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The full specs on the Samsung’s Galaxy Tab have been out for a little while now, and I’m impressed with the device. Samsung have now priced the Galaxy Tab at $600, but have been taking some criticism for doing so. In my opinion I believe that the price tag is more than justified considering what you’re getting. First off the Galaxy tab is $30 cheaper than the 3G version of the iPad, but has features that beat out the iPad. It’s got front and back facing cameras, augmented reality (which is sick by the way) and a better touch screen with a higher pixel density. In a perfect world this would be the thing that has everyone riled up, rather than the iPad.
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I think $600 will be reasonable if it is close to perfect out of the box. I've had my Vibrant since launch day and although I am very happy with it, there are some things about it that are unexcusable. The lag is obviously an issue, as well as the terrible stock e-mail application. My biggest concern is that Samsung will not get updates out for the device in a timely manner. I've waited for months for the Froyo update for the Vibrant, I don't want to purchase the Tab for $600 and have to wait 6 months to have Gingerbread and Honeycomb to come along. For $400, maybe even $500, the Tab would be a day one purchase. However at the $600 price point, I'll be waiting for the Notion Ink Adam or maybe even the Blackberry Playbook. Both of those devices seem to have better hardware and should have better battery life.
Plus Sprint announced their version. $399 with 2 year contract. $20 for 2GB of Data. When you factor this in the Sprint version 2 year cost of ownership is $879. The Verizon version does not require a contract so if you went WiFi only the cost of ownership over 2 years is $280 cheaper. I think the Verizon version is a better buy then Sprint or iPad.
One of the other cool things that the Galaxy Tab has over the iPad is the fact that because it’s portable, it can serve multiple purposes. With the 3G version you can use it as a car GPS for example. Now of course you could do the same with the iPad but the iPad, though small, is still too bulky to ever work as a truly portable tool.
I think all versions have GPS. So you wont need 3g for a-gps...
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I think $600 will be reasonable if it is close to perfect out of the box. I've had my Vibrant since launch day and although I am very happy with it, there are some things about it that are unexcusable. The lag is obviously an issue, as well as the terrible stock e-mail application. My biggest concern is that Samsung will not get updates out for the device in a timely manner. I've waited for months for the Froyo update for the Vibrant, I don't want to purchase the Tab for $600 and have to wait 6 months to have Gingerbread and Honeycomb to come along. For $400, maybe even $500, the Tab would be a day one purchase. However at the $600 price point, I'll be waiting for the Notion Ink Adam or maybe even the Blackberry Playbook. Both of those devices seem to have better hardware and should have better battery life.
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I don't particularly see how the Playbook would have significantly better battery life. It could only save power through the 3g stack (same as on their handsets) which won't make much practical difference when the screen is slurping so much. As for the Adam, well it weighs nearly double the Tab.
As for the specs, yes those devices have a little more in RAM, but not much else. I doubt that in practice you could tell the difference. Also, the Adam is going to force you to use its own market, so thats a HUGE downside to me. Also, you can't get the Notion in contract to my knowledge, so you will HAVE to pay the full list, no choice to get a carrier subbed one and spread the cost.
Also, yes the Tab is reasonably priced.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/22/motorola-xoom-launching-february-17th-at-best-buy/
$700 for the 32GB model? Hmm...
The price is way to high. $400 tops.
That isn't cheap by any means but keep in mind that the wifi model should be quite a bit cheaper than this, wouldn't be holding my breath for $400 though.
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WTF is Moto thinking here?
These price leaks have FAIL written all over them. No eff'in way will you see me shell out more than $500 for a glorified internet browser/PSP. Make a port of a useful program like Eclipse and a way to write and run code... and we'll talk.
The use cases for tablets are out there, but none of them are compelling enough to price in the laptop range. I mean, this thing is a beast spec wise, but offers less than 1/3rd of the functionality. Can I write code, model 3d... etc? Damn it, $200 more and I could buy an eff'ing macbook (w/ student discount).
I'm not sure I understand who their target market its. I am in the market for a tablet, but that flat out prices me OUT of that tablet. It's a 1st generation, no history, no followers that want an upgrade...nothing like that. Everyone I know that has an iPad is happy with it and I don't think they are going to pull many from that market (especially the apple-holics). While I'm glad to see the price drop from $800 to $700.....that is a $hit ton of coin for a gadget. I know tablets are more than "just" gadgets but I'm willing to guess most of us have laptop, smartphones, and PCs....so in that sense, it is sorta like a new gadget cuz we clearly don't "need" it.
I really don't understand how they justify this price with virtually no track record.
I'd like to point the finger at Apple for this one. They've effectively set the bar for price point with the iPad and now all other manufacturers are following suit.
What these other companies (Moto, Samsung, etc.) need to understand is that Apple charges as much as they do because they can, people will pay for the image.
Android tablets, in my mind, should be priced significantly lower in order to move units and undercut Apple. Why would they ever charge more, or even the same, when Apple already has such a strangle hold on the market? I can almost guarantee that these Android tablets will be dead on arrival (as far as general public/mass market appeal) if they charge iPad prices or above. With the iPad 2 just around the corner these Android tablets really need all the help they can get, especially if they want to win over Apple customers. Even if Android has more functionality than iOS general consumers will still see the iPad as being the best option, and the result will be Android being eclipsed by the iPad 2 launch (at least for initial release).
I'm all for the potential of tablet computing but as someone stated before, and this is bang on in my mind, laptop prices with 1/3 of the functionality. So why would I pay that and why do I need one?
I really hope Moto can win me over with functionality and pricing because the closer we get to a release date the less I think I want one of these tablets.
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I'd like to point the finger at Apple for this one. They've effectively set the bar for price point with the iPad and now all other manufacturers are following suit.
What these other companies (Moto, Samsung, etc.) need to understand is that Apple charges as much as they do because they can, people will pay for the image.
Android tablets, in my mind, should be priced significantly lower in order to move units and undercut Apple. Why would they ever charge more, or even the same, when Apple already has such a strangle hold on the market? I can almost guarantee that these Android tablets will be dead on arrival (as far as general public/mass market appeal) if they charge iPad prices or above. With the iPad 2 just around the corner these Android tablets really need all the help they can get, especially if they want to win over Apple customers. Even if Android has more functionality than iOS general consumers will still see the iPad as being the best option, and the result will be Android being eclipsed by the iPad 2 launch (at least for initial release).
I'm all for the potential of tablet computing but as someone stated before, and this is bang on in my mind, laptop prices with 1/3 of the functionality. So why would I pay that and why do I need one?
I really hope Moto can win me over with functionality and pricing because the closer we get to a release date the less I think I want one of these tablets.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Up until now I was 100% sure I wanted a XOOM. It's the standard that Google is using to base Honeycomb on, all of their developers have one. It's the flagship tablet for Honeycomb and they're killing it by trying to match Apple's price on the iPad. Very big mistake, and I have serious doubts on how well this thing is going to sale. Compare it to the Asus EEEPad Transformer who's prices are much lower and if Engadget is right, it even comes with the keyboard dock. I just don't understand.
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WTF is Moto thinking here?
These price leaks have FAIL written all over them. No eff'in way will you see me shell out more than $500 for a glorified internet browser/PSP. Make a port of a useful program like Eclipse and a way to write and run code... and we'll talk.
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Totally agree. If they price it at laptop level, it has to be able to REPLACE the laptop, so yeah, Eclipse would be cool for us devs (with a bluetooth keyboard, obviously). Although for the average user, most usual apps are available (most people have a computer for internet browsing and the Office apps).
As for the Xoom price vs iPad, in my mind it absolutely HAS to be lower than the pad. Significantly. No one in the real world is going "oh, I wish I could buy this Android Xoom tablet, but it's too expensive, I'll just go with the iPad instead...". It's the other way around, which is why it has to be significantly cheaper to steal some tablets customers. Many of my friends don't even know what's Android!
Sadly like many of you its not looking good for me getting one of these. Looks like I'll be waiting on an iPad 2. Moto really looks like they'll be screwing the pooch on this one.
You guys are mostly wrong, did you even look at ipad prices? This thing is priced competitively and is ****ting on the ipad in terms of specs, so you expect something with massive spec bump to be cheaper, I'm confused. And high end laptops don't cost anywhere around $700. You're comparing a cheap laptop to the highest spec tablet out there, nor do I believe you guys are looking at the full potential of tabs, by the end of the year your tab will be like another screen in your home with Comcast for 1 example, $700 and I'm getting one on day 1. To the Guy who said this should cost less then the ipad, that's a ****ing joke right?
Actually I don't know why I'm wasting my time, I'm in a room with a bunch of people under 10 posts lol
I thought more about this last night and this morning. I had all sorts of justifcations in mind for why I would need (want ) the Xoom and I was willing to hold out for it. But the price is rediculous and simply NOT justifiable for some.
This price has really turned me off. I'm seriously thinking about just getting a Nook Color, rooting it, and calling that good. Honeycomb was my hope, Gingerbread will be fine for $250 thannkyouverymuch.
Although I may wait about February 15th so I can utilize the 14 day return policy just in case.....the Xoom price drops
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I thought more about this last night and this morning. I had all sorts of justifcations in mind for why I would need (want ) the Xoom and I was willing to hold out for it. But the price is rediculous and simply NOT justifiable for some.
This price has really turned me off. I'm seriously thinking about just getting a Nook Color, rooting it, and calling that good. Honeycomb was my hope, Gingerbread will be fine for $250 thannkyouverymuch.
Although I may wait about February 15th so I can utilize the 14 day return policy just in case.....the Xoom price drops
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30 days here in Cali
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You guys are mostly wrong, did you even look at ipad prices? This thing is priced competitively and is ****ting on the ipad in terms of specs, so you expect something with massive spec bump to be cheaper, I'm confused. And high end laptops don't cost anywhere around $700. You're comparing a cheap laptop to the highest spec tablet out there, nor do I believe you guys are looking at the full potential of tabs, by the end of the year your tab will be like another screen in your home with Comcast for 1 example, $700 and I'm getting one on day 1. To the Guy who said this should cost less then the ipad, that's a ****ing joke right?
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As I said, most people don't know what's Android, everybody knows what's an iPhone/iPad. They want that thing with the Apple, so yeah, it has to be cheaper than the iPad (well, than the iPad 2, obviously, the iPad 1 will drop in price when the new one comes out). I know the specs of the Xoom are crazy (but please don't compare that to a high end laptop) but just look at the reactions out there, no one's excited about the current price leaks.
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As I said, most people don't know what's Android, everybody knows what's an iPhone/iPad. They want that thing with the Apple, so yeah, it has to be cheaper than the iPad (well, than the iPad 2, obviously, the iPad 1 will drop in price when the new one comes out). I know the specs of the Xoom are crazy (but please don't compare that to a high end laptop) but just look at the reactions out there, no one's excited about the current price leaks.
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But everybody is excited about the product, and I don't know where you live but EVERYONE in California knows about android and iPhone
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But everybody is excited about the product, and I don't know where you live but EVERYONE in California knows about android and iPhone
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I'm excited about the product too! Who wouldn't be, this is the best tablet so far. I understand that you'll buy it no matter the price, I won't unless it's cheaper, like many others. Not much to add... As for where I live, hint: look at the flag... Yep, some people in the great North don't know about Android. Crazy, eh?
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You guys are mostly wrong, did you even look at ipad prices? This thing is priced competitively and is ****ting on the ipad in terms of specs, so you expect something with massive spec bump to be cheaper, I'm confused. And high end laptops don't cost anywhere around $700. You're comparing a cheap laptop to the highest spec tablet out there, nor do I believe you guys are looking at the full potential of tabs, by the end of the year your tab will be like another screen in your home with Comcast for 1 example, $700 and I'm getting one on day 1. To the Guy who said this should cost less then the ipad, that's a ****ing joke right?
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It is very possible to buy an extremely capable laptop now-a-days for between $500-$800. Yes the XOOM is impressive spec wise (for tablets) at the moment but a month after its release the iPad 2 will be here and suddenly Moto's offering won't exactly be "****ting" on anything anymore.
Also, I just want to be clear that I'm not saying the iPad is better than the XOOM or any other Android offering, I'm just trying to look at this from a general consumer's point of view.
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Actually I don't know why I'm wasting my time, I'm in a room with a bunch of people under 10 posts lol
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This was completely unnecessary, no one is attacking you personally here. Also, a quick look through this thread would prove you wrong. Not to mention that most of the posts here bring up good points and are well written. We may have less posts than you but that doesn't mean much if you pride yourself on posting 'quality' comments such as this.
Who are we kidding? We're all buying this tablet. lol
I just hope we get it here in Canada for $700 and not some bull**** price of $749.99+ or whatever. Our dollar is par now.
I'd sure like the WiFi only version, since by then I'll have the Atrix (coming to Bell), no need for 2 3G devices.
Lets start this off right.
If you post on this forum, then your an Android fanboy. It's just like that.
That being said, you get defensive and want to defend your product, I know I do.
But here lies the issue. The Xoom is over priced. Period.
Fact - There are Tegra 2 tabs out there on the market. Heck, one of them is even a 10.1 incher! - http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/242175
What's that? Its priced at 399.00 normal and 369.00 on sale? But this is brand new technology and top notch stuff!
Yes, the G - Tablet IS out and running a Tegra 2 processor, as are a few others.
My point is this. This tablet has nearly everything the Xoom has. Add a front a rear camera and a slightly nicer screen, and 512MB RAM (all relatively cheap for manufacturers) and this price doesn't double.
So please, someone explain how an android tablet priced at 400 can literally double in price based on 2 minor upgrades and FREE software ( Android 3.0)
I will absolutely agree that it is overpriced. However the tablet you linked is a piece of garbage, worse screen, no 3g, and no cameras.
All that stuff isn't worth 400 dollars no doubt, but it should be higher priced than the viewsonic. I'd pay 600 for the xoom easy.
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I will absolutely agree that it is overpriced. However the tablet you linked is a piece of garbage, worse screen, no 3g, and no cameras.
All that stuff isn't worth 400 dollars no doubt, but it should be higher priced than the viewsonic. I'd pay 600 for the xoom easy.
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I think that for the Xoom in its current incarnation, $650 would be the sweet spot in my mind; knock off a hundy for the "rumored" WiFi only model and I'm sold. $800 with required VZW activation and 1 month data is far too high. It still surprises me that they think this is how they're going to sell the most. I would think that they'd want to get as many out there as they can, like Apple did. I know people don't like to make the comparison to 1 year old hardware, but we have to remember that when the ipad first came out it was cutting edge tech and they still managed lower prices than this. When Apple is price competitive you know your costs are too high. Also, once they throw down on ipad 2 or whatever you have to believe they're going to keep the same pricing scheme, they definitely tend to maintain the same price structure.
youareme7 said:
I think that for the Xoom in its current incarnation, $650 would be the sweet spot in my mind; knock off a hundy for the "rumored" WiFi only model and I'm sold. $800 with required VZW activation and 1 month data is far too high. It still surprises me that they think this is how they're going to sell the most. I would think that they'd want to get as many out there as they can, like Apple did. I know people don't like to make the comparison to 1 year old hardware, but we have to remember that when the ipad first came out it was cutting edge tech and they still managed lower prices than this. When Apple is price competitive you know your costs are too high.
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Bang on. Agree with you completely. I'd buy in line for 650, for 800 and they've lost me. I'll buy an iPad 2 to replace my iPad.
To all above , I agree the sweet spot for this would be ~650. I was ready to put down when a pre order came out. I'm just disappointed.
And yes, I know the G - Tablet has an inferior screen. I just used it as a point of reference to a price point done right for the market. Tack and extra 100 - 150 to make up for inferiorities to a WiFi only Xoom and there is the entry price for a successful tablet.
$400 is about my limit for this type of device. You can get an HP slate 500 for about the same price as the Xoom and it's got a Ton more capability and it's still a first gen device.
excitment is over inflating the real value of these devices, everyone be patient don't purchase and they'll come down and start being more opened up.
Oh I agree, $800 is too much for this tablet. The hardware and software don't justify the cost.
That said, it doesn't change the fact that I'm still likely to get one. It's at the top end of my limit, but I'll still be there on the 14th or 17th or 24th, whenever the hell it comes out.
Why? Because I'm an early adopter. I buy crap like this the day it comes out, and I pay a premium for it. I had an iPad on day one, and honestly, I don't like crapple products. If it wasn't for my wife watching netflix on it I would have post it on ebay or craigslist a long time ago.
And yes, the G tablet is comparable in hardware for a much lower price (even though it is a piece of junk).
The xoom has a key feature though, Honeycomb. I'm sure they worked a lot with Google to get Honeycomb working smoothly, so to say it was free isn't quite accurate, no doubt cheap, but not free. It still costs them money to implement and update (assuming Motorola won't pull a Cliq and will update it.)
Motorola is banking on the fact that Honeycomb will sell this for them, and it will.
I've got 30 days to return it right? I may do so, I may not, we'll see.
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$400 is about my limit for this type of device. You can get an HP slate 500 for about the same price as the Xoom and it's got a Ton more capability and it's still a first gen device.
excitment is over inflating the real value of these devices, everyone be patient don't purchase and they'll come down and start being more opened up.
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Not trying to get into an argument here, but...
Have you ever actually used the 500? Sure, by running Windows it's got 'a ton more capability', in theory. In practice, it's a pain to use because it's severely underpowered. We evaluated that device and easily concluded it was not fit for two main reasons: first, it's too sluggish, and second, Windows is not designed for a touch interface. It just doesn't work.
Whatever your feelings are on price with the Xoom, comparing it's usability to the HP Slate is a fail. The proof is in the pudding: the slate has sold poorly, even in the corporate environment.
Also another thing to add to the long list, new mobile chip sets are coming next year. Some tablets we could see next year could feature up to 8 gigabytes of ram. You may say LOLWUT, but it's damn true. So why would I as a consumer pay 700-800 bucks for an entry level tablet? I am considering buying a Nook Color and waiting for a proper gingerbread port or buy the new Huawei tablet, or even the next cheap tegra 2 tablet from Velocity Micro which will probably be $250-300.
ComeShot said:
Also another thing to add to the long list, new mobile chip sets are coming next year. Some tablets we could see next year could feature up to 8 gigabytes of ram. You may say LOLWUT, but it's damn true. So why would I as a consumer pay 700-800 bucks for an entry level tablet? I am considering buying a Nook Color and waiting for a proper gingerbread port or buy the new Huawei tablet, or even the next cheap tegra 2 tablet from Velocity Micro which will probably be $250-300.
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if you wait for the newest tech, you'll never actually purchase anything.
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if you wait for the newest tech, you'll never actually purchase anything.
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Not really the case for me, It's just that 4gb-8gb of RAM is a big difference of tablet performance from 500 mb/1gb of ram... especially for 700-800 dollars.
Thats why I'm probably going to be purchasing the Nook Color which is literally half the power of the Xoom.
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Not really the case for me, It's just that 4gb-8gb of RAM is a big difference of tablet performance from 500 mb/1gb of ram... especially for 700-800 dollars.
Thats why I'm probably going to be purchasing the Nook Color which is literally half the power of the Xoom.
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Yeah, you can't really comparer the NC to the Xoom, they're totally different. One is a hacked up device to become a tablet, the other sets the stage for the latest in tablet hardware and software. Not that your making an exact comparison, but they're just so different you can't argue them on the same field.
I had the NC, I took it back. Just too slow even on basic web pages and stock android.
I wonder how long it's going to be before your account is closed for a name change, no matter how you spell it, it's still offensive.
I wonder if Moto has folks looking thru the rants on the net about their potential pricing. 800 + verizon + tax = DOA as most ppl put it... Of course some early adoptors will buy, but Moto will have to do a rethink after the first wave of sales (if there is a wave and not a ripple)...
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I wonder if Moto has folks looking thru the rants on the net about their potential pricing. 800 + verizon + tax = DOA as most ppl put it... Of course some early adoptors will buy, but Moto will have to do a rethink after the first wave of sales (if there is a wave and not a ripple)...
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Yah, I wanted the Xoom so bad my self . I have a sealed Samsung Galaxy Tab which I was going to sell and get the Moto Xoom but, if the Xoom is really over $700.00 which is my budget then, I will just open my Samsung Tab and Root it and enjoy it!! Im sure there are a few good cheaper Tablets on the way so , will just wait a few months and see what is on the way
I've been hearing rumors that tablets in 6 months to a year will make this tablet obsolete. Apparently tablets will be coming out soon with almost twice the processing speed as this currently has, is that true? I have to make a decision on a tablet to buy that will last me at least 2 years before I can buy another one, do you all think that this will last that long? Should I wait another 6 months and buy a better tablet when they start rolling out? I know the developers will keep this going, but like with my HTC Hero, as soon as the next big thing came out, everybody left that device in the dust.
It's a common joke in the tech world to say that by the time you buy your device it's obsolete.
Sadly, it's true. Qualcomm already announced some beastly processors at CES this year, but said they won't show up in devices until 2012. So that's already going to make your device obsolete within a year or so.
I'd say find a device you like now, and buy it. After you buy it be sure to look the other way as other devices get announced.
Also, don't buy into Best Buy's Buyback program, it's a ripoff. You have to sell back within 6 months, and can only get at most 50% of your purchase price back.
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I've been hearing rumors that tablets in 6 months to a year will make this tablet obsolete. Apparently tablets will be coming out soon with almost twice the processing speed as this currently has, is that true? I have to make a decision on a tablet to buy that will last me at least 2 years before I can buy another one, do you all think that this will last that long? Should I wait another 6 months and buy a better tablet when they start rolling out? I know the developers will keep this going, but like with my HTC Hero, as soon as the next big thing came out, everybody left that device in the dust.
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Are you ****ting on me? No really I think it smells funny in here. Of course it will be
Computers and similar products like tablets and smartphones follow the same rule. The motorola Xooms performance will be outshadowed in a year, just like the Evo's performance is already outshadowed by the latest phones coming out.
To expect a technology product of this type to be relevant a year later is not gonna happen lol.
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I've been hearing rumors that tablets in 6 months to a year will make this tablet obsolete. Apparently tablets will be coming out soon with almost twice the processing speed as this currently has, is that true? I have to make a decision on a tablet to buy that will last me at least 2 years before I can buy another one, do you all think that this will last that long? Should I wait another 6 months and buy a better tablet when they start rolling out? I know the developers will keep this going, but like with my HTC Hero, as soon as the next big thing came out, everybody left that device in the dust.
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The quadcores will be coming out (and the IPAD 3 is rumored to come out) at the beginning of next year.
The end of this year, that quadcores will be SAMPLING - meaning prototype devices will be shown, with release schedules in the beginning of the next year around this time.
With any sort of device, you are looking at a 6 month doubling time in technology. Recently that has been speeding up.
To be fair, the google nexus one (also a flagship) still gets regular updates first - the Moto xoom should be similar.
After one year, quadcores will come out - but your tegra 2 will still be usable.
its obsolete already....save ur money...don't buy anything...
Depending on what you mean by obsolete.
As with Android phones, there are severe competition within the Android platform. All big manufacturers refresh their flagship models every few months to take advantage of newer faster better components. If you want to always have to top of the line, the highest-spec Honeycomb tablet, the Xoom may not last for long. It's already been said that the Samsung one may have a better screen and the LG one does 3D... and how knows how many more Honeycomb tablets will be announced at CTIA by the end of this month.
But if you are considering getting a high-end tablet to won't be obsolete in the sense of not getting updates, or the hardware can't keep up with the softwares. You don't really have to worry, for at least a year or more. Your experience with it will only get better as Honeycomb platform gets more mature, for the next year at least.
This is always the case with Android. The faster, nicer looking, longer lasting device with the latest firmware and the newer manufacturer technology is always right around the corner.
Ultimately this is why I chose not to subsidize with a 24 month ($480 dollar + tax) contract.
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Ultimately this is why I chose not to subsidize with a 24 month ($480 dollar + tax) contract.
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You'd have to be stupid to lock a tablet to a 2yr contract lol. How many people do u know that bought subsidized netbooks? Lol
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I would like to introduce you to Moore's Law.
Moore's law describes a long-term trend in the history of computing hardware. The quantity of transistors that can be placed inexpensively on an integrated circuit has doubled approximately every two years. The trend has continued for more than half a century and is not expected to stop until 2015 or 2020 or later.
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Depending on what you mean by obsolete.
As with Android phones, there are severe competition within the Android platform. All big manufacturers refresh their flagship models every few months to take advantage of newer faster better components. If you want to always have to top of the line, the highest-spec Honeycomb tablet, the Xoom may not last for long. It's already been said that the Samsung one may have a better screen and the LG one does 3D... and how knows how many more Honeycomb tablets will be announced at CTIA by the end of this month.
But if you are considering getting a high-end tablet to won't be obsolete in the sense of not getting updates, or the hardware can't keep up with the softwares. You don't really have to worry, for at least a year or more. Your experience with it will only get better as Honeycomb platform gets more mature, for the next year at least.
This is always the case with Android. The faster, nicer looking, longer lasting device with the latest firmware and the newer manufacturer technology is always right around the corner.
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What he said.
Obsolete is such a funny word. People interchange it with top of the line. There will be some games that come out in a year that won't look as good on the Xoom. They'll probably be/are tablets that are better able to decode video. But the Xoom won't tell stories of processing 4 times harder in the snow for a while.
Disregard.
Well, it wont be complete obsolete but NVIDIA already announced that their new quad core processors will be out on tablets by August of 2011. So, thats twice the performance the xoom has now. I'm expecting a Xoom 2 of some kind. I would wait honestly. thats what imma do.
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You'd have to be stupid to lock a tablet to a 2yr contract lol. How many people do u know that bought subsidized netbooks? Lol
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Contract is for a data plan. You can always buy another off contract (full price) and switch them out.
This is something thats frustrating me aswell. £500 is alot of money these days, especially with cost of living increasing, the price of rice etc.
So you kinda want to get a good few years use out of it. And not have to worry about upgrading within 12 months.
And likewise expect adequate support and updates as quickly as possible without feeling abandoned.
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It won't be obsolete but it won't be top of the line anymore. Really, you should buy what makes you happy now, skip the next generation of tablets, and then refresh with whatever 3rd gen comes out in a year or so.
You'd be broke if you tried to keep up with the latest technology. Unless you have that much disposable income...
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Well, it wont be complete obsolete but NVIDIA already announced that their new quad core processors will be out on tablets by August of 2011. So, thats twice the performance the xoom has now. I'm expecting a Xoom 2 of some kind. I would wait honestly. thats what imma do.
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Yeah but if you have that attitude you'll be waiting forever. When the iPad came out I wanted to wait because although it's a great product, I don't like Apple's ethos. When the cheap aPad type tablets came out I wanted to wait because they're a bit dodgy build wise. When the Galaxy Tab came out I wanted to wait because I'm not a fan of the 7 inch form factor. Now the Xoom is out and I'm supposed to wait again, for another what 5/6 months because there MAY be a quad core tab out before the end of the year? No. The Xoom has everything I was waiting for, a proper tablet OS, open ethos (I was dreading an unlockable bootloader), good build quality and 10 inch form factor. It's what I've been waiting for. I'll be damned if I'm going to wait again just for a performance boost that I'm not even sure it needs right now.
Anyway, when the quad cores are out there will be another reason to wait. I can imagine it now. "Oh you're going to buy that quad tab are you? Why don't you wait until Icecream is out next Jan, then you'll be able to have glasses free 3D." Or some such other benefit for waiting. Nah, I'm done waiting, I'm jumping on the tablet train now.
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Yeah but if you have that attitude you'll be waiting forever. When the iPad came out I wanted to wait because although it's a great product, I don't like Apple's ethos. When the cheap aPad type tablets came out I wanted to wait because they're a bit dodgy build wise. When the Galaxy Tab came out I wanted to wait because I'm not a fan of the 7 inch form factor. Now the Xoom is out and I'm supposed to wait again, for another what 5/6 months because there MAY be a quad core tab out before the end of the year? No. The Xoom has everything I was waiting for, a proper tablet OS, open ethos (I was dreading an unlockable bootloader), good build quality and 10 inch form factor. It's what I've been waiting for. I'll be damned if I'm going to wait again just for a performance boost that I'm not even sure it needs right now.
Anyway, when the quad cores are out there will be another reason to wait. I can imagine it now. "Oh you're going to buy that quad tab are you? Why don't you wait until Icecream is out next Jan, then you'll be able to have glasses free 3D." Or some such other benefit for waiting. Nah, I'm done waiting, I'm jumping on the tablet train now.
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Completely agree with you. There is finally a quality tablet out there and thats why I picked it up. I'm sure this is plenty fast enough, and you'll always be waiting for something better.
Just pick a comfortable one and stop evaluating new ones, but treat them as candidate for 2 years later.
That's why having a 2-year contract helps sometimes. It help to set the mentality right.
Sometimes it sounds like, to be married or to be single and availe for better girlfriend/boyfriend ,
which one is better?
Just in this case, the contract is just 2-year. The inappropriate analogy is life-time (or at least hopefully for many's cases)
I think the reason the xoom will not become obsolete as quickly as other tablets do is due to the software, not the hardware. I owned an htc hero and saw the nexus 1 get multitudes of update and my poor hero get only 2. The xoom is much like the nexus 1. Even though the hardware will not be the latest and the greatest, your software will always be up to date. Something you may not see with the LG device (due to 3D) or the Samsung device (due to Samsung being Samsung).
Just something to consider.
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So here is my situation.
I was one of the early adopters and went out of contract and got a Motorola Xoom 3G for $800. After being promised for a while to be upgraded to 4G and looking for Motorola to take care of its customers, Motorola did nothing and by the time the Xoom got 4G, the Xoom 2 was already in the making and the value dropped. I was able to get $400 for it thank GD this past holiday season.
Now I was going to go after the Transformer Prime when it became available but then I started thinking it doesn't have 3G or 4G for that matter but the price is right and it is the only quad core tablet at the moment. But when I did go with carpool twice a week for about an hour each way, it would mean no connectivity unless I tether my 3G Droid Incredible 2 which would mean I could not make or receive phone calls and the speed would be anything less than stellar. Not to mention that if I were to receive a call while downloading something from the Market I would lose it mid download because you can't tether and be on the phone also. I also am worried about resell value. Yes it is better than the iPad but an Android Tablet loses its value fast vs the iPad only because it isn't recognized worldwide as superior. Think of the Evo vs iPhone YouTube video made by that Best Buy employee.
I was actually thinking about buying the iPad, yes really. But then thinking I would have to buy all my apps again even if I'm protected on the resale value. I also thought about getting a Samsung Galaxy 4G.
Now I think I'm going to stick with waiting for CES and MW in Feb before making a final choice.
I was just wondering what your thoughts are on this and maybe any help you can offer - thanks
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Just my opinion but no electronic product is perfect and there will always be something newer and better coming. Sometimes you just have to make a decision and go with it. I had the Xoom, returned it to Costco after just under 3months, purchased the GTab 10.1 on Amazon and haven't looked back.
You are right about ipad havinga better resale value (i bought a 2nd hand ipad for my gf a year ago and 3 month ago sood itfor the same price as when i bought it!) and thats perhaps the only thing better about apple products over android devices. So if you really care about resale price go for ipad.
As for as your dilemma on going for wifi vs 3g,4g version, it seems it woulb be lots of inconvenience for you if you go for the former! So my suggestion is wait for a 3g version to come out.
And one last thing, I wouldnt grt too excited about transformer prime, being the first quad core device is as exciting (since its new n all) as it could be its downfall (again since its new n all!!). Ill rather wait for other quad cores to come out say from samsung.
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