With ICS taking off (thanks to renowned members like roman, neobuddy, brick'd, and many more) ALOT of roms have been, and are going to continue to be, released.
I realize that we have complained for while about the development section being so quiet (understandably so), but we are on the verge of seeing quite the opposite.
This is great news!! but with this type of evolution comes many roms, kangs, ports, concepts, etc. its also going to bring out the noobs, flash-o-holics, and lesser experienced members. we are going to start seeing maaaany ics threads in development section, but people are going to ask: well, how is X different from Y???
my friendly suggestion to devs, kangers, porters is this: when posting a release thread, it would be doing a service to the forum, and yourself, to cite exactly what sets your release apart. whether its something major like source, or something minor like a theme - it will save users a lot of confusion, and it will save you the headache of your thread being cluttered with unhelpful questions and waste posts.
i just remember during the Froyo days, the dev section was loaded with virtually identical roms, with people releasing a "new build" that simply had framework edits, build.prop tweaks, and/or different apps. this is fine, i thought about releasing a themed/tweaked build myself at one point in time - but you have to explain it that way, otherwise it sucks for people flashing it hoping to get an all-around new rom experience.
so true...what about some Blue Myst for Ics? Still one of the best theme for Froyo...
My theming ambition has dropped drastically, as people have probably noticed. i think it has something to do with the fact that, quite frankly, im bored with the Vibrant.
I think it also has something to do with the fact that im STILL running Froyo. I was running CM7 stable for a while but i ran into this fatal bug that i could not figure out, and could not find a fix for, so i had to revert.
I only theme something that i know im going to be using for a while, and then i share my stuff with the forum. some might call it selfish, but my time is limited I was on the VERGE of making a theme for CM7 before i ran into that wall.
As far as ICS goes, its far too buggy for me right now, but there is SO much potential. every day there are steps made. im so OCD with my phone that it has to be close to perfect for me to consider using something as my everyday rom. ive ran most of the ICS roms out there, and i would definitely consider a theming project once they are stable.
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As far as ICS goes, its far too buggy for me right now, but there is SO much potential. every day there are steps made. im so OCD with my phone that it has to be close to perfect for me to consider using something as my everyday rom. ive ran most of the ICS roms out there, and i would definitely consider a theming project once they are stable.
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+1 on every part of this statement as I am the exact same way. I am hyper sensitive to my phone too. Maybe that is not such a bad thing though. Has definately led me to solve some of the issues out there too.
Was wanting to start theming Deranged9 and the it basically fell off the map while still waiting for the final to drop.
I may get flamed for this but I can't stand the ICS Blue. Not sure what I would want but the blue is not my favorite by any means. Even Generic McPlain grey would be better than the blue. But that is just me.
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+1 on every part of this statement as I am the exact same way. I am hyper sensative to my phone too. Maybe that is not such a bad thing though. Has definately led me to solve some of the issues out there too.
Was wanting to start theming Deranged9 and the it basically fell off the map while still waiting for the final to drop.
I may get flamed for this but I can't stand the ICS Blue. Not sure what I would want but the blue is not my favorite by any means. Even Generic McPlain grey would be better than the blue. But that is just me.
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im a big blue fan, but ICS is TOO blue...im more of a fan of the cyan-ish blue.
yah every ics rom out has its deal-breaking bug for me. the biggest one is the /datadata issue (low storage space). i run a lot of apps, and even if i could live without some, i like knowing that the space is there if i need it. i know zenwich doesnt use /datadata, but that leads to some really yucky lag.
like i said, very good progress is being made, but its not up to my PERSONAL standards yet. but i try as best i can to keep my standards to myself, becase they are unfairly high for our device at this point, and these devs work their asses off.
I agree too. Very good point. I too came to a stop with messing with my Vibrant. I look at ICS and I know if I flash that on my phone I'm going to end up editing the framework-res to exactly how I have it now. For me it makes no sense to mess with my phone the way it is. I'm just waiting to the price to drop on the SGSII so my wife and I could upgrade and then I'll start messing with those.
....and YES I am a BLUE lover....and YES I did hit the THX button .
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....and YES I am a BLUE lover....and YES I did hit the THX button .
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im proud to be the OP of the biggest flame thread in vibrant forum history...
Sorry I derailed your thread (actually it was mikka06 's fault) with my non-sensical mumblings that I don't like ICS's Blue.
I love blue. I usually pick out all the blue M&M's and Fruit Loops and eat them first. And even on St. Patrick's day, I don't dye my beer green, its blue or nothing. I just don't like the ICS Blue.
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Sorry I derailed your thread (actually it was mikka06 's fault) with my non-sensical mumblings that I don't like ICS's Blue.
I love blue. I usually pick out all the blue M&M's and Fruit Loops and eat them first. And even on St. Patrick's day, I don't dye my beer green, its blue or nothing. I just don't like the ICS Blue.
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you didnt derail! we are conversing.
Woodrube, i think you are the ideal member on this forum. you help out, dont expect anything, not in anyones face, and youre willing to learn things for yourself.
i would find it tough to criticize you, even if you did derail my thread, which you didnt
I appreciate this very much. I remember when I first registered with XDA and had no idea what I was doing. Couple of people took me in and showed me a few things and it was all basically trial and error.
Fast forward to when I came to the Vibrant forums and it was much different than it is now. Too many attitudes and too many senses of entitlement. As much as it sucked, I understood why CM left. Now most of those problematics have gone on to the SGSII or beyond and we have a new crop of people here.
Like it much better now.
Woodrube said:
I appreciate this very much. I remember when I first registered with XDA and had no idea what I was doing. Couple of people took me in and showed me a few things and it was all basically trial and error.
Fast forward to when I came to the Vibrant forums and it was much different than it is now. Too many attitudes and too many senses of entitlement. As much as it sucked, I understood why CM left. Now most of those problematics have gone on to the SGSII or beyond and we have a new crop of people here.
Like it much better now.
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BLUE? what in the name of god!
BLUE is the color of the shirt i'm wearing.
BLUE is on our(my) countries FLAG(usa)
BLUE is my favorite color.
HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE BLUE!
I shall call the FBI and report you immediately.
In other news, I also like Green.
xriderx66 said:
BLUE? what in the name of god!
BLUE is the color of the shirt i'm wearing.
BLUE is on our(my) countries FLAG(usa)
BLUE is my favorite color.
HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE BLUE!
I shall call the FBI and report you immediately.
In other news, I also like Green.
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What happened to all the great builds? All the great ones are now outdated, but aren't being replaced with a better one. The closest thing I have to what I want is Darkstone 2.1, but the battery life sucks balls.
I want this:
Nexus One-based Froyo
NO SENSE... God I hate that keyboard.
Decent battery life. Seriously, DS 2.1's is pitiful.
Black status bar.
NO CYANOGEN
Sorry, I'm in a ranty mood, I realize that it's not easy to make a build or anything, and all the devs deserve credit for their work even if I think some of it is pure crap.
Anyway, where the hell is Dan at? His v1 Froyo was the best...
try Mattc's, that is the closest to waht you are looking for.
He is supposed to be releasing v1.7 in a few hours.
psykick5 said:
What happened to all the great builds? All the great ones are now outdated, but aren't being replaced with a better one. The closest thing I have to what I want is Darkstone 2.1, but the battery life sucks balls.
I want this:
Nexus One-based Froyo
NO SENSE... God I hate that keyboard.
Decent battery life. Seriously, DS 2.1's is pitiful.
Black status bar.
NO CYANOGEN
Sorry, I'm in a ranty mood, I realize that it's not easy to make a build or anything, and all the devs deserve credit for their work even if I think some of it is pure crap.
Anyway, where the hell is Dan at? His v1 Froyo was the best...
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Can i ask why no Cyanogen?
I smell a lock and close this thread coming.
Might I ask where your contribution to the community might be?
MvP77 said:
Can i ask why no Cyanogen?
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I like vanilla.
torremitsu said:
I smell a lock and close this thread coming.
Might I ask where your contribution to the community might be?
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Completely agree... if he was at least donating and being in a pissy mud - I guess... but this way, try out every build like everyone else...
BTW - you will not get better battery life before Android goes onto Device Memory - why, it's because of SD CARD...
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BTW - you will not get better battery life before Android goes onto Device Memory - why, it's because of SD CARD...
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This isn't true - it might be part of the issue, but there are also problems with the drivers that are responsible for charging the battery in Android and I think that is really the main problem
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I like vanilla.
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Cyanogen is Vanilla, with tons of customizations (including the notifaction bar color) that you can apply yourself in the settings. Shu8i build is just themed.
Try one of the unthemed cyanogen versions like bangsters. even Shu81 has an unthemed version.
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This isn't true - it might be part of the issue, but there are also problems with the drivers that are responsible for charging the battery in Android and I think that is really the main problem
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In addition, how many more threads are going to be opened in which the same has to be told? I mean, the OP is not even a newcomer in the XDA Community. for whatever situation he might be going through, that is not the way to ask for something. Have you even consider doing something for Android to work better? If your answer is NO, then sit, relax and shut up (no offense.) This is a community, not your house. Im not a developer/programmer, but at least I took the time to see which Radio was the best for most android builds. I risked my 2 phones so other could enjoy a better android in theirs. I didnt come crying and kicking to ask someone who I dont know if he/she has another JOB/Life besides XDA, to fix my phone because im mad and its getting worse...
Im not sorry if this offended you, im sorry if it actually doesn't change your crappy attitude towards developers.
AS SOON AS I READ YOUR TOPIC TITLE I WAS LIKE "OH NO HE DIDNT...."
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In addition, how many more threads are going to be opened in which the same has to be told? I mean, the OP is not even a newcomer in the XDA Community. for whatever situation he might be going through, that is not the way to ask for something. Have you even consider doing something for Android to work better? If your answer is NO, then sit, relax and shut up (no offense.) This is a community, not your house. Im not a developer/programmer, but at least I took the time to see which Radio was the best for most android builds. I risked my 2 phones so other could enjoy a better android in theirs. I didnt come crying and kicking to ask someone who I dont know if he/she has another JOB/Life besides XDA, to fix my phone because im mad and its getting worse...
Im not sorry if this offended you, im sorry if it actually doesn't change your crappy attitude towards developers.
AS SOON AS I READ YOUR TOPIC TITLE I WAS LIKE "OH NO HE DIDNT...."
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I pointed this out in another thread. It seems some people believe that making roms for the community are the devs full time job, when in fact its a hobby and most do it with there spare time.
Look, it's just because it's surprising that the builds are declining in battery life, 7 hours on airplane mode and I lost 40%?? Seriously?
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In addition, how many more threads are going to be opened in which the same has to be told? I mean, the OP is not even a newcomer in the XDA Community. for whatever situation he might be going through, that is not the way to ask for something. Have you even consider doing something for Android to work better? If your answer is NO, then sit, relax and shut up (no offense.) This is a community, not your house. Im not a developer/programmer, but at least I took the time to see which Radio was the best for most android builds. I risked my 2 phones so other could enjoy a better android in theirs. I didnt come crying and kicking to ask someone who I dont know if he/she has another JOB/Life besides XDA, to fix my phone because im mad and its getting worse...
Im not sorry if this offended you, im sorry if it actually doesn't change your crappy attitude towards developers.
AS SOON AS I READ YOUR TOPIC TITLE I WAS LIKE "OH NO HE DIDNT...."
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Offended me? It would hypocritical if I posted a rant about hard-working developers and in turn was sensitive myself. Anyway it's quite true what you've said, it's just the battery life is getting unbearably pitiful.
Sir Cyanogen isnt the theme that shu8i is using.
The theme is shiftedx's theme.
Cyanogen is a build based on asop with some addon's. Most of the addons are things that has caused the community grow.
~~> http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
As far as battery life. You do realize that the Hd2 was never ment to have android.
lets go back in time before dcordes decided to take on this project. I'd be a sad panda if he decided to stop trying.
Sir I think the best bet for you would be to create your own build.
Or if jesusfreke Would come back on the scene.
heres an idea. get a portable battery charger duracell makes them. They come in many different connection types. no matter what you do these days will batter life be fair. it's been written and proven. google it. theres an article out there battery life never gets the upgrade like other hardware and software upgrades do.
sherlockpwnz said:
heres an idea. get a portable battery charger duracell makes them. They come in many different connection types. no matter what you do these days will batter life be fair. it's been written and proven. google it. theres an article out there battery life never gets the upgrade like other hardware and software upgrades do.
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Darkstone V2.0's battery life was amazing. All day? No way! Yes way!
psykick5 said:
Darkstone V2.0's battery life was amazing. All day? No way! Yes way!
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Yeah, but what you also have to remember is that developers are not mostly working on battery standards. instead, they are working to have every single function on the HD2 (including the hidden ones) working normally and then to perfect them. I think that is a nice plan
psykick5 said:
What happened to all the great builds? All the great ones are now outdated, but aren't being replaced with a better one. The closest thing I have to what I want is Darkstone 2.1, but the battery life sucks balls.
I want this:
Nexus One-based Froyo
NO SENSE... God I hate that keyboard.
Decent battery life. Seriously, DS 2.1's is pitiful.
Black status bar.
NO CYANOGEN
Sorry, I'm in a ranty mood, I realize that it's not easy to make a build or anything, and all the devs deserve credit for their work even if I think some of it is pure crap.
Anyway, where the hell is Dan at? His v1 Froyo was the best...
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Almost all those builds are just original nexus one or htc desire rips. It is the kernel that makes those builds great mainly.
I think shubcraft and mattc are the most frequently updated builds and they are better than those old builds.
If you absolutely want vanilla, try shubcraft REALSTOCK from http://www.vbnfiles.com/xda/shu8i/
Since it does not contain sense, cyanogen is vanilla with improvements.
Cyanogen can change status bar color.
You can make those old builds you mention better with new kernel and modules from http://oe.netripper.com/files/htcleo_autobuild/?C=M;O=D (Since that is basically what you will get if newer versions of them are released)
I have %1 per hour standby battery drain with shubcraft (cyanogen) I can turn on/off anything from the power control widget. My Android does not use more battery then winmo when screen is on or off. Don't forget to kill apps with advanced task killer. Keep wifi bt gps data and preferably 3g off when you don't use. Don't use 100% backlight. You'll match my battery consumption. (Don't forget to disable autorotate from settings display to stop touch freezes)
There are almost 10 ten keyboards to choose from. You can install any keyboard you want. I recommend HTC_IME_MOD by jonas high resolution because it has volume keys as right left arrow function.
thesweeney said:
LMAO ^^^
Ok enough of this.....
THREAD CLOSED!
Only joking, I can only dream of becoming a mod here
Carry on....
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+1
guys gotta report flaming and stuff so we can get to it
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I have a sickness ... not sure what it is called, or if you would even call it a sickness.
Here I am, staring at my Droid Incredible, after having just "un-rooted" AGAIN. I have had this phone since June, and I LOVE IT! I love the fact that you can do so much to it and tweak every aspect of it. It keeps me interested and busy playing with the phone. I have rooted and un-rooted so many times. I have loaded so many different roms with different themes. I am starting to get to the point where I wish I could find a good setup so I can just leave it alone and use it normally, instead of "hacking" it once or twice a week. It sucks! I can't leave it alone. I read about so many cool updated or new ROMS and feel I want to try them out.
Do any of you have the same issue? It is difficult for me to be satisfied so I am always changing my phone. I am tempted to just give it up and get a dumb-phone that just calls and txt's, and maybe get an iPod Touch for music, browsing, and games ... but I know I will end up jail breaking it and tinkering with it. It is a waste of my time! LOL
Anyway, just wanted to vent for a minute to see if it helps me.
I want to find a good setup and stick with it. I am sick of wasting my time rooting, romming, unrooting, etc. I can't help it though ... it's so much fun!
Thanks for reading.
im the same... but i find it normal if you are changing roms every week... i mean normal as in a "normal" rooted user.
isn't this the very reason why we use android though? if we wanted a setup that "just works" and never changes we would all have iphones. apparently that crowd can live with the same setup for 2 years (not that it's really changed since it's debut)!! how can they NOT get tired of looking at the same ole thing for that long?!?
anyways, unless it's ruining your life... keep doing what makes you happy.
PhillyCheez said:
im the same... but i find it normal if you are changing roms every week... i mean normal as in a "normal" rooted user.
isn't this the very reason why we use android though? if we wanted a setup that "just works" and never changes we would all have iphones. apparently that crowd can live with the same setup for 2 years (not that it's really changed since it's debut)!! how can they NOT get tired of looking at the same ole thing for that long?!?
anyways, unless it's ruining your life... keep doing what makes you happy.
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I used to have a iphone
And yes I got tired of the same look but mine was jailbroken so I could change the look but then came android
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PhillyCheez said:
im the same... but i find it normal if you are changing roms every week... i mean normal as in a "normal" rooted user.
isn't this the very reason why we use android though? if we wanted a setup that "just works" and never changes we would all have iphones. apparently that crowd can live with the same setup for 2 years (not that it's really changed since it's debut)!! how can they NOT get tired of looking at the same ole thing for that long?!?
anyways, unless it's ruining your life... keep doing what makes you happy.
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Thanks for the inspiration.
I think it has something to do with my OCD as well. Trying to find the perfect ROM/KERNEL/THEME that will give max battery life and performance etc.
Maybe I should just limit myself to once a month.
I always go between CM6 and Virtuous, and sometimes branch out to another ROM but always go back to the two (CM6 & V). I go to Virtuous for the stability and familiarity, and go to CM6 for something different than SenseUI and more experimental.
I just mostly get tired of having to set up my apps and settings over and over.
Thanks again.
superchilpil said:
I used to have a iphone
And yes I got tired of the same look but mine was jailbroken so I could change the look but then came android
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yeah, if i ever get a iphone i think jailbreakin is a must! an android user is just spoiled from the beginning cause they can do everything a jailbroken iphone can do stock!
Addicted Android User Anonymous 12-step program?
But yah, I agree... right there with you.
wryun said:
Thanks for the inspiration.
I just mostly get tired of having to set up my apps and settings over and over.
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yeah, that can get tiring. but what is nice though is that after you are all done setting up your new ROM you can backup and it's saved. It's like saving different "Scenes".
Diddling the Droid
Yep, that's what it's called by some.....
I'm there with you, continuous tweaks and mods.
Of late, I've mostly been goofing w/ different kernels - like the Redemption Rom pretty well. Beyond that, I'm seeing what difference(s) [if any] the larger sd card makes.
Even watching fewer college football games (actively anyway) on Saturdays.. blasphemy ...to mess with the phone....
There is a support section here on xda for your problem just search for it the thread is really funny.
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I tried jail breaking my ipod touch. Just as useless as before. I finally got it to take a theme which is ok, but removing their bloat ware no go. Just for kicks and giggles I got it to load an android battery charging themed page. LOL! But for customization the android platform is the best. I love my Incredible!
This is very true for me too. I just didn't have the humility to post it.
Where is this "support" section?
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These things are just high-tech crack pipes, and ROMs are just downloadable crack rocks, and rmk40, ihtfp69, kingklick and all the others are just a bunch of crack dealers. This site and the other Android dev sites are like street corners - I'm checking them on a daily basis looking for fresh crack. The analogy breaks down when considering that none of this costs any money (other than voluntary donations) which just fuels the addiction. We're a bunch of crackheads smoking free crack and can't get enough. We definately need a 12 step program around here and a "Droid Incredible Rehab" forum section might be a good idea ;-).
rmk40 is releasing Virtuous 3.0.0 tonight or tomorrow so that'll be the next hit I take. Time to stock up on steel wool.
-M
smw420 said:
These things are just high-tech crack pipes, and ROMs are just downloadable crack rocks, and rmk40, ihtfp69, kingklick and all the others are just a bunch of crack dealers. This site and the other Android dev sites are like street corners - I'm checking them on a daily basis looking for fresh crack. The analogy breaks down when considering that none of this costs any money (other than voluntary donations) which just fuels the addiction. We're a bunch of crackheads smoking free crack and can't get enough. We definately need a 12 step program around here and a "Droid Incredible Rehab" forum section might be a good idea ;-).
-M
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Well said.
Its called Obsessive Rom updating disorder, or ord, you're not alone, check the forums for the thread
Incredible
I, too, have the sickness.
Yup, been there too. The thing that finally snapped me out of it was when my girl got angry with me for always being unreachable because I was flashing one thing or another.
I've since settled on Virtuous, as the stability just can't be beat.
The question really is: What is the point of your phone?
For me, my phone is a communication device first, entertainment second.
What's the point of YOUR phone?
gmichaelow said:
Yup, been there too. The thing that finally snapped me out of it was when my girl got angry with me for always being unreachable because I was flashing one thing or another.
I've since settled on Virtuous, as the stability just can't be beat.
The question really is: What is the point of your phone?
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My gf always gets my voicemail, she tells me "guess your playing with your phone again",
Ive had my phone since june like the OP, I stumbled across this website 1 day and since then honestly from that day, ive not left my phones rom,radio, or kernel alone for more than a day. I too wish I could just leave it be, lol. Sometimes I wish It would fall in water, or drop hard enough to break!
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smw420 said:
These things are just high-tech crack pipes, and ROMs are just downloadable crack rocks, and rmk40, ihtfp69, kingklick and all the others are just a bunch of crack dealers. This site and the other Android dev sites are like street corners - I'm checking them on a daily basis looking for fresh crack. The analogy breaks down when considering that none of this costs any money (other than voluntary donations) which just fuels the addiction. We're a bunch of crackheads smoking free crack and can't get enough. We definately need a 12 step program around here and a "Droid Incredible Rehab" forum section might be a good idea ;-).
rmk40 is releasing Virtuous 3.0.0 tonight or tomorrow so that'll be the next hit I take. Time to stock up on steel wool.
-M
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LOL you hit it on the nose there. Before I even read this thread, when I saw the thread title I knew what it was about. I love my setup (ruby 1.1.1) but I am itching to install something new. I wake up in the middle of the night and start fiddling with my phone, wondering what else I can install or change. lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Ang3lmack said:
Its called Obsessive Rom updating disorder, or ord, you're not alone, check the forums for the thread
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Found it!
ORD
ORD Support Group
Thanks for pointing this out. LOL
So, I decided to load Virtuous back on since it has all I want, including stability, which is most important. Everything works plain and simple. Besides, I use LauncherPro Plus so it's nice to have a stable ROM underneath it. The dev for Virtuous is very active and updates a lot, so I get my "hits" frequently. LOL
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Found it!
ORD
ORD Support Group
Thanks for pointing this out. LOL
So, I decided to load Virtuous back on since it has all I want, including stability, which is most important. Everything works plain and simple. Besides, I use LauncherPro Plus so it's nice to have a stable ROM underneath it. The dev for Virtuous is very active and updates a lot, so I get my "hits" frequently. LOL
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Ah! [email protected]!
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
Relax bro, all good things will come. I was able to mod my phone a lot because these devs are putting all they can into our phone's development.
We already have lag fixes, OC kernels, debloating tutorials, backlight mods, standard unlocking screens, etcetc. Not to mention plenty of themes, apps, and other cool things.
Just relax and take a breather. We got froyo on the way and developers are waiting for that so they can really unleash the beast.
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WTF do you need that wasn't described in Post #2?
Don't say Froyo, because that's something EVERYONE wants. My phone does everything I want it to at a blazing speed, maybe you're just lazy and don't look into things deeper. IDK.
jorge3687 said:
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I am very very very very very very happy with it. Only lacking .gif support in the browser. But that's what 2.2 is for.
good day. From the Fascinate sporting the XDA app.
if you want to customize your phone learn to make apps,themes, and what not your self.you can't customize your phone if you don't put effort into it. don't complain if you won't contribute and work at it
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mackeydesigns said:
WTF do you need that wasn't described in Post #2?
Don't say Froyo, because that's something EVERYONE wants. My phone does everything I want it to at a blazing speed, maybe you're just lazy and don't look into things deeper. IDK.
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Exactly. Or phones are more than capable, and this is without much overclocking and froyo. My phone is ridiculously fast and stable, and its one hell of a looker
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jt1134 said:
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Hahahaha <wipes tears>
I'm just happy to not have Bing. I'd let the devs have a round /w my wife for that.
Dynomike1 said:
Hahahaha <wipes tears>
I'm just happy to not have Bing. I'd let the devs have a round /w my wife for that.
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...you mean another round...right?
(Did nobody tell him?!?!)
Actually, there are devs but they don't have the froyo kernal to work with. SGS international version has the kernal leaked, that's why they have the froyo-beta-ish roms.
Redwing said:
...you mean another round...right?
(Did nobody tell him?!?!)
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Lol omg
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jorge3687 said:
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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Having come from an N1, which is inarguably the most dev friendly Android phone to date, I have to whole heartedly disagree with the OP. It is a little aggravating dealing with Voodoo now and then, and the processes are a little different, but all in all this phone is fantastic.
I have a custom bare-bone type rom built, fully themed and customized to my hearts content. Four installed launchers that each have a completely different style and feel which I can switch at will. OC Voodoo lag and color fix kernel running on interactive thanks to Jt, and plenty of mix and match mods and hacks to keep me flashing back and forth so frequently no one can actually call me.
We do only have a handful of devs working on the fascinate currently. They happen to also be pretty damn awesome, and give us plenty to work and play with.
I have to re-ask the question, what the hell are you actually looking to do that you can't?
jorge3687 said:
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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This guy seems to complain a lot, and doesn't really contribute to the conversation or development efforts. I'm going to decline to further feed the trolls...
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This guy seems to complain a lot, and doesn't really contribute to the conversation or development efforts. I'm going to decline to further feed the trolls...
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I think he is trying to come out of black screen issue.
good day.
How come everyone who has a bad experience, or is disapointed with there device gets called a troll? Isnt this the purpose of the Forums....to speak your opinion, learn a few things and see if anyone feels the same way?
I remember when everyone ...well people still do make fun of apple fan boyz because thats all they love is apple....but i have the feeling android fanz are becoming the same thing....close minded and haterz!!!
The purpose of android was openess and freedom....so wake up people the trolls are not those who complain about a priduct they paid good $$$$ money fir but are disapointed... the trolls are the haterz and people who beleive that there the best and there way is the only way!!!
Generally because you can sum up their complaints to a) why aren't devs giving me what I want now b) I have had my phone a month, understand very little but need to complain, or c) this phone sucks, I had my g1 for a year and we had tons of mods, dev r teh lazy.
So yeah, trolls.
If they were here to learn... The complaints wouldn't be their posting topics, they would be off learning. They are here to feed off others works and complain.
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How come everyone who has a bad experience, or is disapointed with there device gets called a troll? Isnt this the purpose of the Forums....to speak your opinion, learn a few things and see if anyone feels the same way?
I remember when everyone ...well people still do make fun of apple fan boyz because thats all they love is apple....but i have the feeling android fanz are becoming the same thing....close minded and haterz!!!
The purpose of android was openess and freedom....so wake up people the trolls are not those who complain about a priduct they paid good $$$$ money fir but are disapointed... the trolls are the haterz and people who beleive that there the best and there way is the only way!!!
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I gotta disagree with you, the thread is posted in the general section. If hes disapointed with the phone. I think its good if he tells us why. Im disapointed not because of support with the phone but because alot of stuff out the box doesnt work as advertised.....gps lag etc............and yes there are lag fixes but i paid top $$$ for it to work out the box not for me to go find a fix.
either way i think the word troll is used to freely.
BingoDanny said:
I gotta disagree with you, the thread is posted in the general section. If hes disapointed with the phone. I think its good if he tells us why. Im disapointed not because of support with the phone but because alot of stuff out the box doesnt work as advertised.....gps lag etc............and yes there are lag fixes but i paid top $$$ for it to work out the box not for me to go find a fix.
either way i think the word troll is used to freely.
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I agree with you about the general section & out of the box comment. Its just that there are many other threads with the same topic. But he has the right to post this question, and I was merely asking what was wrong with the phone according to him. Out of the box, the phone is still very capable and it honestly doesnt need to be modded. But the mods are very nice.
Also what phone is perfect stock? There's always cons, and that's why we're on the forums looking for answers.
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no phone is perfect.... that's why were all always going to complain lolol
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Exactly if there was any phone close to perfect for me out would be this. The iPhone is totally out of the picture.
That's about it for me. But first a point or two.
Why I came here, what I hoped to provide and why I'm done:
I will be the first one to acknowledge that TW have this thing down way better than I do! I am running Nero Beta 3 as I am typing this! It would have taken me forever to come up with a 2.2 mounting fix, FOREVER. Even more, they were kind enough to give me my own repo on their site. They have been great to me and I have learned so much from them.
BUT, I wanted to provide a little variety for people between the Eugene/Master/TW releases. I think I did just that.
Mjollnir: My first try at a rom, nothing more that just a really, really big theme.
sXe: My second try which included backwards compatible framework.
Volholl: My JK2 / JK6 / JL1 Hybrid
Volholl Valkyrie: Pure JL4
Volholl Ragnarok: Only known 2.2.1 port released for Vibrant, with working wifi and gps - even with the signal related soft boot bug, I was the only one brave enough to put it all on the line and release it,
Volholl PepperKake : Pure JL5 with all images, sounds plus, plus ripped from Nexus S dump
How is it so easy to criticize someone who spends countless hours putting something together for you for free? When you have done nothing for the community other than demand more?
As far as I know, everyone respects sombionix, yet even he has had to come on here and defend a stock release because everyone kept complaining that it MAY have included TW init - which it didn't.
So, that is my rant.
I will continue to release Roms, Themes, whatever you decide to call them - they just won't be posted on XDA for a while, or ever..
Sorry to see it came to this man since I think you have provided some really useful stuff. Sad how people feel the need to troll and criticize things needlessly but I will continue to follow you else where.
Woahhh... Wait, what happened.? I got back within the hour from being with family on Christmas.. More people trolling & flaming people? Didn't we just have a town hall meeting?
Yeah but some people just don't appreciate the hard work of you guys. All they do is come here and complain over little insignificant things because they apparently font get enough attention at home. I don't blame heathen at all for dumping this place. Good thing I can still use his stuff on tw forums.
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I am new to this forum and I was lucky enough to grab your Nexus clone for the Vibrant. I absolutely love this rom. That is all.
Honestly, the Vibrant section of this site is going to hell with all these pr*cks pissing off those that actually do something for others. These are the worst of the worst, because not only do they not do anything, but they keep others from doing work as well. Do we really have to be such a$$es while offering criticism?
masr1979 said:
Honestly, the Vibrant section of this site is going to hell with all these pr*cks pissing off those that actually do something for others. These are the worst of the worst, because not only do they not do anything, but they keep others from doing work as well. Do we really have to be such a$$es while offering criticism?
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I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
jellette said:
I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
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Hey thats great jillette. Please do post ur ROMs here on xda..cos we really appreciate ur work
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bosslabs said:
Hey thats great jillette. Please do post ur ROMs here on xda..cos we really appreciate ur work
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Indeed we do!
most users here do appreciate all developers work. its just the few idiots/trolls with loud voices who spoil it for everyone else
kboater said:
most users here do appreciate all developers work. its just the few idiots/trolls with loud voices who spoil it for everyone else
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Agreed....I for one respect all the hardworking developers (and other people who take out the time to post something that others benefit from) and really dislikedislike those who try to mess it up for everyone because they have nothing better to do...
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jellette said:
I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
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Post them other than here on xda...
Pm them to people, or at TW's site. You or the other devs should be treated this way.
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jellette said:
I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
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I know I am really enjoying your latest rom. Out of all the roms available yours is the one I am using.
gotta say, i've never flashed one of your roms, but don't stopping making them available.
some people are douches and don't deserve what the community does for them.
what have they done?
just keep on keepin on. if for no other reason than you are, i'm sure, learning a bunch of cool **** and having fun.
normal android devices, and the atrix on 2.2, use some standard nice screen transitions. to enter an app, zoom in. entering each subsequent screen the page swoops from the right. and backing out the screen swoops back to the left.
now on 2.3.4, EVERY single transitino is a zoom in/out, and i have never seen such an ugly horrendous idea before. anyone know if there is a way to bring the device back to the stock method? maybe in custom ROM with frameworks edit or something?
just can't comprehend how someone thought "hey, this looks great, let's change it to this way". am i crazy?
Yeh it sucks, but you'll get used to it...
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RogerPodacter said:
am i crazy?
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Yes.
But to fix your "problem" go to settings, display, then animation. Pick no animation to get rid of any transition. I don't think there is a way to get back to froyo transitions.
And now that I think about it, I don't remember it ever swooping left or right. I had a zoom in to enter an app and a hard cut home when leaving an app.
Oh it swooped left and right, I just confirmed this on 2.2. Its the standard android way. We read left to right. Right is forward, left is backwards, its a very valuable ui element to all android phones flow.
Of course for now I disabled animations, but that looks bad too. I just can't believe it, I truly am blown away by this.
I don't c anything wrong with them
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I enjoy the screen animations
In this link you find UI Animations:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774738
I dont mean to be a **** but really..?
We just need HUGE thread about how everyone hates little things in the new GB update. stickied at that matter. cause its so important to post about how you dont like the animations in GB.
XDA ATRIX forums were plagued with "when is GB coming" now its plagued with "this looks ugly" "i dont like this in GB". I'm sure it wasn't easy for moto to make this at all. if you guys like the old boring crap on froyo them go back to froyo.
Theme it, change it, learn to Dev, etc.
stratax said:
I dont mean to be a **** but really..?
We just need HUGE thread about how everyone hates little things in the new GB update. stickied at that matter. cause its so important to post about how you dont like the animations in GB.
XDA ATRIX forums were plagued with "when is GB coming" now its plagued with "this looks ugly" "i dont like this in GB". I'm sure it wasn't easy for moto to make this at all. if you guys like the old boring crap on froyo them go back to froyo.
Theme it, change it, learn to Dev, etc.
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lol, +1 /10 Chars
stratax said:
I dont mean to be a **** but really..?
We just need HUGE thread about how everyone hates little things in the new GB update. stickied at that matter. cause its so important to post about how you dont like the animations in GB.
XDA ATRIX forums were plagued with "when is GB coming" now its plagued with "this looks ugly" "i dont like this in GB". I'm sure it wasn't easy for moto to make this at all. if you guys like the old boring crap on froyo them go back to froyo.
Theme it, change it, learn to Dev, etc.
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I get it, but I am saying that I've not hated something so much and been this annoyed at something in the last 10 years. I literally hate it with a passion and ruins the experience totally for me. Its that bad for me.
Edit: and yes I do have dev experience and will see how if possible to add it back so but this isn't a simple theme solution as the transitions are likely part of the moto frameworks or similar. I'll definitely look and try to learn more. I committed a couple hundred lines of code to the cyanogen repository last year and it got merged in to final, but I'm not so great in the grand scheme of these awesome devs.
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I get it, but I am saying that I've not hated something so much and been this annoyed at something in the last 10 years. I literally hate it with a passion and ruins the experience totally for me. Its that bad for me.
Edit: and yes I do have dev experience and will see how if possible to add it back so but this isn't a simple theme solution as the transitions are likely part of the moto frameworks or similar. I'll definitely look and try to learn more. I committed a couple hundred lines of code to the cyanogen repository last year and it got merged in to final, but I'm not so great in the grand scheme of these awesome devs.
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yeah, all smartass aside jokes. im sure we will get someone to make animations. usually takes a while.
need stable ROM, then themes, then hacks/mods, then little things like animations. usually how it goes. we dont have a completely stable (custom) ROM. that i know of that is. like MIUI, CM7.
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I get it, but I am saying that I've not hated something so much and been this annoyed at something in the last 10 years. I literally hate it with a passion and ruins the experience totally for me. Its that bad for me.
Edit: and yes I do have dev experience and will see how if possible to add it back so but this isn't a simple theme solution as the transitions are likely part of the moto frameworks or similar. I'll definitely look and try to learn more. I committed a couple hundred lines of code to the cyanogen repository last year and it got merged in to final, but I'm not so great in the grand scheme of these awesome devs.
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wow buddy you need to not stress so much off of phone animations. turn them off or load a different rom.
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I get it, but I am saying that I've not hated something so much and been this annoyed at something in the last 10 years. I literally hate it with a passion and ruins the experience totally for me. Its that bad for me.
Edit: and yes I do have dev experience and will see how if possible to add it back so but this isn't a simple theme solution as the transitions are likely part of the moto frameworks or similar. I'll definitely look and try to learn more. I committed a couple hundred lines of code to the cyanogen repository last year and it got merged in to final, but I'm not so great in the grand scheme of these awesome devs.
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lol man... I think you need you need to find something more meaningful in your life if this is what makes your blood boil.
It was a little exaggerated obviously. But I do hate it immensely. It would be a good project to change it back.
I'm surprised this thread got even any opposition. Surely the other android phones you guys used had this. There isn't a single android yet like this till the atrix on 2.3.4. First of its kind.
I don't like the stupid animations in gingerbread,too but going to get used to with hate or love.
CognAtrix has standard animations....
RogerPodacter said:
It was a little exaggerated obviously. But I do hate it immensely. It would be a good project to change it back.
I'm surprised this thread got even any opposition. Surely the other android phones you guys used had this. There isn't a single android yet like this till the atrix on 2.3.4. First of its kind.
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i honestly really like every animation in this build, just my two cents
designgears said:
CognAtrix has standard animations....
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where can we find it? i dont see it in your sig or on xda or on google?! i would love to go back to standard too, besides the CRT screen on and off, haha, I love those.
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I don't like the stupid animations in gingerbread,too but going to get used to with hate or love.
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Well for reference, gingerbread on all devices uses the standard method. Zoom in/out for the entry and exit point of the app to home screen, with all screen changes inside the app swoops left and right for forwards and backwards. Only moto changed to all zooms on gb, and they had it right on froyo.
All zooms actually messes you up a bit if you're doing some fast navigating around the device.
Try this zip with metamorph: http://bit.ly/qkX7df
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