[Q] Help me in updating android 2.1 "Motorola Defy" - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi guys and thank you for this opportunity​*i am beginner in this stuff, i just want to update my android to higher and i'm confusin how to do it/is it safe/what's the right rom and method/...
*i was in other foroums but i got nothing, some guy told me you have to flash is SBF, and others said don't do it, and some say...i don know...
*i just want people with experience and that why did i get here caz i know this foroum is ALLexpertise.
i have Moto Defy i think it's "green leans" and:
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System version:
Blur_Version.2.51.1.MB525.Orange.en.FR
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Model number:
MB525
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Firmware:
2.1-update1
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Baseband version:
EPU93ST2_U_03.0A.01
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Kernel version:
2.6.29
[email protected] #1
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BPflex version:
USAJRDNEMARAB1B8ORAFR030.0R
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APflex version:
GAS_EMEA_USAJORDANORAFR_P028
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Build number:
JRDNEM_U3_2.51.1
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1- do i need to flash my phone "SBF or some like that"
2- what's the easy way to update my Android
THANK YU AGAIN​

I think in the first case.. you need root you android..
did u make it?

Its easy
mobilegeeky.c om /install-android-2-3-4-gingerbread-cyanogenmod-7-motorola-defy/
Helped me... All the best
remove the spaces

yes
ffbdm said:
I think in the first case.. you need root you android..
did u make it?
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yes
and...

hi
ffbdm said:
I think in the first case.. you need root you android..
did u make it?
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Suji8t said:
mobilegeeky.c om /install-android-2-3-4-gingerbread-cyanogenmod-7-motorola-defy/
Helped me... All the best
remove the spaces
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hi thank you
-did you try that and how was it
-do i need to flash my defy

Ok, first update to froyo (that's the 2.2 firmware). We are not going to flash a higher firmware directly (sbf) because otherwise you can't downgrade anymore if you need to claim warranty.
Go to setting > about > someting with version and look for check for update. If it didn't work/can't find it, no prob. Just download this sbf.
Read Here how to. Read it trough (also if you did manage to get service update).
Then root it (google super one click root).
Install 2nd init (google 2nt init defy xda).
Chose a rom (best options would be: CM7 => latest nightly from here or WIUI or picatchu something ....)
Most(exept Walters/Defy+ rom's) times the the update procedure is like stated in the guide in the OP of This. Just replace WIUI zip with the chosen rom.

thank you labsin
thanks a lot.
i did:
Setting>About phone>System update>check for system updates.
but the phone says:
Your device is up to date! No update necessary.
*is that means i don't need to update to froyo (that's the 2.2 firmware)?.
*and if i should to update to froyo2.2, Will i face some network problems because i'm living in Algeria?
thank you again!

No you won't have any network problems.
First download this sbf. It's an European deblured(so you don't have to register with motorola after you installed it as you're not going to stay there long).
How to flash sbf-file
- Download and install Motorola Defy driver
- Download and install RSD Lite
- Open RSD Lite
- Enter Bootloader Mode on you phone (Power+VolUp when phone is off)
- Connect phone to you PC (USB)
- Open RSD - Lite
- Flash new SBF (browse => earlier downloaded sbf)
Now your on froyo. You shouldn't have network issues here but it doesn't matter.
-Root the phone (super one click root)
-For CM7: Download latest nightly, kernel zip, Gapps (google market...) and put them on your sd-card (remember where)
1. Download 2ndinit 1.4.2
2. install 2ndinit (Important!:following the instructions)
3. Boot into bootmenu by pressing volume down when device flashes a blue led at bootup. Set default boot mode to 2nd init. (vol up/down and power for navigating)
4. Select Recovery/Stable Recovery. Choose "Wipe Data/Cache" option. Let finish.
5. Choose Install zip from SD Card, select CM7..... .zip and let it finish.
(for CM7: Do 6 again with the gapps zip and the CM7kernel.zip)
6. select "Wipe Cache" then go to Advanced and select "Wipe Dalvik Cache". Reboot Now!
7. After boot, set your prefered language in Settings menu

thank you
hi, thank you for all this help
-but after the SBF flash i don't have a network

Hi,
I am on IceCream - So not sure if its the same..
try settings->advanced->baseband switcher if you have it.

thanks
hi, thank you.
-but there isn't Algeria in "baseband switcher"

Lightis said:
Hi,
I am on IceCream - So not sure if its the same..
try settings->advanced->baseband switcher if you have it.
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hi, and thank you but in "baseband switcher" there is no thing called Algeria
so what do you think

labsin said:
No you won't have any network problems.
First download this sbf. It's an European deblured(so you don't have to register with motorola after you installed it as you're not going to stay there long).
How to flash sbf-file
- Download and install Motorola Defy driver
- Download and install RSD Lite
- Open RSD Lite
- Enter Bootloader Mode on you phone (Power+VolUp when phone is off)
- Connect phone to you PC (USB)
- Open RSD - Lite
- Flash new SBF (browse => earlier downloaded sbf)
Now your on froyo. You shouldn't have network issues here but it doesn't matter.
-Root the phone (super one click root)
-For CM7: Download latest nightly, kernel zip, Gapps (google market...) and put them on your sd-card (remember where)
1. Download 2ndinit 1.4.2
2. install 2ndinit (Important!:following the instructions)
3. Boot into bootmenu by pressing volume down when device flashes a blue led at bootup. Set default boot mode to 2nd init. (vol up/down and power for navigating)
4. Select Recovery/Stable Recovery. Choose "Wipe Data/Cache" option. Let finish.
5. Choose Install zip from SD Card, select CM7..... .zip and let it finish.
(for CM7: Do 6 again with the gapps zip and the CM7kernel.zip)
6. select "Wipe Cache" then go to Advanced and select "Wipe Dalvik Cache". Reboot Now!
7. After boot, set your prefered language in Settings menu
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thank you a lot, your help was great.
-should i have network problem on froyo that's you got me, or it's another thing
thanks again Mr. labsin

labsin said:
No you won't have any network problems.
First download this sbf. It's an European deblured(so you don't have to register with motorola after you installed it as you're not going to stay there long).
How to flash sbf-file
- Download and install Motorola Defy driver
- Download and install RSD Lite
- Open RSD Lite
- Enter Bootloader Mode on you phone (Power+VolUp when phone is off)
- Connect phone to you PC (USB)
- Open RSD - Lite
- Flash new SBF (browse => earlier downloaded sbf)
Now your on froyo. You shouldn't have network issues here but it doesn't matter.
-Root the phone (super one click root)
-For CM7: Download latest nightly, kernel zip, Gapps (google market...) and put them on your sd-card (remember where)
1. Download 2ndinit 1.4.2
2. install 2ndinit (Important!:following the instructions)
3. Boot into bootmenu by pressing volume down when device flashes a blue led at bootup. Set default boot mode to 2nd init. (vol up/down and power for navigating)
4. Select Recovery/Stable Recovery. Choose "Wipe Data/Cache" option. Let finish.
5. Choose Install zip from SD Card, select CM7..... .zip and let it finish.
(for CM7: Do 6 again with the gapps zip and the CM7kernel.zip)
6. select "Wipe Cache" then go to Advanced and select "Wipe Dalvik Cache". Reboot Now!
7. After boot, set your prefered language in Settings menu
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thank you
but what did you mean "It's an European deblured(so you don't have to register with motorola after you installed it as you're not going to stay there long).
"
-i think i going to stay in SBF flash "do you have stable one /eg.gingerbread "

labsin said:
No you won't have any network problems.
First download this sbf. It's an European deblured(so you don't have to register with motorola after you installed it as you're not going to stay there long).
How to flash sbf-file
- Download and install Motorola Defy driver
- Download and install RSD Lite
- Open RSD Lite
- Enter Bootloader Mode on you phone (Power+VolUp when phone is off)
- Connect phone to you PC (USB)
- Open RSD - Lite
- Flash new SBF (browse => earlier downloaded sbf)
Now your on froyo. You shouldn't have network issues here but it doesn't matter.
-Root the phone (super one click root)
-For CM7: Download latest nightly, kernel zip, Gapps (google market...) and put them on your sd-card (remember where)
1. Download 2ndinit 1.4.2
2. install 2ndinit (Important!:following the instructions)
3. Boot into bootmenu by pressing volume down when device flashes a blue led at bootup. Set default boot mode to 2nd init. (vol up/down and power for navigating)
4. Select Recovery/Stable Recovery. Choose "Wipe Data/Cache" option. Let finish.
5. Choose Install zip from SD Card, select CM7..... .zip and let it finish.
(for CM7: Do 6 again with the gapps zip and the CM7kernel.zip)
6. select "Wipe Cache" then go to Advanced and select "Wipe Dalvik Cache". Reboot Now!
7. After boot, set your prefered language in Settings menu
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thank you it's my honer to get help from you
*-i just want to tell you that i'am on android 2.2.2, can i go on?

thanks guys for every things now:
- Motorola defy
- CM7 "latest nightly" (04/03/2012) firmware 2.3.7
<works 100% no bugs for me>

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[Q] [q] motorola defy plus 2.3.6

is there any custom ROM stable and 100% working, without any issues and please mention apps,steps,cautions step wise so that others could follow, read a lot of posts but all left me with doubts in the end, am fairly new to android so forgive me if this post is not worth. want to run stock sbf with custom rom possible i guess, ( installed 2ndinit for defy and my cam stopped showing preview posted as my first question. although uninstalled it and cam working now please help devz... i hope u will for sure. thx in advance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140839
works on my 2.3. 6 defy+
I am currently using the latest CM7.2-Nightly for Defy+ with the camera and battery fix attached in that post. It is very, very stable and with the fix, the battery charges up to 100%.
Installation:
!!!Read all steps before you do them!!!
1. Copy the three files linked above and the CM7-Google-Apps to your SD-Card.
2. Root your defy. I used this method.
3. Install 2nd-init recovery:
3.1 Download the app SndInitDefy from here
3.2 Install and start the app. Press on "Install 2nd-init Recovery".
3.3 Choose "Latest Recovery"
3.4 Allow the superuser-request
4. If the LED is green now, you can reboot your Defy. Press Vol-Down when you see the blue LED
5. Now you should get into the bootmenu. You can navigate with the volume keys there. Choose "Recovery" and press the power button to select.
6. Now choose "Custom Recovery"
7. Choose "install zip from sdcard" and install the downloaded zips:
7.1 Install cm72-120127.0846-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip
7.2 Install gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
7.3 Install the fixes (the two other zips)
8. Now you have to do a factory reset. After that all your apps and settings will be deleted. If you want to keep them, you must backup the apps/settings first. You could do that with the app TitaniumBackup.
9. Choose "wipe data/factory reset" to do this factory reset.
10. Reboot the defy now. If you stil see the boot animation after five minutes, reboot the defy (I think you must remove the battery and put them into the phone again).
Now you should have a defy with CyanogenMod 7!
possible, in posibble?
188 2.3.6 motorola defy+ their full SBF will not work the root of the superoneclickk 2.3.3 not possible
WARNING!!!
The below guide is useless! It instructs you to download 2ndinit 2.0 which DOES NOT BOOT on Defy+ I have thus far killed 2 phones using it!!! Only use 1.4.2 no later. Thanks! =)
Mister Ypsilon said:
I am currently using the latest CM7.2-Nightly for Defy+ with the camera and battery fix attached in that post. It is very, very stable and with the fix, the battery charges up to 100%.
Installation:
!!!Read all steps before you do them!!!
1. Copy the three files linked above and the CM7-Google-Apps to your SD-Card.
2. Root your defy. I used this method.
3. Install 2nd-init recovery:
3.1 Download the app SndInitDefy from here
3.2 Install and start the app. Press on "Install 2nd-init Recovery".
3.3 Choose "Latest Recovery"
3.4 Allow the superuser-request
4. If the LED is green now, you can reboot your Defy. Press Vol-Down when you see the blue LED
5. Now you should get into the bootmenu. You can navigate with the volume keys there. Choose "Recovery" and press the power button to select.
6. Now choose "Custom Recovery"
7. Choose "install zip from sdcard" and install the downloaded zips:
7.1 Install cm72-120127.0846-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip
7.2 Install gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
7.3 Install the fixes (the two other zips)
8. Now you have to do a factory reset. After that all your apps and settings will be deleted. If you want to keep them, you must backup the apps/settings first. You could do that with the app TitaniumBackup.
9. Choose "wipe data/factory reset" to do this factory reset.
10. Reboot the defy now. If you stil see the boot animation after five minutes, reboot the defy (I think you must remove the battery and put them into the phone again).
Now you should have a defy with CyanogenMod 7!
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fr0dzy said:
WARNING!!!
The below guide is useless! It instructs you to download 2ndinit 2.0 which DOES NOT BOOT on Defy+ I have thus far killed 2 phones using it!!! Only use 1.4.2 no later. Thanks! =)
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dude u have done something very wrong.i have installed the recovery like 5-6 times over and over and it worked on every occasion.even after flashing full SBF twice on my defy+.and it was 2nd init 2.0 with a 1.0. 7 bootmenu
fr0dzy said:
WARNING!!!
The below guide is useless! It instructs you to download 2ndinit 2.0 which DOES NOT BOOT on Defy+ I have thus far killed 2 phones using it!!! Only use 1.4.2 no later. Thanks! =)
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That's strange...
For me it works well, i installed CWM sucessfully on both 2.3.4 and 2.3.6 devices. I was using the original firmware (from factory) for the 2.3.4 device and at the second device i flashed a 2.3.6 DFP-139 sbf form droid-developers.org. After installing the latest recovery and removing the "2nd-init Defy" app, I rebooted the phones and everything worked fine.
When you start the phone, do you see the blue led then? If not, you don't have installed 2nd-init correctly. If yes, try to 'wipe data/factory reset' the phone (you should have a backup, this erases all your user data which is not stored on the sd card and all your apps). If the phone is still not booting, you/the 2nd-init installer have/has made a wrong change to the system partition.
Then you should try to flash a new 2.3.4 SBF (look here and also here) and try it one more time.
Mister Ypsilon said:
I am currently using the latest CM7.2-Nightly for Defy+ with the camera and battery fix attached in that post. It is very, very stable and with the fix, the battery charges up to 100%.
Installation:
!!!Read all steps before you do them!!!
1. Copy the three files linked above and the CM7-Google-Apps to your SD-Card.
2. Root your defy. I used this method.
3. Install 2nd-init recovery:
3.1 Download the app SndInitDefy from here
3.2 Install and start the app. Press on "Install 2nd-init Recovery".
3.3 Choose "Latest Recovery"
3.4 Allow the superuser-request
4. If the LED is green now, you can reboot your Defy. Press Vol-Down when you see the blue LED
5. Now you should get into the bootmenu. You can navigate with the volume keys there. Choose "Recovery" and press the power button to select.
6. Now choose "Custom Recovery"
7. Choose "install zip from sdcard" and install the downloaded zips:
7.1 Install cm72-120127.0846-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip
7.2 Install gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
7.3 Install the fixes (the two other zips)
8. Now you have to do a factory reset. After that all your apps and settings will be deleted. If you want to keep them, you must backup the apps/settings first. You could do that with the app TitaniumBackup.
9. Choose "wipe data/factory reset" to do this factory reset.
10. Reboot the defy now. If you stil see the boot animation after five minutes, reboot the defy (I think you must remove the battery and put them into the phone again).
Now you should have a defy with CyanogenMod 7!
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thank you very much mister ypsilon...
your method works perfectly...camera works...though i cant find out how to check if its charging full, (it shows upto 100%, is that all i need ?)
i have some minor problems though:
1)sometimes when i go out of coverage area and come back, the phone doesn't regain the signal
2)there is no 720p recording...had that in the stock ROM...
i want to try 7.2 cm7 for defy+ but on dual boot, did any one tried ??? plz procedure guyz.
dual boot
veeranna said:
i want to try 7.2 cm7 for defy+ but on dual boot, did any one tried ??? plz procedure guyz.
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afaik you absolutely have to dual boot a defy/defy+...because of the locked bootloader you cant remove the stock rom...
follow the above instructions carefully and you will have a cm7.2...then you can dual boot by selecting the preferred entry from the menu....
steadywarp said:
188 2.3.6 motorola defy+ their full SBF will not work the root of the superoneclickk 2.3.3 not possible
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Bro even I have done this n times! In fact I had stock 2.3.4 which I upgraded to 2.3.6 by a full SBF flash and since then I have rooted using superoneclick and installed recovery many times and it works perfectly! The only issue however is that there are less frequent releases for 2.3.6 as compared to the Froyo kernel!
Mister Ypsilon said:
I am currently using the latest CM7.2-Nightly for Defy+ with the camera and battery fix attached in that post. It is very, very stable and with the fix, the battery charges up to 100%.
Installation:
!!!Read all steps before you do them!!!
1. Copy the three files linked above and the CM7-Google-Apps to your SD-Card.
2. Root your defy. I used this method.
3. Install 2nd-init recovery:
3.1 Download the app SndInitDefy from here
3.2 Install and start the app. Press on "Install 2nd-init Recovery".
3.3 Choose "Latest Recovery"
3.4 Allow the superuser-request
4. If the LED is green now, you can reboot your Defy. Press Vol-Down when you see the blue LED
5. Now you should get into the bootmenu. You can navigate with the volume keys there. Choose "Recovery" and press the power button to select.
6. Now choose "Custom Recovery"
7. Choose "install zip from sdcard" and install the downloaded zips:
7.1 Install cm72-120127.0846-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip
7.2 Install gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
7.3 Install the fixes (the two other zips)
8. Now you have to do a factory reset. After that all your apps and settings will be deleted. If you want to keep them, you must backup the apps/settings first. You could do that with the app TitaniumBackup.
9. Choose "wipe data/factory reset" to do this factory reset.
10. Reboot the defy now. If you stil see the boot animation after five minutes, reboot the defy (I think you must remove the battery and put them into the phone again).
Now you should have a defy with CyanogenMod 7!
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Thanks for very useful and very clear and easy steps Now i have CM on defy plus
(i have clicked thanks too)
Try this. It worked for me
veeranna said:
i want to try 7.2 cm7 for defy+ but on dual boot, did any one tried ??? plz procedure guyz.
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Search google for the following string. "MB526 custom rom".
It should be in the first few links by soulness
1. Ijust bought a defy +....it has version dfp_1321.....do I need to flash any other sbf before ics????? It is presently 2.3.6 stock at present.....rooting n all not a problem.....just wanted to know if any other specific sbf or nandroid backup would be necessary.......
2. In the thrrad fr dis sbf Walter said cm7 and miui are unavailable....wt happens if u flash them??????
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bharaththeunique said:
1. Ijust bought a defy +....it has version dfp_1321.....do I need to flash any other sbf before ics????? It is presently 2.3.6 stock at present.....rooting n all not a problem.....just wanted to know if any other specific sbf or nandroid backup would be necessary.......
2. In the thrrad fr dis sbf Walter said cm7 and miui are unavailable....wt happens if u flash them??????
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Hi,
Good to know new Defy+ are coming in India with latest updates! I too have the very same SBF in my phone. As you said rooting and all not a problem. No need to flash any specific SBF as such. A nandroid backup is recommended in case you want to come back to where you left before flashing! And if you want back warranty just flash the SBF with RSD lite(Walter's thread has the SBF and even I can give you the link if you want.).
For your second answer:
This SBF has BL6. So you cannot go back to any ROM or sbf which has a previous version. Thus, walter said about unability to flash MIUI or CM7. However, you can flash CM7.2 for Defy+ or CM9 for Defy+(By quarx). Just flash the CM. No need to flash any kernel. It worked fine for me. You can even try dual boot and that too works great.
Happy flashing!
thnx a tonne....I was wanting cm7 fr its completeness....n cm9 fr awesomeness.....thnx again....
Also....can u give a link to the best cm7.2 build fr us....?
Sent from my MB526 using XDA
pranks1989 said:
steadywarp said:
188 2.3.6 motorola defy+ their full SBF will not work the root of the superoneclickk 2.3.3 not possible
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Bro even I have done this n times! In fact I had stock 2.3.4 which I upgraded to 2.3.6 by a full SBF flash and since then I have rooted using superoneclick and installed recovery many times and it works perfectly!
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Bro, dont speak from ignorance, especially when it can lead to others ending up in a bad place. The latest versions of 2.3.6 eg 4.5.1-134-DFP-188 can not be rooted by any currently known exploit, so you have to be careful when choosing an sbf to flash. See here for which versions can and can't be rooted.
There's even a whole thread all of its own where people are trying to root the latest 2.3.6 releases, here.
ejstubbs said:
Bro, dont speak from ignorance, especially when it can lead to others ending up in a bad place. The latest versions of 2.3.6 eg 4.5.1-134-DFP-188 can not be rooted by any currently known exploit, so you have to be careful when choosing an sbf to flash. See here for which versions can and can't be rooted.
There's even a whole thread all of its own where people are trying to root the latest 2.3.6 releases, here.
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Yep, I realised it later and saw the whole discussion about 188 version SBFs with BL7! Sorry, if that was offending!!
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bharaththeunique said:
thnx a tonne....I was wanting cm7 fr its completeness....n cm9 fr awesomeness.....thnx again....
Also....can u give a link to the best cm7.2 build fr us....?
Sent from my MB526 using XDA
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http://quarx2k.ru/cm7-nightly-defy+/ That is CM7 nightlies for Defy+ by Quarx!!
Followed the steps listed by Mister Ypsilon, on to my new Defy+ which used to run Motorola Stock with Motoblur. So far looks good. I will post further regarding the battery.
The only glitch that I faced after installing the ROM is that it always froze at the Boot Animation. I had to pull the battery almost 5-6 times and then magically it started to work. Boots within 10 second from the Motorola Logo.
Not sure if the battery pulls were because of something that I did wrong.
Thank you Mister Ypsilon.
Andy
veeranna said:
i want to try 7.2 cm7 for defy+ but on dual boot, did any one tried ??? plz procedure guyz.
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Search for Multuboot v0.8, its a flashable ziped file, through which you can dual boot, i have tried and it works perfect !! :laugh:
You will need 3 img files also ,so that your 2nd rom can be installed is sd card with atleast 900 MB of space ..
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rebeleagle said:
thank you very much mister ypsilon...
your method works perfectly...camera works...though i cant find out how to check if its charging full, (it shows upto 100%, is that all i need ?)
i have some minor problems though:
1)sometimes when i go out of coverage area and come back, the phone doesn't regain the signal
2)there is no 720p recording...had that in the stock ROM...
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Use baseband switcher app to choose appropriate baseband according to your location, it may help in signal problem..

[HOW TO] Install CM9/CM10 on GB 2.3.6 LATAM (R01 and R02 firmwares)

DISCLAIMER!!!
THIS TUTORIAL IS INTENDED FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FLASHED THE LATAM GINGERBREAD 2.3.6 VERSION WHICH ARE R01 AND R02, SUCH AS RETAIL LATAM, PERSONAL, CLARO, MOVISTAR AND VIVO
If you come from a different firmware this tutorial may not be entirely useful because the root method may vary and if you come from froyo you may need to use CH version for CM9, and flash a GB kernel for CM10... but that's not the point of this thread, go to the ROM's thread and READ the OP before asking dumb questions!
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ROOT your phone (Check nicofff's method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1750277)
Download and install Droid2Bootstrap (see attachments or http://www.mediafire.com/?rbie0acs53rdfwc)
Download bootmenu1.1.0 and put it on your SD Card (see attachments or http://www.mediafire.com/?lh61gvslph4x4sv)
For CM9 download latest European GB Kernel version this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623385 and latest ICS gapps from http://goo.im/gapps/ and put both zips on your SD Card
For CM10 download latest version from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827801 and latest JB gapps from http://goo.im/gapps/ and put both zips on your SD Card
Open Droid2Bootstrap and grant it root permission
Hit "Bootstrap Recovery" You'll see a pop-up telling you "SUCCESS!"
Hit "Reboot Recovery" and your phone will reboot and enter on custom recovery
Select "Install zip from sd card" and then choose the bootmenu1.1.0.zip (use slider keyboard arrow keys to move, and "OK" button to select)
Reboot
When booting, the led will turn blue, press both volume buttons to enter bootmenu
In the bootmenu, go to "Recovery" > "Custom Recovery" (use volume buttons to move, power button to select)
In the custom recovery, select "Wipe data/factory reset" and "Wipe cache partition"
Go to "Advanced"
Select "Wipe Dalvik Cache" and "Wipe Battery Stats"
Go back and select "Install zip from sd card" and then choose the CyanogenMod zip file (CM9 or CM10)
Do the same for gapps: Choose gapps-ics-xxxxx.zip for CM9 and gapps-jb-xxxxx.zip for CM10
Reboot
Be happy
You should be booting into CyanogenMod now!
If your signal is not working try installing the MS2Toolbox (see attachments or http://www.mediafire.com/?k3h8vpcj6b2it0e) and then go to Baseband Switcher and choose your right band and then reboot, you might need to try more than once, but this tool will get your signal up
ALL CREDITS TO nicofff FOR THE ROOT METHOD, TO sfc3001 FOR THE CM9 ROM, AND TO tezet FOR THE CM10 ROM
Caesarivs said:
Well, now that it's possible to root this firmwares (check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1750277) it's possible to try some custom roms on our MS2, in this particular case I'll make a little guide on how to install sfc3001's CM9:
ROOT your phone (Check nicofff's method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1750277)
Download and install Droid2Bootstrap (see attachments or http://www.mediafire.com/?rbie0acs53rdfwc)
Download bootmenu1.1.0 and put it on your SD Card (see attachments or http://www.mediafire.com/?lh61gvslph4x4sv)
Download CM9 and put it on your SD Card (download the latest version from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623385)
Download Google Apps and put them on your SD Card (download the latest version from http://goo.im/gapps/)
Open Droid2Bootstrap and grant it root permission
Hit "Bootstrap Recovery" You'll see a pop-up telling you "SUCCESS!"
Hit "Reboot Recovery" and your phone will reboot and enter on custom recovery
Select "Install zip from sd card" and then choose the bootmenu1.1.0.zip (use slider keyboard arrow keys to move, and "OK" button to select)
Reboot
When booting, the led will turn blue, press both volume buttons to enter bootmenu
In the bootmenu, go to "Recovery" > "Custom Recovery" (use volume buttons to move, power button to select)
In the custom recovery, select "Install zip from sd card" and then choose the CM9 zip file
Do the same for gapps: "Install zip from sd card" > gapps.zip
Select "Wipe data/factory reset" and "Wipe cache partition"
Go to "Advanced"
Select "Wipe Dalvik Cache" and "Wipe Battery Stats"
Go back and reboot
You should be booting into ICS now!
If your signal is not working try installing the MS2Toolbox (see attachments or http://www.mediafire.com/?k3h8vpcj6b2it0e) and then go to Baseband Switcher and choose your right band and then reboot, you might need to try more than once, but this tool will get your signal up
ALL CREDITS TO nicofff FOR THE ROOT METHOD AND TO sfc3001 FOR THE CM9 ROM
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:good::good: good, and now, i am on cm9:good::good:
THANKS! It was really helpful as I find it a bit difficult to install a custom ROM after getting root following nicofff procedure. Don't know why, but installing a zip the usual way didn't work. Then I followed your instructions and it worked like a charm.
Thanks that was almost too easy
I was already rooted before but did not dare the Cyanomod mainly to their alpha (still?) status, but when I heard about the feature that volume rocking allows skipping to the next song, I knew that I was doomed !
EDIT: BTW found it very stable after 1 day of extensive trial. I am really impressed !
Love this :good::good::good:
Hi,
first of all, thanks for this howto!
I am however getting problems. Coming from Brazilian VIVO 2.3.6. I succesfully completed all steps, until I get to rebooting after installing the bootmenu file. When I do a normal reboot, my phone's just rebooting into VIVO. When I choose to reboot recovery then I get an triangle image. When I push both volume rockers, I'm getting in another recovery menu. When I apply CM9 update, it will not verify.. That is where I'm stuck. Am I doing something wrong here?
SOLVED:
When you've installed bootmenu 1.1.0, it is possible that it does not load the first reboot. Just let it reboot normally, than reboot again! Now it worked!
thanks!
This is great! :good:
Few days ago I was looking for something like this but just can't find.
I experimented myself and got CM9 working on my phone.
(Took quite a lot of time waiting booting)
Thank god i did not brick my phone.
This will be great helpful to those who would like to try CM9.
Quick question - does this work with UK stock kernel?
Or does this require a specific kernel.
(How do I check?)
regiment said:
Quick question - does this work with UK stock kernel?
Or does this require a specific kernel.
(How do I check?)
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This works for european GB kernels, and specifically for latinamerican R01 and R02 GBkernels (which are based on the european GB kernel)
When you go to settings -> About phone, what does it say in Android Version?
Nice Tutorial
Nice Tutorial! Really easy to follow.
:good: Great posts, thanks to you and the makers of "PreInstalameEsta" I've my phone working with this rom , for new updates of the rom do you know if it's necessary to wipe dalvik and cache or factory reset, I just don't want to sync all my accounts again ..
Thanks.
kainlite said:
:good: Great posts, thanks to you and the makers of "PreInstalameEsta" I've my phone working with this rom , for new updates of the rom do you know if it's necessary to wipe dalvik and cache or factory reset, I just don't want to sync all my accounts again ..
Thanks.
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To update CMx roms from another version of the same branch (ie : a 7 to a 7, a 9 to a 9 and so on) you only need to :
- wipe cache partition
- wipe dalvik cache
- wipe battery stats (optional, it's just to get more accurate battery duration)
Ashareth said:
To update CMx roms from another version of the same branch (ie : a 7 to a 7, a 9 to a 9 and so on) you only need to :
- wipe cache partition
- wipe dalvik cache
- wipe battery stats (optional, it's just to get more accurate battery duration)
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K, great, thanks
it works! thx a lot !
wait.....where is market ??
EDIT 3: done, i have just reflashed the file (gapp ) in recovery mode
hi all....new problems here
when i open play store it says me: server error
i avoided the problem flashing the gapp file from april instead the last one, now i would ask...what is the differences between the two files ? have i less features or a less fluidity ?
i have another question: where is swype keyboard ? i cant find it in settings !
sminatore said:
hi all....new problems here
when i open play store it says me: server error
i avoided the problem flashing the gapp file from april instead the last one, now i would ask...what is the differences between the two files ? have i less features or a less fluidity ?
i have another question: where is swype keyboard ? i cant find it in settings !
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I haven't had any problems with latest ICS gapps, are you sure you flashed ICS gapps? Anyway you should always do at least wipe cache and dalvik cache, it's best if you do full wipes AFTER flashing gapps
Swype keyboard is not included in CM9... you can get it from beta.swype.com
Caesarivs said:
I haven't had any problems with latest ICS gapps, are you sure you flashed ICS gapps? Anyway you should always do at least wipe cache and dalvik cache, it's best if you do full wipes AFTER flashing gapps
Swype keyboard is not included in CM9... you can get it from beta.swype.com
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yes yes im sure ....
ok thx for infos :good:
Caesarivs said:
This works for european GB kernels, and specifically for latinamerican R01 and R02 GBkernels (which are based on the european GB kernel)
When you go to settings -> About phone, what does it say in Android Version?
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I am currently running Tezet's CM7 ROM 120221-1901-NIGHTLY (Android 2.3.7).
Still not sure what kernel is running!
regiment said:
I am currently running Tezet's CM7 ROM 120221-1901-NIGHTLY (Android 2.3.7).
Still not sure what kernel is running!
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You must be on Froyo... because tezet's CM7 doesn't work on gingerbread, so if you want to try CM9 you must use Chinese version
In this case, can I follow the 1st post tuto ?
Caesarivs said:
You must be on Froyo... because tezet's CM7 doesn't work on gingerbread, so if you want to try CM9 you must use Chinese version
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Sent from my MotoA953 using xda premium

[GUIDE] How to root and update your Galaxy S to Jelly Bean

This guide shows you how to root and install a ROM.
I am NOT responsible for bricked devices or dead sd cards etc.
Hi,
Today i'm going to show you how to root and update your Galaxy S.
In this guide we flash custom kernel and rom.
But first, remember the drivers http://www.filefactory.com/file/3nhyqmo40111/n/SAMSUNG_USB_Driver_for_Mobile_Phones.zip
Now the rooting part.
1.Download Semaphore kernel http://semaphore.gr/downloads Choose the first one. (Semaphore_2.7.4.tar)
2. It may look like a zip file but it is not. So do not extract the tar file.
3. Open Odin (if you don't have it download it from http://ul.to/o2xcp01n )
4. Switch off the phone and wait for vibration. When it vibrates it is completely off
5. Make sure you have drivers.
6. Put your phone to download download mode. To do that press vol down + home + power.
7. Now your phone should be in download mode. Plug it to computer (make sure odin is still open)
8. Click PDA tab and choose Semaphore_2.7.4.tar.
9. Click start
10. Wait
11. Wait more and then there should read Success! in odin
12. Now you can disconnect the phone.
13. Finish!
Now we are ready to install a custom ROM!
First you need to download a ROM. I recommend Cyanogenmod because it is popular, it has many features and it is stable. Here's the link http://download.cyanogenmod.org/get/jenkins/49867/cm-10.2.0-galaxysmtd.zip
1. Download the ROM.
2. Put it to your phone's internal sd-card
3. Download gapps http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20130813-signed.zip
4. Put it to your phone's sd-card
5. Reboot to recovery (vol up + home + power)
6. Wipe data/factory reset
7. Wipe cache
8. Advanced > wipe dalvik cache
9. Install zip from sd-card
10. Choose zip from sd-card
11. Select cm-10.2.0-galaxysmtd.zip
12. Confirm
13. Wait
14. Wait more
15. Wait even more
16. Go back
17. Don't reboot
18. Install zip from sd-card
19. Choose zip from sd-card
20. Choose gapps-jb-20130813-signed.zip
21. Confirm
22. Wait
23. Reboot
Now it's ready! You made it! You rooted and updated your phone. Be proud!
This is not correct guide.
Why?
monkeywithbanana said:
This guide shows you how to root and install a ROM.
I am NOT responsible for bricked devices or dead sd cards etc.
Hi,
Today i'm going to show you how to root and update your Galaxy S.
In this guide we flash custom kernel and rom.
First you need to be sure that you have 2.3.6 XXJW4.
You can check it by going to settings > about phone > and there's baseband version.
If you have JW4 you can skip to rooting part.
If you don't have JW4, you need to flash it.
Installing JW4
1. You need the drivers. For 32 bit(x86) Windows http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/MOBILES/Samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-S-USB-Driver-for-Windows-x86.shtml and for 64 bit(x64) Windows
http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/MOBILES/Samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-S-USB-Driver-for-Windows-x64.shtml
2.Download the firmware http://www.hotfile.com/dl/150483619/708026d/I9000XXJW4_I9000OXAJW4_XEU.zip.html
3. Then you need extract the downloaded file I9000XXJW4_I9000OXAJW4_XEU.zip (from step 2) to any folder, you will get these 2 files:
JW4_JW4_JW4.tar
SS_DL.dll (ignore this file)
4. Download Odin which we will be using to flash XXJW4 on the phone. http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?06v1nznuk3ng7gw
5. Disconnect your phone if it’s connected to PC. Then switch it off. Wait 5-6 seconds for vibration to confirm complete switch off.
6. Boot into recovery. To do this, press and hold the Volume_UP + Home + Power till the screen turns on, then let them go. You will boot into recovery soon enough.
7. Then, use the volume keys to navigate and the home/power key to select options, select wipe data/factory reset, then select Yes on next screen to confirm. After the data wipe is complete, remove and re-insert the battery, but don’t power it back on.
8. Put the Galaxy S in Download Mode. To do that press and hold these keys together: Volume down + Home + Power until a screen saying Download Mode comes up.
9. Open Odin (downloaded in step 4) — Odin3 v1.7.exe.
10. Connect your phone to PC now. You should get the message “Added!!” under Odin’s message box in the bottom left. If you don’t get this message, then probably there is a problem with drivers. Make sure you’ve proper drivers installed.
11. Now, in Odin, click the PDA Tab, and select the file JW4_JW4_JW4.tar
12. Important! Do not touch any other button or make any other changes in Odin except selecting the required file as given in step 11.
13. Now, hit the START button to begin the flashing process. When it finishes, your phone will automatically reboot, upon which you can unplug the cable. Plus, you’ll get a PASS (with green background) message in the left-most box at the very top of the Odin.
IMPORTANT Note: If ODIN gets stuck at some stage and doesn’t seem to be doing anything, do this — disconnect the phone from the PC, close ODIN, remove battery, re-insert it, turn phone on in Download mode again, and do the procedure again from Step 9. Same if you get a FAIL message in Odin.
14. Finish!
Now the rooting part.
1.Download CF-Root http://download.chainfire.eu/155/CF-Root/SGS/CF-Root-XX_OXA_JW4-v4.4-CWM3RFS.zip
2. Unzip the file and you get a tar file. It may look like a zip file but it is not. So do not extract the tar file.
3. Open Odin (if you don't have it download it from section 4 in installing part)
4. Switch off the phone and wait for vibration. When it vibrates it is completely off
5. Make sure you have drivers (JW4 installing section 1)
6. Put your phone to download download mode. To do that press vol down + home + power.
7. Now your phone should be in download mode. Plug it to computer (make sure odin is still open)
8. Click PDA tab and choose CF-Root-XX_OXA_JW4-v4.4-CWM3RFS.tar.
9. Click start
10. Wait
11. Wait more and then there should read Success! in odin
12. Now you can disconnect the phone.
13. Finish!
Now we are ready to install a custom ROM!
First you need to download a ROM. I recommend Cyanogenmod because it is popular, it has many features and it is stable. Here is link http://get.cm/get/3qH
1. Download the ROM.
2. Put it to your phone's internal sd-card
3. Download gapps http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-ics-20120429-signed.zip
4. Put it to your phone's sd-card
5. Reboot to recovery (vol up + home + power)
6. Wipe data/factory reset
7. Wipe cache
8. Advanced > wipe dalvik cache
9. Install zip from sd-card
10. Choose zip from sd-card
11. Select cm-9.0.0-galaxysmtd.zip
12. Confirm
13. Wait
14. Wait more
15. Wait even more
16. Go back
17. Don't reboot
18. Install zip from sd-card
19. Choose zip from sd-card
20. Choose gapps-ics-20120429-signed.zip
21. Confirm
22. Wait
23. Reboot
Now it's ready! You made it! You rooted and updated your phone. Be proud!
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here are the reason:
1. While installing jw4 in step 6 you have ask to boot in recovery and recovery only available when you have flashed a kernel which supports it.
2. If i already have recovery them why i should flash jw4 again and then again root it and flash the ics.
3. You have asked to put rom in internal sdcard and gapps in sdacrd... they should both be in same card else a new user might get confuse.
4. You haven't mention if user ends in bootloop what should he do?
I think this guide is just fine , go make your one if there's a problem^. Good job OP.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium
I meant to write internal sd card for gapps and my sgs had stock recovery without root.
Have you ever heard about android stock recovery 3e?
And i forgot to write what to do if bootloop And fortunately nobody asked what to do if bootloop and if someone asks, i'll reply and explain what to do.
monkeywithbanana said:
I meant to write internal sd card for gapps and my sgs had stock recovery without root
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Is it... i haven't heard like this ever.
bakcup /efs
I didn't acutally read the whole thing so I don't know wether it's corret or not, but I think you should definitly advise the user to backup the /efs folder to prevent issues with IMEI/baseband.
(searched your guide for /efs and didn't find it anywhere)
Greets.
AlwaysDroid said:
I think this guide is just fine , go make your one if there's a problem^. Good job OP.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium
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I can create my own guide however did not want to have one more thread on the thing which is already there a lots of time rather than I will spread the already present guides.
boot loop
Hi,
I followed the entire guide and after getting and "Encryption Unsuccessful" -> Reset to Factory, I got a boot loop.
Any ideas on how I could fix this?
Thanks for the guide
Nash
--
UPDATE: Fixed the boot loop but still don't know why it happened. Can you shed a light? Still on 2.3
Thanks!
Nash
Were you flashing the Rom or gapps before getting the encryption error? It's possible that the zip files are corrupted or they have some errors. Try to redownload the files.
Thanks for your reply, but i want to know if that works with my phones stock rom
CF-Root is is available for almost every Samsung SGS stock rom(maybe for every stock rom) so you just need to tell me your baseband and i'll give instructions to do that for your ROM.
What if I still have Froyo installed? Where can I find instructions to upgrade to Gingerbread?
See the ''installing JW4'' section
monkeywithbanana said:
And i forgot to write what to do if bootloop And fortunately nobody asked what to do if bootloop and if someone asks, i'll reply and explain what to do.
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I have this exact problem...I have followed the instructions to the T, Now my phone is just "bootlooping". Please can you tell me what to do?
Thanks in advance
Factory reset and try flashing again.
Uhh why don't you just suggest an odin flash of Darky's rom, then a CWM flash of CM9 then CM10. That would be a lot quicker and easier to read and explain.
it's a good guide, thanks

[Q] motorola defy plus bootloader version check

IMEI: 358960040196464
Technology: UMTS
Software Version: 4.5.1-134_DFP-231
Flex Version: UCADEFYEMARAB1B50AA009.0R
Bootloader Version: 0910
DRM Version: N/A
is my phone having bootloader 7 or other?
please mail me the complete procedure for mod10 installation and rooting procedure clearly along with links to dwnld various reqd files or prgms
[email protected]
foryouthonly3 said:
IMEI: 358960040196464
Technology: UMTS
Software Version: 4.5.1-134_DFP-231
Flex Version: UCADEFYEMARAB1B50AA009.0R
Bootloader Version: 0910
DRM Version: N/A
is my phone having bootloader 7 or other?
please mail me the complete procedure for mod10 installation and rooting procedure clearly along with links to dwnld various reqd files or prgms
[email protected]
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Welcome to XDA forums
Yes your phone has bootloader 7 .Please refer to the links below for detailed procedures on rooting your phone and installing a custom rom
IMP : Make a back up of your existing ROM before flashing CM10 , just in case you want to go back to stock rom.
Here is the link to root your phone
Once your phone is rooted follow the steps below
Download 2ndinit version 2.3 apk from here
Allow root permission to 2ndinit once the installation is complete the LED should turn Green.
Download the latest version of CM10 (Quarx version 20121109) from here and save it on your SD Card.
Reboot your phone and just when the LED turns blue press the volume down button to enter Recovery. Once in recovery mode scroll down to the option "Wipe data/factory reset" using the volume down button. You can select the option by pressing the Power button.
Similarly do "Wipe Cache partition" and then scroll down to Advanced options and then select wipe "Wipe Dalvik cache".
Select the "Go Back option" and then scroll down to select "Install Zip from SD card" . Select the zip file that you had saved earlier on your SD card and wait till the installation is complete. Once you reboot you should now have CM 10 rom on your phone. Depending on your requirement you may then flash either minimal gapps or complete gapps available here
Hi,
I carried out the procedure as you described for the same phone (Defy+, DFP-231). However, my SD got corrupted and I lost my backup of my existing ROM.
CM10 works like a charm but I want to return to my original state.
Can you assist?
Thanks, TY
@southpaw said:
Welcome to XDA forums
Yes your phone has bootloader 7 .Please refer to the links below for detailed procedures on rooting your phone and installing a custom rom
IMP : Make a back up of your existing ROM before flashing CM10 , just in case you want to go back to stock rom.
Here is the link to root your phone
Once your phone is rooted follow the steps below
Download 2ndinit version 2.3 apk from here
Allow root permission to 2ndinit once the installation is complete the LED should turn Green.
Download the latest version of CM10 (Quarx version 20121109) from here and save it on your SD Card.
Reboot your phone and just when the LED turns blue press the volume down button to enter Recovery. Once in recovery mode scroll down to the option "Wipe data/factory reset" using the volume down button. You can select the option by pressing the Power button.
Similarly do "Wipe Cache partition" and then scroll down to Advanced options and then select wipe "Wipe Dalvik cache".
Select the "Go Back option" and then scroll down to select "Install Zip from SD card" . Select the zip file that you had saved earlier on your SD card and wait till the installation is complete. Once you reboot you should now have CM 10 rom on your phone. Depending on your requirement you may then flash either minimal gapps or complete gapps available here
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The only way to return to the stock rom is either by using a nandroid back up or by flashing the correct SBF file for your rom . But since your memory card is corrupt the only other option is to flash a SBFfile . Kindly refer to the thread given below for more details on flashing a SBF files.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537

[Q] roms

hi can anyone help me I have a Packard bell liberty tab to which I have been told it is an a500 in a different case PB will not update the system to ICS so is there any way I can do this myself using an ICS rom and if there is where can I download this from
thanks in anticipation
[GUIDE]
kevings178 said:
hi can anyone help me I have a Packard bell liberty tab to which I have been told it is an a500 in a different case PB will not update the system to ICS so is there any way I can do this myself using an ICS rom and if there is where can I download this from
thanks in anticipation
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I got you covered ;p
First of all, you need root. I assume you're on 3.2.1.
To get a rooted stock ROM, download this:
http://depositfiles.com/files/c6pr69ri6
Follow Instructions in PDF...
After you've done that, confirm that you have the superuser app installed now....
Download the latest stable 4.2 or 4.3 ROMS...
(There are many options...CHOOSE !!!ONE!!! (DOWNLOAD GAPPS TOO)
Randomblame's 4.3 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2376662
Randomblame's 4.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990136
Pjsports's 4.3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426942
Pjsports's 4.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049874
Thor2002ro's 4.3: (For this one you need a tegraowner's account) http://forum.tegraowners.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1312
)
Thor2002ro's 4.2: http://forum.tegraowners.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1046
(Recommend Thor 4.2 because it is the most stable and updated)
Also download the latest recovery (Using Acer Recovery Installer (Google Play Store) or from here http://forum.tegraowners.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1281 (Also need a tegraowners account).
Put your ROM, Gapps and Recovery files on the root folder of your External SD card. (don't extract anything)
Now power off your tablet.
Now press the power button and volume - (or volume + if you're holding in portrait) key until you boot into recovery. Then navigate to the wipe menu.
Go into the Wipe menu, and do a Data Wipe.
Go into the Install Zip from SD Card menu, and install/upgrade to the latest version of Touch Recovery.
Reboot the A500, and once again go into Recovery (hold VOL-).
Go into the Install Zip from SD Card menu, and install the ROM.
Go into the Wipe menu, and do a Data Wipe. (yes a 2nd data wipe)
Go into the Install Zip from SD Card menu, and install GApps.
Reboot the device (Don't hold VOL- this time).
Enjoy...credits to Dime for this Guide...

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