I have a question that has been bugging me for a while.
I like keeping track of things.. do it in Windows, do it (less successfully) in OSX and try to do the same with Android. I track what I install, change, add, uninstall and try to keep a very clear log of changes to my system , available space, etc.
Currently Im running my Tab with Overcome 4.x Gingerbread custom ROM that from all I every tried works best for me from many months now. With it I have the ability to do CWM nandroid backups which I do regularly and that have saved my life already in multiple occasions.
Well, it happens that almost daily, my Android build seems to get bigger. It doesn't matter the cleaning I do or even the fact I go weeks without installing or adding anything to my Tab.. all logs are clean, all SMS deleted, emails and all attachments deleted, no pictures, media or downloaded files added, lazylist folder, no other caches (I clean everything with cache cleaners, SD Maid and even regularly flush my dalvik cache & cache partition).. basically nothing getting-in that I dont think I know. Also, I have no apps with Airpush, no apps that display ads I cant block via ad blockers and do all I can to make sure my system doesn't get bulge and garbage.
BUT I'M UNSUCCESSFUL! My regular CWM backups get bigger and bigger in size since the first day. Each one is bigger than the previous.. it doesn't matter what I do. From the past 3 months alone over 300 Mb have been added to the size of my backed-up images while I hardly changed or added anything to the Tab.
So my question is, why? Where is this space being filled from? Logs? Repositories of some sort? Does Android make automatic backups of "stuff" that keeps forever that can be manually deleted? How can I stop this from happening?? I feel like a have a tumor inside my Tab as my ROM grows uncontrollably in size each day. It was about 600Mb 3 months ago, now is almost 1Gg while I hardly added NOTHING to the Tab. What is it being filled with and where?
I would L*O*V*E to find a way to do some house cleaning and understanding where all this "stuff" is coming from and going where!!
Thanks in advance for your insight and advice!!
OK so after scanning my system I realize most of my used space is in the SYSTEM XBIN folder.. from the near 1Gb of total used space, over 700Mb is inside the XBIN! What is this anyway? Can this folder be deleted? What is it used for? Most of the endless files inside are all 1.9Mb and I can only recognize a few like busybox, though, its also duplicated on the BIN folder. So, can the XBIN be deleted or how can it be selectively cleaned-up?
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since i was unable to find the proper answer to fix the problem the easy way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793254
i had to go it the hard way
just went ahead and Wiped my phone.
it was less painful than i though it'll be, it was within the calculated parameters of the process involved to get your device up to speed in record time in a massive failure
so once the phone booted back into the OS, the very first thing i did was to setup APN
then sign in to my gmail account, BAM! got all my pictures, phones, contacts, calendars, etc, every thing back
then next task was to install AppsBrain, hit sync and BAM! i got my list of 400+ apps to install back
now i'm clicking through about 800 times install, okay, continue LOL :r
and i'm rather surprise Android Market, and the OS hasn't crapped out on me yet with the massive deluge of files action
it's install faster than i though... only 200+ apps to go
and about 15+ more email / IM accounts to join back into the system, and reconfiguring 400 apps
the Titanium Backup backed up files got wiped out in the process
at least i'm getting a good vibe out of this, it means the upgrade to Froyo will be just the same
the phone is HOT of all the 3.5G activity
the actual 3 button reboot to Recovery Mode + Wipe data and reboot back took less than a minute.
chances of missing a call during this time is quite low
SMS will be downloaded as soon as your phone goes back into OS, so chances of missing out on an important SMS is very unlikely
another interesting i noticed is that the File System is not choking up as it did before the Hard Reset.
before i couldn't get more than 4 apps downloading/installing concurrently in parallel
right now i'm doing around 10 at a time, and it doesn't slow down.
what gives?
AllGamer said:
another interesting i noticed is that the File System is not choking up as it did before the Hard Reset.
before i couldn't get more than 4 apps downloading/installing concurrently in parallel
right now i'm doing around 10 at a time, and it doesn't slow down.
what gives?
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Really? Maybe i should wipe my device to
Installing more than 3 apps at the same moment.... it´s just a pain...
exactly, normally when you try to download and install 4 apps simultaneously it gets sooooooo slow, worse than a snail
but for some odd reason right now that is not happening, it's smooth download and install, i wonder that's the difference
recommend you buy/install mybackup pro.. you can reinstall a bunch of apps without it prompting you for each one... i think if you pay for titanium backup it does the same..
i frequently copy the appmanager (diff app i use) and titanium backup directoryies from internal to external sd so i have have a backup in case of a full reset ..
i also set mybackup pro to backup directly to external sd.
yeah, that was my problem i forgot to move a copy of titanium backup from internal SD to external SD
otherwise i'd not have had to go thorugh 800+ clicks to say OK to everything
LOL
well... after aprox 250+ apps/games installed the phone is going back to its old self slooooooooow when you try to install 2 or more apps concurrently.
and the list of Manage Apps takes a while to load up
so it seems like the sweet spot is to keep less than 200 apps on the phone to keep it running silky smooth
Thanks for the report and the painless part, AllGamer.
May have to try it one of these days if I screw up.
After reading you post, I move the Titanium Backups to SDcard
just so I don't forget. Now have to remember to update it.
I can't even imagine how you have 800 apps on your phone. I just counted and I have 21, and to me that is a lot, but perfect.
not 800 it's 400 but for each install you need 2 click
so that's 800 clicks
Can you do a write up on step by step how to wipe and reinstall the (JH2) ROM, kernal, modem etc for i9000M?
He Guys
I wanted to backup my sdcard, so I pulled everything over via adb. But then some strange files struck to me. One of them is about 1GB big. They're named like FSCK0000.REC and so on. The other file is -2GB big? How does that even work?
I guess these files have something to do with my file system, because FSCK is a file system check. But why does this cause so big files? I'm really confused. My build works as good as everytime. So I'm pretty sure they don't affect it. But I'm not sure if it is a good idea to just delete them. Did anyone of you ever had this strange issue?
Edit: These files seem to be logfiles. If I open them with the notepad, they're full with logs about apps and system infos.
I'm pretty sure these are system log files and are created by certain builds of HD2 Android. I use to get hundreds of them (albeit very small) which clogged up any file browsers. Delete them and they come back. I think they are created when Android unexpectedly crashes.
But then I updated my Android build and have never seen them since.
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I'm pretty sure these are system log files and are created by certain builds of HD2 Android. I use to get hundreds of them (albeit very small) which clogged up any file browsers. Delete them and they come back. I think they are created when Android unexpectedly crashes.
But then I updated my Android build and have never seen them since.
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Yes, I think you're right. So I deleted them. But they were huge
Whatever, nothing happend.
Thanks.
I think they are from CurrentWidget
No, current widget saves the logfiles per default as currentwidget.log.
But I've found the solution, those are logfiles that are created if your phone hangs up and you have to kill it. It might be some kind of recovery or whatever, but it defenitely does not hurt to delete them
So, thanks anyway.
Cheers
It's my birthday and the day of a big problem. So please assist ;-)
Been transfering movie files from PC to Tab via USB/MTP. The process was going fine until the last file to be copied. Then Tab lost connection. Reconnected the cable. Tried to copy the last file. Then Tab hung. Absolutely.
I disconnected USB cable and rebooted the TAB. It showed the Samsung animation, then "samsung" title, some gargabe at the bottom of the screen and .. that last forever.
Well, rebooted once again. Same situation, but screem garbage moved to top.
Well, 3rd reboot and .. whoa, eventually it booted!
But ... it asked me to introduce myself (e.g. enter e-mail, ...) and enter Google prefeences (just like with a fresh new tab). Skipped it (Hacker's keyboard was already not working - couldn't type in).
Then the desktop arrived. My God, it's absolutely brand new. All my settings and icons disappeared.
Went to Applications - they all seem to survive. But don't work. Almost all of them crash when you start them. Some very simple and built-in apps work though.
The Contacts disappear as well. Just like E-mail.
Remember I started this message with that I was transferring files? Well, they're not visible. Even their new folder is missing. But the storage is used exactly to the size of those files. All 10Gb. I tried to delete its parent folder (say, "/sdcard/Movies"). Free storage barely changed (only for the size of existing files).
Well, it's ruined. My lovely and so customized Tab. Damn.
So the very dumb questions are:
- What's that? Broken filesystem? How came? How to check/fix?
- How to save app settings (that's ALOT, include data for my kids' paid games)?
- Where Touch Wiz and other settings actually stored? I suspect there must be a system database (saw an error from "SQlite" when FBReader crashed).
Well, I could wipe everything, but not sure it would solve the filesystem problem and would take muuuuuuuuch time. And we don't have ICS rolled out for Russia yet, so that would be a very time wasting process.
p.s. Titanium backup doesn't start too. Moreover, everytime I install something it crashes again ;-)
You might try setting up your gmail account, the initial thing that you skipped. I'm just guessing, but perhaps you need the account active to use apps that might be linked to your account on the market.
Also, again, this is just a guess, but if your movies are DRM protected, is it possible you can't access because it thinks you are a different user?
Just some thoughts. Quite possibly useless, but maybe worth a shot. Good luck!
Later,
Jason
Go to settings/ apps and force stop Samsung Media Scanner... Worked on mine a while back, hopefully that will fix the problem for you... Good luck!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Something very similar happened to me when I was trying to watch a movie off of an sd card with the adapter. I ended up having to re-flash a stock image through Odin and re tweak everything (Rom, re-download apps...everything. Sucks that I lost all my progress in games etc. but it made me re-evaluate what apps I really used and needed so now it's running faster and smoother than ever. I even decided against using pershoot's overclocking kernel (for now) as everything feels so fresh and so clean, and it seems unnecessary.
ampforeva said:
It's my birthday and the day of a big problem. So please assist ;-)
Been transfering movie files from PC to Tab via USB/MTP. The process was going fine until the last file to be copied. Then Tab lost connection. Reconnected the cable. Tried to copy the last file. Then Tab hung. Absolutely.
I disconnected USB cable and rebooted the TAB. It showed the Samsung animation, then "samsung" title, some gargabe at the bottom of the screen and .. that last forever.
Well, rebooted once again. Same situation, but screem garbage moved to top.
Well, 3rd reboot and .. whoa, eventually it booted!
But ... it asked me to introduce myself (e.g. enter e-mail, ...) and enter Google prefeences (just like with a fresh new tab). Skipped it (Hacker's keyboard was already not working - couldn't type in).
Then the desktop arrived. My God, it's absolutely brand new. All my settings and icons disappeared.
Went to Applications - they all seem to survive. But don't work. Almost all of them crash when you start them. Some very simple and built-in apps work though.
The Contacts disappear as well. Just like E-mail.
Remember I started this message with that I was transferring files? Well, they're not visible. Even their new folder is missing. But the storage is used exactly to the size of those files. All 10Gb. I tried to delete its parent folder (say, "/sdcard/Movies"). Free storage barely changed (only for the size of existing files).
Well, it's ruined. My lovely and so customized Tab. Damn.
So the very dumb questions are:
- What's that? Broken filesystem? How came? How to check/fix?
- How to save app settings (that's ALOT, include data for my kids' paid games)?
- Where Touch Wiz and other settings actually stored? I suspect there must be a system database (saw an error from "SQlite" when FBReader crashed).
Well, I could wipe everything, but not sure it would solve the filesystem problem and would take muuuuuuuuch time. And we don't have ICS rolled out for Russia yet, so that would be a very time wasting process.
p.s. Titanium backup doesn't start too. Moreover, everytime I install something it crashes again ;-)
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Something got corrupted. It could have been app databases like you suggest. Sounds pretty reasonable. I hate to say it but you may want to hard reset and see if the issue persist. If it does persist after a hard reset then you have a defective device
Do you have a nandroid backup of your setup?
Hmm, really wierd. I just noticed today something unexpected happened. In the app manager under downloaded, it says device memory is 8.1GB free. But under storage it says avail space 6.3GB free. So which is right? I installed like 4 apps today and there's not any that would use anywhere close to 2GB. not sure if some apps screw this up. Any idea what I should do?
Also under storage, misc section it says 1.7GB used but clicking on it doesn't show anything using more than a few hundred kb.
Edit: well, i finally found the culprit. I went to application manager and click on the recent apps I used today. the google drive cache shows 1.6GB. cleared that cache restores the free space in storage to the expected 8GB.
It's crazy about these things. How the hell did google drive cache get to 1.6GB? I justed installed that today and just used it one time to upload a 400MB video file to the cloud.... This really put a bad taste to start out. Think i might just have to uninstall it.. HAd to go into google drive and did a clear cache and set cache to 25 mb.
Also went into \Phone\Android\data\com.google.android.apps.docs\files\pinned_docs_files_do_not_edit folder. deleted the .thumbnail file that was 400MB and created a dummy file with same name to prevent android from recreating this file. Gallery browsing still works afterward, possibly slower but who fcking care if it would take 5 more secs to load my images if this can prevent massive built up of this file eventually.
Under the misc files section in storage, it still says 500MB. Would be nice to be able to clean out even more. Anyone can share some more tips for cleaning out these kind of garbage comsumming space?
I have a rooted S5 w/ 16GB of internal storage, but I'm rarely able to update/download new apps. I have to scrounge for apps to delete for a half hour just to get it to let me download a new app or update an app. I have moved just about all the apps I can to the SD card (32GB, less than half used).
In the storage screen it says I have used 14.88GB in apps, and <20MB in everything else with "Free space" around 400-500MB. I usually have to get it to mid 500s before it will let me do anything on it. To make matters worse, somehow the apps I uninstall keep reinstalling themselves.
My problem seems to be this big "Applications" thing - which isn't right. I have some large apps, but they keep all their data on the SD card (like podcasts with PocketCasts). On my applications manager, from top down in size - facebook @ 190MB, google play services at 156MB, google app at 134MB... dropping off fairly quickly after that, so no way its 15GB worth.
What am I missing? Do others constantly have this problem? It is getting ridiculous! No reason that I can see that there should be a big bunch of stuff that is counted as used when it isn't.
Some things I've tried:
I heard about something the dumpstate/logcat, I cleared it but nothing got better
I used adb to set the default install location to the external SD card (I forget the exact command), as far as I can tell it is still trying to install in the internal SD card.
Any suggestions or more information needed?
EDIT:
More information thanks to DiskUsage (forgot I can download APKs - which install fine). It shows my internal SD card breakdown as 10796MB overall, 2612MB app data, 7815MB "System data", and 340MB free space (plus some other misc. that makes up the difference). I don't have a great understanding of how this is partitioned, but I'd imagine the ~16GB has 5GB off limits for ROM stuff? Then what is taking up nearly 8GB as "System data"? Is this normal?
EDIT 2:
Looks like it was creating duplicates in data/app (on a lot of phones I think this is data/app-lib). I used root explorer to purge the duplicates, and now have nearly 3GB free instead of a couple hundred MB!
I have the same problems but I use DiskUsage from the Play Store. Most of the time it's my cache for the download manager has several gigs of wasted space. Clearing cache fixes it for me.
Eodmule said:
I have the same problems but I use DiskUsage from the Play Store. Most of the time it's my cache for the download manager has several gigs of wasted space. Clearing cache fixes it for me.
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I'll check that out the next time I am able to install an app but I should mention I also tap the "cached data" in the storage manager thing (in settings). Usually doesn't work I also use CleanMaster, which seems like it works, some times.
EDIT: Just checked it out, that's awesome! I have been looking for this kind of app, I use WinDirStat on windows that does something similar.
mrzeus7 said:
EDIT: Just checked it out, that's awesome! I have been looking for this kind of app, I use WinDirStat on windows that does something similar.
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I use WinDirStat also. I really like the visual presentation of both.
Here ya go. You can try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66304384
?If anyone helps, plz give thanks?
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