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A new SGS2 is on the way, a plus version. Se for yourself :
http://pocketnow.com/android/is-samsung-preparing-a-galaxy-s-ii-plus
I hope to God they don't do it, because everybody is happy with this SGS2, and making the plus version, and then a SGS3 will make fans angry.
I read that the only difference will be that the plus version will have 1.4GHz CPU..
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A new SGS2 is on the way, a plus version. Se for yourself :
http://pocketnow.com/android/is-samsung-preparing-a-galaxy-s-ii-plus
I hope to God they don't do it, because everybody is happy with this SGS2, and making the plus version, and then a SGS3 will make fans angry.
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They will do it. Make some sweet money bet that wont fix camera issues.
looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!
This is def going to happen guys. .its how Samsung works
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Wonderfull !!!!! nice !!!!
If its going to be a + version, I hope it will at least be a higher clocked exynos rather than some crummy snapdragon.
Not that I would buy it either way.
awesome !!!
Lol!! i just cant imagine how the sgs2+ customers will be pissed when sgs3 is launched.... poor fellows, surely there will be some idiots buying this instead of waiting for sgs3
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Lol!! i just cant imagine how the sgs2+ customers will be pissed when sgs3 is launched.... poor fellows, surely there will be some idiots buying this instead of waiting for sgs3
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If one has the money then they should go for it then sell it when the real successor comes out.
But quite pointless in purchasing this if the S3 is looming despite the wait.
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Well,technically speaking,my SGS2 is already better so...
But yeah,that's the point.They might as well make it with a Snapdragon.Although,if it's Qualcomm's S3 and not the S4 processor,it'll be more like the SGS2- instead of + but anyway.
I hope it'll come with the same chipset as the "newer" version of the g nexus. :3
why stupid?
I thought I had to say somethiong about the comments here. first of all I use the sg2+ since a week now. and yes it's really plu. I have a sgs2 and I really see the difference, when it comes to multitasking and web browsing. games runs better and when i wasn't able to run some powerfull games on sgs2, it runs perfect on the "plus" version.. Apart from that, I actually won't say it's a stupid thyought from samsung, a lot of people (like me) are fed up with the size of the screen on new phone like the sgs3 and they rather buy a smaller cell phone, the problem is that it's difficult to find a 4'3 screen with good specs nowaday. I guess that's where the sgs2+ comes in the game, it gives you a up to date phone specs.and a normal screen size. I will pêrsonnaly keep my regular sgs2 because of rom dev, since i think the sgs2+ will not be mod so much. but you can't say it's stupid to make this product, it's niche, but it has its place on the market. And don't forget something, it sells new for 300 euros. And i won't even bother on the materials they use cause it's like ten times better than the sgs3 which look and feel like a cheap plastic phone
Why bump a year old thread? :what:
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great work! how can i deleat the sound of the boot sequence
Wonderful ,, s2 is the most beauty phone from Samsung in my opinion
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jimmymetis said:
I thought I had to say somethiong about the comments here. first of all I use the sg2+ since a week now. and yes it's really plu. I have a sgs2 and I really see the difference, when it comes to multitasking and web browsing. games runs better and when i wasn't able to run some powerfull games on sgs2, it runs perfect on the "plus" version.. Apart from that, I actually won't say it's a stupid thyought from samsung, a lot of people (like me) are fed up with the size of the screen on new phone like the sgs3 and they rather buy a smaller cell phone, the problem is that it's difficult to find a 4'3 screen with good specs nowaday. I guess that's where the sgs2+ comes in the game, it gives you a up to date phone specs.and a normal screen size. I will pêrsonnaly keep my regular sgs2 because of rom dev, since i think the sgs2+ will not be mod so much. but you can't say it's stupid to make this product, it's niche, but it has its place on the market. And don't forget something, it sells new for 300 euros. And i won't even bother on the materials they use cause it's like ten times better than the sgs3 which look and feel like a cheap plastic phone
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Can you please tell me if you could use the same incar holder charger for the s2 + what you can buy for the s2?
Thanks a lot
Look at the voltage mate. Should be fine.
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ansrewwrightt said:
Look at the voltage mate. Should be fine.
-Yes the voltage should be fine they have the same batteries.I was wondering about other things maybe not the same on the body.
I ask because I dont think its correct what the seller said about a carholder product designed for the S2:
"Is this compatible with the Samsung galaxy s2 plus?
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The mount is only designed for the Samsung Galaxy S2 not the Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus."
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Personally, not amused. Didn't raise the bar the way the S2 did. US versions shafted with S4.
And also, I think it's absolutely hideous. "Inspired by pebbles?" Honestly, who could even say that with a straight face. Oval phones are just... not smart.
But all in all, it's probably one "Plus" away from being stunning, but alas, combined with a pretty questionable keynote, I'd say this is overall pretty disappointing. It's still easily one of the best phones on the market, but it's now in a market populated by the HTC One X and the Huawei Ascend D XL, the former which is stunningly beautiful, and the latter has the chance to be even more specs-heavy than the S3.
tl;dr: Samsung pulled a 4s.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAh9frGNulY&feature=related
Personally, not amused. Didn't raise the bar the way the S2 did. US versions shafted with S4.
And also, I think it's absolutely hideous. "Inspired by pebbles?" Honestly, who even say that with a straight face. Oval phones are just... not smart.
But all in all, it's probably one "Plus" away from being stunning, but alas, combined with a pretty questionable keynote, I'd say this is overall pretty disappointing.
tl;dr: Samsung pulled a 4s.
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I actually think is a very nice release!
Cant wait for it to come to the US --
Being tested by tmo already
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Nice device, no doubt.
Is it groundbreaking? Don't know yet, we'd have to see some reviews to determine that.
I will say this, development is going to be through the roof for this phone, just as it with the SGS2.
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Nice device, no doubt.
Is it groundbreaking? Don't know yet, we'd have to see some reviews to determine that.
I will say this, development is going to be through the roof for this phone, just as it with the SGS2.
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Can't say I agree because most of the devs aren't impressed
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When it comes out in the USA, i dont know if im really getting it. Thats what happened when the S2 first came out. It came out around summer 2011 then a couple months later on a october, the tmobile brand t989 was released with upgraded hardware. Maybe the S3 might follow the same route.
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S3 Hardware: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02nIoynGqYg&feature=related
S3 Software: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iknPkDGzsjM&feature=g-all
'Quad-core' is a good marketing term for selling. Minor differences in everyday use in my opinion. You'll notice the difference if you run a benchmark.
I like all the functionality of it.... but I'd like to know from someone who knows:
Will our S2 be able to do all the cool stuff they are showing off with a software upgrade to 4.0.X ? Like the gesture functions, etc... Because our phone can already do most of the stuff they are showing, and the specs are pretty close?
Some of the features they show off will be unique to it, because the S3 uses a new version of Touchwiz that the Galaxy S2 isn't getting. Our ICS update is more a minor update, whereas the S3 gets some unique features. Kind of like HTC adding unique features to Sense 4 versus phones with Sense 3.5, even though both are on ICS.
-the ultimate black dragon-
If the tmobiles version gets turned into the red headed stepchild like the s2 did with changing the processors I'm just gonna go with the note or jump ship to att..
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I like all the functionality of it.... but I'd like to know from someone who knows:
Will our S2 be able to do all the cool stuff they are showing off with a software upgrade to 4.0.X ? Like the gesture functions, etc... Because our phone can already do most of the stuff they are showing, and the specs are pretty close?
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That's touchwiz i wasn't impressed at all. It not even all that special especially since samsung didn't even bother using a15 architecture on their processor. So qualcomm will be in the lead till ti omap is released. The only noticeable feature was picture in picture and that is it. Guess ill be sticking with the nexus line because
all those features are useless. but they can be done with apps which someone will probably do in the future.
The pebbles thing made me chuckle lol
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Meh. Looks nice, but I'll reserve judgment until it arrives at T-Mobile USA. We'll see if it stays the same or becomes a varient that shares nothing but the name, like this one did.
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If the tmobiles version gets turned into the red headed stepchild like the s2 did with changing the processors I'm just gonna go with the note or jump ship to att..
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All usa versions will be the step child because no one be using exynos unless you unlock the device go on at&t. All because of lte/hspa+ on tmobile bands.
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All usa versions will be the step child because no one be using exynos unless you unlock the device go on at&t. All because of lte/hspa+ on tmobile bands.
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Yea that what I meant buy the international unlocked for att but again I wasn't to impressed with it so I'm leaning towards getting the note and riding it out til the next nexus.
i dont like how it looks, i also think that it is too big its almost the same size as the galaxy note. It has a 8mp camera hopefully its not the same ones they put in the galaxy s2. that being said only thing left to really know is hows the battery life.
the next nexus will hopefully be a bit better
I actually love it!
But it only has HSPA +21
No HSPA +42 for us TMO users?
WTF ?
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i dont like how it looks, i also think that it is too big its almost the same size as the galaxy note. It has a 8mp camera hopefully its not the same ones they put in the galaxy s2. that being said only thing left to really know is hows the battery life.
the next nexus will hopefully be a bit better
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Jts actually the same size as this phone. Just remove the bezel space.
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I agree with OP. Pretty much a let down here. Minor upgrades with some gimmicks. It will be the same story all over for us nerds here who want updates. Sure it has nice specs, but development is going to be slow for 6-9 months after the next OS release for android I probably wont own it, I don't need those specs for anything. All games run perfect on dual cores.
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All usa versions will be the step child because no one be using exynos unless you unlock the device go on at&t. All because of lte/hspa+ on tmobile bands.
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false.
If you were wondering about radios, it's launching with HSPA+, but there's an LTE version in the cards.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-is-official/
Hello!
So I was almost ready to buy the Note yesterday when I read that the International is getting CM9 nightlies while the ATT version is not.
So is the custom rom situation for the ATT version really that bad? As you can tell by my sig, I love tweaknig so maybe I am better off saving and buying the international one?
shaolin95 said:
Hello!
So I was almost ready to buy the Note yesterday when I read that the International is getting CM9 nightlies while the ATT version is not.
So is the custom rom situation for the ATT version really that bad? As you can tell by my sig, I love tweaknig so maybe I am better off saving and buying the international one?
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International version has been having a lot of bricking problems related to CWM/Kernel. We have some great AOSP/AOKP roms and devs, but a few are currently out of the picture due to bricked phones. Somewhat concerning for us USA users as there is no way initiate warranty repairs on international phones. (I've tried, no bueno)
Our CM9 version is also somewhat lacking, in my opinion. The kernel being used needs a lot of work and the phone is no where near as responsive as the other i9220 & XXLPY based roms. Unfortunately, it is the only "safe" version of ICS that we can run, currently.
AT&T version may not be a bad decision purely based on warranty. Would certainly hate to give up my exynos chip though!
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International version has been having a lot of bricking problems related to CWM/Kernel. We have some great AOSP/AOKP roms and devs, but a few are currently out of the picture due to bricked phones. Somewhat concerning for us USA users as there is no way initiate warranty repairs on international phones. (I've tried, no bueno)
Our CM9 version is also somewhat lacking, in my opinion. The kernel being used needs a lot of work and the phone is no where near as responsive as the other i9220 & XXLPY based roms. Unfortunately, it is the only "safe" version of ICS that we can run, currently.
AT&T version may not be a bad decision purely based on warranty. Would certainly hate to give up my exynos chip though!
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hahahah all was sounding good towards going with ATT until you dropped that last statement!
So I see , its a bit of a risky device to play with compared to my Captivate.
I wonder how bad stock ICS is...at least if I can overclock it I wont feel too bad.
Is that feasible?
shaolin95 said:
hahahah all was sounding good towards going with ATT until you dropped that last statement!
So I see , its a bit of a risky device to play with compared to my Captivate.
I wonder how bad stock ICS is...at least if I can overclock it I wont feel too bad.
Is that feasible?
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I'd say so I had to swap my note 3 times before i found a screen I was happy with - turned out to be an expensive endeavor. With AT&T you could just swap it under the 30 day return policy (or whatever it currently is) until you get one your happy with.
Screen you were happy with? Is there a problem with screens too? Is it something about black level issues I think I read?
Gosh, my captivate looks so small but I am used to it so now I am getting scared
Basically I was going to get a tablet but I was like..in reality a tablet is something ELSE to carry...a Note...is a phone that I ALWAYS bring with me but happens to be BIG and can act as a small tablet bring a lot of joy
shaolin95 said:
Screen you were happy with? Is there a problem with screens too? Is it something about black level issues I think I read?
Gosh, my captivate looks so small but I am used to it so now I am getting scared
Basically I was going to get a tablet but I was like..in reality a tablet is something ELSE to carry...a Note...is a phone that I ALWAYS bring with me but happens to be BIG and can act as a small tablet bring a lot of joy
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Yeah, I run tablet UI on my note and it is crazy awesome.
My first screen had a few dead & unlit pixels (not super common with these phones) and the second had super bad banding. (which is common) Both may have been fine for some, but drove me bonkers.
If you do sway for the international version, id recommend purchasing a 3rd party warranty. I should have done this with my first note, but didn't know that these services existed. My current note is covered by CPS (http://www.cpscentral.com/) and was not very expensive.
Thanks for the idea mate. I will indeed do that but now I have to look for that banding because I always drool about the black levels of my Captivate so banding in anyway will make me go crazy
shaolin95 said:
Hello!
So I was almost ready to buy the Note yesterday when I read that the International is getting CM9 nightlies while the ATT version is not.
So is the custom rom situation for the ATT version really that bad? As you can tell by my sig, I love tweaknig so maybe I am better off saving and buying the international one?
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You're in the wrong forums, these are not the forums for the AT&T Note, being a COMPLETELY different device they have their own forums.
Personally, I would not go with any AT&T-mangled device - the I777 was the last device to receive decent development due to commonality with international devices. All subsequent devices have been severely mangled.
Well at least the captivate has been nice to me. I will look for its forum to see what the deal is with it.
Why is always the USA messing up the phones damn it.
Also, the ATT Note has LTE. That might be something you want/like if you are in an area that has LTE. I am not so I am perfectly happy with my international note.
I do feel like this thread is kind of relevant though because you are comparing the two Notes and asking about the international note.
shaolin95 said:
Well at least the captivate has been nice to me. I will look for its forum to see what the deal is with it.
Why is always the USA messing up the phones damn it.
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Mr shaolin! I remember you from my captivate days if you're gonna pick up a Note then definitely get the international, man I am straight up in love with this device
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Reynaldinho111 said:
Mr shaolin! I remember you from my captivate days if you're gonna pick up a Note then definitely get the international, man I am straight up in love with this device
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Sup mate
yeah it looks like the International is the riskier one but with lots more chances of tweaking and roms
shaolin95 said:
Sup mate
yeah it looks like the International is the riskier one but with lots more chances of tweaking and roms
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Better user experience trumps everything, and it is better on the international Note. I played with the AT&T models but they were just so slow!
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I was so set on the GS3 but then I see the monster in person and and compared them and I was like...if the GS3 will end up being a dual core in the states..or even at quadcore..I think I will get more use out of the bigger screen than quadcores except for benching lol
FWIW, I was considering a tablet previous to buying a note. The note has fulfilled that role for me as well as that of a phone. Real dual purpose device unless you have strong needs for a tiny phone or large tablet.
Thanks. That is exactly why I got so interested in it after dreaming about a GS3 for so long LOL
This should interest you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657244
shaolin95 said:
Sup mate
yeah it looks like the International is the riskier one but with lots more chances of tweaking and roms
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The N7000 is not risky at all, just DON'T do what you are NOT supposed to do. Like use a kernel with I/O bug (ICS leaks). If you want to CM9 then there is no problems with that kernel. We also have a very good MIUI port.
About the screen, no problems with mine at all, its a beautiful amoled screen.
Forget about crappy AT&T Frankensteins, and go for the Oficial Note (N7000) and enjoy what samsung design for you (Exynos )
I dont know if anyone else read the article on androidandme with some marketing guy for Samsung, but it was extremely disappointing. He acknowledges that Samsung needed to put out the best possible specifications to "decimate" the competition when they released the GS2. And now the market has changed and there are too many good spec phones out so now the market needs a phone with an amazing "experience".
To me this sounds like Sammy has abandoned the huge cult of people that bought the SII and made the company what it is today in the smartphone market. Instead they've turned their attention to trying to attract iPhone customers,
I dont know about you, but I love walking around with my Galaxy SII and slamming iPhone 4 users for not having the specs to compete. and slamming 4S users for having the specs and lacking the freedom to do anything with it.
I can't imagine going back to iPhone, everyone in my family owns one, and I'm responsible for it. I was an iPhone fanboy, which i dont regret. I have to admit iPhone ushered in the touchscreen era. But its us, the early iPhone adopters, who first felt the need for more and moved on to better things. We went to Samsung because of their track record, knowing that they were the ones supplying the iphone with hardware. And boy did they get it right, the Galaxy S2 needs no introduction. Its revered for its spectacular spec sheet, and even more, for its tremendous following (and it doesn't hurt that most of them are on XDA ).
So instead of catering to the people that were ahead of the curve, the ones that got sick of the iPhone and bought the SII, they left us hanging out to dry.
IMO this is why the S III is a disappointing FAIL, at least for the users that have ever found the need for a visit to XDA. This isnt to say that I wont buy the S3, I will... but I wont sell my S2. And that says a lot I think, it says that early adopters will always be early adopters. And the S2 wouldn't have been such a hit if it weren't for us replenishing the well. It definately wasnt a hit because of the "marketing department" at Samsung. [I dont remember ever seeing an S2 ad before buying it ]
And that's what shocks me most, instead of drilling deeper into the well, someone at Samsung convinced the company to drill a new well right next to Apple's.
Samsung, you're not Apple, you cant sell "magic", and you shouldn't want to because only stupid people believe in magic. You're customers are smart, we bought the SII because it was the 'shizzle' no matter how you put it. Focus on the hardware, innovate the cpu, camera, ram, screen [HD Super AMOLED PLUS!!!!!!!!!], build materials and design, then software [because we're gonna rip it out anyways, ]. Leave the selling to us, I made everyone in my family buy iPhones, and that includes extended family, relatives and friends. and guess what, now they're all buying Galaxy S II's because of me. I'm sure I'm not the only one like this or else the SII wouldnt have been such a hit. Focus on what we can sell, not what your marketing needs to help them sell [cheap gimmicks that may or may not catch on]
I'll leave it by saying this, "Samsung, let Apple worry about selling magic to the masses, you should worry about making products that sell themselves."
BTW guys, no boycott intended or anything like that. P.S. Dont hesitate to place your vote on the pole above, I think its interesting to see what SII owners think.
...I have to say that after reading some replies by people who have handled it, I'm getting a better idea about the S3. I'm even starting to think its underestimated, which is enticing to me for some reason. I'm glad to say that some of you guys are starting to shed some light on the things that Samsung left out. ie. Apparently the camera sensor is swapped for a capable low light shooter, and the video is greatly improved. This is what I really want hear keep it coming.
What?!
Seriously, I understood nothing you just wrote.
What does Apple have to do with Samsung releasing Galaxy S3?
Why is Galaxy S3 a failure and made for "Iphone costumers"? S3 is nothing like Iphone.
In fact, Samsung took all the measures to make it look a lot different than it's competitor, mostly to avoid more legal rights.
I agree with you galaxy s3 is sucks in design but it's free from any copyrights infringement that might somehow happen in the future (design, etc.).
I have a quote
"if you're smart you'll choose superior device with better hardware, higher utility, and more freedom rather than a "fruit" device..."
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What?!
This must be the biggest nonsense I've read on XDA.
Seriously, I understood nothing you just wrote.
What does Apple have to do with Samsung releasing Galaxy S3?
Why is Galaxy S3 a failure and made for "Iphone costumers"? S3 is nothing like Iphone.
In fact, Samsung took all the measures to make it look a lot different than it's competitor, mostly to avoid more legal rights.
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Thats cool, i respect your opinion . I dont mind, I just wanted take a pulse reading to see if anyone else noticed what I was seeing.
Btw, do you own an SII?
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I agree with you galaxy s3 is sucks in design but it's free from any copyrights infringement that might somehow happen in the future (design, etc.).
I have a quote
"if you're smart you'll choose superior device with better hardware, higher utility, and more freedom rather than a "fruit" device..."
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I actually think the design is prolly the best thing about the phone, but mainly I'm referring to the direction that Samsung took with the phone
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Thats cool, i respect your opinion . I dont mind, I just wanted take a pulse reading to see if anyone else noticed what I was seeing.
Btw, do you own an SII?
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Yes, I have an SII. I won't buy SIII though because I'm out of money and this phone cost A LOT in Brazil (mostly 2x more than other countries).
Sorry if I sounded a bit rude on the other post.
MaKTaiL said:
Yes, I have an SII. I won't buy SIII though because I'm out of money and this phone cost A LOT in Brazil (mostly 2x more than other countries).
Sorry if I sounded a bit rude on the other post.
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No worries man, no offense taken.
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No worries man, no offense taken.
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So, I read your text one more time. Tell me if I'm right:
So you are saying that Samsung should have included all those new software features on Galaxy S2 instead of releasing a new Hardware that, despite being "better", Galaxy S2 can still run everything without the added power.
Samsung should have made a better support for S2 instead of moving on to the next generation. Is that right?
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So, I read your text one more time. Tell me if I'm right:
So you are saying that Samsung should have included all those new software features on Galaxy S2 instead of releasing a new Hardware that, despite being "better", Galaxy S2 can still run everything without the added power.
Samsung should have made a better support for S2 instead of moving on to the next generation. Is that right?
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Actually no, what i meant was that I like that Samsung made some improvements in the software, but I dont like that it prioritized the things that made the S2 great, so low on its list. I feel like samsung's priorities are: Marketing>Software>Design>hardware. Where it should have been: Hardware[Screen+camera+cpu+gpu.etc]>Design[not bad on the S3]>Software[not bad on the S3]>marketing. They should have spent less money on marketing because it was already the most anticipated phone, and devoting more money on developing and releasing new hardware [newer gen dual core might be better than the old gen quad core, people dont watch movies and surf the net simultaneously on their phones, although it is a cool feature], and design [already not bad, maybe more futuristic materials, perhaps even waterproofing?]. And it shouldn't have been that hard to know this, the world's blogs were bustling with hopes for the S3
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Actually no, what i meant was that I like that Samsung made some improvements in the software, but I dont like that it prioritized the things that made the S2 great, so low on its list. I feel like samsung's priorities are: Marketing>Software>Design>hardware. Where it should have been: Hardware[Screen+camera+cpu+gpu.etc]>Design[not bad on the S3]>Software[not bad on the S3]>marketing. They should have spent less money on marketing because it was already the most anticipated phone, and devoting more money on developing and releasing new hardware [newer gen dual core might be better than the old gen quad core, people dont watch movies and surf the net simultaneously on their phones, although it is a cool feature], and design [already not bad, maybe more futuristic materials, perhaps even waterproofing?]. And it shouldn't have been that hard to know this, the world's blogs were bustling with hopes for the S3
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Ohhhh, now I'm getting it.
Well, IMO they were focusing on a little bit better hardware to lower the price.
S2 is already a very fast device, improving it even more wouldn't make much sense.
Yes, improving hardware is a must for newer devices, but improving it too much wouldn't be necessary in my opinion.
It would increase the price too much and for me the biggest advantage of the Galaxy series (and Android for that matter) is the price.
Iphone has much lower specs and it still very expensive. I would never spent my money on it, even if I had enough to buy 100.
But I understood your point.
However I think Samsung focusing on improving the Software was a must.
Touchwiz 5 included a lot of custom rom's features that no company has ever included before like battery percentage, customizable lockscreen widget bar and notification window, etc.
These things would only be possible on custom roms like Cyanogen for instance.
It's great that they finally understood why people felt the need to root their phones and decided to include these famous features on the stock firmware.
I only wish that Touchwiz 5, at least part of it, came to Galaxy S2 at some point.
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Ohhhh, now I'm getting it.
Well, IMO they were focusing on a little bit better hardware to lower the price.
S2 is already a very fast device, improving it even more wouldn't make much sense.
Yes, improving hardware is a must for newer devices, but improving it too much wouldn't be necessary in my opinion.
It would increase the price too much and for me the biggest advantage of the Galaxy series (and Android for that matter) is the price.
Iphone has much lower specs and it still very expensive. I would never spent my money on it, even if I had enough to buy 100.
But I understood your point though.
However I think Samsung focusing on improving the Software was a must.
Touchwiz 5 included a lot of custom rom's features that no company has ever included before like battery percentage, customizable lockscreen widget bar and notification window, etc.
These things would only be possible on custom roms like Cyanogen for instance.
It's great that they finally understood why people felt the need to root their phones and decided to include these famous features on the stock firmware.
I only wish that Touchwiz 5, at least part of it, came to Galaxy S2 at some point.
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you make a good point, I know that what your saying is right. Price being important and all, and I will always appreciate software improvements [samsung does it well, the difference between touch 3 and 4 and now 5 is in the right direction]. but in terms of pricing i had hoped that due to samsung being the source of its hardware, that it would enable it to pass the savings on. whereas apple still has to buy all of its parts, which partly explains the price.
Customers had lot of expectation for S3...
They would have given 12Mp cam
2GB Ram...Rest of the hardware is good.
Display would have been bit better one.
There is no much diffrence from S2....
I will wait for S4 or Next Nexus release by december 2012
Well, let's wait and see what others think about this.
I gotta go now, it's 1:04 AM here in Brazil and I have to wake up early tomorrow. See ya!
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lvvine said:
Customers had lot of expectation for S3...
They would have given 12Mp cam
2GB Ram...Rest of the hardware is good.
Display would have been bit better one.
There is no much diffrence from S2....
I will wait for S4 or Next Nexus release by december 2012
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I will wait and see if Samsung will ever release TW5 on S2.
If not, I will have to buy S3 at some point. I loved the new features and customizations.
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Well, let's wait and see what others think about this.
I gotta go now, it's 1:04 AM here in Brazil and I have to wake up early tomorrow. See ya!
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I will wait and see if Samsung will ever release TW5 on S2.
If not, I will have to buy S3 at some point. I loved the new features and customizations.
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Take care bro, i hit your thanks button, its always fun talking to ppl that know what theyre talkin bout.
lvvine said:
Customers had lot of expectation for S3...
They would have given 12Mp cam
2GB Ram...Rest of the hardware is good.
Display would have been bit better one.
There is no much diffrence from S2....
I will wait for S4 or Next Nexus release by december 2012
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vote on my pole, id appreciate your vote
s.alkari said:
Actually no, what i meant was that I like that Samsung made some improvements in the software, but I dont like that it prioritized the things that made the S2 great, so low on its list. I feel like samsung's priorities are: Marketing>Software>Design>hardware. Where it should have been: Hardware[Screen+camera+cpu+gpu.etc]>Design[not bad on the S3]>Software[not bad on the S3]>marketing. They should have spent less money on marketing because it was already the most anticipated phone, and devoting more money on developing and releasing new hardware [newer gen dual core might be better than the old gen quad core, people dont watch movies and surf the net simultaneously on their phones, although it is a cool feature], and design [already not bad, maybe more futuristic materials, perhaps even waterproofing?]. And it shouldn't have been that hard to know this, the world's blogs were bustling with hopes for the S3
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The problem is that you are speaking from the POV of a techie who knows his stuff. I myself was hoping for a dual core Krait/A15, however even Samsung said the average consumer will choose a quad core A9 over a dual core Krait/A15. So Samsung knows that the average consumer are idiots. LOL. (Rather like the people who think that a V12 Mustang is more powerful than a V6 Nissan GT-R)
The thing is software is one of the most oft criticised things about the S2. I have heard fruit users complain that its hard to use (whether they truly find it like that or its fanboyism I can't tell). Its good that they are working on the software front because software is just as important as hardware. If Samsung can convince a fruit user is just a intuitive as a fruit then its a victory.
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The problem is that you are speaking from the POV of a techie who knows his stuff. I myself was hoping for a dual core Krait/A15, however even Samsung said the average consumer will choose a quad core A9 over a dual core Krait/A15. So Samsung knows that the average consumer are idiots. LOL. (Rather like the people who think that a V12 Mustang is more powerful than a V6 Nissan GT-R)
The thing is software is one of the most oft criticised things about the S2. I have heard fruit users complain that its hard to use (whether they truly find it like that or its fanboyism I can't tell). Its good that they are working on the software front because software is just as important as hardware. If Samsung can convince a fruit user is just a intuitive as a fruit then its a victory.
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Well put my man, I guessed as much regarding the cpu. I guess I'm like a teacher's pet, who loves the teacher, but the teacher keeps putting me on back burners because some kids need more attention. I dont know if that makes any sense, all i know is that I would have liked to see Sammy give the people that appreciate their devices some more love, instead of trying to convince other users to love them.
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The problem is that you are speaking from the POV of a techie who knows his stuff. I myself was hoping for a dual core Krait/A15, however even Samsung said the average consumer will choose a quad core A9 over a dual core Krait/A15. So Samsung knows that the average consumer are idiots. LOL. (Rather like the people who think that a V12 Mustang is more powerful than a V6 Nissan GT-R)
The thing is software is one of the most oft criticised things about the S2. I have heard fruit users complain that its hard to use (whether they truly find it like that or its fanboyism I can't tell). Its good that they are working on the software front because software is just as important as hardware. If Samsung can convince a fruit user is just a intuitive as a fruit then its a victory.
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you really hit the nail on the head for me, i had to thank button you
you got a vote for me?
in what way this thread is related to s2???? it should be either in s3 thread or in general!!
People always have higher expectation , it will never be possible for any company to satsify all.
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Well put my man, I guessed as much regarding the cpu. I guess I'm like a teacher's pet, who loves the teacher, but the teacher keeps putting me on back burners because some kids need more attention. I dont know if that makes any sense, all i know is that I would have liked to see Sammy give the people that appreciate their devices some more love, instead of trying to convince other users to love them.
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Lol personally I'm feeling the urge for a new device so I will most likely be getting the S3. Then when my contract ends in October I will get the iPhone 5, sell it, and get whatever Nexus is out at that moment.
The other source of my disappointment is the camera on the S3. At least its a new sensor, but I wish they put a bright aperture lens on that... My S2 struggles in low light. Well, not that the One X doesn't even with it's F2.0, from what I hear.
Again, the S3 is a mass market phone. With the HTC One X screaming "FIRST TO QUAD CORE" it would be hard for Samsung to scream back "DUAL CORE KRAIT WITH MUCH HIGHER IPC AND 28NM PROCESS". The average Joe just won't get it.
I was wondering which phone will have more options for ROMs and the like, because after seeing that s4 keynote, I was pretty off put by all of the gimmicky features, while the One seems pretty cool. Any advice?
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Wait and see
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Ecf17 said:
I was wondering which phone will have more options for ROMs and the like, because after seeing that s4 keynote, I was pretty off put by all of the gimmicky features, while the One seems pretty cool. Any advice?
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Way too early to tell on either front. I suspect both will have great options to be honest, they are both likely to be very popular.
Speculation only, the GS4 will sadly probably have a larger user base and hence larger development base, but quantity does not equal quality.
Personally I wouldn't let whatever minor difference there sway your decision either way, and would base the decision on specs and features useful to you.
I don't know about Roms quality, we have to see but i'm pretty sure that the S IV is gonna be so easy to root unlike the One that you have to deal with that HTC dev.
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I don't know about Roms quality, we have to see but i'm pretty sure that the S IV is gonna be so easy to root unlike the One that you have to deal with that HTC dev.
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lol what's so hard with HTC dev? It's just a matter of doing a couple of copy pastes on your browser and the command prompt for once in the device's lifetime then off you go. I don't find it hard at all.
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lol what's so hard with HTC dev? It's just a matter of doing a couple of copy pastes on your browser and the command prompt for once in the device's lifetime then off you go. I don't find it hard at all.
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It is "harder" than rooting a samsung phone. Definitely not for noobs. And then you have to fastboot flash kernels most of the time. It's easier on a samsung phone, that's a fact.
Maybe u should get Xperia Z... Sony is more hack friendly with the unlock bootloader service and sources...
It has an open bootloader like it's predecessors. So installing custom firmwares via Odin will be possible.
Unlike HTC or Sony phones, you don't have to unlock it first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK4Q47PJAU0
(The video is in german, but you can see the download mode.)
barondebxl said:
It is "harder" than rooting a samsung phone. Definitely not for noobs. And then you have to fastboot flash kernels most of the time. It's easier on a samsung phone, that's a fact.
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A 5 year old could root a Samsung phone. Plug it in, open ODIN, throw in the file, click START..... Done. Wasn't a fan when rooting the wife's HTC Inspire 4g. Her new Note2 was a piece of cake (just like my 3 galaxy devices!).
Plus.... Chainfire is great with Samsung devices!!
Samsung phones are much easier to root and play with. Also you have to try real hard to hard brick a Samsung phone.
As for the ROM development quality I can speak about my experience having owned the EVO 4G, EVO 3D, One X, Galaxy S2, Skyrocket, S3, Note, Note 2. To me it seems Touchwiz is much less intrusive than Sense on the Android OS as a whole. Seems sense devs usually have to play with the rom base longer than Touchwiz devs. Also using the example of the S3, a slew of mods/tweaks are actually compatible across all the different variants of the S3. Another thing I noticed (not bashing the work of Sense Devs) there is a different quality of devs working on Samsung devices here on xda. This especially shows on the international versions of the phones.
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too early to say..
out of all the gimmicks presented yesterday air is the only thing might be useful..
pretty much, easy to root and replaceable battery vs better build quality , camera , and beats.
everything else more or less the same..
AW: HTC one or GS4 in terms of hackability, and quality of roms
But on the other side Exynos is not open source and Samsungs support wasn't that good on S3.
If you really want a phone with good support buy a Sony, but not from your provider (locked).
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But on the other side Exynos is not open source and Samsungs support wasn't that good on S3.
If you really want a phone with good support buy a Sony, but not from your provider (locked).
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ahm12 said:
too early to say..
out of all the gimmicks presented yesterday air is the only thing might be useful..
pretty much, easy to root and replaceable battery vs better build quality , camera , and beats.
everything else more or less the same..
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How do you know the camera is better?
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A 5 year old could root a Samsung phone. Plug it in, open ODIN, throw in the file, click START..... Done. Wasn't a fan when rooting the wife's HTC Inspire 4g. Her new Note2 was a piece of cake (just like my 3 galaxy devices!).
Plus.... Chainfire is great with Samsung devices!!
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