Longish term storage - Vibrant General

So I broke down and bought a Galaxy Nexus which just got delivered to my house while I am stuck at work. Sigh.
Anyways, my wife just upgraded to a smart phone (HTC Sensation) and, obviously, I upgraded to a Nexus.
Don't worry, this IS Vibrant related, be patient!
So instead of insurance or whatever, our plan is to keep my perfect-condition (thank you trident case!) Vibrant as a backup for when/if one of us does something stupid and breaks a phone.
So I need to store the vibrant longish term, but be able to use it on short notice. My only real concern is the battery. I know some types of batteries do not handle sitting unused well.
Do I need to do anything special with the battery to make sure it will be useable when I need it? Should I store it fully charged, discharged, in special circumstances, packaging temperature or anything like that?
Thoughts, ideas?

I think I read somewhere that you are supposed to charge them to 40%, because that's what they do at the factory for rechargeable batteries. I can't remember where I read that, though. I would charge it to around 60%, remove the battery, and keep it and the phone in a cool, dry place.

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Batteries, roll 'em around

Just some input about keeping the Vibe lit up and happy. I went with a battery two-pack from ebay, which of course incl the wall charger and other accy's. Mostly good reviews on these kits, which usually run around $32 or so...believe Amazon shows them as well.
I numbered these additional batts 1 and 2 for my reference, and for the most part, I don't concern myself about which of my (now three) batts is in the phone. I've been rotating them around for about 2 months now, only changing them out on the phone (when nesc. to) complete a daily session. Quite honestly, l am getting fully satisfactory performance from each of them.
If I pull a battery from the phone it goes into the wall charger, which noticeably gives a long and deep charge. I keep the charged spares arranged side-by-side on a table with the older charge to the right - both tucked away in the padded bags they came in. For a change-out, grab batt on right and replace it with (newer charge) batt to it's left. It's a simple rotation, and the spent batt goes to wall charger. Once or twice a week I'll run a cell down to zero, and a wall charger might spend 6 or 7 hours on a charge from fully spent. No battery stat wipes or other special tasks applied.
That's a good charge... I've had these 'wall charged' batts sit for a week or so and still show a true 100% after install. Maybe just lucky, but I'm all smiley with the kit, which also includes a car charger.
Not rooted, but for now I'm going with the "after ji6" advice on shutting down any Mediahub (drm,et) services on a fresh boot. Thankfully they usually don't restart too often.
Shrug - it's all good...
I've been doing the same thing with my Cliq since I got it (waiting for Vibrant in the mail ). It's great.
It was actually a huge selling point for me, and one of the various arguments I use to back up my choice of an Android phone over an iPhone, the ability to easily (and quickly) change batteries. I wanted to A) be able to "charge the phone" without ever making it difficult to use (plus I'm extremely forgetful, so I'd rather not have to plug it in every night) and B) be able to carry spares for when I'm away from the house for extended periods (or again, if I forget to charge!)
It's excellent. Totally weird, but really practical. I've already ordered a couple extra batteries and a charger for the vibrant, and I don't even have the phone yet! I just don't know how I would feel going back to plugging the phone in every day.
Batts, rotate 'em around
I agree with "excellent" and disagree with "totally wierd".
My edit, ok?
I enjoyed your reply, as it's all about learning some fun tricks with this phone. Most of what we know comes from someone else
Notes: build quality on these batts is presumably lower than the original, but I don't recall any damages reported as result of their use.
For 32 bucks I have what I need, when I need it..
Pssst ... you're gonna love the Vibrant screen.
Also, I highly rec you order a user rated gelcase thru the usual channels. Hardcases are awesome, if you don't need to access the batt.
The stock Vibrant is a slippery Eel, Imo.
My current is $4.95 (don't quote me) thereabouts thru amazon - that's delivered. Smoke colored gelcase from Hong Kong and it took about 18 days transit. Most importantly, read the user comments before buying. Look for mentions of good fit, et.

Droid 2 Up for

Phone works just fine, but in my haste to flash a rom I didn't check my battery charge and screwed the pooch. So I hacked a USB cord to route power to the phone. In the process of doing so I somehow torched the ability to charge a battery. So I am thinking 50 bucks or something like that.
*sigh* so now I have a droid incredible 2
However, this means that for a small price someone could have this droid 2 to build on and know that it just needs soldered power conduit or if you are really $$ you could figure out how to fix the charging aspect of the phone.
Thoughts comments.
I have been stalking the forums here for quite sometime, make donations and generally keep my mouth shut.
Hello all.
And good night.
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how much are you goin to sell it for and how extensive is the damage
ayerman3 said:
how much are you goin to sell it for and how extensive is the damage
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Honestly the phone is a paper weight really for anyone looking to get practical mobility out of it.
The only way the phone will power on is with the hacked USB cable I have made. Basically overrides battery and powers the phone.
Would be ideal for someone who wants to try and have verizon fix it. Or to build ROMs on.
The phone is in slightly used shape. Screen is protected and flawless. Keyboard is find as well. Small nick on one of the corners. The phone will not recognize any new battery. Phone loads a display of a battery with a ? inside of it. When a battery is inserted.
I am here to solve your problem my brutha Go to radio shack, they have a enercell universal charger for 40 bucks there that will let you charge ANY cell phone battery (did the same thing). Charge your battery and bring it back to the store for a full refund, or keep it like I did as I do stupid things regularly

The end of a G8 101IT

After a few years of good experiences, the last couple of weeks my Archos 10.1IT is having problems. A re-install of everything did not cure. Apparent problem are the device not going to sleep (the screen switches off but the device keeps active), and the USB host port no longer working. Well, sleep and host port works immedeately after a reboot, but stops after having slept once. This happens with stock Android, and with UrukDroid.
Yesterday I switched it on at charge level 80% and within minutes it dropped to 10%. Then the device froze, and I notices that it had become very hot. I could not switch it off (long press of the power switch had no effect) so I put it outside just in case it would catch fire.
That didn't happen. I tried to recharge it but the behaviour didn't change: Immedeately after booting up it starts discharging fast. Peculiar is that although I switched it to ariplane mode, WiFi is still the biggest consumer of energy (36%). Also peculiar is that although the battery feels hot, battery snap reports the temperature at 23.0 (which is the normal temperature during operation).
Something is severely wrong. I think this is the end of this tablet.
Goodbye
After some attempts to get it back to life, deep discharge, recharge and so on, I consider the device dead.
If anyone is interested in the remains (the unit's okay, just the battery is broken) drop me a note.
Goodbye to y'all -- it was fun.
I ordered a Samsung Galaxy Note for replacement.
Never say never...
Just for fun I investigated at the company I bought it, and they informed me that I had a two year warranty (I expected just one year). This means that I still can send it back for repair.
To prepair the device for reparation I wiped it (reset Android and data). To my surprise it is now charging again and seems to function normally (except for the deep sleep and host port). Strange...
FYI: The Samsung Note 10.1 is nice and fast, but very bloated. And you need all kinds of extra connectors and cables to connect it to the charger, USB devices and HDMI.
Finally
Today I went to the shop with the broken Archos. They were very sorry to inform me that they didn't sell Archos anymore, and couldn't repair it. All they could do was give me a refund.
So I received €159,95 refund after 20 months for a device that was €229,00 when I bought it.
Still I think I gonna miss it...
new batteries
sciurius said:
After some attempts to get it back to life, deep discharge, recharge and so on, I consider the device dead.
If anyone is interested in the remains (the unit's okay, just the battery is broken) drop me a note.
Goodbye to y'all -- it was fun.
I ordered a Samsung Galaxy Note for replacement.
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There are 2 batteries inside the Archos 101, and it is very easy to replace. Will you try ?
Those batteries are very simple. You can get it thru the mail order.
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[Q] Phone Won't Charge - Gets Extremely Hot When I Try

So all this happened sometime during the night of 7/1 & morning of 7/2. I noticed when my alarm went off on my phone, my phone was EXTREMELY HOT. Very uncomfortable to the touch. However the battery was at 100%. Not really thinking anything of it, I used it as normal and when bedtime rolled around, I plugged it back in the stock cable & charger. No "beep" indicating it's charging. No change to the battery icon. I started troubleshooting and testing it with different cables/different charger combinations. My phone would not charge at all but everytime I connected a charger to it while it was turned on, it started getting very hot.
I eventually just turned the phone off and attempted to charge it again. When it's off, it won't charge (but won't overheat).
I did notice that when I used another charger (that had an LED indicator of when it was charging), it would completely go off when I plugged my GS4 to it.
I'e never used any other charger with my GS4.
Any ideas WTF is going on?
Faluzure said:
So all this happened sometime during the night of 7/1 & morning of 7/2. I noticed when my alarm went off on my phone, my phone was EXTREMELY HOT. Very uncomfortable to the touch. However the battery was at 100%. Not really thinking anything of it, I used it as normal and when bedtime rolled around, I plugged it back in the stock cable & charger. No "beep" indicating it's charging. No change to the battery icon. I started troubleshooting and testing it with different cables/different charger combinations. My phone would not charge at all but everytime I connected a charger to it while it was turned on, it started getting very hot.
I eventually just turned the phone off and attempted to charge it again. When it's off, it won't charge (but won't overheat).
I did notice that when I used another charger (that had an LED indicator of when it was charging), it would completely go off when I plugged my GS4 to it.
I'e never used any other charger with my GS4.
Any ideas WTF is going on?
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Can you give us any insight on the phone such as any custom flashes or possible root permissions to apps that might affect the battery?
Most likely than not the battery might be fault, I highly doubt it would be anything else unless it's flashes with a certain kernel or rom that might have a bug or two.
L1qu1d said:
Can you give us any insight on the phone such as any custom flashes or possible root permissions to apps that might affect the battery?
Most likely than not the battery might be fault, I highly doubt it would be anything else unless it's flashes with a certain kernel or rom that might have a bug or two.
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Oh. Sorry about that. This phone is as stock as it gets. Nothing custom about it.
I talked to AT&T Chat this morning and they said they think it's the battery. I've never really heard of a battery preventing a charge problem, but that's what they told me it was.
The crappy part is, they are sending me a battery first (and if that doesn't work), they told me to call them back to have the phone replaced. What's worse is if it isn't a battery problem, I'm out a phone for the entire weekend until Monday or Tuesday.
Faluzure said:
Oh. Sorry about that. This phone is as stock as it gets. Nothing custom about it.
I talked to AT&T Chat this morning and they said they think it's the battery. I've never really heard of a battery preventing a charge problem, but that's what they told me it was.
The crappy part is, they are sending me a battery first (and if that doesn't work), they told me to call them back to have the phone replaced. What's worse is if it isn't a battery problem, I'm out a phone for the entire weekend until Monday or Tuesday.
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I think in most cases (i don't know AT&T) they send you a replacement and ask you to ship your phone into the box your new phone came in.
Either way I would think that it is the battery especially with your phone overheating while charging Of courses there are cases where the plug or cord is at fault so you might want to give those options a try as well.
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I think in most cases (i don't know AT&T) they send you a replacement and ask you to ship your phone into the box your new phone came in.
Either way I would think that it is the battery especially with your phone overheating while charging Of courses there are cases where the plug or cord is at fault so you might want to give those options a try as well.
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I might want to try that option (get a new phone) despite them sending me a battery first. I'll call them back.
My phone has about 15% left (I turned it off after I realized I couldn't charge it for troubleshooting purposes). I notice now that the phone gets really warm (around the camera flash) when on. This is without it being plugged in and only turned on.
I've tried 2 other chargers (A Griffin and a Belkin that I use for my other phones for work) and none of them charge my GS4. When I plug it into my Motorola Droid Razr (work phone), it charges that just fine. This is really frustrating. Any other weekend would be fine, but it's the freaking 4th of July weekend and I won't have a phone for the entire holiday.
Thanks man, going to call AT&T to see if I can sweet talk the rep to just send me a new phone. The battery is scheduled to come Friday, so maybe they can ship the phone that quickly.
Faluzure said:
I might want to try that option (get a new phone) despite them sending me a battery first. I'll call them back.
My phone has about 15% left (I turned it off after I realized I couldn't charge it for troubleshooting purposes). I notice now that the phone gets really warm (around the camera flash) when on. This is without it being plugged in and only turned on.
I've tried 2 other chargers (A Griffin and a Belkin that I use for my other phones for work) and none of them charge my GS4. When I plug it into my Motorola Droid Razr (work phone), it charges that just fine. This is really frustrating. Any other weekend would be fine, but it's the freaking 4th of July weekend and I won't have a phone for the entire holiday.
Thanks man, going to call AT&T to see if I can sweet talk the rep to just send me a new phone. The battery is scheduled to come Friday, so maybe they can ship the phone that quickly.
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I'm not the biggest tech guy when it comes to phones but I think around the flash area is where the battery connectors are (where they make contact with the phone), so that might result in it getting warm. Although with you not charging it it can still be the battery being faulty.
I would call them back and try to exchange the full phone just to be on the safe side. I still think it is the battery but if your under warranty why let it go to waste?
This happened to me with an HTC Sensation back in 2011. They sent me another battery and it still did this. This could be a common defect among logic boards. Anyway, I get a warranty replacement right away. In your case, it won't matter what rom your using, it will always do this.
L1qu1d said:
I'm not the biggest tech guy when it comes to phones but I think around the flash area is where the battery connectors are (where they make contact with the phone), so that might result in it getting warm. Although with you not charging it it can still be the battery being faulty.
I would call them back and try to exchange the full phone just to be on the safe side. I still think it is the battery but if your under warranty why let it go to waste?
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MattMJB0188 said:
This happened to me with an HTC Sensation back in 2011. They sent me another battery and it still did this. This could be a common defect among logic boards. Anyway, I get a warranty replacement right away. In your case, it won't matter what rom your using, it will always do this.
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Thanks guys. I did what you said on Wednesday and AT&T is sending me another phone. Should arrive sometime today. My phone's been off for 3 days now. But with about 10% charge left, I'm curious about something.
Do you have suggestions on how I can make a backup/copy my settings from my old phone to the new one? Remember, my port isn't working. So not sure if this is even possible.
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Thanks guys. I did what you said on Wednesday and AT&T is sending me another phone. Should arrive sometime today. My phone's been off for 3 days now. But with about 10% charge left, I'm curious about something.
Do you have suggestions on how I can make a backup/copy my settings from my old phone to the new one? Remember, my port isn't working. So not sure if this is even possible.
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Best bet would prob be to see if you can get an app quick that backs up everything onto the SD card and swap the SD cards when the phone arrives. Or manually back up what you can to SD (pictures, songs etc) using apps like ES manager etc
PLEASE! Im experiencing same issue with my phone, any solution?
I purchased a defective sgh-i747m (Canadian version of the s4) and, when I connect the phone to as charger, the area where the charging cable connects to the motherboard gets extremely hot. When I try to boot the phone with a good battery, the Samsung logo appears, then the phone turns off. Can't seem to get the phone to charge the battery without getting really hot. Only solution I found was changing the motheboard.
i just got this problem today and a bad time because im leaving in a week, but i decide to leave with out a battery for a couple days see if that does anything

Won't turn on, no lights, but warms up when plugged in.

As the title says, Phone won't turn on. There are no led lights at all. It does get warm after being plugged in for a little. I had jrkruse's hybrid_bra1 stock safetynet samsungpay...... rom on it. It was rooted. Very minimal processes running. I actually had basically everything stopped and greenify on. Phone was around 40% battery. I plugged it into charger, took my dog outside, showered real fast, washed a few dishes, then came back in to room within 15 minutes to my phone being dead and hot. It's never got this hot before even while rooted and plugged in with this rom on it. I have never had it get that hot. Was just formatted the day before and really bare but, that is what happened.
A couple battery apps I had put the batteries remaining life capacity at around 60%. It held a charge poorly. Even for 60% capacity it felt weak, considering how little I did on it lately. I am thinking the battery may have took a crap but unsure because it warms up when it is plugged in. I plan on getting a battery soon since they are inexpensive and replace it to try it out.
Just wondering if anyone here has any experience with this and can offer any advice.
Thank you in advance.
(I looked for a min or two for similar posts but didn't find much. Will gladly take down if someone can point me the way)
You say your battery was already outworn, It may have died. I think you should try with a new battery, Or take it to a technician who can test the phone's hardware to see if there is anything else broken
i've only had one similar case with an s3, which would turn of at random % of battery. But when plugged turned on. I replaced the battery and it worked fine then
Maxissc said:
You say your battery was already outworn, It may have died. I think you should try with a new battery, Or take it to a technician who can test the phone's hardware to see if there is anything else broken
i've only had one similar case with an s3, which would turn of at random % of battery. But when plugged turned on. I replaced the battery and it worked fine then
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I really do hope that is what's wrong. I just ordered a battery. Thanks for the reply. I also got some little tools and battery door adhesive sticker. Wish me luck!
funny story....
The mic in my Nubia Red Magic broke and I sent that back to hong kong for repairs like 20 days ago. Before the Red Magic, I used this galaxy s7 edge my friend gave me. I gave it back when I got the Red Magic and told him to sell it or something. Not much later, decided to buy it back off of him for $200 to give to my mother. She loved it. I had the gs7 edge with me exploring prepaid provider options for my mom when the Red Magic mic broke. So then I decided to borrow the edge from her till my phone got back and few days later I break this one too..
I feel naked without a phone for so long haha
Zombiebeaver said:
As the title says, Phone won't turn on. There are no led lights at all. It does get warm after being plugged in for a little. I had jrkruse's hybrid_bra1 stock safetynet samsungpay...... rom on it. It was rooted. Very minimal processes running. I actually had basically everything stopped and greenify on. Phone was around 40% battery. I plugged it into charger, took my dog outside, showered real fast, washed a few dishes, then came back in to room within 15 minutes to my phone being dead and hot. It's never got this hot before even while rooted and plugged in with this rom on it. I have never had it get that hot. Was just formatted the day before and really bare but, that is what happened.
A couple battery apps I had put the batteries remaining life capacity at around 60%. It held a charge poorly. Even for 60% capacity it felt weak, considering how little I did on it lately. I am thinking the battery may have took a crap but unsure because it warms up when it is plugged in. I plan on getting a battery soon since they are inexpensive and replace it to try it out.
Just wondering if anyone here has any experience with this and can offer any advice.
Thank you in advance.
(I looked for a min or two for similar posts but didn't find much. Will gladly take down if someone can point me the way)
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I have the same rom, with charging issues. I don't think its the rom causing it. The s7e are getting old and the batteries are taking a toll with the age. My phone will charge up to 81 at night and stay there. I get better results with wireless charging so i just top my phone off during the day with my wireless charger. There is a code to reset the battery's internal memory, if i find the link on how to do it I will post here for you.
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I have the same rom, with charging issues. I don't think its the rom causing it. The s7e are getting old and the batteries are taking a toll with the age. My phone will charge up to 81 at night and stay there. I get better results with wireless charging so i just top my phone off during the day with my wireless charger. There is a code to reset the battery's internal memory, if i find the link on how to do it I will post here for you.
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Thanks for reply and alright let me know if you find out. My phone had no problem charging to 100% Its just the 100% on the status bar wasnt 100% of the 3600 capacity from wear. My friend's also does the same thing as yours except his he cant charge more than like 24% haha. He just uses it as a plugged in music player in car.... I am getting battery in the mail tomorrow and will see what I can do.
Zombiebeaver said:
Thanks for reply and alright let me know if you find out. My phone had no problem charging to 100% Its just the 100% on the status bar wasnt 100% of the 3600 capacity from wear. My friend's also does the same thing as yours except his he cant charge more than like 24% haha. He just uses it as a plugged in music player in car.... I am getting battery in the mail tomorrow and will see what I can do.
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Try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74268596&postcount=4
I have not done it because it requires draining the battery and I never get around to doing that. Hopefully it will help you out. Good luck!
Fear_The_Fluff said:
Try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74268596&postcount=4
I have not done it because it requires draining the battery and I never get around to doing that. Hopefully it will help you out. Good luck!
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A little late, sorry. lol.
Thanks for suggestion, however, I may have worded my statement incorrectly. I meant to say that My phone would charge to 100% and the status bar displayed it as 100% but, the health and total capacity of the battery in mah was not the maximum 3600 or so due to simple wear and tare. It isn't apparent within any stock android feature however, battery monitoring apps like accubattery gather statistics after several charging sessions and estimate the current mah capacity. Mine was much lower than the default oem stated value of 3600. So my battery could be charged 100% but the 100% is really only 2400 mah lol. It was obvious either way by noticing that after my time using it and the previous owner's bad charging over night habits, that the battery was gradually needing charged more often lol..
I did read about the calibration method before when I was first looking into the battery issues. It seems it is more often done after a new battery is installed.
I screwed up a new battery install at the last second. I had to stop due the tiniest little round metal piece coming off from a very light swipe of my plastic spudger.
It was a very small wire connector piece. Unbelievably irritating. I didn't even finish because I doubt it would work properly. I beleive it is for the rf cable or something not sure. The red one on the left bottom side of the logicboard/motherboard whatever. There are three of them.
I took it apart and put it together a couple times prior to this and in a hurry it popped off and I couldnt find it. I couldnt find out the exact part name online so I could buy one and solder it back on. I did find a site/ supplier that has a plethora of them though. They are tiny coaxial connectors/pins. I didn't look through them all but there are 6,000 some listed under coaxial connectors (RF). https://www.digikey.com/products/en/connectors-interconnects/coaxial-connectors-rf/437?k=coaxial pin
I haven't gotten around to asking samsung or the digikeys support if they could help me find out which it is. They have different sizes and frequency ratings or speeds and such. The phone is packed away until I manage to figure out which pin to buy or if I pull 80$ or so out of my behind and buy a whole new motherboard logic board haha.

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