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Large Onscreen Keyboard for hi-res options

Is there a way of getting a larger onscreen keyboard to show when using OzVga or similar hi-resolution apps?
The default onscreen keyboard on the Universal (at 320/240 res) is quite usable - but when you switch to 640/480 res the onscreen keyboard is a much smaller, much less useful one.
Has anyone figured out a way to show/use the larger version that's already in the software, or is there another keyboard skin I can download?
I've done a bit of searching (using the obvious keywords of "onscreen" "keyboard", "Larger" etc etc etc and found nothing except post about stopping the onscreen keyboard showing.)
Anyone else found this annoying??

Google for full screen keyboard

hanmin said:
Google for full screen keyboard
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Cheers, useful link, but not actually what I'm after.
I really want a keyboard that's "half-screen" rather than "full-screen" - ie just like the default keyboard on the 320/240 resolution.

Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44085&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

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Try this
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Cheers hanmin!

virtual keyboard idea needs ur skills

hi, i have an idea that when merged with ur development skills may result in such a good keyboard, the idea is about a fullscreen keyboard just like spb keyboard but with a small addition that to be a transparent keyboard, take a look at the attached image, as u can see every button is one character just to make it easy as possible for pressing, i meant by the SP buttons that they r special buttons just like space, enter or they can be like TouchPal special buttons may be for numbers or special characters or an exit(hide) button and so on.
now i believe that it appears in the image that some of the characters is not clear because it is over another layer but dont forget that am poor with design so may be a good designer can give the characters a better effect to give clear image than the emboss effect i used in the image, may be a negative effect or something, even for the character square-background there is no need for it i just set it to show the character borders.
so developers i hope this can take place one day, and i hope from any graphic designer to take a screen shot from a mobile screen then try to add the characters layer with most possible clearance what ever is the background layer and then post here to see the result, thnx anyway ....

what if you make a mistake when typing and notice it at the end? how are you going to travel through the message as normally you will click where you want to put the cursor however when you click on yours it'll write a letter?

mmmm i didnt notice this, u r right, what about about pressing a special button which shows up/down/left/right transparent buttons with backspace/delete buttons just like touchpal?? so we have a new idea here that to give the keyboard all the control on a text, what do u think ??

I like the idea but another problem is how to make it qwerty-like in portrait mode?
I mean the limiting factor is the horizontal size of buttons (qwerty in portrait) not their height.

Applogies first, this is the extent of my artistic skills lol
if you based it on the hermes keyboard you can have ten keys on each row, so that would give each key a width of 32, and if you make the height of the key 40 that would give you a keyboard of 10 by 5, but u only need 10 by 4
im not sure if its workable but ill add the worst keyboard youve ever seen so you get the ideal

You are truly an artist! Teach me, master!
But that's in landscape (which is not a problem), what about portrait mode?

Really should just give TouchPal a go... I find that better than any hardware or virtual keyboard you can get...

actually am using TouchPal and it is my best keyboard and i believe that if windows mobile devices has a very sensitive touch screen just like the iPhone then i can say that TouchPal will be the best all the time, but with my htc touch i still have a problem with touchpal when i want to enter such words like password/email (without predicate) specially when sliding left/right, any way it was an idea ....

crusti said:
Applogies first, this is the extent of my artistic skills lol
if you based it on the hermes keyboard you can have ten keys on each row, so that would give each key a width of 32, and if you make the height of the key 40 that would give you a keyboard of 10 by 5, but u only need 10 by 4
im not sure if its workable but ill add the worst keyboard youve ever seen so you get the ideal
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...that just gave me turets!

soft keyboard

I like to carry my Advantage on the leather cover without the keyboard, what help to keep it protected without making too much bulk on my pocket. I have tried many of the soft keyboards available and like very much Resco, Zoomboard and PocketCM. However I think the best layout is the one which have the keys on the 'smile' orientation which apparently none of them offer. I'm using SPB full keyboard because of that but don't like the fact it covers the all screen, it's more oriented for small screen than to the Advantage. Does anyone knows about a VGA skin on this shape? What everybody is using for soft keyboard?

I've tried many software keyboard. I always go back to Tengo 2.1. If you're not using 192dpi, it's good to also have Resco Keyboard in addition to Tengo 2.1.
At the moment I'm back to using my device in 192dpi again, after using it in 96dpi for many months. At this dpi, I like to completely do without the stylus. So I've redone my iLauncher to use the Thumb tab and have big icons throughout. Tengo 2.1 works very well for Thumb typing. There are only six big keys (or rather six areas of keys) to touch most of the time, so its really easy. Tengo's keyboard size is the same under all dpi. It does not invade your screen like some other soft keyboard, despite having one of the largest sized keys (or areas of keys).
One other important consideration is weather or not you need to input in other languages too. If you need to input in East Asian language, then your choices may be different again, just as example.

Thank you Eaglesteve, I will try Tengo. I'm using 192dpi also because on the move I need something that I can easy 'shot' the right key due to the large icons instead of 'aiming' perfectly on the bullseye. Many times walking and working with the Advantage, what a great machine!!

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Thank you Eaglesteve, I will try Tengo. I'm using 192dpi also because on the move I need something that I can easy 'shot' the right key due to the large icons instead of 'aiming' perfectly on the bullseye. Many times walking and working with the Advantage, what a great machine!!
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Be sure to go through the tutorial first.
If you're using it in 192 dpi, forget about Resco, because Tengo 2.1 has three different layout, one of which is the big sized standard keyboard, which is good for typing in software serial number, etc. The other two layouts are not suitable for such job.
The thing that you will like about this keyboard is that it is not necessary to type the specific key precisely although that would also work. The idea is to allow you to be very very imprecise and yet give you the correct words to choose from. Your finger need not travel all over the place when you type. Just touch the TYGHBN area.
If you need special and unique words, then go for the key precisely. What you type will appear on top right corner. Just choose that word instead of the proposed ones. Once you have used that unique word once, it automatically gets added to the dictionary so that you can use that word by typing imprecisely at the six area later on.
Enjoy.

How do you change resoloution?
Forgive me for my stupid question, but how do you change the screen resolution on your athena?
Would like to do that myself!

branko.savic said:
Forgive me for my stupid question, but how do you change the screen resolution on your athena?
Would like to do that myself!
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Not sure if I understand what you're asking. If your question is what I think it is, then the answer is to use realVGA. Am I missing something?

I think that's what he's asking.
RealVGA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327830

techntrek said:
I think that's what he's asking.
RealVGA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327830
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Thanks!
Thats exactly what I meant!

Best Keyboard?

I'm using TouchPal at the moment, but it doesn't change when you switch to landscape. Can anyone recommend a decent keyboard which makes use of all that space in landscape?

Heh, I wish I could get TouchPal to work on my HD, but it refuses to install correctly.
I honestly thought TouchPal was the best keyboard out there. SPB Keyboard 4.0 has a landscape-fullscreen keyboard, which occupies the whole screen, with one line of text input. The HTC landscape keyboard isn't that bad either.

is there any KB out there as good as the iphone KB, including predictability?
HD KB isnt bad, but can drive me crazy sometimes as it isnt smart. T9 is prone to errors that place words in the middle of the sentance.

ekerbuddyeker said:
is there any KB out there as good as the iphone KB, including predictability?
HD KB isnt bad, but can drive me crazy sometimes as it isnt smart. T9 is prone to errors that place words in the middle of the sentance.
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This is a very personal choice so you should try out all of them. What I like most is Tengo, but not necessarily what you like. Iphone keyboard does not appeal to me at all.

ekerbuddyeker said:
is there any KB out there as good as the iphone KB, including predictability?
HD KB isnt bad, but can drive me crazy sometimes as it isnt smart. T9 is prone to errors that place words in the middle of the sentance.
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Hmm, what's so great about the iPhone keyboard? Its predictability is rather average especially for a full QWERTY, and it is not nearly as thought-through as TouchPal (my favourite, if you can't tell ). TouchPal is so easy to use as it is a breeze to switch between all the possible modes, there is no soft keyboard for me that types faster than its SureType (2 characters per key) mode, in fact I don't have much difference in typing speed between this and my Blackberry's suretype board, which I loved, as I can type blindly and a lot faster on suretype than on qwerty. Best of all: activate word prediction, and it is a SureType, deactivate prediction and it is a QWERTY, without changing views. Nice feat if you want to throw in a URL or a custom word in between...
The ONLY drawback as far as I am concerned is the lack of a landscape mode, and it doesn't even feel like a drawback to me since I hate keyboards that completely change layout when the screen rotates. All fine and dandy that there is more space available for a KB in landscape mode but the fact that I need to change typing style along with the screen orientation every time gets old really fast.
Just my $0.02.

IceEyz said:
Heh, I wish I could get TouchPal to work on my HD, but it refuses to install correctly.
I honestly thought TouchPal was the best keyboard out there. SPB Keyboard 4.0 has a landscape-fullscreen keyboard, which occupies the whole screen, with one line of text input. The HTC landscape keyboard isn't that bad either.
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TouchPal wouldn't install for me either.
Tried several times.
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I use the Teksoft Fingertouch. After installing Gyrator2, it does both landscape and portrait, has 5 different keyboards, and the QWERTY full keyboard in landscape is what I use for SMS messages. The keys are just big enough to hit with your thumbs and I have Snailslug Touchresponse to give me haptic feedback whenever the screen is touched. I tried TouchPal, but the keys were just too small and it used the portrait keyboard even in landscape.

I really love the www.pocketcm.com keyboard, customizable and skinnable

@sebbes: Do you have a skin for pcm keyboard that fit in the HD in landscape mode (with a french layout ) ?

Anyone else got suggestions for good keyboard for "thumbboarding"? (ie with both thumbs). I think if done properly that's the best solution for text entry with the device, because you have a solid grip of the device with both hands, and the size of the screen makes the buttons big enough for thumb hits.

i just wish my old workinghorse TENGO THUMB would work
tryed it and it did end up realy weird on the sccreen.... i have used manny onscreen keyboards... but nothing beats tengo thumb when it comes to writing fast!
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TouchPal wouldn't install for me either.
Tried several times.
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Hm...that's strange. I installed Touchpal on my HD without any problems.
Are you sure you downloaded the Windows Mobile 6.1 version of Touchpal (not the 6.0 one)?
The only 2 issues I've had are:
- it doesn't stay as default after a soft-reset (though this is usually very quick to overcome as you can pop up the SIP menu and Touchpal is right there on the menu)
- as someone mentioned before, the landscape version isn't being displayed when the HD is on it's side...maybe a detection issue. The normal keyboard is displayed but it's still quite usable.
Ben

New version of TouchPal will support landscape mode. It should be out still ion this year.

In my opinion, the best keyboard on Touch HD is Tengo Thumb. Not the regular Tengo, but the Thumb version.
The QWERTY keys are zoned into 6 areas. As long as you press the correct area, it is unnecessary to accurate touch the precise location of the key. It is similar to the T9 version of the Compact QWERTY except you have fewer areas to worry about, therefore affording bigger hitting areas and requiring even less precision.
I had previously used the regular version, which gives a good regions size on my Athena, but that proves too small for HD. The aspect ratio of HD, being taller, also makes this keyboard a perfect input tool in portrait mode. On landscape it occupies just a little too much of the real estate though.

gnagis said:
i just wish my old workinghorse TENGO THUMB would work
tryed it and it did end up realy weird on the sccreen.... i have used manny onscreen keyboards... but nothing beats tengo thumb when it comes to writing fast!
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Tengo Thumb works perfectly for me. No wierd behaviours noted yet.

resco keyboard suits me quite well. the only thing that lacks is push and hold function for scandic letters.

tkalli said:
TouchPal wouldn't install for me either.
Tried several times.
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That is strange, I just download the latest V3.5 Touchpal install successful and it works very good in my HD

Some advice, please.
nin2thevoid said:
Hmm, what's so great about the iPhone keyboard? ...........
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I'm not an iphone fan (see my signature) but i have to recognise that, as much as I hated errors while fingertyping (no stylus allowed, and I've BIG fingers) at least, when you push the keyboard, you see the intended hit character in a "bubble" that is slighly offset of the key, so you actually SEE the letter close to your finger, not the corners of a grey square UNDER your finger, where in fact you can not read what is inside.
Has any of the proposed keboards have this feature?
I've read all the posts in this thread without much info on specific features.
Thanks for help.

Touchpal 3.5
Ive tried them all but I always come back to touchpal. Works great on my HD. Just wont stay default, but not a big problem. Multiple dictionaries, I Speak English and Spanish and is great with both dictionaries. Resize on the fly if the keyboard is too big. Most programs resize automatically. Easy to use with thumb, perfect for me. All keyboards are personal preference though.

does touchpal have romanian dictionary ? where can i get it from ?
thanks.

Tweaking HTC Keyboard. Possible?

Anyone know if it's possible to tweak the qwerty keyboard? I'm coming over from a TP2 and I like the builtin KB that HTC provides, and it should be even nicer on the larger screen, but it's not as handy as it could be. There are extra, blank keys on the 2/2 Numeric pad and I'm wondering if it's possible to add some keys. For instance it would be very handy to have a space key in the numeric pads.

I just upgraded from a TYTN II and i do miss the physical keyboard and i'm not too crazy over the software keyboard mainly because i don't get the tactile feel of pressing the keys.
But have you tried the Swype ? Needs a little getting used to but i'm getting pretty good with Swype and i feel it's a lot faster than typing. Plus it looks pretty cool

Ther are other keyboards. Sorry, I don't recall their name. One was very customizable though. I tired two different ones, but they didn't play nice with predictive text.

I have Resco and I like it well enough, though the version I have doesn't seem to have been built for 800x480 so it doesn't use all of the screen real estate. Therefore the keys are too small.
I like the HTC QWERTY keyboard a lot. It just doesn't seem to be customizable and therefore one has to switch between the screens more than it might otherwise be necessary in order to get the keys you're after. All I really want to do is to be able to enter a space while on the numeric screen. Not move the cursor, but to add an actual space. And to swap a couple of the characters on the 1/2 screen with others on the ABC and 2/2 screens.
Other than that I think it's a great keyboard. The haptic for me provides enough feedback and the keys are plenty big enough. My Leo should be here today or tomorrow and then I can start trying different things. If it turns out Resco's current KB can be made larger then that would probably be just the ticket assuming the HTC KB cannot be customized. I'm not really interested in tryiing Swype, but thanks for the tip.

I would imagine there's an XML keymap somewhere that we could conceivably edit but I'm not sure, i'd like to know the answer as well.

Tref said:
All I really want to do is to be able to enter a space while on the numeric screen. Not move the cursor, but to add an actual space.
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you dont mean THIS space then?