fix it. Perhaps they are a 2nd owner though.
From what I know, the Verizon version of the tab also hasn't had any custom ROMs that would have messed with the battery requiring calibration. I own one of these tabs and have flashed a few things including AOKP builds with no impacts to battery calibration. So unless the owner flashed something that us other Verizon owners haven't it's unlikely a calibration issue.
Just a heads up that the Verizon version differs on ROM support so right now you're stuck on Honeycomb 3.2 at best if you need LTE data until the ICS build is released by Samsung/Verizon or a developer develops the LTE modem support for the ICS builds floating around. If you don't need LTE data right now you're better off getting a wifi tab and passing on this one.
They may well be the second owner, I'm not sure. It's disappointing that the warranty doesn't follow the tab. But still, if it is fixable it'd be a great deal.
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They may well be the second owner, I'm not sure. It's disappointing that the warranty doesn't follow the tab. But still, if it is fixable it'd be a great deal.
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definitely is fixable...i opened mine up and its just removing some screws and a cable and popping the new one in...now just to find a battery
EDIT: FOUND IT FOR YOU! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-SP...701630?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2eba3799be
Gotta love this forum!
Indeed. Now sounds like an opportunity for him to grab a tab on the cheap and repair the battery himself. I'd lowball the price and see if the owner takes it.
Okay, so I got my hands on this thing. I haven't extensively tested it's battery capacity yet, but that's mostly because it came without the Samsung charger, just the standard USB cable. Without the Samsung 2 amp USB charger, even charging off a 1 amp supply it's nearly impossible to charge the thing. I left it plugged in for 24 hours and it's still only up around 75%. Which actually makes me wonder if that was the previous owner's problem, that they were charging it off a low current source which wasn't able to really supply the battery.
Either way, I need a 2 amp USB power supply. Does anyone happen to know if a generic one will do just as well, or is the Samsung charger wired specially for the GTab?
Sooo.... it's looking more and more like the former owner of this thing was simply a moron. And I'm not saying that just because he didn't even bother to delete his GMail account, password, and browser history of black porn and online gambling before selling the tablet to me.
Connected to a low-amperage charger, it managed to trickle-charge up to 98% before I unplugged it and started playing. That was a little over two hours ago, and two hours of solid use on Verizon 3G later, it's declining at a steady 10% per hour. So absent anything else ridiculous happening, I'm pretty much ready to call this a case of PEBKAC.
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Either way, I need a 2 amp USB power supply. Does anyone happen to know if a generic one will do just as well, or is the Samsung charger wired specially for the GTab?
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Before buying a second original Samsung 2A charger on occasion I have used a friend's "generic" 2A charger while away from home (the stock one is behind furniture and connected to the Samsungh desktop dock and was too much hassle to get), so a "generic" 2A one will do but seeing as it's not that easy to find good 2A ones and seeing that the Samsung original one is cheap enough I would simply buy an original charger (which IIRC also comes with a USB cable which may come handy).
(Availabilities and prices refer to Italy, the situation may of course be different where you live)
Sooo.... it's looking more and more like the former owner of this thing was simply a moron. And I'm not saying that just because he didn't even bother to delete his GMail account, password, and browser history of black porn and online gambling before selling the tablet to me.
Connected to a low-amperage charger, it managed to trickle-charge up to 98% before I unplugged it and started playing. That was a little over two hours ago, and two hours of solid use on Verizon 3G later, it's declining at a steady 10% per hour. So absent anything else ridiculous happening, I'm pretty much ready to call this a case of PEBKAC.
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LOL!!
Well, it does look like you have been very lucky..
AdamaDBrown said:
Sooo.... it's looking more and more like the former owner of this thing was simply a moron. And I'm not saying that just because he didn't even bother to delete his GMail account, password, and browser history of black porn and online gambling before selling the tablet to me.
Connected to a low-amperage charger, it managed to trickle-charge up to 98% before I unplugged it and started playing. That was a little over two hours ago, and two hours of solid use on Verizon 3G later, it's declining at a steady 10% per hour. So absent anything else ridiculous happening, I'm pretty much ready to call this a case of PEBKAC.
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LOL, nice
how much did you pay for this "broken" tablet ?