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At last she has arrived, our prayers have been answered, her name is ' New Years Spirit ', and she is new to the X1, be gentle with her
Where she was born : http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware
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Please post your experiences, clean or otherwise, what makes her tick, what turns her on, what are her secret desires ?
This is the most fun iv had since I got my X1.
And she is Freeware !
I didnt like it there are better bots and it doesnt answer any qeustion
or am i doing something wrong??
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I didnt like it there are better bots and it doesnt answer any qeustion
or am i doing something wrong??
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Same here. She's throwing around poems and wise but cannot answer to the simplest questions.
does she get kinky?
She learns from your words, if you talk dirty eventually she talks dirty and if she becomes too dirty, if you type !delebrain it deletes her brain and shes goes back to the age of a 4 year old who only repeats the words you use until she learns to use her own, just like a real child.
However children dont do it for me, give me a hot chick wispering poetry anyday.
And all remember: 'it is "just" freeware' program. Wait until the commercial version comes out.... will be a self aware 'AI' unit Terminator 5 is coming....
this isnt a chatbot this is a program with a few built in phrases and words and maybe a bit of grammer, that learns the words you put in and then ouputs them in a random order when u type to it. I dont see the point in it.
Does anyone have links to a real chatbot for windows mobile??
Android is open. That's why I have my Samsung Galaxy S, my Nexus One and my Sapphire.
I have these phones because the open community can do better than the professionals, and I am proud to be a member of a community that has recently hacked Froyo onto the G1, Android2HD2 (and other Winmo devices), created great skins and themes, rooted almost every droid to date, hacked google navigation to work in other countries etc etc etc.
There is amazing work being done is this community.
Kingklick was able to put out a lot of ROMs which satisfied a lot of people. Contributors to Cyanogenmod (disclaimer. notably not Cyanogen himself) and others (fans and friends - disclaimer. note lack of word fanboys - of cyanogenmod, disclaimer. plus some others too) have flamed and flamed away about Kangklick (notably via twitter - I have stopped following any of those jerks that clogged up my feeds with what could've - screw that - should've been settled MUCH more privately..I followed you guys for dev news or the occasional interesting insight into your real life, not your petty bickering, but you have every right to post what you like...hence why I stopped following you all, I didn't flame you...note 'bigger man').
Rule 12 of XDArules clearly states that using the work of others must be done with permission, independent of whether it is open source or not. If this is not upheld then the post will be bought down, it does not say the user will be banned. I would understand the formality of taking the post down and requesting Kingklick reposts the ROM with due credit, but I believe - note believe...implies opinion - that moderators may have been influenced by pressure from other (high ranking, public eye) members and thus did not adhere to normal or just (I do not know if not giving creds is normally treated in this way, but you will discover I believe it shouldn't be) protacol. Kingklick broke the rules of XDA, but then again I see his banning as the least contentious issue here.
I believe that members of the XDA community in the public eye (ie with large Twitter follower base) due to their work via XDA (no matter what you say, cyanogenmod may be based at its own domain, but it still posts at XDA to maintain its public profile and feed of the massive XDA userbase, and is hence in part bound by this) have a responsibility to follow the rules of XDA on XDA rules and disputes. I do not think this is something which can be policed ('I'm banning you Wes for Trolling Kingklick...on Twitter'... not gonna work) but I think it is a moral obligation (anyone that thinks the internet is not bound by morality should take a reality check...the reason why we have open source is essentially ethics).
Do we give credit to Linus Torvalds every time we distribute linux kernels or work to do with linux? Do we give credit to those that helped him create this base? Do we give credit to Google for creating Android? HTC? Our carriers? Martin Cooper for inventing the mobile phone and cell networks? Time Berners-Lee for inventing the internet, giving rise to this forum, Google and thus the Phones/Devices we love and use? The fact is we don't give credit where due (although you may say its obscure to thank these people, they DO deserve our thanks). None of the ROM chefs/coders give all credit where due, but a lot do in part, with those directly involved. But who still thanks the original rooters?
Kingklick has been declared a copier by the jury...I haven't delved through the evidence to confirm this...but shouldn't we be much more relaxed about copying in general? All users should be open about their work with Android, but they are not. If kingklick based a build off Cyanongenmod, and gave due credit for that, he would be called unoriginal, despite his attempts to make improvements. I also believe that there should be transparency, a log of all complaints of interest and the community told in a statement from the mods why someone was banned...at least in part (keeping gory details to themselves thank you very much).
Donations are generally given by 'end-users'...noobs who can flash and maybe do some work on the builds but their contributions are limited. End users generally want user experience, and reward devs with commendation and donations. If kingklick does work on a build which satisfies more users and he hence gets donations, is that stealing donations? No. The original dev works on an open source project knowing that their work is open, but the end user can reward as he/she likes. Perhaps kingklick developed his following due to his branding...he did always use words like FAST and STABLE and SMOOTH, but Apple do the same and they're not banned from trading despite the hyperbole.
I do not doubt that a lot of devs thanks fellow devs with donations. Cyanogen is well known for donating, as is kingklick, however a lot of donations come from end users, and if kingklick replaces a few files using winrar (something which I generally contest, I believe kingklick does a lot of great work) and that satisfies more end users by being fast and stable and smooth (or perceived as being so thanks to branding) then he can get donations for that, they are a gesture of satisfaction and goodwill.
Kingklick was immoral by not giving true credit, however I believe that he could have been warned and asked to give credit once he got back from his night out (whether that excuse, or what ever his actual excuse was, was true).
I also laugh at the accusation that kingklick does not fill a niche within the 'open'/'free' community. This should not result in grudges and flame wars, whether it is true or not. Kingklick did fill a niche in my opinion: reviewers (and consumers) see vanilla android as being sterile. Hell it is sterile, and it's never going to be as successful as others if it doesn't sort this out. Cyanogenmod and other big names are based off this sterile form of Android, but they don't delve into Sense UI and other alternative skins, mainly due to preferences or copyright problems etc, not that that stops them with other things. Kingklick did work with these and he filled his niche by delivering great, fast, usable roms of these whilst others sneered at them for being inefficient coding or whatever...geeky snobbery.
Kingklick also delivered various fixes and things which other groups did not. I won't list all of these and I am sure representatives of Cyanogenmob et al will say 'we were gonna fix these issues anyways' or 'that's redundant' or 'that was patchy code', but kingklick has contributed. Obviously we have to hold ethics above output, we can not say that 'his holiness' (inteneded to mock those who believe cyanogen alone is a god, not cyanogen himself) Cyanogen's contributions to android exempt him from following conduct, but we do a great job of driving away good developers with flaming and telling tales. Perhaps you'll say kingklick was not a good developer, Drizzy, even Haykuro etc etc, but I only flashed Cyanogenmod on my Nexus once and I didn't like it for various reasons (personal preference yada yada) but I kept going back for more kingklick...whether that's perceived speed and branding etc or just satisfaction.
King's desire roms are great, but we never mobbed, trolled and banned the poor guy for not giving creds to HTC. Surely the morality of our community using software like Rosie on the Nexus is more ethically questionable than a fellow member of XDA's work, since HTC is a firm which employs people. I bought a Nexus over the Desire because I knew I could still have Sense and a bigger dev community, however the cost included in the Desire which goes to the developers of Sense is hence forgone (perhaps indeirectly, I don;t know HTC internal funding); therefore I have - and anyone who has ever flashed a Sense ROM or devved with Sense - indirectly caused loss of welfare for people who rely of developing as their source of income, tehir families, communities and economies. Surely that is less ethical than not saying thank you, but XDA has no problem with that. Perhaps it is too small to notice, but it will have an indirect impact nonetheless.
Yes kingklick should've said his please and thank you, but I think it's community hyped double standards, pretensical courtesy (not that I wouldn't give creds, it's just that pleases and thank yous are nice, but not actually useful). A wise man once said 'there is no threshold for immorality', just because kingklick did a larger 'crime' than the rest of the community in not giving his thanks out, that does not exempt the other rule breakers (ie everyone), it just means their punishment should be less severe...we choose to ignore it because it's less direct or forgotten about.
In conclusion, I think we should start a 'contributors to Android' part of XDA, added to by mods or specifically appointed members of the community (like the portal). This could be informative and could mean that forgotten about contributors could not be forgotten, but their contributions immortalised in the open community of Android. Even if the contributions become redundant, they are the foundations for the next chapter in the Android story.
Finally. www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html is a very good read..and think about what AOSP stands for (I'll give you a clue...Android Open Source Project!). Can you steal what is open? What right have others to dictate what can and cannot be distributed in the open aspects of Android code (ie the underlying OS and vanilla UI...I'm not confused with Apps). Perhaps kingklick was guilty of plagiarism? But so is anyone that claims they worked really hard in that kernel without crediting Linus and leaving a donation link to his family or favourite charitable causes. Anyone that says I've reworked the UI without giving credits to The Astonishing Tribe for the original Android concepts which all UIs are based off...
Android is closed, that's why I question this 'community'.
I am not proud to be a member of this 'community'...right now.
Ps. Cyanogenmob was originally a typo (using words like mobbed in my piece...Freudian slip on the keyboard rather than fat finger syndrome)...but I kept it in as I thought it was funny...the Cyogenmob should replace team douche IMHO!
Pps. Originally posted in Android Dev general but moved here as its Nexus dev themed!
im proud of myself for actually completing this reading haha. interesting read though.
cheddie said:
im proud of myself for actually completing this reading haha. interesting read though.
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Im more proud of you for successfully quoting the entire thing...I might submit it for my dissertation next year
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Im more proud of you for successfully quoting the entire thing...I might submit it for my dissertation next year
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hahah thanks for bringing that to my attention. had to edit it lol
To be fair I posted the god darn epic rant/essay/post...my bad !
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To be fair I posted the god darn epic rant/essay/post...my bad !
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No, I posted it! I worked long and hard last week to write it out. I am accepting donations to cover my time spent though.
All this happens because altruism is evil in the sense that it is a lie. Altruists demand payment too, in the form of recognition, appreciation, respect, reputation, and all these similar thirst for prestige.
In NOT giving recognition to comrades In arms who share a common need for prestige, it is theft among kin, robbing prestige.
Prestige is indeed a rotten currency.
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Touche...topical. Doesn't really do anything against my points, I am saying kingklick is guilty among many but they are appeased because they haven't got flames burning them. I do believe that kingklick should always give credit where due.
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All this happens because altruism is evil in the sense that it is a lie. Altruists demand payment too, in the form of recognition, appreciation, respect, reputation, and all these similar thirst for prestige.
In NOT giving recognition to comrades In arms who share a common need for prestige, it is theft among kin, robbing prestige.
Prestige is indeed a rotten currency.
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Good point...the fact is cyanogenmod wouldn't be as big with as many great ethusiastic devs without the praise it got...but is that a fair compromise for contributions...
I really think that the issue is the same as black droid. The Problem isn't that king copied the rom and redistributed it. The problem is that he did so claiming that it was his work based off of CM. When in reality he downloaded a a finished copy of CM, compiled by the CM team, and then changed a few lines the build.prop, renamed it and asked for donations. I personally can't see how that is helping the community at all. I really don't care about King one way or the other but I do think that the people who do the work should get credit for it. They spend countless hours writing code for us to have for FREE. Code you yourself says is better than what google puts out. They do this in their spare time and ask for nothing but recognition. You think that is wrong? I am amazed by this. Really I am.
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Good point...the fact is cyanogenmod wouldn't be as big with as many great ethusiastic devs without the praise it got...but is that a fair compromise for contributions...
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Don't misunderstand me. Payment is due, for sure, and payment makes our world go round, but I do wish it were not in the form of mousy prestige, rotten evil currency that it is. Money is a much better choice, but prestige seekers pretend to loathe $ probably because $ is less ambiguous.
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They do this in their spare time and ask for nothing but recognition. You think that is wrong? I am amazed by this. Really I am.
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But they do not explicitly ask for recognition do they? Even the great cyanogen does not do that, because once they impose recognition expressly as a mode of payment you would recognize that their asking for your adulation and love would seen a more demanding payment than asking for cash.
And also the inconvenience of the prestige seekers being more easily mistaken for all the money grabbing corporations which they demonize.
I'd make it clear that I have not wanted anything other than cyanogen's roms during my g1 days, and adulation I'd gladly pay, plus I have donated in money.
These guys made android exciting and formed PART of the inspiration for the paid android developers. It is unfortunate that the society's misconception of altruism as ' good' destroyed a lot of the language required to denounce it as the evil it actually is.
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I really think that the issue is the same as black droid. The Problem isn't that king copied the rom and redistributed it. The problem is that he did so claiming that it was his work based off of CM. When in reality he downloaded a a finished copy of CM, compiled by the CM team, and then changed a few lines the build.prop, renamed it and asked for donations. I personally can't see how that is helping the community at all. I really don't care about King one way or the other but I do think that the people who do the work should get credit for it. They spend countless hours writing code for us to have for FREE. Code you yourself says is better than what google puts out. They do this in their spare time and ask for nothing but recognition. You think that is wrong? I am amazed by this. Really I am.
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it was actually jubehs rom he did that with.....
@OP, Omitting credit and stealing are completely different things. kk downloaded jubehs rom and changed 5-10 files and claimed it as his own. when confronted with this, kk said he compiled it himself even though the evidence overwhelmingly pointed at the other direction. He claimed to have built it from asop, when all he did was take someones rom and change a few files. if he said he "cooked" the rom from another (even without saying who) he would have been ok. But he continued to lie after he was caught which is probably why the ban hammer was dropped.
Most of this plus the damning evidence is located in the g1 section.
Also, android does not follow the GNU licensing, it follows apache, and by default, the devs who release their material here are also released under apache. Apache allows people to see the source so they can better understand it to develop, but people who use the source to develop something from it are not required to open source their works. they are also allow to put their own terms which would include giving proper credit.
AFAIK xda mods actually work together to decide on what to do with offenders. i know thats what they did for the wrecking crew (though some mods were less fair than others -_- )
PS: i havent used cyanogen mod since like 3.6.8 before the C&D lol
The sad fact is, it takes money to live in the world today. A lot of these programmers make good money 9-5 at their day jobs. The average computer engineer spends about 100,000 dollars going to college then makes about 60-70k per year after. This is working on a salary basis probably putting 40-60 hours per week. After that they spend another 20+ writing code for us because they like to. I can completely understand the devs wanting someone who copied and renamed their work to be banned.
That would be like you taking Johnny Cash's Ring of Fire, Calling it Circle of Fire and trying to sell it as your own. You would get sued, etc. Come on people how can you defend this guy, come on really?
Tl,dr the OP.
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Omitting credit and stealing are completely different things. kk downloaded jubehs rom and changed 5-10 files and claimed it as his own. when confronted with this, kk said he compiled it himself even though the evidence overwhelmingly pointed at the other direction. He claimed to have built it from asop, when all he did was take someones rom and change a few files. if he said he "cooked" the rom from another (even without saying who) he would have been ok. But he continued to lie after he was caught which is probably why the ban hammer was dropped.
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If this is true, he got what he deserved. I had a similar thing happen when I wrote a script for the iphone which gets about 75-100 downloads a day. Someone from a forum put their name on it, posted it saying they were up all night writing it and put a donation link at the bottom of their post.
When confronted, they lied and said it didn't work so they rewrote it, but a simple comparison showed the only changes made was to echo commands which displayed the author's name and some text about how to run it. They also had no clue how it worked and gave bad advice about how to use it, and there were a lot of people on that forum using it, having problems and asking questions.
I didn't really care, and I never got a penny for my work, but it forced me to think about it, and what I came up with was: what use is there in having that kind of thing around? They aren't contributing or advancing ideas, they're confusing them and possibly screwing things up.
The douche that stole my script went from "moderator" to "supermoderator" at that site. If that was your site, why would you even want to keep him around? I'm not a banhammer kinda guy, but there's no upside to allowing things like that to continue.
Im no developer, but i do see both sides of the story. But I mean this is no way to act.
[email protected] please tell your teamdouche to grow up. We all know it was someone in it that just made that name
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kingklick92
whoever made that account with MY name haha ur f****g retarded, Ill see you in court. You distribuuted MY name
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kingklick92
whether you were in the right or not.
I think credit should just be given when you use someones work just like you would want the same for your work.
Delete if not acceptable.
Oh for ****'s sake.
OP, you're being a white-knighting ninny. KK got what he deserved: "open-source" doesn't mean an eradication of common courtesy--and crediting is common courtesy. You're trying to weasel around "blah blah why don't we credit HTC and Google" which is sheer, utter, retarded straw man. We know who developed Android by implication unless you live under a rock. Not so with specific individual community contributions.
Besides, what did KK even do? All I saw in the N1 development section from him was ROMs based off other people's work slightly modified, or rubbish that never worked like his attempt to port Blur. I say good riddance. The fact that he managed to scam donations off people hardly helps his case. I'd sooner donate to the source/original contributors, not such a juvenile, plagiarizing, useless waste of oxygen.
Hi!
I know some of you have run flash with the released 2.2 firmwares.
I wanted to try it out, and went to youtube. So it said I needed to install it and redirected me to a supposedly download page, but no download found.
Can anyone post the apk perhaps?
Search function we have, use it you must.
Was it wrong of me to read that in yoda's voice?
yoda, you always have the perfect thing to say.
May the force be with google, and appbrain and android market.
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Search function we have, use it you must.
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I used the search function.. and if you search for flash you rather find flashing firmware than adobe flash =P but if you are a master of search then show me the path =P
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I used the search function.. and if you search for flash you rather find flashing firmware than adobe flash =P but if you are a master of search then show me the path =P
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Use search term "adobe flash apk" you must. There is a topic in the app forum title "adobe flash 10.1 player for froyo".
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Just a seemingly genuine question and this is the rhetort from a 'grown' man. Listen, son, all these media arts are what we label 'fantasy' - just as we have the 'Bibles of the Masses', religious artworks used to promote dogma, we have the 'Bibles of the Geeks' - Star Wars, Dr Who, Star Trek - Geek dogma for the socially inadequate - As we moved into that which we called the Enlightenment - say the late 14th Century beginnings of the Renaissance into the full blown 'scientific' Enlightenment - a move which revealed the 'truth' of that which we now label science, in a similair manner we must mirror this and see the very real inadequacies of those who cling to poorly scripted and acted fantasy programmes du Jour - rather than blindly accept the geek dogma, failing to see 'real' people wince and shy away at the embarrasment of it all, as with the 'faith' of the pre-Renaissance masses - it was very misguided - and, in retrospect, foolish.
This is without getting into the multilayered ironies of your own lack of awareness of yourself and how you are percieved and it's massive removal from reality - that conceited belief in your intellect and value - to say it's miguided ......
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Nice try at sounding intelligent. Now run along.
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A classic - conceited dismissal - who'd have thought of that ? Nice ! Straight to number two on the distort, dismiss, deny scale. Next will be the attempted break down of it's lack of merit / insight or the favourite of the kids, the 'you don't know me, assumptions / opinions' defence - perhaps it'll be further conceits - oh, the suspense and excitement - it's palpable
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Nah, I just don't have time for internet trolls living in their mom's basement.
Thank You Devs Week.
Recently, I've been seeing lots of moaning around ROMs, and I wanted to do something that means we can all give something back to us.
Devs work very hard around the clock for us, and sometimes it's easy to just moan and moan about bugs, feature requests, or asking for ETAs.
So, this week, join us to celebrate all the hard work that devs do for us and THANK YOUR DEV!
What Can I Do?
We want you to get in touch with your dev, by Twitter, email or PM, and tell them why you love their ROM so much.
These are email addresses that devs have sent us so far so that you can thank them:
None yet
Devs please email max(at)maxmarroni(dot)co(dot)uk if you have an email addy you want to add to this list. Make sure to include the device subforum so we know which post to add it to.
You can also tweet about the campaign to @thankyoudevs or #thankyoudevsweek
We need a logo!
If you're good with photoshop etc, we need a groovy logo and a graphic to go in people's signatures with something like 'I thanked My Dev!' in it. Email max(at)maxmarroni(dot)co(dot)uk if you're interested.
And Finally...
Thank you for supporting this campaign and I hope no devs get inundated with thousands of emails
Happy Thanking your Dev!
Sychophants-r-us
Cor! yeah! I'll have some of that!
I've created a site called sycophantsr.us where you can all add your dev-greets!
Sycophants-R-us: English Chapter.
Dave and Sam's plans for us all to 'hug-a-hoody' kind of disappeared didn't they? I suppose old Cleggy put him off a bit.
But, no worries fellow sycophants! Thank-a-Dev-week really kicks off after work today. We, (well, we the English Chapter of SRU, that is), will all be meeting up in Guildford. The plan is to swoop on Chunky-Dev. He usually lurks as Sys-Admin on the Industrial Estate there.
After a few hug-a-chunks we'll feel bloody good about ourselves won't we? And it's all back to the Groveller's afterwards. Last one in buys the Chianti Classico!
See you there everyone!
P.S. Full details on the website http://www.sycophantsr.us - yesterdays non-linking error now corrected
lol im there croques
Reminder Sycophants-R-us
Guildford cattle market 6.30 sharp. Yes it's tonight for the Hunky-Chunky-Dev Swoop Group meet. Be there or be square.
i missed it.
good turn out?
Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day
Dishy Dev of the Day
Well folks, those of you in the English Chapter that attended the do at the Grovellers, in Guildford last evening, had a super time. I was so pleased we all managed to fit in. Mario had bought in a few extra bottles of Chianti Classico as requested. I'd told him we would all be coming 'en masse' and to expect, at least, 100+. He was right though; the two extra bottles <em>were</em> enough.
Anyway, I just know our chunky-hunky-dev enjoyed all the man-hugs you gave him - and those from me too - (you can see he's pleased in the picture I took). I lingered in the hug a little longer than normal; I summoned up all my courage and pressed quite close! I decided I quite like man boobs, don't you? Well, no probably, you more than likely being a fella; you most likely don't. On the other hand though...
But to continue... it was strange, no-one sat close to him all evening. I guess, being a code-monkey, he's one of the Great Unwashed and whiffs a bit. You know what I mean? But I couldn't be sure though; I'm having trouble with my sinuses at the moment and tend to snort snot sideways and everywhere.
I'm sorry! Was that too much information?
No-one mentioned any odd smells and the evening passed just fine. Folks tended to drift away after about 7'ish as they had something else scheduled. My, what busy lives you all lead! Phones were hot with all those diary entries I could see being made. Someone was going on about an app that can ring your phone whenever you want. What would be the point of that? Daft if you ask me.
But I missed most of the conversation, such as there was, as I was making peace with Mario. He said I'd promised 100 guests, when I done no such thing. I know how difficult it is for members in these stricken times. Travel costs are so high now, aren't they? Some had come from as far away as Shalford! Thanks for all that effort! You know who you are; I won't embarrass you by naming names. But it was a shame when you had to leave very early-on so as to get back, as the lights on your bike had broken. But, as I say, I think the evening passed off very well.
Well, apart that is from that slightly unpleasant moment when someone flashed their phone in Hunky-Chunk's face and asked "can you beat that then?" Clearly the phone in question was not loaded with his ROM. Well, I know for a fact it wasn't his ROM. As it all seemed to be working fine; with no lag or anything. And I could clearly see the GPS had a fix, even indoors as we were. I think it might have been He-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named's ROM. He went purple for a moment; puce even; I thought for a moment the game was up and we all were going to get a tougue lashing. Asperger's and Tourrettes together is quite a burden for one boy to carry isn't it?
But he was easily distracted by someone breaking a glass behind him. He's known to have the attention span of a gnat on a Summer's evening buzzing back to places already visited. (It's the limited attention span that gets the bugs in the code you know - but I'd better not dwell on that, had I?)
Now, as it happened, I had the time to ask our Hunky-Chunk your questions over breakfast this morning. Oooh! I really ought to re-phrase that ... as nothing happened. No. Nothing.
I tell you - nothing at all happened. Well here's what did happen... after polishing off the two bottles of Chianti between us, he was a bit legless and I thought I'd better see him home. Despite me promising him I was going to make him famous as my latest toy-boy. And telling him that between us we could re-populate Passchendaele. And handing over a purse full of Viagra. He was as limp as a filleted cuttle fish in a wheelchair on an outing to Lourds. I don't think he had a clue as to what was on offer! If he did, he certainly didn't want it. No, and I wasn't put off by the frilly underwear either; I'd have been willing to give it a go. I tend to wear the plainer style with a larger gusset myself, but hey-ho.
I suppose I've lost some of my allure since I stopped colouring my hair and become menopausal - well long since really. And so what? I've developed a few 'laughter lines'. And the flesh sags a bit where it didn't used to. We all have to face up to age catching us up eventually. It's a cruel, cruel World, isn't it? But I digress... and what am I waffling on about?
Without more ado - let me announce our Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day!
He's asked me not to reveal his real name or screen-handle(s) as he might want to get a proper job one day and doesn't want all this tosh obscuring his resume. I can understand that.
But he's one real Hell-of-a-Fella and a Dishy-Chunky-Hunky-Dunky-Dev I can tell you.
Here he is:
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isn't he a sweetie? And he's really nothing like the villain he's made out to be.
I knew you wouldn't be disappointed. Actually, it isn't the photo I took. He wouldn't let me use that. (I thought it was we women who were supposed to be vain.) But he gave me a picture of himself taken before all that lard loaded, and insisted I use that. So there you go; a little fishy, wishy-dishy, picture instead.
Code:
Born : Cesarean section
Nationality : British
Age : 27.75
Pet family name : Oi You!
Occupation : Windows Systems Engineer
Live : Godalming - house share. (Ed. It's a squat and the water's off!)
School : Yes
Uni : No
School Prizes : Christmas Raffle 1997
Favourite food : Anything in a pie-case & chips
Favourite colour: Green
Favourite Group : Sugababes
Favourite Oldie : YMCA, Village People
Favourite OS : RISC OS
Favorite phone : Nokia N95
Favourite saying: Defectus tuus consilium carpere discrimen mihi non constituit!
Car : Renault Twingo (Ed. Un-taxed and not insured)
Vote for : Me
Spare time spent: Chillin' 'n' codin'
Sports : Water pistols duel around the rack rooms - but only on night shift!
Snort etc : Nothing in last 9 months; I'm clean now, honest, well, apart from a popper or two at weekends
Best Game : The Ultimate Gay Mafia Wars
Dislikes : Anyone who questions me; boyfriend leaving pants on floor; other ROM devs; people taking the piss.
Pet hates : Grey and wrinklies (Ed. touche)
Disappointed by : Not going to Uni
Future plans : Develop for Windows Phone 7; ban everyone fom XDADevelopers who posts a bug report on my ROM
Would like : Respect; adoration; a degree; more pay
Well, there you have it folks. And look out for our next....Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day coming soon to sycophants-R-us! Are you a member yet? PM 42turkeys if you want to join!
(c) Piss-Taking Productions Ltd: Pimlico, Poplar, Purley, Penge & Penzance
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And tomorrow night...
I can confirm that 'Thank You Devs Week' bravely continues despite the lethargy displayed by last evening's poor attendance. I only received one apology. Shame on the rest of you.
I'm not sure what's got into you all. I know that a woman discussing things about blokes bits and the like in today's 'Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day' isn't really the social norm. But hey, times are a changing.
All you little introverts out there can really help push the social barriers on a bit. So don't be frightened - just join in and do your thing! Brown-nose a bit if you want or just listen to others doing it. So, OK, maybe you've just got to reload that ROM and perhaps your social skills do need honing a touch; but you've got to get your head out of that phone at some time - do it now! Please come and join us! If you want some tips on brown-nosing, 42TurkeyTwizzlersInOneSitting has written a how-to. You'll find it on the web site. It's an invaluable primer for getting to the top in todays world of business.
Anyway, let's get on to tomorrow's Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day.
Who could it be?
He bravely battles the booze; he's bright but boring; he's a big bad bastard and he's BANNED!
Know who it is yet? Make sure you join Sychophants-R-Us to get the full low-down in tomorrows edition of Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day. Remember to pm 42turkeys to join!
PS No Swoop Group meet on this one; (I want to see if I can get the bastard on my own this time).
Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day: Failure report
Well fellow member of sycophats-R-us. I have to report abject failure. It's not often in my life that something gets the better of me. But it happened last night.
I was all pimped-up to the nines, badly wanting to make a good impression. I even had my heels on, I haven't worn those in ages... and the body-shaper... like Trish & Suzanna wear. It had pulled me in nicely so I really thought I might too, at last.
Anyhow to continue my report, I finally managed to get some sort of GPS fix from the 4/11 satellites being received on my phone and eventually found my way to where our Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day lived.
I successfully parked the car... it took a while though. I only put a small dent in the door of that Audi A8; I don't 'spose they'll notice. But I did need to find another space somewhere else just to be safe. And it was that that took the time.
Neasden is such a dump isn't it? I found the house and decended the very worn steps to the basement flat. Paint was peeling off everywhere. And it stunk to High Heaven of cat pee. You know what? Irony of all irony; do you know what the house and flat number were? Flat 26, 32 Carper's Crescent. Well! I ask you. How close is that to all the brouhaha over kernel 2.6.32; did he have it or didn't he? Well, specially for you, my SRU reader, I was going to find out. But between you and me I don't for a moment think he really did have that code. But I was going to ask him anyway. I thought he'd tell me afterwards.. you know... in that dreamy time after copulating... or whatever you young boys call it these days.
I knocked on the door and waited. And waited. I waited. And I waited. I would have phoned him but what with all the GPS use, the battery had died.
My ROM Dev say two hours use is quite good for a Froyo ROM. I'm really pleased and love my ROM to bits; it's fantastic! I really, really appreciate all the amazingly hard work the Dev has done on my behalf. I always make a point of telling my Dev how great his ROM is even before I've loaded each twice-daily update... they like the feedback you know. Enough; I'm continuing...
I banged on the door again... rat-a-tat-tat, rat-tat. I was getting quite musically minded with beating out that rhythm; I had visions of drumming behind Mark Knopfler. Dream on Girl! Oh, if I could have my time round again.
But I was able to force my attention back to the matters in hand, and without too much brain down-time. Does your mind drift off sometimes? Mine's more off than on these days .. but I'm wandering again - sorry.
I knew he was in because I could smell burnt cabbage via the Expelair in the window. And I'd already texted him and told him to expect me around 8. It was a few minutes after sunset and the light was starting to go. I kicked the door a bit so the glass panes rattled.
Doing that set off a chain reaction I didn't anticipate...
I only had flimsy fashion shoes on so I'd stubbed my toe with all that door kicking. Naturally I lifted my foot to give it a rub. When I put it back down again the stiletto heel pierced the tail of next door's cat that was ingratiating itself around my legs and was probably responsible for the smell. The cat squealed like a barrage balloon with a million psi leak; I jumped in fright at the unexpected noise and stumbled backwards on those heels I've been telling you about; knocking open the door to the hidy-hole behind me in the process. The cacophony woke the fox hiding in the hidy-hole. He whooshed past me up the steps, sending the milk bottles at the top crashing down.
As I tried to regain my balance, I slipped on an old festering takeaway, (at least I hope that's what it was). I promptly fell-over backwards, well and truly into the hidy-hole; knocking over the bins therein and tearing my stockings as I went. I felt the gusset pop on my body-shaper; with skirt hitched even higher and with legs akimbo. All my assets were on full view. If you know what I mean?
Empty beer cans were rolling out from the hidy-hole everywhere. They mixed in gay abandon with the bottles cascading down the steps. Well, altogether it was all one hell-of-a din. And it woke things up I can tell you.
It was the people in the upstairs ground-floor flat that were first to be roused. They weren't very polite at first telling me to clear off, but they used that F-word I don't like; and they told me to ply my trade on someone else's doorstep. Anyway to cut a long story short I managed to explain what had happened. It took me three goes, but eventually they calmed down and saw the funny side. I'm damned sure I didn't. I still can't. But they agreed to bang on their floor - his ceiling you understand - and eventually I could hear cussing and swearing advancing up the passage to the door in front of me. I'd picked myself up by this time and re-pinned my gusset so at least I was decent.
"Wasshsup?" He called, standing behind the door and slurring his speech badly. I could tell he was three sheets to the wind. I poked open the letter box and peered through into the gloom. He was wearing just his vest and pants. His pecs weren't up to much but his tackle looked ok. Contrary to what all those spam emails say boys - I can tell you - girls don't care about size very much. So I'm sure all you weeners will be ok.
Well, there he was in his vest and pants; I say 'his' but they were so dirty they looked as if that had had a few dozen owners before. I could feel my desire level dropping markedly as that wave of deja-vu disappointment crept over me.
"It's me!" I called through the letter box, trying to keep my spirits up and sound cheerful. "I texted you earlier about an interview for my web-site."
"Web site?" He asked, still slurring like billyo.
"They've banned me... the bastards. Me?! The best ROM developer that'sshsever lived. Me! The bastards.... but I'll show'em.... I will ... I'll show'em. Basshtards"
I quickly decided I needed to steer him back to the purpose of my visit and try and put a stop to his burgeoning melancholia.
"I've come to ask you to share a few things with my ..." Before I could finish my sentence with the word 'reader', he interrupted, roaring like a wounded animal.
"Share?" "Did you say - SHARE?" The volume rose on the last word; even the questioning-lift at the end rattled my fillings.
"Are you bloody well taking the piss Woman?" He boomed.
"No Sir, I'm not Sir." I though it was a smart move to sir him and show much needed respect. (They're all the same these Devs - just so bloody needy. But I'd remembered the 'Sir' technique from 42TurkeyTwizzlersInOneSitting Brown-Nosers How-To). I continued before he could interject...
"Its just that my reader likes to find out about our favourite Devs, Sir, and we're having this special week called 'Thank-a-Dev-Week', Sir, and I thought you might like to share something of yourself with us, Sir - you know through my website." I gushed like a gawky-embarrassed-14-year-old on her first date.
But it was too late. I realized I'd used the 'share' word again. Not all the 'Sirs' in the World could undo that calamity.
Well, as you can imagine, dear reader, the game was well and truly up! Any plans I'd had for scoring that night were now zilch, terminated and kapput. Thank you very much and goodnight, as John Cleese might say!
Our Not-So-Dishy-Dev kneeled at the door, peering back at me through the letter box with glassy unfocused eyes. Peering back I could see the gravy stains down his vest. They had been smeared as he'd tried to wipe them away. I could see his pupils were huge, like saucers.
Sharpening up his gaze and giving me a quick once-over he made his decision. I could see his brain working; he didn't look that bright to me, despite what they say.
"Clear off you miserable scrawny tart and tell 'em all - I SHARE NUFFINK WITH NO-ONE... Bastards..."
And with that he got up and disappeared up his passage. I could hear him repeating the word 'bastards', muttering to himself as he slipped from view.
So todays Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day is He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named and he wants you to know he shares nothing with anyone and he thinks we're all bastards. I've interpolated a bit; please excuse the artistic license.
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Share Code : No
View of XDA-Devs : Bastards
View of XDA-Mods : Bastards
View of XDA-Users : Bastards
Now, I want you to know I played no part in his demise on XDA. There were things I could have said at the time but decided, quite rightly in my view now, not to. Just like any good SRU member, I always fully support the Mods. They do a wonderful job. Thank you Mods! (For anyone interested I've just casually dropped a couple of other methods from 42TurkeyTwizzlersInOneSitting's Brown-Nose How-To - i.e unquestioning support and gratuitous thanks.)
And it's too late to carp now isn't it? No one likes resurrecting old flames or re-telling the mis-fortunes of others. Especially me. And so I wish him all the best and hope he finds himself again soon. (Methods 3 - explain away lack of action on your part, with 4 - plausible deniability, and 4 empathetic hope for some improved future state; BNHT)
So, on a lighter note, there you have it folks! And look out for tomorrow's Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day coming soon to sycophants-R-us! Are you a member yet? Remember pm 42turkeys if you want to join!
(I do hope we can get a better Dev response next time - any other committee member want to try? And what news from the American and Canadian Sycophants-R-us Chapters? Wasn't there an SRU group starting in India too?)
(c) Piss-Taking Productions Ltd: Pimlico, Poplar, Purley, Penge & Penzance. Distribution agreement with Cambridge Romano Anglo Press (c) C.R.A.P. 2010
Swoop Group: English Chapter. Away Game This Weekend
OK fellow Sycophants-R-Us members. We have our final Swoop Group meet coming up this weekend. It's a long one distance one this time, so bring extra batteries; I'm sure they'll be a long wait at the airport.
We are off to Hagfors! Flight leaves Gatwick at 13:10 this afternoon! So tell your boss you've got period pains or whatever excuse you boys use, and get on over to Gatwick.
Norwegian Airlines flight LGW-UME. But don't be deceived by the airline's name. 'Cos we're off to SWEDEN to Hug-a-Deliciously-Desirable-Dev and to let him know what his recent appearance on XDA means for us all!
See you all at check in!!
Sycophants-R-Us: Group Swoop to Sweden URGENT!!!!!
Where is everybody?
It's 12:15 and they're close to boarding the flight and I'm waiting in the departure lounge on my own! PM me to tell me where you are. Or better even, switch your blooming GPSes on so I can see your whereabouts in the SRU app.
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SRU Swoop Group trip to Hagfors, Sweden
Well, thanks a bunch, guys. Call yourselves sycophants? Your not worthy the name!
And did you need to be so horrid? I'm only trying to get through 'Thank-a-Dev-Week' and have a laugh with a few mates along the way. It is our last Dev-of-the-Day outing so I thought you all might make a bit of effort. But what do do?
That was a really nasty video you made, Dave. I did manage to download it from YouTube and see it ok, thanks. It had a bit of a red caste to it with a few dropped frames - who's ROM were you using? And yes, as you say, that picture was the spitting image of me, but did you really need to use it? Showing a small photo without that big red highlighter circled around the wart on my upper-lip might have been acceptable. But that A2 size was a bit unkind.
Yes, as you claim it is 'a bloody big wart'. Don't you think I don't know that? But I'm waiting - just like Nanny McPhee - for the thing to disappear on its own. If it worked for her; I'm sure it'll work for me.
But what really hurt was the chorus you sang at the end. I can see you were all tanked up but that's no excuse really.
What was it? That last bit? "What do we wanno go to Hagfors with a warty old HAG FOR?" Of course you just had to shout that last bit didn't you? Then you all fell on the floor laughing!
You can be so cruel, David.
Got to stop now; the stewardess has told me three times to switch my phone off. They've closed the doors. More news later - if the batteries last!
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lol, I see my nice idea we worked on in #villainrom completely failed lol.
ROFL
This needs to be in the top 10 awesome threads of 2010
Sycophants-R-Us: Traitors!
For completeness I'm going to finish 'Thank-a-Dev-Week come what may. And from what I know now about what you all have done - 'what may come' may be anything.
As I've told you before I don't like being beaten by the way events conspire. But I have to tell you, reader, (and if you think I'm going to call you 'dear reader' after you've all done you can sod-off). I have to tell you, 'reader', that my heart's not in it. Sycophants-R-Us died a little for me yesterday. Dave's video started it. But bloomin' well spending all that money getting to Sweden only to discover you all planned this together, has really taken the biscuit.
I'm just so depressed. I'm one hell of a mug aren't I?. I've spent a fortune; it's not like there's a Ryanair el-cheapo flight to get out here. No - it was a full-price scheduled flight I took, seemingly just to make myself look even more stupid.
I don't think I'll be able to hold my head up around SRU ever again. I imagine Doris, Mabel and Cecily will be casting pitying glances my way and smiling to themselves over their knitting while we play whist on the SRU coach outing to Bognor or where ever. Just because I don't knit and am a woman-into-phones they've always socially isolated me. I've always been an outsider with them. I didn't mind that so much because I could always talk with one of their husbands - that's one of you lot - about new ROMs and apps and stuff. I thought I'd been accepted as a kind of 'honorary man'. But now, you'll all be laughing behind my back too won't you? I don't think I can bear being an outcast any more.
And that self-styled Chief Brown-Noser, 42TurkeyTwizzlersInOneSitting - you know him - he's the one always playing pocket billiards whenever you see him standing at the bar. I know for a fact he's got very little to play with; Mrs 42TurkeyTwizzlersInOneSitting told me. And I'm not one to spread gossip, as you know, but using Twitter on my phone has been a revelation. The things you find out! And in almost real-time too! You wouldn't believe half of them unless, as I do, you knew they were true. 42TurkeyTwizzlersInOneSitting - is always very correct and proper when you meet him isn't he? Well... apparently. But he's really into spanking and bondage and stuff; like that Max Mottely, who was in the papers a while back.
His poor long suffering wife - that's 42TurkeyTwizzlersInOneSitting's wife not Max Mottley's - I don't know how she stands him. Well I do. She told me. She sends him off for 'funny sessions' in basement flats in London for 50 quid a pop. It keeps him off her knee though, doesn't it? And that's all that matters.
So why is he all the while so smug? He thinks he's the 'Supreme Sycophant' and that I'm beneath even his contempt. He started all this 'Thank-a-Dev-Week' crap that I've been struggling so hard to make work for us all. But what contribution does he make? A big fat nothing - that's what. Did he attend a swoop group? Like as hell he did.
What I want to know is... why does he always forget to adjust himself when he exits the toilet? I wonder if that makes him a closet exhibitionist as well as being into spanky-hanky-panky?
Many Devs are introverted-exhibitionists you know. That's what drives them. I know introversion and exhibitionism don't sit well together but it kind of makes sense. These Devs, our Devs, want to show off and let us all know how clever they are but they don't like mixing much with others. So they code ROMs in their bedrooms and wait for the adulation to arrive.
Devs like the word 'flash' too, I think. Look at the number of times they use it in their ROM release instructions. 'Flash this', 'flash that'. I believe it has subliminal connotations for them.
Instead of a real flash, you know, a widely-opened-proper-pervy-macintosh kind of flash, the sort that all we older women have seen at least half-a-dozen time in our lives. (And some of you boys have thought about doing, I bet). Well, in their minds - I'm sure they see it as surrogate flashing instead. They get their jollies in the certain knowledge that we're all loading their ROMs; at their behest; as fast as they can spin them. The real pervy-Devs sometimes release two or three ROMs in a day. I can only imagine they get very sore... if the adulation doesn't arrive.
And getting back to the point of all this; I'm still waiting here in Ulmea airport, Sweden. It 6:45 Saturday evening local time. I haven't eaten since having a rye crisp-bread on the plane yesterday; and I've no money. Well, that's not true. I have money. Just not the right money.
Because I flew to Sweden with Norwegian Airlines, I somehow got it into my head I needed Norwegian money. This'll be the icing on the cake for you lot. I've a 1000 krone note but no-one will change it as its too big! You know the same kind of hassle we get in the UK with £50 notes. So I've been doing some of the stuff Tom Hanks did when he got stuck at a US airport; but not nearly so successfully. I've tried being very feminine and helpless to attract a bit of chivalry.. It used to work years ago, pre-wart. but all I've managed to attract so far is the attention of airport security with a very stern warning to desist.
I won't tell you spending all night and all next day in an airport departure lounge is no fun; I'm sure you know that. What I will tell you is that discovering that everyone but me was in on this. That's the 'Me' that's been trying to jolly you all along. You know? This person; Me! The one trying so hard to kick some life into Sycophants-R-Us and Thank-a-Dev-Week. I only wanted to ensure you enjoy yourselves in the process of seeing that the Devs are thanked properly for their superb hard work on our behalves. They do a wonderful job you know.
It's taken me some time to realize what I'm doing at Ulmea Airport in Sweden. I remember full well the refrain - "Wha' do we wanna go to Hagfors with a warty old hag for?" So why am I here at Ulmea? Good question! And the answer came to me while I was wide awake at 3.45 this morning.
You all knew Hagfors wasn't on any major airline route from the UK didn't you? You only chose it to make a rhyme with 'hag for' in that horrid video. Didn't you, Dave? Didn't you? There's no need to answer because I've worked it out. When I phoned up asking if you knew where our New-Nordic-Swedish-Swishy-Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day lives you said you'd find out and call me back. I wondered why it took you so long, but you were ringing around the SRU Swoop Group and hatching your plan weren't you? It took me half the night to work it out. But I know. I know.
Our New-Nordic-Swedish-Swishy-Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day target lives in Gothenburg doesn't he? I've just looked it up on XDA. And you all knew that landing at Ulmea at 10:20 at night would put me hundreds of miles from Gothenburg with no chance of me getting any action with our New-Nordic-Swedish-Swishy-Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day. Even if I could have persuaded him to see the sensual woman beyond the wart.
Anyway just to spite you all I phoned him. He didn't say much. He's a bit embarrassed by his English pronunciation; although he didn't need to pronounce anything really. Apart, that is, from repeating what he learned from the video.
"What do we wanna go to Hagfors with a warty old hag for?" Followed by very deep-bass guttural laughing; that's all I could get out of him. I assume the video has gone mega on YouTube?
Well, I did say I was going to finish Thank-a-Dev-Week at the start didn't I. Just accept it's not as comprehensive as I would like but you pratts conspired against me and I really can't be bothered any more..
So, reader, our New-Nordic-Swedish-Swishy-Dishy-Dev-of-the-Day This is what I know.
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Live : Gothenburg (Ed. NOT Hagfors ;) )
Enjoy : Schadenfreude (Ed. No. It's not a German wine. I had to look it up too.)
So here I am, reconciled to to returning to the UK hundreds of pound poorer, perhaps a bit wiser and feeling lower than I thought I could possibly feel.
Oooh! My phone's trackball has just lit up. Well done to my ROM Dev for getting it working! I'd really like to see the LEDs flash alternately too; I'll write in and request the feature when I get back.
It's a message from the XDA Moderation Team. It looks kind of formal. Hang on while I read it.
I'm too upset to continue now and you'll have to wait while I get myself together. Oh I do need a good seeing to!
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Sycophants-R-Us: Banned!
Dear Croques,
Thank you for your letter re- 42turkeys requesting an update to his XDA-screen-name.
As we have made you aware earlier, the Senior Moderation Team, have not regarded your gratuitous use of sexual imagery to denigrate our male XDA users' self-esteem, in any favourable light.
You were also warned not to promote your own sexual proclivities or desires.
You were also asked to desist from promoting an external organization; namely Sycophants-R-Us.
You tell us that 'Thank-a-Dev-Week' has been - to use your words - 'a Turkey'. In that it had largely failed to attract any following what-so-ever. Neither from Developers or XDA users. Whilst that may be true, we have come to the view that your scornful imagery, seemingly at first reading sycophantic, actually is not. The ironic sub-plot is the absolute antithesis of your writing. Your real message is apparent to anyone with a Reading Age over 12. (We accept that excludes Sun readers). Hence we find your writing devalues everyone using the XDA Forums.
Your request to rename 42turkeys as 43turkeys whilst, semanitically mildly amusing, is denied.
Further, the name-calling and vicious flaming of XDA members is, as you have been warned, against XDA Forum rules.
We have regretfully decided to close your account on XDA with immediate effect. We warn you that any action on your part to rejoin with an alias screen-name will be carefully monitored and any such 'sister' accounts will be closed without notification.
Best wishes
The Senior Moderation Team.
XDA Forum.
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I'm gutted... bye everyone.
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I've decided to pull this project as it doesn't seem useful, or accurate! Feel free to pm if you have any ideas for me.
Where did the other benchmarks go?
All ICS ROM Benchmarks: this thread
Battery Drain Benchmarks: this thread
Kernel Features and Benchmarks: this thread
CPU Governors and I/O Schedulers: this thread
Power Saving Governors: this thread
Does SuperCharging work?: this thread
Methodology
I wrote a program in C++ with several routines:
1) copy all the thread's html all into one file
2) throw away all the html code
3) throw away anything from a quote
4) throw away any one letter words
5) throw away all punctuation except apostrophes/exclamation marks/question marks/periods/full-stops (also add a full-stop if it was missing at the end of a post)
Then the entire thread is uploaded in chunks of 400 words to an API http://www.alchemyapi.com/api/sentiment/
This returns a sentiment score for each 400 word chunk. It can be either positive or negative. Since most users are polite when they have a criticism, the scores tend to range from slightly negative to very positive.
[Q] What is 'sentiment analysis'?
[A] Find out more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentiment_analysis
- - - quote "Computers can perform automated sentiment analysis of digital texts, using elements from machine learning such as latent semantic analysis, support vector machines, "bag of words" and Semantic Orientation — Pointwise Mutual Information..." sourced from the above link.
Each 400 word block gets a score usually ranging somewhere between slightly negative and very positive. Each score forms the basis of my raw data.
I currently show this data as several graphs, but I may strip away some. The most useful graph (remember, my background is mathematics education...) is a combination of the entire thread's average score plus the average for the most recent 10%. This helps to highlight threads that have a history of good sentiment as well as continuing good sentiment.
Notes
Initial attempt (for posterity): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24451874&postcount=712
I couldn't have done this without the support of a few people in particular: tchaari (who first informed me of this marvellous field of sentiment analysis); harbb for joking around with me (which got me thinking about doing it for real); and glennkaonang for feedback and moral support. Special thanks to original21 who inspired me to provide the most recent data separately.
Thanks to the XDA community in general, the developers, and a special shout out to others who have been supportive in my previous works: CyberGR, simms22, morfic, krarvind, wildestpixel, kong, Oodie, steve.garon, brainmaster, mathkid95, DaXmax, AndroidUser00110001, hope I didn't I forget anyone
Thanks to anyone past, present and future who has any constructive criticism, or just hits my thanks button! It keeps me going! Thanks to the moderators for keeping me in check... and to google/samsung for the toys
another bedalus special treat in store
I have been thinking, you should actually join the Recognized Contributor as you contributed alot...
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I have been thinking, you should actually join the Recognized Contributor as you contributed alot...
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Nice to see that bedalus benchmarks are back
Very interesting work bedalus. The results in the spreadsheet are not always significant but it's a very good start that deserves many encouragements. I am thinking about if taking two words before and two words after each term can improve the readability of the results...
I have also another UX idea: coding some program that can evaluate (approximately) if a post is a positive feedback, negative feedback, a simple question or a simple answer. Then, a final average score is computed.
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I have been thinking, you should actually join the Recognized Contributor as you contributed alot...
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Thanks! I think I'm the most pleased with this one because it made me learn C++. I'm just wrapping my head around custom structs.
I've applied for the RC status. Don't know what the criteria are particularly, but I think I've produced some useful stuff. If I get it, I might order an XDA t-shirt, then my wife will be really concerned...
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Nice to see that bedalus benchmarks are back
Very interesting work bedalus. The results in the spreadsheet are not always significant but it's a very good start that deserves many encouragements. I am thinking about if taking two words before and two words after each term can improve the readability of the results...
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I'm one step ahead of you this time tchaari, the code for two words before and after is halfway there...
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I have also another UX idea: coding some program that can evaluate (approximately) if a post is a positive feedback, negative feedback, a simple question or a simple answer. Then, a final average score is computed.
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Isn't that what your brain is for?
EDIT: I'm just adding the link you PM'd me so I can find it more easily: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...-how-positive-or-negative-a-statement-text-is
UPDATE: Found the bug in my program that caused it to crash if there was only one page (with 50 posts per page) i.e. any young thread with less than 51 posts would fit on one page, and my program will only download the total number of pages -1 (it saves the last page for a new start page for when I update a thread). Fixed... now trying to get all the other threads.
bedalus said:
I'm one step ahead of you this time tchaari, the code for two words before and after is halfway there...
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Not really surprised. You are the top benchmark specialist here
bedalus said:
Isn't that what your brain is for
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Lol, that's true but we will all feel better if the machine can handle a little more computing and analysis from what our brains are cooking every day
You should really take a look on what's going on in the "natural language processing (NLP)" domain. If your program can be connected to some existing tools like [1] and [2], the results can be so interesting
[1] http://khassanali-nlp-research.blogspot.com/2008/01/nltk.html
[2] http://kmandcomputing.blogspot.com/2008/06/opinion-mining-with-rapidminer-quick.html
These are other refs on sentiment analysis and opinion mining from the NLP domain if someone is interested:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentiment_analysis
- http://eprints.qut.edu.au/29301/1/c29301.pdf
Bedalus, you made us addicted to your benchmarks. If you close one more of your thread, I'll go on a hunger strike with Oodie
Wow ! This looks Promising
Let's see wht this gives us & yeah ! It was boring in NS forums without you . lol .
Welcome back sir
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Good to be back? At least I'm happy you are back!
Greetzz, jojoost.
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Thanks for the kind words everyone! It's nice to be working on a thread again.
I got my program more stable. I found a more up to date version of wget for windows here by a guy called Oliver Krystal. It had the drivers built in.
I've removed the my program in the second post until I can locate the source of the instability. Last night I ran it and it managed to download most of the ROM threads, but crashed halfway through a long thread.
I'm going to tidy up the code and try and break it up into more manageable routines (most of the work is done in one long procedure at the moment, not very good practice... ) Then perhaps it'll be easier to debug.
When it's more stable I'll re-upload it.
@tchaari, maybe I do need to include some scoring algorithm, otherwise it's not really a benchmark is it! haha
Glad to see you back, bedalus.
This time you bring more headache to us having no experience at all in information technology with your testing methodology
Regarding improvements it needed, I think it's good enough already.
But the idea of that algorithm thing would make it more interesting, although it would bring more headache to me I guess
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I changed a couple of things in the build, now it runs without crashing, so I re-uploaded the program to the second post (along with the spreadsheet).
The included 0threads.txt file currently includes all the 4.0.4 ROMs that were on my ROMs spreadsheet (didn't bother with 4.0.3s).
Any new ROMs I don't know about?
Does anyone want me to stick in any kernel threads? Theme threads? Threads from other phones?
STILL TO DO:
-Modify the program to update by starting to downloading threads at the point I last read
-See if I can implement a five word phrase
-See if I can find or create any language analysis program to score the phrases
bedalus said:
Thanks! I think I'm the most pleased with this one because it made me learn C++. I'm just wrapping my head around custom structs.
I've applied for the RC status. Don't know what the criteria are particularly, but I think I've produced some useful stuff. If I get it, I might order an XDA t-shirt, then my wife will be really concerned...
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Lol. You contributed alot for the Nexus S development. Im sure the Senior Mod, will nominate you, if not, i will do it....
DaXmax said:
Lol. You contributed alot for the Nexus S development. Im sure the Senior Mod, will nominate you, if not, i will do it....
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Cool! Thanks!
UPDATE: All 4.0.4 ROMs (that I currently know of) now in the spreadsheet. Just working on the index.
Another quality thread in the making I think!
Good to see you back I was getting worried when all your threads were closing.