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Rooting the G2? A little help kinda confused with things.

Hey guys ill be joining this side of the forums now on monday and I'm really excited. Just I'm kinda confused about a few things and I was wondering if anyone could help enlighten a few things for me.
I know what Root is, S-off, Cid yada yada and I'm not new to rooting at all. I have adb and etc and I kinda want to do this on ubuntu because my vista is kind of janky at times.
Now apparently there is Temporary Root and Permanent Root and of course I want Permanent root, s-off, etc.
1.Now from what I read there has been apparently an update that updated the G2 to 1.22 or something like that? I read its rootable apparently but you need a windows application called gfree or something? Is this possible to do using just ubuntu?
2. Now to obtain root, s-off etc do I have to obtain temporary root first, then permanent root? Its kinda confusing coming in a noob to this device and trying to figure this all out. And do the methods vary with which firmwire your phone comes with? I'm assuming mines will come with the newest OTA since I'm receiving it Monday.
3. Also from what I'm seeing apparently having S-off and root and what not matters on what rom your running also? I don't want to flash a rom then end up loosing root or something. And Noo I DO NOT want to stay stock once I obtain root. I'm kind of a flashoholic.
Thanks to anyone willing to help I really appreciate it.
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gfree is a program rum on your phone... it "sets you 'G'2 free"... but i had a lot of problems getting gfree to work with the new g2 i got in the mail... check out my post on cyanogen... this is how i got root and latest radio img's... its under forums and htc desire z / g2... how to fix a bricked g2 and root a g2 another way...

Visionary way was mad easy for me. Check out unlockr.com for it
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GhostZini said:
Visionary way was mad easy for me. Check out unlockr.com for it
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Link to it?
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Shaquiel Harris said:
Link to it?
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Here this link has the video links in it for the unlockr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10244704&postcount=2
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joemm said:
Here this link has the video links in it for the unlockr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10244704&postcount=2
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Shouldn't yall warn him about using VISIONary first? SOMETIMES, no NOT all the time but SOMETIMES people get stuck in a boot loop from using the VISIONary method. I would not recommended it, if you have know how to use ADB, use it. I'm pretty sure that they have ADB for Linux because they do have the Android SDK on Linux(at least I think they do). All you need to do in order to root with the safer/recommended way is ADB. All you have to do is ADB Push some files to your phone then run them on your phone's Terminal Emulator App, its pretty simple. Though I have not personally rooted a G2 yet(I get mine tomorrow) but I have spent at least a week learning about how to root the G2.

Check out the wiki, explains how to root using rage+gfree.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
I followed these instructions and rooted my phone fairly easily.

KoolKidsKlub said:
Shouldn't yall warn him about using VISIONary first? SOMETIMES, no NOT all the time but SOMETIMES people get stuck in a boot loop from using the VISIONary method. I would not recommended it, if you have know how to use ADB, use it. I'm pretty sure that they have ADB for Linux because they do have the Android SDK on Linux(at least I think they do). All you need to do in order to root with the safer/recommended way is ADB. All you have to do is ADB Push some files to your phone then run them on your phone's Terminal Emulator App, its pretty simple. Though I have not personally rooted a G2 yet(I get mine tomorrow) but I have spent at least a week learning about how to root the G2.
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First of all follow the link I gave him, did you bother to do that, there was a warning, second of all I've helped a lot of people root following the videos and have had zero bricks as long as they do everything I posted in the link, third I rooted this way with zero problems, when people brick their phones its not visionary that bricks phones it people that think they know how to properly use visionary when they don't that bricks phones, its not just pressing the " attempt perm root" button to root your phone, you have to press certain settings in order to use it right.
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First of all read the entire link I gave him, there was a warning, second of all I've helped a lot of people root following the videos and have had zero bricks as long as they do everything I posted in the link, third I rooted this way with zero problems, when people brick their phones its not visionary that bricks phones it people that think they know how to properly use visionary when they don't that bricks phones, its not just pressing the " attempt perm root" button to root your phone, you have to press certain settings in order to use it right.
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You may be right, but all the bricks that I have seen on this forum are from people using the VISIONary app. I haven't seen a single person brick using the Rage and GFree method.

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You may be right, but all the bricks that I have seen on this forum are from people using the VISIONary app. I haven't seen a single person brick using the Rage and GFree method.
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I've seen bootloops from people using rage and gfree too, guess you better search a little harder since your gonna attempt perm root tommorow.
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joemm said:
I've seen bootloops from people using rage and gfree too, guess you better search a little harder since your gonna attempt perm root tommorow.
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Alright and how would one fix a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree? I have searched before but I never found anything on it.
EDIT: And if you could, please show me some links with people stuck in a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree, I would like to read it and learn from their mistakes so that I don't do them.

KoolKidsKlub said:
Alright and how would one fix a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree? I have searched before but I never found anything on it.
EDIT: And if you could, please show me some links with people stuck in a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree, I would like to read it and learn from their mistakes so that I don't do them.
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When I get home i'll find the links for you, and you know I got to hand it to you, at least you do research and learn before you even got your phone, I wish more people would take the same approach as you.
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Im rooted and done, Just got the phone today....used this method on this wiki..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision

Well I'm doing research on it as well. thanks you guys for your resposes. I love this community people actually attempt to help. Trust guys I did my research and all that so I'm not a noob. Just a noob to this device that's all.
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david279 said:
Im rooted and done, Just got the phone today....used this method on this wiki..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
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hey david279, which radio(bandbase) did you have on your new G2 when you rooted with GFree?

Hmm just to make shure. I obtain root first, then use that gfree app on my rooted vision to get sim unlock, s-off etc?
Never mind just read it. This is actually really simple. *facepalm* sorry guys for the thread space ill get my topic removed.

I had the 26.03.02.26. I updated it to the newest one in the radio thread in the dev forum. I gotta use to those long radio version numbers.
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david279 said:
I had the 26.03.02.26. I updated it to the newest one in the radio thread in the dev forum. I gotta use to those long radio version numbers.
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Thanks, just confirming that 26.03.02.26 was still rootable with the wiki root instructions, there seems to be some confusion about if you can still root the 26.03.02.26 radio with the wiki, and you just confirmed that you still can.
Thanks Again, and happy flashing.

Rooting this phone reminded me of when I had a hero. That simple. I got a evo too and that was something to root when it first was released.
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david279 said:
I had the 26.03.02.26. I updated it to the newest one in the radio thread in the dev forum. I gotta use to those long radio version numbers.
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Exactly the info I was looking for I will be rooting later today.

[Q] How can I root my G2 with stock 2.3.4 Android?

Ok so I got this new phone in replacement from the motorola defy... the tmobile tech gave it the official 2.3.4 update but I want it rooted. Does any one know how can I do this to my phone?
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SEARCH. READ.
This thread has been made many many times. Check the threads, the wiki, etc.. There are ways to downgrade and achieve root now.

You can do it, but you have to use frevo and abd.
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follow this guide to downgrade the g2/DZ to stock Froyo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Then you can permroot your device by following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD

dude if u havent done it yet..way simpler way to do this http://techticians.com/index.php/mobile-tech/14-mobile-phones/27-rooting-the-t-mobile-g2

wow thats a good deal for the defy....

@martonikaj maybe you can help a dude out--i am not able to push the files to the device at all i keep getting permission denied in the command prompt and also if i do the downgrade(get it to work that means the radio has been downgraded as well)can i get that back because it really improved my signal in some areas where i had only 2g service i now get 4g--i read the wiki backwards and forwards although i broke my stock usb cable maybe this is the problem im using one that i picked up from the tmo store just the general one--i got adb and sdk all that jazz got a pretty good understanding for a noob so im kind of stuck...

Mt4G root 2.3.4

Hello yall im new to the mt4g I came from droid x im pretty good with rooting and flashing that phone but this one wow iv read just about every rooting process available on here even tried some no luck could someone give me step by step instructions and what all I need to root or downgrade plz thanks
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I just downgraded from 2.3.4 last night and got root back on my phone. It took a while cause I never used adb before, but the instructions are pretty straight forward so its not extremely difficult. I'll post you the link I used, and if you have any other questions or problems I'll do my best to help. Here you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
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liquidx1 said:
Hello yall im new to the mt4g I came from droid x im pretty good with rooting and flashing that phone but this one wow iv read just about every rooting process available on here even tried some no luck could someone give me step by step instructions and what all I need to root or downgrade plz thanks
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please see the newcomers thread. Link in my signature.

Ok iv done everything it says to do and still nothing I really need some help with this anyone willing to help a htc noob out
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If you're not new to rooting, flashing and such, why wouldn't you post what steps exactly did you do and where the process doesn't go as expected? If you're dealing with Android for more than a couple of days, you probably understand that your posts are absolutely useless by now, having no information whatsoever that would allow helping you.

I know its just hard to explain ill try ok I dl the sdk and did all the updates and dl the adb and installed everything to the root of c: did the step by step process and when I try to push anything to downgrade file path not found or something like that
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When you issue "adb devices" command, do you see your phone?
What is the exact command that fails? Post it here, exactly the way you're writing it.

Yes I see my phone but can't do nothing after that file not found not the right path but I did everything it says too even used adb for dummies lol.... But lets start from the beginning when I DL the sdk file where do I exactly extract it to C: or program I think that's where I maybe messing up at. Root of C drive I click on mycomputer and that where it goes right same thing as adb?
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You need to extract it wherever you want to.
C:\ would be best.
Just open the shell on the right directory when you attempt to use adb commands.
I suggest you to find some video guide on installing ADB and follow it.
And next time, when you're asking for help, please bother to WRITE THE COMMAND YOU'RE RECEIVING THE WRONG REPLY ON, EXACTLY THE WAY YOU'RE TYPING IT. Just as already suggested 2 times above (at least). Thank you.

Heres what I did. Follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912. once you downgrade, follow the guide for downgrading on the CyanogenMod wiki page for the MT4G.

[Q] ROOTING of Vision (Desire Z) 2.3.3 Not Possible

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can figure out, there is no way of rooting the 2.3.3 version of the Desire Z?
All guides start with downgrade to exploidable firmware, and that is not possible without gaining at least temporary root access, and all previous methods are broken?
Anyone has any ideas that work?

MichaelBrandi said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can figure out, there is no way of rooting the 2.3.3 version of the Desire Z?
All guides start with downgrade to exploidable firmware, and that is not possible without gaining at least temporary root access, and all previous methods are broken?
Anyone has any ideas that work?
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Of course it is! Don't you think there would be alot more angry people lol?! You have to obtain temp root on GB then downgrade to Froyo and get S-Off. It's a pain but I just did it on my friend's Evo Shift last month.

Thank you for answering I have spend several hours, and I can't get any of the temporary root solutions to function, they all seem to be ineffective against the current version?

Follow the XDA Vision wiki method. Shouldn't have any problems. I know someone that just did it last week and worked.
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I tried that, and just about any other method available, and non of them seem to be effective.

MichaelBrandi said:
I tried that, and just about any other method available, and non of them seem to be effective.
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Can you go into more details? Like error code or anything? Are you sure you have adb set up properly? plus, drivers too?

If you can't get fre3vo to work (the only step which might not work, every other step is gauranteed to) use a different exploit, either zergRush or tacoroot will work.
-Nipqer

Please post up exactly what steps aren't working. Then we can try and help you
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

Also Desire Z 2.3.3.
Hello guys,
I just wanted to ask, you say it is possible to root the 2.3.3. and you also said how. Actually I spent like 3 hours today by looking for the guides how to root this phone, and I am really scared to do it without previous asking.
all your responses were great, but I am really a newbie to these things, and those names you said (containing techniques how to root) didnt ring a bell in my head. Could you please just send me a link with a guide that will work?

downgrading and rooting
MichaelBrandi said:
I tried that, and just about any other method available, and non of them seem to be effective.
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I rooted and modded two G2 using this method and all went flawless, I read about ADB and how to use it, I read the guide several times to understand what was going to happen.
Read read read and then root and mod. The phones that I rooted were my first and second ever, I am NOT a dev nor am I an expert by any means. My point is that again if you read the entire post before trying anything then you will be successful. My phones were both on 2.3.3 and the process is not an easy one but works well. Hats off to those who took the time and effort to write the guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912 this is the link to the guide.

Thank you for your answer. In any of the threads somebody mentioned the CM´s rooting guide on wiki, I checked it out and I got the idea.
which one would you prefer? the one posted above or the CM´s?

The CM wiki is based off that xda thread.
I would recommend the xda one, as it includes flashgc (for goldcard generation), which the cm wiki doesn't.
-Nipqer
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I have a friend that just bought an HTC Vision(G2) with 2.3.4 and he has been unable to downgrade using xda or wiki. He thinks 2.3.4 is incompatible with these methods. He is familiar with adb and previously owned a Nexus One. Anyone know if his opinion is wrong?

These methods do work.
If for some weird reason fre3vo doesn't feel like working, you can use zergRush or tacoroot to gain temp-root (which I linked in a previous post in this thread)
-Nipqer

Adb can seem scary/difficult to setup to some, but it's not at all. Adb being a tool used in the rooting/unlocking process. See my signature for a link to a guide on setting up adb.
Please stay away from any so-called one-click rooting/unlocking solutions (especially Visionary), because a lot of them don't work, and some carry a high risk of bricking your phone. There is absolutely no risk of bricking your phone if you carefully follow the XDA Wiki guide. Read it first, and feel free to ask questions if you're not sure about something.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

LikeaG2root said:
I have a friend that just bought an HTC Vision(G2) with 2.3.4 and he has been unable to downgrade using xda or wiki. He thinks 2.3.4 is incompatible with these methods. He is familiar with adb and previously owned a Nexus One. Anyone know if his opinion is wrong?
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It can be done and quite easily (took a while but it was very smooth). I did it on my friend's EVO Shift recently with 2.3.4 which is very close to our devices (an uglier cousin one might say lol). Sometimes if you get stuck, it helps to take a break. Also, don't over complicate things. Commands while using adb have to be precise. I suggest using copy and paste. Also double check you commands before hitting enter. I am quite sure 2.3.4 still works with frevo. Maybe his drivers are mixed up. That's usually what it is. Make sure you can get all your functions to work before rooting like usb tethering and whatnot.

[Q]Visionary+ Apk

Hi, I've been trying to fully S-OFF my buddy's new MyTouch 4G Glacier that he ordered online. It has Android 2.3.4 and I was able to unlock bootloader and put clockworkmod touch recovery. But he wants a Rom and custom kernel. Flashing kernels won't work via fastboot or they do, but don't actually apply. I wanted to just fully Perm-S-OFF it with the guide in Dev thread, but the link to Visionary+ apk isn't working. I've searched n searched on XDA and Google. All links I find are either BS malware or 404'd lol. Does anyone have a copy of it I could get? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -Drew
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Google "modaco visionary". If you want I'll PM you a link to their site since I'm not allowed to post it yet (noob rule). I'm sure you'll find it though. Good luck!
[Edit] BTW, your antivirus isn't going to like visionary, but it's a good download. It's the one I used.
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upncoming said:
Google "modaco visionary". If you want I'll PM you a link to their site since I'm not allowed to post it yet (noob rule). I'm sure you'll find it though. Good luck!
[Edit] BTW, your antivirus isn't going to like visionary, but it's a good download. It's the one I used.
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I actually went to his main link on his website/forum. But when you put in captcha, it just goes to broken link on his site. So he either took it down or moved it and hasn't changed link.. so yeh if u got latest r14 of it, I'd appreciate a link in my PM. Thanks for replying too!
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Whoops! That's ok. I've got another link to a different part of the modaco site. I tested and was able to download. I'll PM you in a minute.
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If you are on gingerbread 2.3.4 you will have to downgrade the software before acquiring root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462025
Once you do the downgrade you shouldn't have any problems
Cheers
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romuloxiii said:
If you are on gingerbread 2.3.4 you will have to downgrade the software before acquiring root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462025
Once you do the downgrade you shouldn't have any problems
Cheers
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I've actually already acquired root. Just need perm S-OFF. Guess I tech don't need temp-root with that visionary app, if I already have full root on 2.3.4, is it possible to run that PermS-OFF patch that is in Dev section? Or does it still need to be ran on Froyo ROM? Can flash ROM's
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Sorry, i guess i misunderstood. Im not sure about whether you need to be on Froyo to achieve s-off with visionary. it's worth a shot....cheers
It just occurred to me that i think i used the gfree method when i got s-off on my phone. You may want to consider trying that method if visionary won't work for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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This is how bricks happen!
Ill wait for the I bricked by friends phone thread u will create later on.

Why can't you flash as is? Did you unlock the boot loader via HTC dev unlock? If so, you will need to relock it, then find the guides to downgrade to froyo, and then root from there...

Well my intention is not to give bad advice but rather state what worked for me. If this method can lead to a bricked device then i appologise for the bad info.
Cheers
Sent from my HTC Glacier

Such a lot of mess...
A phone unlocked with HTCDev should receive custom kernels, if it doesn't - it means the kernels aren't being flashed correctly and OP should learn to use fastboot.
A phone unlocked with HTCDev won't get downgraded unless relocked.
Without downgrading there won't be S-OFF of any kind. Neither gfree nor root.sh work on Gingerbread.
Rooting isn't S-OFF.
Putting custom ROM on isn't rooting.
To flash anything from recovery only, without using fastboot, S-OFF is required.

Jack_R1 said:
Such a lot of mess...
A phone unlocked with HTCDev should receive custom kernels, if it doesn't - it means the kernels aren't being flashed correctly and OP should learn to use fastboot.
A phone unlocked with HTCDev won't get downgraded unless relocked.
Without downgrading there won't be S-OFF of any kind. Neither gfree nor root.sh work on Gingerbread.
Rooting isn't S-OFF.
Putting custom ROM on isn't rooting.
To flash anything from recovery only, without using fastboot, S-OFF is required.
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thanks for the summery. very useful.

Jack_R1 said:
Such a lot of mess...
A phone unlocked with HTCDev should receive custom kernels, if it doesn't - it means the kernels aren't being flashed correctly and OP should learn to use fastboot.
A phone unlocked with HTCDev won't get downgraded unless relocked.
Without downgrading there won't be S-OFF of any kind. Neither gfree nor root.sh work on Gingerbread.
Rooting isn't S-OFF.
Putting custom ROM on isn't rooting.
To flash anything from recovery only, without using fastboot, S-OFF is required.
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I have achieved S-OFF a long time back and updated my ROM. I needed to use the terminal emulator the other day in super user mode but was denied SU access. Remembering back I had used visionary to obtain root and thus su access. Visionary no longer runs (it appears to lock up in a black screen) nor am I able su access.
How can one obtain su access after s-off has been achieved and the phone has downloaded an update?
su reports the su binary is out of date.
Thank you.

Update the su
binaries
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russellvone said:
Update the su
binaries
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Been looking for a method to do that for 4 hours. Any ideas where to look?

A thread called "Root for S-OFF users" in Development section would probably be a very good start (and hopefully finish).

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A thread called "Root for S-OFF users" in Development section would probably be a very good start (and hopefully finish).
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It was a start, but not a finish and since it was in the development section, I was not allowed to respond to it.
For completeness after a dozen or so further hours of searching, this tool rooted my S-off phone.
w w w.androidauthority<dot>com/root-any-htc-phone-tablet-117724
(appears I am not allowed to post proper links either.)