Hi all, I'm new here, bought a GT7.7 few days ago. As i was using ICS on my GT8.9 before (I'm a member of the Galaxian-soup team who made a AOSP ICS rom for GT8.9), the HC feels very slow to me. So my question is why there is no ICS rom for GT7.7? The Galaxy Note has the same SoC as GT7.7, correct? Note has a official Samsung ICS leak, correct? So we should be able to get all needed libs from that rom to make everything work. Am i missing something? Is there some specific problem with GT7.7 that I'm not aware of or are there just no devs here who have tried?
I would try it alone, but unfortunately getting it to run needs some kernel mods and i don't have any experience with kernels. I know what needs to be done, so if there are devs here who have time and are interested, let's work together and make it happen.
Probably because the 7.7 doesn't really have a whole lot of community dev support yet, especially compared to the likes of the Note and the 8.9, both of which have been out for longer.
I would love to see you make one for us. ^^
If i would know how to cook a ICS ROM i already did it ^^
But someday that will happen
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i think it is because da 7.7 just arrive US, and most of custom rom developers are from US, so we dont have much custom rom yet
I have to say I'm not missing ICS on this device - compared to another cheapo Chinese device (Aurora) I'm also using (where ICS is just SLOWWW!), the 7.7 is just right as it is! If ICS slows down the 7.7 then I'm sticking with HC.
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I have to say I'm not missing ICS on this device - compared to another cheapo Chinese device (Aurora) I'm also using (where ICS is just SLOWWW!), the 7.7 is just right as it is! If ICS slows down the 7.7 then I'm sticking with HC.
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I'm missing it. I've been using AOSP ICS on my GT8.9 for two months now and it is a lot faster then HC, especially the browser. The stock browser in GT7.7 is unusable for me.
I will try to build a AOSP ICS rom and see how far i get. Are there any kernel devs here?
I'd be interested in trying to help, but I've never actually done android kernel development. I have set up a build environment to compile the kernel but only to **** around for myself; I've never actually released anything on xda.
I am wondering though, is it actually possible to modify the HC kernel to run a ported ICS ROM? Over in GS2-land I'm pretty sure all the ICS ROMs are running modified, leaked kernels. Even CM9 is using mostly a leaked kernel with repacked initramfs I'm pretty sure.
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I'd be interested in trying to help, but I've never actually done android kernel development. I have set up a build environment to compile the kernel but only to **** around for myself; I've never actually released anything on xda.
I am wondering though, is it actually possible to modify the HC kernel to run a ported ICS ROM? Over in GS2-land I'm pretty sure all the ICS ROMs are running modified, leaked kernels. Even CM9 is using mostly a leaked kernel with repacked initramfs I'm pretty sure.
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Yes, it is possible. For GT8.9 we are using android 3.1 kernel from Samsung (for some reason Samsung has not released android 3.2 kernel source code for GT8.9). Of course it needs to be modified to make hw acceleration, touchscreen etc work.
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Yes, it is possible. For GT8.9 we are using android 3.1 kernel from Samsung (for some reason Samsung has not released android 3.2 kernel source code for GT8.9). Of course it needs to be modified to make hw acceleration, touchscreen etc work.
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Sounds like you need a better kernel dev than me, then. But as others have said, development over here is pretty limited--you could try posting in the dev section, but ezynow is the guy who has posted anything on the kernel side of things. Maybe things will pick up a bit with the VZW release, but to be honest, this is a pretty niche device--I love it and I'm sure most of the people reading this do too, but at the price point it's just never going to be that popular. Here's to hoping.
you need all the updated binary libraries for ICS in addition to the new kernel before installing ICS will be possible
Availability around the world ( aside from Asia ) might be quite low or next to non-existent, its a great device but I've got a feeling it wont get too much of a developer support as samsung just keeps on crunching out new tablets.
OK, i'm confused now. I've been gathering information about the gt7.7 and i have found a lot of conflicting information. Do we have a confirmed partition table information? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21695494&postcount=5 < this looks right to me, can anyone confirm this?
The strange thing is that even the root.zip released here seems to mount the wrong partition, it mounts /dev/block/mmcblk0p4 as system?! To me it looks like the system is mmcblk0p9 or am i wrong?
Are P6800 and P6810 partition tables the same?
No they are not.
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OK, i'm confused now. I've been gathering information about the gt7.7 and i have found a lot of conflicting information. Do we have a confirmed partition table information? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21695494&postcount=5 < this looks right to me, can anyone confirm this?
The strange thing is that even the root.zip released here seems to mount the wrong partition, it mounts /dev/block/mmcblk0p4 as system?! To me it looks like the system is mmcblk0p9 or am i wrong?
Are P6800 and P6810 partition tables the same?
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The partition tables are different and details have been posted elsewhere.
davp has previously posted about the possible error in root.zip as you also have identified. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22650451 There does not appear to be any response by JadeEyedWolf or any others. Whilst it might not be a likely critical problem, it may, at the least, be poor coding.
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I am new the to the GT10.1.. Just wondering why there are no custom roms or anything for it yet?!?
Sorry if I missed the thread telling me why!
jm6001 said:
I am new the to the GT10.1.. Just wondering why there are no custom roms or anything for it yet?!?
Sorry if I missed the thread telling me why!
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So few people have the tablet at the moment, suspect that's the hold up. It still hasn't been released to the rest of the US.
How much can you do without the source code?
There's not much you can do without the source. The xoom only got it's first rom a few days ago and it does not have all that many changes. Once we get the kernel source, we should start seeing some custom kernels(for overclocking and stuff) but that's about it.
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There's not much you can do without the source. The xoom only got it's first rom a few days ago and it does not have all that many changes. Once we get the kernel source, we should start seeing some custom kernels(for overclocking and stuff) but that's about it.
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That's what I figured. I'm sure you can change around a few small things, but for the most part didn't expect what I'd consider a true "custom rom."
Will probably have to wait for Ice Cream Sandwich.
I think we can thank google for that as they have chosen not to release the AOSP for honeycomb. And who knows when samsung will release the kernel source. I would have thought they would have released it by now.
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I think we can thank google for that as they have chosen not to release the AOSP for honeycomb. And who knows when samsung will release the kernel source. I would have thought they would have released it by now.
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I'm not exactly sure what the law is but they will have to release it eventually.. The linux kernel is under the GPL, which means that any modifications to it are, without question, also under the GPL. Therefore, they have to make their version of the kernel open source at some point. Does anyone know how long they have to do so?
Does any one know if the retail version of the galaxy tab have an unlocked boot loader and if can be rooted? cant seem to find that info ne where. if it has a locked bootloader you can forget abt custom roms till the bootloader can be unlocked
I'm just curious what's usually involved. I know cyanogen mod does some custom things but ignoring those customizations, what is involved exactly in porting it to a device?
I would assume the major hurdle is driver support. As in the linux kernel compiled/used has hardware support for device x. But other than that, what else?
For ex, with the nook color, what is needed to port it? We can't expect a recent kernel for the nook color from barnes and nobles, but what about the existing kernel used in cm7?
Or if it's not just a kernel issue what are the issues/hurdles. I'm not a developer but just curious from a layman's point of view.
I would think if a working kernel is ready, wouldn't it be just a matter of compiling? I guess I'm curious as to why some say it takes a month or so.
First we need an upgraded kernel to even think about ICS. Then there will also need to be drivers written/rewritten for hardware acceleration and such. Also many other things that will need to be put together to compile even a semi-working rom.
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I hope by Xmas, CM team will prevail new ROM running ICS.
I don't care it called CM8 or CM9, as long as it's ICS supporting NC, I'm happy
Slight thread-jacking here, but somewhat related:
Kernel wise, what's the difference between an SDK port vs an AOSP port?
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Slight thread-jacking here, but somewhat related:
Kernel wise, what's the difference between an SDK port vs an AOSP port?
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The SDK is used by devs to create apps so only code relevant to having a semi- working simulator is present. AOSP is the full source code, witch includes everything but it is only built for one device, the galaxy nexus, so there is still much work involved in porting.
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There is samsung's ics for galaxy s 2, so is it possible to port it to sgs?
http://www.sammobile.com/2011/12/14/exclsuive-android-4-0-1-by-samsung-for-sgs2-custom/
There are only few features what can be ported to i9000 cause of reallly diffrent pcb used in sgsII.. more realiable is using sources from nexus S when they will be avaible... also if samsung is working on ics for sgsII they can use their resources to made rom for i9000 preaty fast.. and here is one more thing samsung not forgot about us cause of relasing few new roms in past month even yesterday xD
Ok, thanks for your answer. Let's hope that nexus s ics sources comes out soon.
We have ufficial ics from samsung
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there are already very good ports by team hack sung, why bother with those other ones?
Nexus S also as not received the official ICS yet, their ICS ports are weaker than the i9000 ICS ports
quite offtopic answer but team hack sung could make their build more modern.. that means go step further and dont using old kernel resources 2.6.35/7 and go direct to kernels 3.0.8... (they need to port drivers to new api anyway) only nikademus pawtip onecosmic AFAIK(I'm new here in i9000) trying to do sth with it... but i know that kerels 3.0.x works with less laginnes after some time,, its may be cause of many junks and workarounds in obsolete 2.x.x kernels.... thats my point
Yeah as said the ICS builds posted in the Android Development forum would be much better than bloated touchwiz ICS. If you have problems with bugs it's best to be patient until they are fixed.
I'm preparing to be flamed, but I figured I might as well create this thread. Now I know many of you know this, along with the i896 source, is out, but there wasn't a thread for it and the i896 one had issues, so here . Hopefully we can get some development going for those of us that want *shutters* Audience Chip drivers, along with the many features that are present in the i9000 roms.
Just search KK4 on here: https://opensource.samsung.com/index.jsp
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I'm preparing to be flamed, but I figured I might as well create this thread. Now I know many of you know this, along with the i896 source, is out, but there wasn't a thread for it and the i896 one had issues, so here . Hopefully we can get some development going for those of us that want *shutters* Audience Chip drivers, along with the many features that are present in the i9000 roms.
Just search KK4 on here: https://opensource.samsung.com/index.jsp
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Doesn't bother me anymore since now ICS is doing great.
But, if really want to stick with GB(usually MIUI and CyanogenMOD).
I would like:
a.) The Audience Chip thingy.
b.) Battery life.
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Doesn't bother me anymore since now ICS is doing great.
But, if really want to stick with GB(usually MIUI and CyanogenMOD).
I would like:
a.) The Audience Chip thingy.
b.) Battery life.
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What? I'm not making anything. I was informing the community (those who didn't know) of the source code.
nygfan760 said:
What? I'm not making anything. I was informing the community (those who didn't know) of the source code.
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Yea, I know.
I just want to tell AT&T/Samsung is SLOW for their firmware codes sharing... too stingy...
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Doesn't bother me anymore since now ICS is doing great.
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yea I been onICS for 24 hours now ,, its great , but nothing special I see very few differences in anything , except I am missing all of the features I m use to on GB .
imo dotn believe the hype , the only 2 things I like about my current ICS set up is sixstring kernel allows me to OC higher then on sammy rom (not higher then cm7 tho) and the launcher is pretty cool but still not as nice as on the gnex .
Eventho its 2.3.5 I welcome source of KK4
eventho Im 2.3.6 (i9000 base )
I'm looking forward to the more refined kernels the source code release should bring around. Those features we've been missing will now be possible.
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I'm preparing to be flamed, but I figured I might as well create this thread.
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Why? There is already a thread created in General. This is where searching comes in handy.
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Why? There is already a thread created in General. This is where searching comes in handy.
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Saw the thread. It is a discussion thread about the firmware, this thread is to alert people of the actual source code, so we can get new kernels and stuffs Also, aren't most source code threads posted in here? At least for Froyo, and i896 GB, I believe they were.
Audience chip support was already extracted from the I896 gingerbread source kernel. It is available in the i9000 captivate corn kernel. Specifically gave me thanks for being able to introduce audience tip finally.
If you would like Audience support in any other kernels just contact the developer of corn.. A few months ago
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Audience chip support was already extracted from the I896 gingerbread source kernel. It is available in the i9000 captivate corn kernel. Specifically gave me thanks for being able to introduce audience tip finally.
If you would like Audience support in any other kernels just contact the developer of corn.. A few months ago
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I know, I know, I have been running it for a while now.
but im surprised that kk4 was final release. had time-stamp issue.
but now if we can get a unbranded kernel, we can have a complete unbranded rom with the ATT removal mods i posted while back.
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but im surprised that kk4 was final release. had time-stamp issue.
but now if we can get a unbranded kernel, we can have a complete unbranded rom with the ATT removal mods i posted while back.
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I'm pretty sure that problem only happens when you put AT&T software on an i896. I can't say for sure though because both my cappy's are canadian. Anyways I don't think ts a problem with the phone per se.. I think its a network thing. There is no time stamp issue for people on the AT&T network that I know of.
KK4 Source has been available since around Christmas. Some of the I897 kernel devs have been trying to compile a kernel from source but have been running into issues with the kernel not booting which is why you haven't seen any yet.
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I'm pretty sure that problem only happens when you put AT&T software on an i896. I can't say for sure though because both my cappy's are canadian. Anyways I don't think ts a problem with the phone per se.. I think its a network thing. There is no time stamp issue for people on the AT&T network that I know of.
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Its a network AND software issue. Either they can fix the problem though the network, (its been done before) or you can de-compile the MMS.apk and change a line of code to fix the problem.
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KK4 Source has been available since around Christmas. Some of the I897 kernel devs have been trying to compile a kernel from source but have been running into issues with the kernel not booting which is why you haven't seen any yet.
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that was the kh2 rogers i896 source that they were having trouble with.... or are they having trouble with kk4 also???
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Its a network AND software issue. Either they can fix the problem though the network, (its been done before) or you can de-compile the MMS.apk and change a line of code to fix the problem.
that was the kh2 rogers i896 source that they were having trouble with.... or are they having trouble with kk4 also???
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He is a kernel dev but yeah I hope that isn't the problem.
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that was the kh2 rogers i896 source that they were having trouble with.... or are they having trouble with kk4 also???
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Both JSmokey and I haven't been able to get a kernel compiled from the KK4 source that we had gotten around Christmas. Though JSmokey said he did have a working kernel before, but isn't certain what he did to make it not work anymore. I've even tried to compile a stock kernel per the included instructions with no luck...
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Both JSmokey and I haven't been able to get a kernel compiled from the KK4 source that we had gotten around Christmas. Though JSmokey said he did have a working kernel before, but isn't certain what he did to make it not work anymore. I've even tried to compile a stock kernel per the included instructions with no luck...
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Same here, there must be something missing. Pulling a dmsg doesn't give much help, something about wanting sh in /system/bin (I think).
I have moved over to cyanogenmod 7 for now, waiting for cm9. Lots to tinker with there.
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Same here, there must be something missing. Pulling a dmsg doesn't give much help, something about wanting sh in /system/bin (I think).
I have moved over to cyanogenmod 7 for now, waiting for cm9. Lots to tinker with there.
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.... no our original 2.3 kernel dev has given up
Sounds like the only way to get bln is to go to 2.2 or i9000.
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.... no our original 2.3 kernel dev has given up
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Maybe we can ask DG for help. I know he has moved on a long time ago, but recently he came back and helped with ICS kernel development. If he could help us getting KK4 kernel compiled from source, I am sure we will see a lot more ROM development going on.
I've just seen the news about onskreen going multitasking,,,,,,went to download,,,,,,,,,,,but really I don't know what to download and how to use it on my TF101G
As far as i know:
Cornerstone is no app as you understand it. It is something like a "launcher".
The problem is that cornerstone has to be integrated into the os by the manufacturer himself because it has to be integrated deeply into the os.
So you won't see cornerstone on tablets unless a manufacturer decides to implement it.
Or someone takes the AOSP code from google and releases a complete rom. But i think that would be a lot of work. I don't think that someone would do this. It would be awesome to see this im cyanogenmod^^. I mean both are open source now.
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I think I saw someone with a Xoom that has it.. (from Reddit). It would be awesome if we got it too.. I need to learn to make roms in my spare time.
it has to be baked into the rom its not a apk u run
I would love to try this too !
The "simple" way would be to get source from a rom, to integrate it and build the rom. But the integration step is unfortunatly not simply I think :/
Integrating difficulties is just one of the problems... for example Cornerstone requires ICS.. which we don't have.
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Integrating difficulties is just one of the problems... for example Cornerstone requires ICS.. which we don't have.
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First ICS has to come out. Then we will gather our forces, go on our knees and humbly ask any dev to face the challenge and coock rom with Onskreen integrated. It will not be soon, but someday ... Hope never dies...
Since it's under the ASL, I hope that it's included into the official CM9 for the Transformer. If it is not, I'm sure that there will be unofficial CM9 roms with it. Now, Asus, release the ICS update for the Transformer we need the kernel sources and drivers...
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Since it's under the ASL, I hope that it's included into the official CM9 for the Transformer. If it is not, I'm sure that there will be unofficial CM9 roms with it. Now, Asus, release the ICS update for the Transformer we need the kernel sources and drivers...
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Steve Kondid stated he will work to get it into CM9 (that's if it come to the TF).
He has it running on his 10.1
"fat__tire: Just for fun... http://t.co/gLBPGYMW Sorta buggy but sorta cool. #nookcolor #cm9 #cornerstone"
--http://twitter.com/fat__tire/status/169628187347783681
well we got ICS. Anyone working on getting cornerstone working?
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well we got ICS. Anyone working on getting cornerstone working?
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First we need a stable custom rom then we need a normal version and a cornerstone version patience is a virtue
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^^ what he said but the expand on that we need a rom that is fully deodexed or one that has a full source code available so that it can be baked in without signature errors + we need a apk dev and a rom dev (Or one that can do both) to put it all together