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The more I read (which is entirely too much lately), the more it seems that the SG2 is going to take a long time to have an "official" release in the US. I try to put myself in the position of there possibly being two different consumers (one for the Infuse and one for the SG2). Unfortunately, I don't think there is a "need" for both devices. It really seems counterproductive for AT&T to release the SG2 so soon after the release of the Infuse.
Call me paranoid but, I would REALLY like to have a phone that isn't a gray item (for warranty). I have faith in the hardware but you never know with electronics.
Anyone have an opinion on it? I have an iP4 which is perfectly fine. I just REALLY want to get an Android device and would prefer to stay on AT&T (service locally is good, and I am on an unlimited data plan).
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The more I read (which is entirely too much lately), the more it seems that the SG2 is going to take a long time to have an "official" release in the US. I try to put myself in the position of there possibly being two different consumers (one for the Infuse and one for the SG2). Unfortunately, I don't think there is a "need" for both devices. It really seems counterproductive for AT&T to release the SG2 so soon after the release of the Infuse.
Call me paranoid but, I would REALLY like to have a phone that isn't a gray item (for warranty). I have faith in the hardware but you never know with electronics.
Anyone have an opinion on it? I have an iP4 which is perfectly fine. I just REALLY want to get an Android device and would prefer to stay on AT&T (service locally is good, and I am on an unlimited data plan).
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If your iphone is in good shape and unlocked, sell on ebay for loads of cash. Purchase a sgs2 for 700-750. Still will be able to use your unlimited plan.
But I really dont see SGS2 on ATT anytime soon.
I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
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I'm leaning on taking the dive early. And wicked car in your sig.
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You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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You'd be wrong, twice. It does indeed work on AT&Ts 3G/"4G" bands [unlocked]. Its also called the Motorola Atrix 4G, not the attic. While quick, MotoBLUR is garbage.
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I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
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There's an announcement planned, yes. However, it could easily be for the AT&T branded Nexus S or one of the new tablets.
To those of us who care about hardware the phones (Infuse and SG2) are definitely worlds apart. However to Joe Consumer who doesn't know or care about hardware specs, I don't think it will matter.
The wife keeps giving me the evil-eye when I mention ordering one from the UK. I think I'm wearing her down though
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You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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I've messed with an Atrix. Seemed OK. Not spectacular though. I have a friend who actually returned his for the HTC Inspire (and loves it). That doesn't speak well to me. Plus EVERYTHING I've seen about the SG2 proves it's definitely the cat's meow (currently).
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I'm leaning on taking the dive early. And wicked car in your sig.
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Appreciate it, friend.
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There's an announcement planned, yes. However, it could easily be for the AT&T branded Nexus S or one of the new tablets.
To those of us who care about hardware the phones (Infuse and SG2) are definitely worlds apart. However to Joe Consumer who doesn't know or care about hardware specs, I don't think it will matter.
The wife keeps giving me the evil-eye when I mention ordering one from the UK. I think I'm wearing her down though
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It's not just about the specs, those specs translate into REAL world performance differences. The SGSII has not even had the slightest hiccup with web browsing... regardless of how many windows are open, how many graphics are in each window, etc. My SGS, while great when it came out, easily got bogged down, and multi-window browsing was never a truly usable feature. Given the Infuse is has almost identical specs to an SGS, I predict it will have similar issues.
People keep thinking these specs being listed off are only for geeks, but once in a while, they do relate to real world usability and performance differences. And when they do, they are QUITE significant.
The title of your thread almost gave me a heart attack thinking there was some type of major technical issue uncovered. My SGS2 arrives tomorrow. More appropriate title would be "AT&T-branded phone not looking good in the U.S."
I guarantee you several hundred thousand of the 3MM presales are destined for AT&T. If you poke around the technical sites, the general consensus is a 4G version for VZW followed by AT&T this year. Nobody's even mentioning Sprint or T-Mobile. Depending on the timing, the SGS2 could be AT&T's first LTE phone. I haven't seen any updates on their LTE status but I'm guessing they're pushing to get something up quickly to show the world they'll be as good as VZW in the long run.
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The title of your thread almost gave me a heart attack thinking there was some type of major technical issue uncovered. My SGS2 arrives tomorrow. More appropriate title would be "AT&T-branded phone not looking good in the U.S."
I guarantee you several hundred thousand of the 3MM presales are destined for AT&T. If you poke around the technical sites, the general consensus is a 4G version for VZW followed by AT&T this year. Nobody's even mentioning Sprint or T-Mobile. Depending on the timing, the SGS2 could be AT&T's first LTE phone. I haven't seen any updates on their LTE status but I'm guessing they're pushing to get something up quickly to show the world they'll be as good as VZW in the long run.
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Sorry about the startle. I changed the title of the thread.
I am just frustrated (as are many I'm sure). I'd like to offload my iP4 before the value drops too much (iP5 release). Unfortunately, I'm unable to go without a phone and I am really nervous about a gray market item. Hell even an unbranded Samsung direct phone would work for me. I'm going to have to pay full price anyhow.
Yeah, I think ATT will get the SGS2 with LTE.
Use the fuzzy math I used to convince myself the phone was only $475. $800 - $325 (sold G2) = $475 Can you really put a price on whipping your phone out and gathering a crowd around to see it for a couple of months? My take on buying an import is you spin the wheel and take your chances. If you buy it in the UK, Samsung U.S. will service it. If you buy from Expansys they'll ship it back to the UK for you for service. How long you're without a phone is probably the biggest concern. If you use a credit card with buyers and/or warranty protection you'd have a back-up that will at least get you your money back. Go ahead, you know you want to do it
The event is NOT for the Nexus S for AT&T. Otherwise it would be an event WITH AT&T, not an independent Samsung event.
Hang in there OP. I am in the same boat. I refuse to replace my iPhone 4 with a $750 phone that will be $500 through my carrier. That's $250 in my pocket. Another $250 and I can buy one for my wife
I bet the event is for sgs2 variants. Nexus s doesn't warrant a bug event just like here in Canada it came quietly on all carriers. No big announcements. Many peope don't even know it lol.
The phone is been out a month and is at&t compatible. The event is def. about something more exciting
I'm in the same boat here, too. However after my experience with the Captivate, and the shoddy quality control of its hardware, and the still-present GPS woes and color-banding issues on the SGS II, it seems Samsung rushed yet another product to market and perhaps these extra couple months we'll have to wait will be well worth it in the end.
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The event is NOT for the Nexus S for AT&T. Otherwise it would be an event WITH AT&T, not an independent Samsung event.
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Could be the Tab 8.9 though.
I was wondering what could be that of the SGS II that recently went through the FCC with AT&T only bands?
I hoping the announcement on the 25th will be that Samsung will sell the GS II unlocked in the states and working on AT&T's network just like Google does sell their Nexus phones.
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Hang in there OP. I am in the same boat. I refuse to replace my iPhone 4 with a $750 phone that will be $500 through my carrier. That's $250 in my pocket. Another $250 and I can buy one for my wife
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Do you really think it will be $500 subsidized??? There goes my dream of getting it through AT&T!!! The company only pays up to $100 for a new phone so $400 more is hefty *sob*
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Do you really think it will be $500 subsidized??? There goes my dream of getting it through AT&T!!! The company only pays up to $100 for a new phone so $400 more is hefty *sob*
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Go to "USA May 24th announcement" thread to discuss this, I think I mentioned pricing there, or I may be wrong.
I think there is no way the phone will be more than $250 with a 2 year contract on AT&T. My opinion (based on 12 years of buying AT&T phones on 4 lines) it will be around $250, before or after $50 mail-in rebate, depending on when it is getting released. Maybe just straight forward $200 with no rebates if it is released in the fall.
If I buy an unlocked version for AT&T where is the best place to buy one? I would want one with a warranty first and foremost. Also, is the home button one that goes out easily? Will the phone run as fast as the one that will come out on AT&T officially? I wouldn't want to spend a ton of money on an unlocked one to find out it's slower than the one that AT&T puts out for hundreds of dollars cheaper.
Next is what about warranty. How safe am I buying unlocked? I have read a lot on this board about yellow stains and stuck pixels. How common are these to get? I don't want to buy a phone that's so much money to be stuck with these problems.
Thanks all
AJ
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If I buy an unlocked version for AT&T where is the best place to buy one? I would want one with a warranty first and foremost.
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Expansys-USA provides warranty support for phones they sell meaning they'll ship it back to the UK if it needs service. If you buy it from an authorized dealer in the U.K. it's covered by Samsung's two-year global warranty. Regardless, count on being without your phone for a couple of weeks if it needs repair. If you're looking for the safety and security of a direct replacement overnighted from your carrier and loss/theft coverage importing a phone probably isn't for you.
Also, is the home button one that goes out easily?
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It seems sturdy and I don't think there were problems with the SGS1 which utilized a home button also.
Will the phone run as fast as the one that will come out on AT&T officially? I wouldn't want to spend a ton of money on an unlocked one to find out it's slower than the one that AT&T puts out for hundreds of dollars cheaper.
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Unless the AT&T version has an upgraded processor then it wouldn't be any faster. T-Mobile is getting a version with the same Qualcomm chip as the Sensation which hasn't benchmarked well. The leaked pics of Sprint's version appears to be a real SGS2. Nothing specific's been posted about AT&T's version so it could be a 4.3" display with an Exynos chip or a 4.5" display with a Qualcomm chip. They just announced there first LTE phone won't be out until the end of the year and code for AT&T's LTE network was found in one of the latest ROMs. This means their SGS2 might not come out for a while or they'll be releasing it sooner as an HSPA+ phone vs. an LTE phone.
Next is what about warranty. How safe am I buying unlocked? I have read a lot on this board about yellow stains and stuck pixels. How common are these to get?
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There have been some QC issues with the screen and some variances in color temperature from device to device. If you but if from Expansys exchanging it would be fairly simple. If you buy it in the UK it'll cost you shipping. Stay away from Handtec, they were hassling people on display related exchanges.
You have been very helpful my friend. What would you do? Would you wait for AT&T? Or would you buy unlocked? I have also heard a rumor that AT&T is going to go with the 4.5 inch screen size is that true?
What about Newegg? Are they any good?
Thank you for your time.
AJ
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You have been very helpful my friend. What would you do? Would you wait for AT&T? Or would you buy unlocked? I have also heard a rumor that AT&T is going to go with the 4.5 inch screen size is that true?
What about Newegg? Are they any good?
Thank you for your time.
AJ
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Newegg doesn't give you a warranty with the phone and I also seen a lot of people saying it comes without a seal if that means anything.
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You have been very helpful my friend. What would you do? Would you wait for AT&T? Or would you buy unlocked? I have also heard a rumor that AT&T is going to go with the 4.5 inch screen size is that true?
What about Newegg? Are they any good?
Thank you for your time.
AJ
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I would get international version for faster updates or bug fixes. You get to have SGS2 before many people.
Also, is HSPA+ phone as fast as the LTE phone? Will I even notice that big of a difference?
So newegg is a no go. I checked out Expansys-US and it looks legit.
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Also, is HSPA+ phone as fast as the LTE phone? Will I even notice that big of a difference?
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LTE only matters if you plan on keeping the phone for a long time. AT&T's only going to have 15 markets up this year. If you get an international phone you can get fake-4G for $10 a month. LTE, while faster, is $30 for 2GB of data and $10 per GB beyond that. And you can't tether at that price. I stream video and tether a tablet and have had no speed issues and I'm in a 3G market.
You sound really paranoid about getting an international phone. You need to think hard about the downside.
- Warranty work will easily take weeks.
- You can buy accident insurance from SquareTrade for $94 for two years but you can't get theft/loss protection.
- If there are QC defects out of the box it'll be a pain to exchange the phone.
The upside is you can get cheap unlimited data (via AT&T), upgrades directly from Samsung, and there's no carrier molestation with crap added or functions stripped out.
Personally, if AT&T gets the same phone T-Mobile is (4.5" display/Qualcomm chip), I'd skip it. Without the Exynos chip the 4.5" phone is an SGS2 for marketing purposes only.
Not paranoid just getting all of the facts. Is the att version going to be 4.5?
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Not paranoid just getting all of the facts. Is the att version going to be 4.5?
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Nobody knows yet...
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Why don't you just buy from Amazon? I did today and it will be here tomorrow...
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-i9100...uchscreen/dp/B004QTBQ2C/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header
ericshmerick said:
Why don't you just buy from Amazon? I did today and it will be here tomorrow...
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-i9100...uchscreen/dp/B004QTBQ2C/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header
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+1 that's what I did and it shipped extremely fast
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ericshmerick said:
Why don't you just buy from Amazon? I did today and it will be here tomorrow...
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-i9100...uchscreen/dp/B004QTBQ2C/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header
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No warranty. Also, their phones have been sourced from some strange places including Russia. If you're going to mod the phone than where it's from is less important.
BarryH_GEG said:
No warranty. Also, their phones have been sourced from some strange places including Russia. If you're going to mod the phone than where it's from is less important.
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So do any models actually have a real US warranty? (I.e. Not the Expansys deal).
I didn't think Samsung offers any US warranty coverage since the GSII hasn't been produced for the US.
I saw the "International Warranty" model on Amazon but no one can prove it's actually warranted...they just assume it's covered in the US.
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So do any models actually have a real US warranty? (I.e. Not the Expansys deal).
I didn't think Samsung offers any US warranty coverage since the GSII hasn't been produced for the US.
I saw the "International Warranty" model on Amazon but no one can prove it's actually warranted...they just assume it's covered in the US.
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If you send a phone to Samsung for repair they'll ask for a copy of the invoice and possibly a credit card statement if they're suspicious about the authenticity of the invoice. Any phone purchased outside it's intended market of sale is considered grey market and therefore has no warranty. Same thing for purchasing it from a retailer not authorized by Samsung. Since no model of the SGS2 is intended for sale in the U.S. buying it from anyone in the U.S. means it has no warranty - no matter what the seller might tell you. Supposedly, because the warranty is considered global, a properly purchased UK phone should be repaired by Samsung in the U.S. No one's tested that though. Expansys, because they have offices in the UK, ships the phone back through their UK office for warranty repairs.
If I were to buy Expansys-US would be the place because they do cover it. Now only problem is what if I buy it and AT&T come out with theirs in two weeks LOL! Also, what's the fail rate on the screens, etc?
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If I were to buy Expansys-US would be the place because they do cover it. Now only problem is what if I buy it and AT&T come out with theirs in two weeks LOL! Also, what's the fail rate on the screens, etc?
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AT&T WILL probably have the Galaxy S II in a few weeks... if you can you are probably better off waiting to see which model you prefer. I heard US varients of the GS II were getting Tegra processors and of course AT&T will cripple the phone with bloatware and slow updates.. so I went ahead and got an unlocked one from Amazon that DOES have a warrenty. Who knows, maybe AT&T will surprise everyone and keep the Galaxy S II the way it should be.
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So you don't think apple will keep it from coming out? I can try to wait a few weeks but man........it's tough. Also, hope there are not long lines like there was for the 3gs.......not worth it for this crap phone..(3GS I mean)
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So you don't think apple will keep it from coming out? I can try to wait a few weeks but man........it's tough. Also, hope there are not long lines like there was for the 3gs.......not worth it for this crap phone..(3GS I mean)
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I doubt there would be long lines, if any for the Galaxy S II at an AT&T store. Now the iPhone 5... that's a different story haha . But yea I don't know what to say, the unlocked Galaxy S II is awesome if you have some extra money to spend... otherwise wait and see what AT&T has to offer.
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Well I thank everyone for the feedback. I may wait because no warranty and the whole few weeks thing. I just hope att version isn't big as the infuse.
ATT apps are now available from the Android market for the AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000. Guess the phone will be available from ATT shortly.
Message I got when I downloaded ATT Messaging app:
This app is compatible with some of your devices.
AT&T Samsung GT-N7000
AT&T Samsung GT-I9100
AT&T HTC Liberty
AT&T HTC Desire HD
T-Mobile Samsung Nexus S
This item is not available on your carrier.
AT&T Motorola MB860 (last used March, 2011)
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Yeah but who cares? AT&T versions are loaded with bloatware, they never have the phone in white (e.g. SG2), locked down, lack an FM radio and they remove the physical home button. Not worth getting an AT&T phone at all. Save up your pennies and buy an unlocked phone, it isn't that expensive.
I already bought the international version off contract. I'm not about to sign a contract just to get a crippled version of the device. I happen to like the physical Home button and lack of a search button; holding the Menu key has the same effect.
While there are bloatware/crapware issues and the 2 year lock in as clear disadvantages the fact that you can get a phone like the Note for $300 or more less than unlocked is a big plus for many. In addition, you have a much easier return location if you have a problem.
I almost picked up a Note last week but Newegg didn't have any in stock so I delayed my purchase. Given the issues some are reporting with the Note and the fact that any first of a kind phone is likely to have early issues I decided to hold off for a while.
One of my concerns with buying an imported phone is that you have no way of knowing if the phone they ship you was returned by someone else. This, perhaps more than anything else, is giving me pause about buying an imported model so soon after the phone is released.
Brian
5150Joker said:
Yeah but who cares? AT&T versions are loaded with bloatware, they never have the phone in white (e.g. SG2), locked down, lack an FM radio and they remove the physical home button. Not worth getting an AT&T phone at all. Save up your pennies and buy an unlocked phone, it isn't that expensive.
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LTE maybe?
And as far as your points they are all merely speculation.
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LTE maybe?
And as far as your points they are all merely speculation.
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They're all fact based on what AT&T did to galaxy s2.
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I'm excited for the development to get started on this phone. I hope it will be like the GS2 with more development on the international version.
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They're all fact based on what AT&T did to galaxy s2.
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The Note is not the Galaxy S2 and the AT&T Note version is not released,
so your points are not fact based on the note, you made an ass-umption.
Plus the lack of updates....
Unlocked Galaxy S2 on ATT I had 2 updates in 3 months.
Galaxy Touch on sprint? Desperately needed updates from the getgo...signals cut out all day long: NOTHING. Samsung sent it out. Sprints been sitting on it.
i almost got the galaxy note myself. If its coming to att then I might just wait. I'd love to have a warranty with it. I would also like to be able to play with it before I buy it. I'm just wondering if it does come to att will they let me keep my unlimitedplan from my iPhone.
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LTE maybe?
And as far as your points they are all merely speculation.
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Have you seen the AT&T ****rocket threads?
Have fun getting throttled after 1 day
As for the "speculation", no USA Sammy android phone has ever had a physical home button. AT&T also usually removes fm radios. But... if you want to pay $300 for a throttled, crippled Note with no ICS coverage for a long long time then have fun!
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This is great news. Even for those that plan to or already have imported since Samsung will have a service center presence for the Note in the US.
xAnimal5 said:
Have you seen the AT&T ****rocket threads?
Have fun getting throttled after 1 day
As for the "speculation", no USA Sammy android phone has ever had a physical home button. AT&T also usually removes fm radios. But... if you want to pay $300 for a throttled, crippled Note with no ICS coverage for a long long time then have fun!
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Why not just wait to see what the facts are? What do you gain from speculating the worst?
xAnimal5 said:
Have you seen the AT&T ****rocket threads?
Have fun getting throttled after 1 day
As for the "speculation", no USA Sammy android phone has ever had a physical home button. AT&T also usually removes fm radios. But... if you want to pay $300 for a throttled, crippled Note with no ICS coverage for a long long time then have fun!
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We understand you trying to justify your recent $800 purchase, but let's try to be a little objective. I'd gladly save $500 on a phone by adding some bloatware or giving up a home button.
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We understand you trying to justify your recent $800 purchase, but let's try to be a little objective. I'd gladly save $500 on a phone by adding some bloatware or giving up a home button.
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You don't save anything, its subsidized through your 2 yr contract.
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You don't save anything, its subsidized through your 2 yr contract.
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...which has been further subsidized for the last 10 years by my five-line family plan. I think we all have a pretty good grasp on contract upgrades at this point, but thanks.
The import G-note will most likely have a better look over the att G-note. I just spent $750 on a white G-note n I think it was a good deal. I sold my iphone 4s for $550 n my dell streak for $200. so I really only paid $217 (cost of upgrading to phone 4s) for my G-Note. I do miss the US warrenty n the support if I would have gotten from att. if I done my math right I over paid about $100 for my G-note. But I got a white G-note n 3 to 4 months less waiting.
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Wow... some people are taking this kinda personally, lol.
I'm planning to root that sucker and use a custom ROM, plus I've got the grandfathered unlimited data, so I'm psyched AT&T will apparently be offering the Note.
To be honest, if you can flash it and there is good xda dev support, there is no reason not to get a subsidized phone. It's just nice if something goes wrong in the first year to be able to mail it in and get it replaced. I have a service center in town, so Ican just go swap it out.
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So then don't act like you're saving $500 when you're not. Buying the AT&T crippled version is for people that are either: 1. on an extremely tight budget 2. retarded.
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I won't be saving $500? Ok, $400? I pay less per month than you do with unlimited data and I'll hopefully be paying significantly less than you for this phone. Unless you're planning on changing carriers in the next two years you have no point.
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The import G-note will most likely have a better look over the att G-note. I just spent $750 on a white G-note n I think it was a good deal. I sold my iphone 4s for $550 n my dell streak for $200. so I really only paid $217 (cost of upgrading to phone 4s) for my G-Note. I do miss the US warrenty n the support if I would have gotten from att. if I done my math right I over paid about $100 for my G-note. But I got a white G-note n 3 to 4 months less waiting.
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The only reason I haven't done that yet is because I'm waiting to see if an LTE version comes out. Otherwise, sounds like a good deal!
Yes. Having LTE would be nice. Maybe LTE would work better in the SF area. Att 3g sucks in SF. I guess good n cheaper things comes to those that could wait.
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use my upgrade and be locked in for another 2 years or buy the international version spec'ed one minus the lte? Or should I just get the Galaxy Nexus?
Im not to crazy about the lte as im sure my home area doesnt have it anyway. And Im pretty sure it'll eat up battery. Is there a difference in picture/video quality in either one of these? Compared to the Galaxy Nexus specs wise and camera/video wise?
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use my upgrade and be locked in for another 2 years or buy the international version spec'ed one minus the lte? Or should I just get the Galaxy Nexus?
Im not to crazy about the lte as im sure my home area doesnt have it anyway. And Im pretty sure it'll eat up battery. Is there a difference in picture/video quality in either one of these? Compared to the Galaxy Nexus specs wise and camera/video wise?
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Depends on what you use your smartphone for. If your usung it for advanced things like note taking, then the note. I personally would just use the att one,as sammy products have a pretty high failure rate, heck my infuse is still broken, i have to get a new one. If it was the international version, your 700 would gone, or it would takes weeks to get it fixed/get a new one. Instead on the nexus, you could get the skyrocket hd which will be atts version.
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Depends on what you use your smartphone for. If your usung it for advanced things like note taking, then the note. I personally would just use the att one,as sammy products have a pretty high failure rate, heck my infuse is still broken, i have to get a new one. If it was the international version, your 700 would gone, or it would takes weeks to get it fixed/get a new one. Instead on the nexus, you could get the skyrocket hd which will be atts version.
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So the skyrocket hd will be the at&t galaxy nexus version? I didnt know that. I guess I have another one to think about, when I mentioned the galaxy nexus I meant the unlocked version.You have a point on waiting for something to get fixed when you order an unlocked version. Im not even thinking much about taking notes but more for the bigger screen. Wonder what the release dates are for the at&t version for both note and galaxy nexus.
Wait for the AT&T version.
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Wait for the AT&T version.
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I see but now I'll be torn between this at&t version and the galaxy nexus at&t version. I would like to wait until both are released and read about complaints etc. I'll be waiting at least another month I guess. My current htc inspire is getting a bit long in the tooth you know.
If you don't care about LTE or worried about possible failure, get International version because it has better development support and beefier processor.
I was in the same situation as you and wanted to upgrade from SkyRocket. I ended up getting an international version because of the following reasons
- Lack of support for AT&T version (due to different processors.)
- Don't want to wait for months for AT&T version to be available.
- HATE AT&T bloatware.
If you have the money to spend on an unlocked version I would do that. I was in your shoes with no LTE in the area. On top of that I didn't want bloatware or a 2 year contract (the better processor being a bonus). I spent the extra cash and could not be happier, plus development on the international unlocked version will blow the at&t versions development out of the water.
How long have you been with ATT? Are you happy with them and pretty sure you will stay with them? If so, wait for the ATT version and get it on contract. You could always sell it and put the profit to any phone you want. The GNote blows the GNex out of the water spec wise and user wise. Once the GNote gets ICS the GNex will be left further behind. The GNote is Samsung's flagship product!
I have the International GNote and love it. I would not sell mine, but I might sell the skyrocket and get the ATT version GNote with no commitment pricing to have an LTE version...I switch between my GNote and skyrocket and my skyrocket has not been getting much love or use lately!
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If you don't care about LTE or worried about possible failure, get International version because it has better development support and beefier processor.
I was in the same situation as you and wanted to upgrade from SkyRocket. I ended up getting an international version because of the following reasons
- Lack of support for AT&T version (due to different processors.)
- Don't want to wait for months for AT&T version to be available.
- HATE AT&T bloatware.
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If you have the money to spend on an unlocked version I would do that. I was in your shoes with no LTE in the area. On top of that I didn't want bloatware or a 2 year contract (the better processor being a bonus). I spent the extra cash and could not be happier, plus development on the international unlocked version will blow the at&t versions development out of the water.
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I dont care much about lte because its not covered everywhere I go, and Im a bit worried about failure. Any recommend online vendors where I could purchase an international version from?
Im definitely worried about lack of dev support on at&t version that alone may push me to the unlocked version.
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How long have you been with ATT? Are you happy with them and pretty sure you will stay with them? If so, wait for the ATT version and get it on contract. You could always sell it and put the profit to any phone you want. The GNote blows the GNex out of the water spec wise and user wise. Once the GNote gets ICS the GNex will be left further behind. The GNote is Samsung's flagship product!
I have the International GNote and love it. I would not sell mine, but I might sell the skyrocket and get the ATT version GNote with no commitment pricing to have an LTE version...I switch between my GNote and skyrocket and my skyrocket has not been getting much love or use lately!
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I've been with them for about 3 years, have a family plan with a corporate discount and I have the unlimited data plan which has recently been scammed into 2gb throttling so I am pretty disgusted with at&t for that, but I do get ok service most places with them.
I believe you on the gnote specs being better than the gnex specs, and this skyrocket hd that is suppose to be at&t's version of the gnex has touchwiz and gingerbread? No ICS? No way I'm falling for that. I rather have the gnote. Also as I mentioned about the unlimited data throttling they are now doing, even if I had full lte service everywhere I'd think I'd run into throttling faster than usual.
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I dont care much about lte because its not covered everywhere I go, and Im a bit worried about failure. Any recommend online vendors where I could purchase an international version from?
Im definitely worried about lack of dev support on at&t version that alone may push me to the unlocked version.
I've been with them for about 3 years, have a family plan with a corporate discount and I have the unlimited data plan which has recently been scammed into 2gb throttling so I am pretty disgusted with at&t for that, but I do get ok service most places with them.
I believe you on the gnote specs being better than the gnex specs, and this skyrocket hd that is suppose to be at&t's version of the gnex has touchwiz and gingerbread? No ICS? No way I'm falling for that. I rather have the gnote. Also as I mentioned about the unlimited data throttling they are now doing, even if I had full lte service everywhere I'd think I'd run into throttling faster than usual.
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LTE is the ONLY reason why I would even consider AT&T version compared to international but since they have ruined it with throttling, I don't think that is a valid reason anymore. What's the point of getting LTE device when you can't even use it properly.
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How long have you been with ATT? Are you happy with them and pretty sure you will stay with them? If so, wait for the ATT version and get it on contract. You could always sell it and put the profit to any phone you want. The GNote blows the GNex out of the water spec wise and user wise. Once the GNote gets ICS the GNex will be left further behind. The GNote is Samsung's flagship product!
I have the International GNote and love it. I would not sell mine, but I might sell the skyrocket and get the ATT version GNote with no commitment pricing to have an LTE version...I switch between my GNote and skyrocket and my skyrocket has not been getting much love or use lately!
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Our int'l Notes dominate the Gnexus spec wise. The USA note will have the snapdragon. One of the worst and laggiest SoC's.
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expansys-usa is where I bought mine. $689 then found a $20 off coupon code. It ships out of Chicago and got to me in 2 days. Free shipping.
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LTE is the ONLY reason why I would even consider AT&T version compared to international but since they have ruined it with throttling, I don't think that is a valid reason anymore. What's the point of getting LTE device when you can't even use it properly.
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Are you experiencing throttling as well?
Can you recommend dependable online vendors for the international gnote? Like fast delivery, low failure rate, great rep etc..
Skyrocket HD is not AT&T version of Galaxy Nexus. Any Nexus phone means update directly from Google, not Samsung. That's the major difference. Otherwise, the two are close but the CPU on SR HD is weaker.
If you going to buy international version, make sure you understand that you get zero warranty from Samsung USA. So, you potentially could have $600+ down the drain.
AVOID CARRIER BRANDED DEVICES LIKE THE PLAGUE!! DO NOT BUY AT&T!!
I did the same - expansys $689 w/$20 off coupon, free ship. I checked with expansys and they give you a 2 yr samsung Eu warranty ( must ship through them to EU to fix). Good deal and I would rather have the international unlocked, unbloated note - mainly so when I read all that devs do for it on this site, I can take advantage and not be pissed off I have some crapware AT&T version. Remember if there is a diff cpu - you get none of the dev support - basically it isn't a note anymore (MHO).
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AVOID CARRIER BRANDED DEVICES LIKE THE PLAGUE!! DO NOT BUY AT&T!!
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Nice write up, but not everyone can afford unlocked devices so its pretty tough. Luckily I've been saving up for a new device.
I just cant believe that at&t's gnote is completely different from the unlocked version. The purposely cripple their devices?
Ok where are these coupons you guys speak of?
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Nice write up, but not everyone can afford unlocked devices so its pretty tough. Luckily I've been saving up for a new device.
I just cant believe that at&t's gnote is completely different from the unlocked version. The purposely cripple their devices?
Ok where are these coupons you guys speak of?
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$20 off $500 or more.
Code: 20OFFLS
Thanks I'll try them although I remember hearing Expansys doesnt pick up their phone? So I hope all goes well with an online purchase.
Buy the subsidized iphone and unlock it. sell on ebay and buy the intl note.
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i just bought the phone like an hour or so ago and i must say im impressed but theres pros and cons about this device. i took some flicks so you guys can see it compared to the epic 4g
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johnp1991 said:
What you guys think about the $199 price tag? its cheaper then when I bought my og epic for $220. Do you guys think it be worth it knowing the s3 the same price?
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No i don't think it is. Even though the call signal/quality might be superb
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I say wait for it to be up on amazonwireless/wirefly/letstalk. Though I was expecting them to charge 250$, they always charge 50$ for the keyboard fee. Considering that we most likely won't be seeing any other keyboard phones for a year (sprint already has 3 with this one having best specs). There might not be much choice.
What's funny I was in radio shack with a friend today... they are selling the og epic for $20.00.
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What's funny I was in radio shack with a friend today... they are selling the og epic for $20.00.
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Why is it funny? it is always cheaper through a retailer then directly. You can get it for 1 penny on amazon. The only downside ordering it through a 3rd party is if you cancel after 30 days but before 180 days you pay 200$+ extra to cancel.
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Do you guys think it be worth it knowing the s3 the same price?
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a no go for the following reason:
1) motorolla device with no confirmed unlocked bootloader
2) non-removable battery is only 1785 mAh
3) only 1GB RAM
So, unless these specs are wrong.... not worth it, IMO
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a no go for the following reason:
1) motorolla device with no confirmed unlocked bootloader
2) non-removable battery is only 1785 mAh
3) only 1GB RAM
So, unless these specs are wrong.... not worth it, IMO
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#1 Not true, it has been confirmed that the Photon Q 4GLTE will be Motorola's first unlockable bootloader.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/07/26/unlock-the-bootloader-on-motorola-photon-q-4g-lte/
That said, I still won't buy it, most likely.
Sprint posted a deal on the Motorola Photon Q. If you pre-order and add a line you get a $100 amex gift card so may be worth it if your on a family plan.
2 people told me today they are waiting for the iPhone 5...
God have mercy on their souls...
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orlzzt said:
2 people told me today they are waiting for the iPhone 5...
God have mercy on their souls...
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Whats an iphone?
orlzzt said:
2 people told me today they are waiting for the iPhone 5...
God have mercy on their souls...
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Simpletons will be Simpletons. Im waiting on the new Nexus, which should come soon after they release the Iphone5 lol.
Unless I think this phone is worth it...and they drop the price to $100 no mail in rebate.
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Simpletons will be Simpletons. Im waiting on the new Nexus, which should come soon after they release the Iphone5 lol.
Unless I think this phone is worth it...and they drop the price to $100 no mail in rebate.
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So far cheapest I found for upgrades is 149.99$ at Wirefly F&F.
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Whats an iphone?
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I love the iphone!!!
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#1 Not true, it has been confirmed that the Photon Q 4GLTE will be Motorola's first unlockable bootloader.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/07/26/unlock-the-bootloader-on-motorola-photon-q-4g-lte/
That said, I still won't buy it, most likely.
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Thanks, that was always a concern when it came to Motorola, at least IMO
Still, considering you can get an Epic for $100 off contract and run CM10 on it, and a SGS3 for $150 via Amazon/Best Buy, I am kinda unwilling to risk jumping on board another phone with slim development prospects, until I hear otherwise. Perhaps if CM accepts the device...
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Thanks, that was always a concern when it came to Motorola, at least IMO
Still, considering you can get an Epic for $100 off contract and run CM10 on it, and a SGS3 for $150 via Amazon/Best Buy, I am kinda unwilling to risk jumping on board another phone with slim development prospects, until I hear otherwise. Perhaps if CM accepts the device...
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My main interest is because of WORLD phone. I can us e GSM on travel and makes life much easier. I wish GS3 had GSM slot. I read that there is some long way of getting there with GS3.
i would have been willing to put up with Motorola shenanigans if the thing was 720p, but it's only QHD
looks like i'll have to go with a NOKB phone.
in other news, i know someone who will LOOOOVE the Kyocera Rise on VM... $99!?!? cut the check!
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My main interest is because of WORLD phone. I can us e GSM on travel and makes life much easier. I wish GS3 had GSM slot. I read that there is some long way of getting there with GS3.
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Is the lte sim card user accessible? If so, you can probably use gsm from there, just like on some verizon droids not advertising gsm capability.
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My main interest is because of WORLD phone. I can us e GSM on travel and makes life much easier. I wish GS3 had GSM slot. I read that there is some long way of getting there with GS3.
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Doesn't it have a locked GSM slot? I remember hearing something about Verizon version being hacked to use GSM in europe. I doubt sprint version is any different, but your gonna have to research it.
How does the qHD screen compare to AMOLED???? No one has answered this for me.
gTen said:
I say wait for it to be up on amazonwireless/wirefly/letstalk. Though I was expecting them to charge 250$, they always charge 50$ for the keyboard fee. Considering that we most likely won't be seeing any other keyboard phones for a year (sprint already has 3 with this one having best specs). There might not be much choice.
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This isn't true. LG has a keyboard phone in the pipeline called the Cayenne.
The Photon is a no-go for me due to embedded battery. As it is I need to use an extended battery with the Epic and always carry a spare for backup.
When batteries were always replaceable I considered physical keyboard my deal breaker. Now replaceable battery is my deal breaker. I'd like a keyboard too, but if I *HAD* to choose between keyboard and replaceable battery I'd go with the replaceable battery. Keyboard does me no good if the phone is dead...