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Wow, the vibrant's battery.

I just switched from the G2, and I don't seem to be getting as good of a battery life. I just went down from 50 percent to 4 percent in 3 hours. Is this normal?
I don't think my phone is sleeping when the screen off. I'm kind of new to android, so excuse me asking, but how do you check if you phone is not sleeping and draining battery while idle? Is there an application or something to check?
One more thing, I just got the new update yesterday. I heard that it's not good to use a task killer, but I'm now using the built in task manager to close apps before I lock my phone seems to be helping with battery life. What are you opinions on this?

Check the battery thread, life seems to vary along among the Vibrants. A lot are reporting 11-15 hours of use before needing a charge.
I read that it's good to put Wifi on never sleep (if you're on Wifi) and use a black wallpaper

Interesting, how do I go about changing the wifi to never sleep? I can't find it in the settings!

Drm running. Go2 apps running- Apps & stop it
Vibrant + xda app

JJG2 said:
Interesting, how do I go about changing the wifi to never sleep? I can't find it in the settings!
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It is hidden pretty well. Haha. Menu > settings > wireless and network > wifi settings > menu key > advanced > sleep policy
I would change it to never sleep when plugged in. not just never sleep ever.
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Gigamaster89 said:
I read that it's good to put Wifi on never sleep (if you're on Wifi) and use a black wallpaper
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If you change WiFi to never sleep, it eats battery like crazy (at least for me, I'm bought with no data, and could barely last a day from when I woke up to going to sleep). With WiFi art to never sleep when charging, I only drain around 40% in an awake day (from when wake up to going to sleep).
Also, when I set WiFi to never sleep, my cell standby usage skyrockets.
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Extend battery life
Couple of things I have noticed with this phone
1. Get an app Task manager or similar type apps. There are a bunch of them in the store and here. This will allow you at one click to see what is on in programs and better manage that.
2. Go to the Development section here and read the Bionix 1.9 Thread. It explains how to recondition the battery. Even if your battery is new it is good information understanding how the phone views the battery.
3. If I am out of range or do not need, I stop the wifi and bluetooth. In the menu you can set the settings alot of ways, so you just have to experiment on this. (In home screen, hit lower left button and go to settings)
4. I use my email and phone ALL day (min 10hrs) and typically, I get 15-17 hr of use before it hits 10%
5. Finally, once you are comfortable with the phone, you can load a custom ROM from the Development section. The developers here are very through and Do squeeze the most out of the phone.
Good luck and you will love the phone as I do.

oka1 said:
Couple of things I have noticed with this phone
1. Get an app Task manager or similar type apps. There are a bunch of them in the store and here. This will allow you at one click to see what is on in programs and better manage that.
2. Go to the Development section here and read the Bionix 1.9 Thread. It explains how to recondition the battery. Even if your battery is new it is good information understanding how the phone views the battery.
3. If I am out of range or do not need, I stop the wifi and bluetooth. In the menu you can set the settings alot of ways, so you just have to experiment on this. (In home screen, hit lower left button and go to settings)
4. I use my email and phone ALL day (min 10hrs) and typically, I get 15-17 hr of use before it hits 10%
5. Finally, once you are comfortable with the phone, you can load a custom ROM from the Development section. The developers here are very through and Do squeeze the most out of the phone.
Good luck and you will love the phone as I do.
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1 - terrible advice - esp with JI6 having one built in (long press home).
2 - This is also in the General sticky
5 - try bionix 1.9.0 (or 1 if you want alt lock screens) and try JACs oc/uv - great battery life so far.

On average use I get close to 24 hours out of a charge using mostly WiFi and enabling no-sleep option, running Bionix 1.9.1 with stock kernel with JI6 modem. I'm also running LauncherPro Plus with facebook widget set to auto-refresh every 5 minutes, the most frequent setting for Google sync, and NoLED notification. I think that is very reasonable.
p.s. I do not use task manager since the operating system is supposed to manage the apps on its own.

oka1 said:
...3. If I am out of range or do not need, I stop the wifi...
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I use an app from the market called Y5 (free) to automatically shut down wifi if I'm in an area without it and back on if I'm in an area with it.
Works well for me.

My vibrant is less 23% after being off the charger for 4 hrs. One of those hours was me driving without using it.
Something is wrong. Dunno if it's the update, but something is lilling it FAST - wifi ang gps off the entire time...
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I use the living hell out of my Vibrant, and usually it lasts for about 4-5 hours. This being during playing games with brightness maxed, or streaming music over 3G and/or Wi-fi.
If I have a day where I am not doing the above, and just using my phone for emial and the facebook and gmail synching, I easily get over 10 hours before I hit 20%.
All in all I am quite happy with it's battery life. I have just learned to leave my phone on the charger till full charge after streaming music drains it to <20%.
I really should put MP3's on it and test how much that drains the battery compared to streaming.
Either way, I get better performance on battery and memory management then my old (work supplied) BB Bold.

My G2 definitely has more battery life than my Vibrant. That said, once you apply the above mentioned tweaks and especially with JAC's OC/UV kernel, and setcpu set at 200-1000 at conservative, the Vibrant battery life improves quite a bit. Still, its not as good as my G2. But not that bad either..

Keep in mind that the G2 doesn't have to power a billboard sized SAMOLED screen either.
Other than that flash on of Sombionix's ROMs with either of the new kernels and then recondition.
I get pretty good battery life because I don't have 3G in my area so I keep it forced to edge and I don't use bluetooth ever and wifi stays off unless i need it.
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N8ter said:
My vibrant is less 23% after being off the charger for 4 hrs. One of those hours was me driving without using it.
Something is wrong. Dunno if it's the update, but something is lilling it FAST - wifi ang gps off the entire time...
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Ditto!
Fully charged on the way to work. On the charger less than 4 hours later with moderate use. No better after update. Was using a task killer with minimal improvement. Love the Vibrant but despise it's battery life.

Something is wrong. I just went 26 hours down to 19% before charging
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People, recondition the battery. It's easy.
Charge it to 100%, keep it plugged in and reboot to recovery, clear the battery stats, drain it all the way, then charge it back to 100% again.
You can start in the morning before work/school and finish at the end of the day. I've never had an issue with battery life on this phone. I can play 6 continuous hours of video/games on this thing and still have battery left.
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Also the g2 has froyo witch uses less battery then 2.1
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try juice defender it works great for me...

Can't get past "Reinstall Packages"
I am trying to recalibrate my battery after the OTA destroyed it, but every time I select to reinstall packages so I can get to the battery section, it looks for Update.zip on my sdcard, and it wont let me get any further. All I can do is reboot the phone.... any suggestions?

My battery solution

I've had a very sudden and dramatic improvement in battery life and I thought that I'd post what seems to have worked for me.
I installed setCPU and set it for
768/254 on demand - main
245/245 performance screen off
368/368 performance - battery<41%
battery<101% 768/245 on demand
I installed Ultimate JuiceDefender and set it for extreme - blocking all connectivity except for a white-list
I decided that I could do a better job than the auto screen, so I installed Brightness level and I keep it generally at about 20% and then flick it up a bit if I need it.
I disabled auto rotation and now toggle the screen with a widget.
I've taken phone calls, recorded phone calls, checked email a few times, tweeted - very often using wifi which I operate using a toggle widget
I had the phone on charge all night switched off.
Disconnected it at 8.00 this morning and at 6.30 this evening, the JD widget tells me that there is still 12hrs and 28 mins of battery time left.
Considering the size of the screen and what this phone does. And considering the very poor battery life - 8hrs max I was getting before, I am far happier and the phone now becomes a practical item to have.

Whats your percentage battery left?

seems to be saying 72%
I also noticed that for the first time screen usage is less than running usage.
Screen consumption has always been the big factor on phone - and I see that is what people say on the forum, so I'm very pleased to have reduced it so well.
The Brightness level app allows a variable control whereas all the other screen controllers have seen allow you only to rotate through three or four preset brightness levels.
Brightness Level lets you do that with a widget but it also has a slide bar, which is what I was looking for

So basically you've downgraded the DHD to a level of a Nokia S40 device imo As this has been covered by many others in many other battery life related threads I'm just saying this short and simple. Just use the device as it is supposed to, enjoy the awesome features it provides at the full potential and don't get fixated on the battery life, it'll get you through the day no problem (doesn't include playing angry birds for three hours straight ) and just plug it in when you have the chance.

About battery, some tips, my battery life is around 2 days with normal usage of phone, only i dont use 3g only wi-fi:
Brightness - between 25% and 50%
When you on the internet and use native explorer for android go to "Menu-more-settings-enable plugins" and set it to "On demand"
Tupe *#*#4636*#*# - "Phone information" and set "Preffered network type" to "GSM Auto Prl"
Android Revolution HD 2.15 rom

lejars1 said:
I've had a very sudden and dramatic improvement in battery life and I thought that I'd post what seems to have worked for me.
I installed setCPU and set it for
768/254 on demand - main
245/245 performance screen off
368/368 performance - battery<41%
battery<101% 768/245 on demand
I installed Ultimate JuiceDefender and set it for extreme - blocking all connectivity except for a white-list
I decided that I could do a better job than the auto screen, so I installed Brightness level and I keep it generally at about 20% and then flick it up a bit if I need it.
I disabled auto rotation and now toggle the screen with a widget.
I've taken phone calls, recorded phone calls, checked email a few times, tweeted - very often using wifi which I operate using a toggle widget
I had the phone on charge all night switched off.
Disconnected it at 8.00 this morning and at 6.30 this evening, the JD widget tells me that there is still 12hrs and 28 mins of battery time left.
Considering the size of the screen and what this phone does. And considering the very poor battery life - 8hrs max I was getting before, I am far happier and the phone now becomes a practical item to have.
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your on stock rom mate?
i can see that you can charge your phone while its turnd off..
i think on customized ROM like ARHD LD CORE cm7 and etc cannot charge their phone while its off because iT will BOOTup to recovery mode

Doesn't performance mode just keep the CPU clock on it's maximum? It would rather shorten the battery life than prolong it.

Why buy a smartphone and use it like a landline lol i hammer my phone and still get 10-14 hours out of it, thats fine for me, i only get 3hrs out of my laptop lol
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Mate there is something eating your battery if u only get 8 hours battery life.
These adjustments you made are unnecessary if you find the culprit that is eating your battery, why get a phone like the dhd and run it on 20% brightness and lower the cpu to such a level.
Have you used spare parts to check your battery usage?
Im currently on 40% and my phone has been unplugged since 27 hours and I don't even have setcpu installed.
Maybe you should post details on your barret usage!
Swyped from my sexy galaxy tab

But I'm not compromising anything now. I'm completely happy with the way that the phone works for me now.
I'm actually operating the screen at 12% for most of the time - when I am not outside and it doesn't present any difficulty for me.
Obviously I would always like better battery life and I'll look for more ways to improve it.
Doesn't performance mode just keep the CPU clock on it's maximum? It would rather shorten the battery life than prolong it.
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According to setCPU, if you set it to on demand, it will keep on scanning for required power level. Performance automatically goes to the max. Apparently on demand uses slightly more power so they advice to use performance when possible. So I set the same max/min figure and use a performance governor.

i would actually consider rooting the phone as an alternative, or getting a bigger battery. i have alot of issue with the battery life previously, but after switching rom, it actually help alot

Well it is rooted to enable JD and setcpu to work. But I haven't dared go further because I am still trying to understand the entire process - and also the way back!
I probably will eventually.
I've ordered a 1500 Mugen - and if that actually exists and if it is an improvement on the stock battery then that will advance things as well.
I'm very pleased with the improvement I have achieved so far because at least I'm able to take the thing off the tit for a full working day and use it as a real mobile phone!!

lampz said:
your on stock rom mate?
i can see that you can charge your phone while its turnd off..
i think on customized ROM like ARHD LD CORE cm7 and etc cannot charge their phone while its off because iT will BOOTup to recovery mode
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this is only true if you're using CMW Recovery 3.x.x.x

redlinux said:
this is only true if you're using CMW Recovery 3.x.x.x
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No, its on all versions of cwm, you can still charge your phone though, even in recovery
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AndroHero said:
No, its on all versions of cwm, you can still charge your phone though, even in recovery
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Yup2x, it's true that we can charge it very well while in recovery mode. I was referring to the situation wherein the printer reboots to recovery as soon as you plug in the charger to your DHD. Some users have reported that and they are all using 3.x.x.x.

lejars1 said:
So I set the same max/min figure and use a performance governor.
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As far as I've understood, you will always have max frequency when performance is applied. So there is no use setting min value really as it doesn't matter.
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Vispe85 said:
So basically you've downgraded the DHD to a level of a Nokia S40 device imo As this has been covered by many others in many other battery life related threads I'm just saying this short and simple. Just use the device as it is supposed to, enjoy the awesome features it provides at the full potential and don't get fixated on the battery life, it'll get you through the day no problem (doesn't include playing angry birds for three hours straight ) and just plug it in when you have the chance.
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By far the most excellent advice. I totally agree with you.

[GUIDE] How I got almost 3 days of battery life on my Nexus S 4G

First and foremost this guide is based around the Sprint Nexus S 4G. If you do not have the Nexus S 4G, Than this guide will probably not help you. =)
Secondly all credit goes to the wonderful people that work endlessly to make these wonderful Roms and Kernels. Without you guys Android wouldn't be what it is today!
Third: Please make a back up and use this guide at your own risk. I don't want to bare the weight of someone turning their phone into a paperweight by using this guide.
Alright, Now lets get to the fun part.
Case you've already forgotten why you're ready this topic. This is my rough how-to guide on getting easily over 2 days out of a single charge on your phone, Very much possible to push 3 or more days depending on use and other varying factors.
What you're going to need to start:
- Rooted Nexus S 4G with a custom recovery like Clockwork mod.
- Flash the following Rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417499
- Flash the following Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436313
-Flash the following "KL2" Radio update http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077168
After you have flashed all the above and confirmed your phone is running stable with all the default settings. Charge your phone to 100% and reboot back into recovery, and WIPE YOUR BATTERY STATS
Now. Lets begin configuring your rom and kernel!
- Install CPU MASTER FREE from the android market https://market.android.com/details?id=com.antutu.CpuMasterFree&hl=en
Set the following on CPU Master
- CPU Speed 800 MAX and 100MIN
- CPU Governor CONSERVATIVE
- and Scheduler set to CFQ
- Make sure to click apply on boot as well
- Now Install NSTOOLS from the Android market https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.cyann.nstools&feature=search_result
Set the following on NSTOOLS
- DEEP IDLE: ENABLED
- Backlight Dimmer: ENABLED
- Make sure Backlight Notifications are left disabled. It keeps phone from idling properly.
- Leave all other settings alone and make sure to check set on boot
- Now lastly install Antutu Battery Saver from the Android Market
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.antutu.powersaver&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbnR1dHUucG93ZXJzYXZlciJd
Activate Battery Saver and set to level 2 battery save. Easy as that.
Basically your done! =)
If you notice your phone has a slightly worse or little to no improvement on the battery this is due to you deleting your battery stats. As you use your phone it will write new stats and you will begin to notice a difference after a few cycles. Just make sure your battery is charged when you wipe them, Let the phone run almost completely dead. Plug it up, Let it charge back to 100%, Unplug it. Rinse and repeat. Just be sure to unplug it when you notice it's fully charged even if you don't plan on going anywhere. Just let it sit and run on battery so that it calibrates the battery stats while it's idle as well.
Now as you should already know your battery life is going to heavily depend on use and SIGNAL STRENGTH. It seems a lot of people don't realize the more signal you have the longer your battery will last. If you're in an area with very low signal it can kill your phone in a matter of hours.
I have attached a screen shot of my battery life using this above method. Other settings I will mention
- WIFI ENABLED and CONNECTED
- Bluetooth and NFC DISABLED
- Automatic backlight control enabled
- Facebook notifcations, Weather and Contacts are the only things set to SYNC on my phone.
- Usage: Light to moderate. This includes a few texts throughout the day. A few phone calls, and a brief checking of facebook every now and then.
If I'm missing anything I will update this post. That is all for now. Happy modding and may this tutorial work the same wonders for you as it did me.
Also I should state that the phone finally died at around 2Days 17hrs on battery. My goal for 3 straight days was cut short after a few 30 minute phone calls and other work I had to do on the phone.
If you have any questions. Feel free to post, or PM me. I'll be here =)

cwayn1989 said:
First and foremost this guide is based around the Sprint Nexus S 4G. If you do not have the Nexus S 4G, Than this guide will probably not help you. =)
Secondly all credit goes to the wonderful people that work endlessly to make these wonderful Roms and Kernels. Without you guys Android wouldn't be what it is today!
Third: Please make a back up and use this guide at your own risk. I don't want to bare the weight of someone turning their phone into a paperweight by using this guide.
Alright, Now lets get to the fun part.
Case you've already forgotten why you're ready this topic. This is my rough how-to guide on getting easily over 2 days out of a single charge on your phone, Very much possible to push 3 or more days depending on use and other varying factors.
What you're going to need to start:
- Rooted Nexus S 4G with a custom recovery like Clockwork mod.
- Flash the following Rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417499
- Flash the following Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436313
-Flash the following "KL2" Radio update http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077168
After you have flashed all the above and confirmed your phone is running stable with all the default settings. Charge your phone to 100% and reboot back into recovery, and WIPE YOUR BATTERY STATS
Now. Lets begin configuring your rom and kernel!
- Install CPU MASTER FREE from the android market https://market.android.com/details?id=com.antutu.CpuMasterFree&hl=en
Set the following on CPU Master
- CPU Speed 800 MAX and 100MIN
- CPU Governor CONSERVATIVE
- and Scheduler set to CFQ
- Make sure to click apply on boot as well
- Now Install NSTOOLS from the Android market https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.cyann.nstools&feature=search_result
Set the following on NSTOOLS
- DEEP IDLE: ENABLED
- Backlight Dimmer: ENABLED
- Make sure Backlight Notifications are left disabled. It keeps phone from idling properly.
- Leave all other settings alone and make sure to check set on boot
- Now lastly install Antutu Battery Saver from the Android Market
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbnR1dHUucG93ZXJzYXZlciJd
Activate Battery Saver and set to level 2 battery save. Easy as that.
Basically your done! =)
If you notice your phone has a slightly worse or little to no improvement on the battery this is due to you deleting your battery stats. As you use your phone it will write new stats and you will begin to notice a difference after a few cycles. Just make sure your battery is charged when you wipe them, Let the phone run almost completely dead. Plug it up, Let it charge back to 100%, Unplug it. Rinse and repeat. Just be sure to unplug it when you notice it's fully charged even if you don't plan on going anywhere. Just let it sit and run on battery so that it calibrates the battery stats while it's idle as well.
Now as you should already know your battery life is going to heavily depend on use and SIGNAL STRENGTH. It seems a lot of people don't realize the more signal you have the longer your battery will last. If you're in an area with very low signal it can kill your phone in a matter of hours.
I have attached a screen shot of my battery life using this above method. Other settings I will mention
- WIFI ENABLED and CONNECTED
- Bluetooth and NFC DISABLED
- Automatic backlight control enabled
- Facebook notifcations, Weather and Contacts are the only things set to SYNC on my phone.
- Usage: Light to moderate. This includes a few texts throughout the day. A few phone calls, and a brief checking of facebook every now and then.
If I'm missing anything I will update this post. That is all for now. Happy modding and may this tutorial work the same wonders for you as it did me.
Also I should state that the phone finally died at around 2Days 17hrs on battery. My goal for 3 straight days was cut short after a few 30 minute phone calls and other work I had to do on the phone.
If you have any questions. Feel free to post, or PM me. I'll be here =)
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I thought it was the More Bars you have the more Data Kills Your Battery... but sprints 3G sucks .. some users only experience a .5kbs to 1.0 Mbs (if your lucky) ... that being said I think that's why your battery lasts longer. But then again I'm on Wifi so my battery has lasted all day ^_^ 15% left. Nfc on , Bluetooth off , screen at 50% brightness and heavy usage. Buuuut in your screen shot below your on 3G ... the 2 days.. was it always on Wifi?
- Google

What is your screen on time?
I don't use any "power-saving" apps, just AOKP Milestone 2 with Steve Garon's 1.14 kernel to run 50hrs with nearly 4hrs of screen time.
100/1100mhz, interactive governor, standard voltage, bln/bld on, wifi used whenever available. It doesn't help that my office is in a poor signal area - battery life would be much better if the signal reception bar stayed green all the time.
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iGoogleNexus said:
I thought it was the More Bars you have the more Data Kills Your Battery... but sprints 3G sucks .. some users only experience a .5kbs to 1.0 Mbs (if your lucky) ... that being said I think that's why your battery lasts longer. But then again I'm on Wifi so my battery has lasted all day ^_^ 15% left. Nfc on , Bluetooth off , screen at 50% brightness and heavy usage. Buuuut in your screen shot below your on 3G ... the 2 days.. was it always on Wifi?
- Google
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Screen time out is on 30 seconds. and Wifi was connected virutally through the entire time, exception was when I visited a friends house which is why in the screenshot it does not say it's connected, However it was still active.

Braneless said:
What is your screen on time?
I don't use any "power-saving" apps, just AOKP Milestone 2 with Steve Garon's 1.14 kernel to run 50hrs with nearly 4hrs of screen time.
100/1100mhz, interactive governor, standard voltage, bln/bld on, wifi used whenever available. It doesn't help that my office is in a poor signal area - battery life would be much better if the signal reception bar stayed green all the time.
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Those are very nice stats, Question, On your battery log, What are the massive drops in battery from? low signal or just heavy use on your phone?
Also I believe I'm going to go back an retry my experiment with SmartassV2 governor and On Demand. because I recently read they are better than conservative.
By all means play around with these settings and if you report back something I can approve on I will be happy to update this post and give credit to whoever finds more tricks to improving the battery life even more =)

cwayn1989 said:
Those are very nice stats, Question, On your battery log, What are the massive drops in battery from? low signal or just heavy use on your phone?
Also I believe I'm going to go back an retry my experiment with SmartassV2 governor and On Demand. because I recently read they are better than conservative.
By all means play around with these settings and if you report back something I can approve on I will be happy to update this post and give credit to whoever finds more tricks to improving the battery life even more =)
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They're from heavy use, probably angry birds or web browsing. The poor signal usually results in much slower drain.
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Braneless said:
They're from heavy use, probably angry birds or web browsing. The poor signal usually results in much slower drain.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium
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Not saying you're wrong, but based on past experience when I lived in an area where my phone was constantly losing and gaining signal or especially switching between Verizon (Roaming) and Sprint to find a signal, My phone would get very warm and it would cause massive battery drain.

Also in regards to the Sprints 3G speed.
Here in town where I live now, with the new KL2 radio
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I have attached screenshots of 3G speeds. It seems today when I ran the test the speeds aren't that special, I guess it all depends on network load.

Braneless said:
What is your screen on time?
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This ^
I can get about 4-5 hrs on screen-on time a day with a full charge before it dies. I couldn't imagine spreading that amount of time over three days unless I was travelling again or something lol
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kyouko said:
This ^
I can get about 4-5 hrs on screen-on time a day with a full charge before it dies. I couldn't imagine spreading that amount of time over three days unless I was travelling again or something lol
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Haha yeah sorry about that guys, That could have been helpful for me to post, but I actually just now realized you could view your screen on hours by clicking it. I feel about stupid now.
After I tweak some more settings and do this little experiment again I'll be sure to actually include that, Seeing as it would have been helpful LOL

Braneless said:
What is your screen on time?
I don't use any "power-saving" apps, just AOKP Milestone 2 with Steve Garon's 1.14 kernel to run 50hrs with nearly 4hrs of screen time.
100/1100mhz, interactive governor, standard voltage, bln/bld on, wifi used whenever available. It doesn't help that my office is in a poor signal area - battery life would be much better if the signal reception bar stayed green all the time.
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How do you get your phone to idle so well? I can never get the battery stats to flatline like that. Could it be due to me having BLN turned on as the OP said that causes an idle bug?

tycruickshank said:
How do you get your phone to idle so well? I can never get the battery stats to flatline like that. Could it be due to me having BLN turned on as the OP said that causes an idle bug?
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There's a possibly you're running an app in the background that's preventing your phone from deep idling. Also try the battery saving app I mentioned in the post as well. It works wonders for some, and others don't notice difference. There's a lot of varying factors.
Have you wiped your battery stats and calibrated your battery with the method I mentioned above? Also you can check to see if your phone is deep idling by going into NSTools and clicking Idle stats.
If you see that your idle numbs are higher than your deep idle stats, Than yes, Something is preventing you're phone from doing so, and I would recommend disabling BLN and seeing if that fixes it.
It could be an issue with BLN and it may not be. My entire post is basically the steps and settings I've figured out and tweaked on my own to achieve maximum battery. I've read around and it seems some others have used BLN without any noticeable difference in battery at all. I guess it really just depends.
Also to the other post, The main reason I run my phone unclocked is basically, in use, I prefer the CPU to be at the lowest max speed possible, while remaining smooth, and I've noticed no lag at 800max, So therefor even when I'm using my phone it's still not going to be pulling as much power as if lets say I had it set to 1000 or 1100. Overclocking is great, Don't get me wrong, but unless you're doing something heavy like gaming or a sheet ton of crazy multitasking, I don't really think it's worth it. That's just my opinion though =)

So you're at home all this time? Then why go through all this trouble and handicapping of features and performance? Why not just plug it in?

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So you're at home all this time? Then why go through all this trouble and handicapping of features and performance? Why not just plug it in?
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How exactly am I handicapping? I had people asking me how I was getting my battery life and wanted me to post up details on it, so I decided I would. I run an underclocked phone because like I stated in my previous post, I don't see the point in running a overclocked phone unless you're going for benchmarks or doing a lot of heavy multitasking and then by all means, Take the 5 seconds to change your max CPU speed. If you're referring to me not running BLN, That's because for some, including me it keeps your phone from idling and will cause battery drain. It works fine for some, others it doesn't. I'm SURE it's a problem on my end, but until I get it worked out I'm just leaving it off for now.
I've been learning about rooting and modding since the Sprint HTC Hero days. I'm far from a professional and will be the first to admit I'm an amateur compared to you guys, I cannot develop, I cannot code. I'm simply wrote this guide as a reference point for people wanting to get good battery life, That's why I said tweak with the settings and have fun.
The main reason I'm so ecstatic about the battery life, is up until now I've barely been able to get a days normal use out of an android phone even running custom roms and all that good stuff. Now I can actually use my phone throughout the day, Throw it on my dresser at night, and wake up the next morning with still enough charge to use it again without having to worry about plugging it up every night.

Home or not, this info can prove to be very useful depending on an individual's circumstance. I work multiple jobs and when I get home, sometimes I'm so tired I don't even bother to fiddle with my phone's charging cable and just crash on my bed. I've gotten great battery life using similar tactics (went to bed with a 13% charge once, woke up with the thing still alive and kicking), so again, some may find this extremely helpful. Good work!

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Home or not, this info can prove to be very useful depending on an individual's circumstance. I work multiple jobs and when I get home, sometimes I'm so tired I don't even bother to fiddle with my phone's charging cable and just crash on my bed. I've gotten great battery life using similar tactics (went to bed with a 13% charge once, woke up with the thing still alive and kicking), so again, some may find this extremely helpful. Good work!
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Thank you kind sir. I'm glad you were able to find this poorly formatted guide useful! =D

Poor battery life

http://i.imgur.com/HuW8tQu.png
I hardly used my device at all and in three days the battery had been reduced down to this.
I'm running stock and I'm using mkernel. What's the operating system doing when my device is idle to consume all that battery life?

Most likely location based services such as Google Now.
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Battery life looks pretty good to me. Idle is not off. If you want better battery life, turn the nexus off when not in use.
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Would installing set cpu benefit me even though I run m kernel?

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Would installing set cpu benefit me even though I run m kernel?
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No, and it's not recommended for this kernel. You probably have some application using the CPU. And keep in mind, that's over 3.5 days, so it's not too be worried about.
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Not really sure what you are looking for.
Your tablet is configured differently (read: installed apps & their settings, never mind ROM & kernel differences) than the next person's, and those configuration changes alter the activity on the device and therefore the amount of power it consumes vs time. If what you observe is unacceptable to you, you need to drill down into the details to try and optimize things. But it really is impossible for anybody to guess (from a completely blind position on the other side of the internet) what might be the cause; if that is indeed anomalous consumption compared to some benchmark (pure stock, no market apps installed & a dormant gmail account?), the cause could be due to an unlimited number of different causes.
Perhaps you want to use that app BetterBatteryStats ($2.89) to find out about wake lock usage.
FWIW, my rooted stock 4.2.2 N7 grouper tab seems to discharge about 4% "overnight". Call that 10 hrs or so, so maybe I should expect 10% discharge per day while idle and unplugged. Your result seems to suggest 16%/day; but I've made no effort to dig in to things on my end of things - and besides: my results are irrelevant to yours as I no doubt use a different collection of apps than you and possibly different settings for the stock apps, too.
In my case the idle drain rate isn't a very compelling use case - I use the tablet every day, and when it is idle it is plugged into its' charger. If it should happen that it sat idle for a couple days, it's gonna be at 100% when I decide to use it.

Sv: Poor battery life
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http://i.imgur.com/HuW8tQu.png
I hardly used my device at all and in three days the battery had been reduced down to this.
I'm running stock and I'm using mkernel. What's the operating system doing when my device is idle to consume all that battery life?
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And the problem is?
Around 6 days of standby, and you want to improve that?
If you want to improve that, turn off your tablet. I'm sure u can spare those 60 sec two times a day you turn on your tablet to check mail.

Keep WiFi off when not in use and you should see a great improvement. I use stock kernel and over that same time period my battery is about the same with about 3 hours screen on time. I only turn WiFi on when I'm actually using it as anything I need synced goes to my phone.
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Try better battery stats and see what keeps your cpu from going to sleep state..With this way you can examine what drains your battery my friend.,.

Try turning off auto-sync. (Data usage settings)
Never keep wifi on when sleep (you will lose notification to chat programs, social network app notifications when sleeping)
Use wifi powersafe mode.(Wifi advance settings)
Turn off/disable unneeded background update/apps/extensions/services and flash a rom with minimal google stock apps)
Of course, check for apps that are currently consuming power if any. (App settings, internal application setting)
M kernel also defaults cpu max to 1500Mhz ; stock is 1200. M kernel also sets gpu to 446Mhz ; stock 416Mhz. Altho this numbers might seem minimal, it can affect your battery life considerably shall there be background processing or even right after you start using your device again despite minimally in your case. (Use n download trickstermod)
These might or might not help you in getting more standby time, try and experiment =>
If you are also looking for more screen on time and if you know and accept the risks, you can try undervolting the cpu, gpu and ram in trickstermod, you can also use rootdim to go lower the screen backlight further, but do not go lower than value 4/255 as that is 'off'. thankfully you can set it to not go below 4 in the in app settings before you play with it. My configuration pushed to 8hrs+ screen time without any gaming =>
Do note that li-ion/poly batteries need to drain over time for batt health reasons. They generally last longer if kept in the 20-80% range. Room temp can also affevt battery drain significantly, cold < 26C room drains the batt real fast; and so does hot rooms >34c due to temp & conductivity relationships (batt needs to suply more due to less conductivity in the circuits when hot)

Nexus 4 battery the first week

Hey guys. I'm wondering how much better the battery has gotten since the first week y'all got it, to now.
For me I'm satisfied with the battery and I've had it for 4 days. I get about 2-2.5 hours screen on time with fairly heavy internet usage, texting, etc.

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Hey guys. I'm wondering how much better the battery has gotten since the first week y'all got it, to now.
For me I'm satisfied with the battery and I've had it for 4 days. I get about 2-2.5 hours screen on time with fairly heavy internet usage, texting, etc.
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Are you taking any measures to save battery life, like certain screen brightness, disabling of certain features or radios, undervolting or CPU/Governor changes, etc?
First thing I installed on mine ( haven't had mine a week yet ) was Battery Monitor Widger Pro, since I've used that on my past devices when I was testing out generic batteries (speaking of which the 8$ ebay 3800mAh on my Desire-Z is still kicking strong after a year).
Problem with estimates, is that they are basically just that, and the difference between browsing on mobile vs browsing on wifi or mix, and your reception quality can also have an impact on your battery. (in the end, your screen is the biggest impact).
Mine lately, say if I had it charged at 100% , it'll take about 2 hours on mobile to get to 91%, with the screen being on about 25%-35% of that time (auto-brightness), receive/send text, take out of pocket to check email or facebook notifications, and so forth. Which would normally show as screen 30%, Google services 13%, Wifi 9% (when I had it on between house and destination). Phone idle 8%, Android OS 7% etc.
The widget I mentioned earlier can basically monitor your draw from time to time and if the screen was off or on and such during those times (default interval on it if using a widget is around 10 minutes on the logging, shorter may actually impact the battery it's monitoring oddly enough)
PS: The other day when I actually drained it down to 0% it took about 5-6 hours

Beerad875 said:
Hey guys. I'm wondering how much better the battery has gotten since the first week y'all got it, to now.
For me I'm satisfied with the battery and I've had it for 4 days. I get about 2-2.5 hours screen on time with fairly heavy internet usage, texting, etc.
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I had about 3-4.5 hours of screen time other moderate to heavy usage on my first week as I was testing it's battery life. As that I just used my phone under light to moderate usage. My brightness level is always at it's lowest but when I'm outside I turn it up to about 50%. I rarely play games on my device. I read a lot on my phone. I use my phone to record lectures in class and do a bit of homework on it. 7 months later and I'm pretty much doing the same. I have a custom kernel installed and I'm really confidence about it. I carry a external battery pack with me all the time but I hardly use. After having a custom kernel for the past 7 months I can say battery life has been relativity the same screen time wise. I learned how to manage my apps so they won't prevent my phone from sleeping to save power. Your mileage will vary depending on what you're doing on your phone and how you manage your device. Cell service is crucial to the phone. If you're in area with little to no service your device will use up more power to stay connected. This is when "Airplane mode" comes in handy.

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Are you taking any measures to save battery life, like certain screen brightness, disabling of certain features or radios, undervolting or CPU/Governor changes, etc?
First thing I installed on mine ( haven't had mine a week yet ) was Battery Monitor Widger Pro, since I've used that on my past devices when I was testing out generic batteries (speaking of which the 8$ ebay 3800mAh on my Desire-Z is still kicking strong after a year).
Problem with estimates, is that they are basically just that, and the difference between browsing on mobile vs browsing on wifi or mix, and your reception quality can also have an impact on your battery. (in the end, your screen is the biggest impact).
Mine lately, say if I had it charged at 100% , it'll take about 2 hours on mobile to get to 91%, with the screen being on about 25%-35% of that time (auto-brightness), receive/send text, take out of pocket to check email or facebook notifications, and so forth. Which would normally show as screen 30%, Google services 13%, Wifi 9% (when I had it on between house and destination). Phone idle 8%, Android OS 7% etc.
The widget I mentioned earlier can basically monitor your draw from time to time and if the screen was off or on and such during those times (default interval on it if using a widget is around 10 minutes on the logging, shorter may actually impact the battery it's monitoring oddly enough)
PS: The other day when I actually drained it down to 0% it took about 5-6 hours
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Nah. All stock, not rooted yet, auto-brightness, No auto sync. I don't get very good service at my work and I was about 28% without service during the time I was there. I would get on facebook and message people on facebook and text, surf the internet etc because it was slow. I had maybe 2 hours screen time and 8% battery life when I left work. It was probably 9 hours off the charger. Here. I'll post a screen shot after this post (On my computer right now)

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Nah. All stock, not rooted yet, auto-brightness, No auto sync. I don't get very good service at my work and I was about 28% without service during the time I was there. I would get on facebook and message people on facebook and text, surf the internet etc because it was slow. I had maybe 2 hours screen time and 8% battery life when I left work. It was probably 9 hours off the charger. Here. I'll post a screen shot after this post (On my computer right now)
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One of the benefits to custom roms (though 'stock' on a nexus is well AOSP so...) is the ability to tweak that stuff to finer details, top it off with a custom kernel and can optimize even further. Just a matter of how far you want to take it.
I have a history of immediately rooting anything I get my hands on, so I tend to have very little experience with stock. But the Nexus devices are probably the only ones I could survive having stock (but rooted) as opposed to say touchWhiz on samsung.

I can say that this phone charges FAAAAAAST.

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One of the benefits to custom roms (though 'stock' on a nexus is well AOSP so...) is the ability to tweak that stuff to finer details, top it off with a custom kernel and can optimize even further. Just a matter of how far you want to take it.
I have a history of immediately rooting anything I get my hands on, so I tend to have very little experience with stock. But the Nexus devices are probably the only ones I could survive having stock (but rooted) as opposed to say touchWhiz on samsung.
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Coming from the the backflip's motoblur to the Captivate's touchwiz then onto One X's sense to AOSP.. I'm going to stay android purist from now on. I'm in love with AOSP

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Coming from the the backflip's motoblur to the Captivate's touchwiz then onto One X's sense to AOSP.. I'm going to stay android purist from now on. I'm in love with AOSP
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At least all the available kernels work just fine with AOSP. (Francos seems to be pretty popular for battery, I prefer bricked though on both my N4 and N7).

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At least all the available kernels work just fine with AOSP. (Francos seems to be pretty popular for battery, I prefer bricked though on both my N4 and N7).
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Why do you prefer them?
So with battery monitor widget pro do I just let it run and collect data?

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At least all the available kernels work just fine with AOSP. (Francos seems to be pretty popular for battery, I prefer bricked though on both my N4 and N7).
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Guess tonight I'm going to work on getting it drained down to 0% just remembered it was my N7 that I did a full cycle on with monitoring, I haven't done so yet to the N4.
PS: I usually do a dual-graph (mV and mA), but in this screenshot you can see generally speaking with my current configuration, I tend to drain around 200-300 mA screen on, and around -20-50 with it off.
PS#2 : It only went up to the -400 or so mA on the top right because I had changed my screen brightness to about half instead of autobrightness.

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Why do you prefer them?
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Additional options. Take for example the Bricked kernel for the N4 in my signature. This is it's feature list, it's not aimed for hardcore overclockers or such but gives you some options (The one for the Nexus 7 is a bit more configurable during the installation).
* Based upon Googles msm 3.4 source
* Various other fixes (look @ github)
* Compiled with gcc4.7.2 toolchain (linaro 09.12)
* -O3 optimized
* Snapdragon S4 & CortexA15 optimizations
* Sweep2wake
* 192Mhz min clock
* replaced qcoms hotplug binary with msm_mpdecision (IN-KERNEL, better battery life + performance)
* Extensive sysfs interface for mpdecision with all the tuneables you want (/sys/kernel/msm_mpdecision/)
* replaced the thermald binary with my IN-KERNEL solution. (/sys/kernel/msm_thermal/)
* export krait version to: /sys/kernel/debug/krait_variant
* modified ondemand governor
* Allow OC up to 1,83Ghz, faux123 (from a thermal point of view that is now SAFE)
* Fixed min cpufreq resets
* Undervolting (faux123)
* Default clocks: 384min & 1512max
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Sweep2Wake is kind of nice too, you just slide accross the screen to turn it on without having to touch the power button (And yes your phone is still asleep doing this, it just works off interupts.)
other kernels can be a bit more involved, such as being aimed towards overclocking the CPU or GPU, or adding in extra features not normally found in stock, and so forth. I've had the best luck with Bricked and Francos'
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So with battery monitor widget pro do I just let it run and collect data?
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Yep, if you have a widget on the home screen (I usually do 2x1 size) it'll collect every 10 mins by default. If you don't use a widget you'd have to check a box in preference to monitor without widget or it won't log times (note for example the missing 'blocks' from my history log).
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Speaking of battery, anyone ever gotten more than say 800mA charge on their N4? Cuz even on my old Desire-Z if I plugged it into a 2.1A charger it would actually charge up around 1300-1500mA, but with the Nexus 4 seems that even on a 2.1A port it rarely charges more than 500-600mA.
It'll probably become more accurate once I actually drain it down to 0% and have the widget record it's history from 0% to 100% since it bases a lot of it's mA estimates off that (ie: off the rate of decrease of the battery's mv since batteries typically have a certain voltage once they hit near 0% and when they're at 100%, comebine that with what it knows the battery's mA to be it can determine the charge/discharge based off that).

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[/COLOR]Speaking of battery, anyone ever gotten more than say 800mA charge on their N4? Cuz even on my old Desire-Z if I plugged it into a 2.1A charger it would actually charge up around 1300-1500mA, but with the Nexus 4 seems that even on a 2.1A port it rarely charges more than 500-600mA.
It'll probably become more accurate once I actually drain it down to 0% and have the widget record it's history from 0% to 100% since it bases a lot of it's mA estimates off that (ie: off the rate of decrease of the battery's mv since batteries typically have a certain voltage once they hit near 0% and when they're at 100%, comebine that with what it knows the battery's mA to be it can determine the charge/discharge based off that).
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I can get back to you when I figure this app out more and start using it.
What'd you say your screen on time usually was?

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I can get back to you when I figure this app out more and start using it.
What'd you say your screen on time usually was?
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Just in the last 2 hours or so, probably 30-45 minutes. I was in the car so it wasn't coming on all that often. Since I actually have the widget on my home screen now, I'll just post an update again probably in the morning as I play with the phone some more, maybe play a game or two (I'll set a Market in the battery history before I start and after I end it).
Far as figuring it out, it's pretty easy since most of it is already set up by default once you open it. You can basically just pop a 2x1 widget on the home screen and just leave it.

My battery life has improved drastically by just sticking with one setup and letting the phone get used to it. That means keep the same rom and kernel so the phone settles in and gets used to it. After a few cycles your usage should increase.
I recommend straight CM 10.1 with Franco kernel.
Also use 2g instead of HSPA+ when you're not using data to save power.
If you're using touch control, don't, it drains more power for sure.
Undervolting helps too.
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If you're using touch control, don't, it drains more power for sure.
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Can you clarify on this, other than the power/volume there's not much else to actually control the phone with.

kbeezie said:
Can you clarify on this, other than the power/volume there's not much else to actually control the phone with.
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The app 'touch control' , many nexus 4 owners use it to wake and lock the phone using touch gestures in place of the traditional power button. In my usage it definitely drains the battery quicker.
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nyyankees1237 said:
The app 'touch control' , many nexus 4 owners use it to wake and lock the phone using touch gestures in place of the traditional power button. In my usage it definitely drains the battery quicker.
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Oh you mean like Sweep2Wake in the Bricked Kernel I'm using, except that doesn't use any battery cuz that's in the kernel using interrupts rather than an app that would keep the phone awake. (course that's all it does too, wake, nothing more sophisticated than that).
But yea I didn't know about that app.

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Just in the last 2 hours or so, probably 30-45 minutes. I was in the car so it wasn't coming on all that often. Since I actually have the widget on my home screen now, I'll just post an update again probably in the morning as I play with the phone some more, maybe play a game or two (I'll set a Market in the battery history before I start and after I end it).
Far as figuring it out, it's pretty easy since most of it is already set up by default once you open it. You can basically just pop a 2x1 widget on the home screen and just leave it.
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So yeah. You should drain it then report with some screenshots.

It's at 44% right now
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