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Hey guys I recently bought an atrix off craigslist. It's the bell version and is running GreyBlur and is rooted. How do I tell if the bootloader is unlocked or not? I tried flashing clockwork mod through adb and it kept saying failed to flash, so I became suspicious that the bootloader is locked, ( I previously though that since im running a ROM, the bootloader must be unlocked) Correct me if im wrong, thanks
Vik_92_Sandhu said:
Hey guys I recently bought an atrix off craigslist. It's the bell version and is running GreyBlur and is rooted. How do I tell if the bootloader is unlocked or not? I tried flashing clockwork mod through adb and it kept saying failed to flash, so I became suspicious that the bootloader is locked, ( I previously though that since im running a ROM, the bootloader must be unlocked) Correct me if im wrong, thanks
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Only has to be rooted, not unlocked to run a P-ROM which is what you have with GreyBlur. It's not an actual ROM.
oh I see, so most likely the bootloader is locked because it fails when trying to flash clock work mod. Is it safe to unlock the bootloader when running a P-Rom ? I was reading the forums about people bricking their devices by ota updates and SBF files, or do those things only happen once your bootloader is unlocked? Thanks
You got everything mixed up...
Vik_92_Sandhu said:
oh I see, so most likely the bootloader is locked because it fails when trying to flash clock work mod.
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If bootloader is unlocked you should see "Unlocked" at the upper left corner at boot screen (the first one, with dual core logo).
You couldn't flash clockwordmod because it's not officially supported, you should use the ones provided at the dev forum (either for the locked or the unlocked bootloader)
Is it safe to unlock the bootloader when running a P-Rom ? I was reading the forums about people bricking their devices by ota updates and SBF files, or do those things only happen once your bootloader is unlocked? Thanks
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P-ROMs has nothing to do with unlocking. P-ROM is just a heavily modified version of an official motoblur ROM.
About the bricking... well, there is always a chance of bricking if you don't know what you are doing and don't read instructions carefully till you understand everything. But if you follow everything as stated, most likely you won't brick.
Cheers
U should get on google+ we chat this up often
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I wish I had google plus, never got an invite, thanks for the info man , its very much appreciated, I used to have the captivate and thought it would be the same, but I was wrong. Those clarifications really help, thanks.
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edit: wait is tenfars CWM not supported?
frankiedizzle87 said:
U should get on google+ we chat this up often
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What's your name on it?
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ok guys
1) I unlocked my bootloader
2) Flashed Clockwork Mod
3) Placed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169409 on my sd card
4) tried to install zip using clockwork but it kept saying installation aborted
After that didnt work I tried using adb and moto-fastboot to flash the rom, it worked but now my phone is in boot loop. I tried deleting user data and tried reflashing the rom but still in bootloop. What is the next step I should do, I know i'm one wrong step away from a brick so I really want to be carefull.
Should I try flashing a different rom using moto fastboot? thanks
Hi all. Im from the uk and have got the ATRIX on orange. I've rooted it using gingrebreak and all is good. I was just looking through rom manager and found that clockwork now has support for it. I want to install it but just need to know if it will work on my uk ATRIX, and if there's anything else I need to do like unlocking the bootloader? I've rooted and installed custom roms on my htc desire, which now runs f1 gingerbread and works great, so im not a complete noob lol. Just need a few pointers. Any help would be greeeeat. Cheers
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You'll need to have an unlocked bootloader to install this CWM build.
Ahh I see lol. Do u know if the uk orange bootloader can be unlocked yet? Thanks for replying
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gaddsta said:
Ahh I see lol. Do u know if the uk orange bootloader can be unlocked yet? Thanks for replying
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Yes it can! You'll have to start in the Atrix Development section, and go to the sticky that starts with [PUDDING]. That's where you'll find your unlock. There are a couple of guides floating around, so make sure you follow those completely!
I shall take a look and ill keep u posted. Thanks a lot
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Did this yesterday on my Telstra Atrix, bricked my phone, had to reinstall OLYEM_U4_1.4.2 and everything else from scratch, got boot error after install of CWM
Bricked? Maybe ill look some more before I commit to it. Might just wait a little longer for update then who knows. Hope ur ATRIX is well again
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gaddsta said:
Bricked? Maybe ill look some more before I commit to it. Might just wait a little longer for update then who knows. Hope ur ATRIX is well again
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He didn't hard brick, which is unrecoverable. He simply soft-bricked. He might not have unlocked his bootloader properly, or messed with something.
A hard brick can only happen if you flash an OTA update with an updated bootloader, and try to flash an older SBF file. That, in turn, would require use of NVFlash to unbrick, but NVFlash requires you to have your SBK, which seems impossible to get.
He soft bricked. That means that he just can't boot into the OS, and is easily fixed by restoring via Nandroid, or using an SBF file with RSDLite.
I have an international phone (Bell) and you need to flash the bootloader sbf. the international one is called IHOP then you can continue on to flash CWM, not sure if youve already done this but if you need help let me know.
I have an unlocked and rooted Atrix 4G running on 4.1.83, and I know once I do the 4.5 update I will loose the ability of RSD Lite to flash back to previous sbf's. I have put off this update due to the fact of possibly limiting my options with the phone. I havn't had enough time to really look into different roms or even start studying up on developing something (which I want to in the future; just busy with job interviews and a big move coming up). But to get to the point, is it worth it for me just to do the update or not? I am curious of everyones thoughts on this....
Thanks
Personally, I think it's not worth updating since we will soon have CM7. It's all up to you though. I enjoy my freedom when customizing my phone. Do you?
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you can use fruitcakes to flash 1.83 if froyo is your thing.
Personally even the buggy CM7 build is miles ahead of the assorted 2.3.4 Roms if you don't need a camera or wifi tether. I will never run 2.2 again
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moto's own bootloader unlock
Isn't moto going to unlock the boot loader anyway? Wouldn't that mean it would be possible to continue the stock ROM updates and then choose to unlock after the next update from moto and have the ability to flash arbitrary ROMs as current unlocked owners can? Perhaps I'm missing something between the curren unofficial unlock and moto's future unlock.
i ran the update and have lost my tethering hack... looking for a fix now.
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Isn't moto going to unlock the boot loader anyway? Wouldn't that mean it would be possible to continue the stock ROM updates and then choose to unlock after the next update from moto and have the ability to flash arbitrary ROMs as current unlocked owners can? Perhaps I'm missing something between the curren unofficial unlock and moto's future unlock.
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They did unlock the BT but locked it again...
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No offense but the mods probably want this in Q&A. That being said, CWM Recovery is the safest route post 2.3.4 update. That is actually the preferred method anyway. All of the Atrix firmwares are available as CWM flashable zips in samcripp's fruitcakes thread. You don't really lose anything but the ability to use RSD which is least preferable anyway.
I unlocked my bootloader at one time. I then and to revert to stock GB. Now when I boot up i no longer have the "unlocked" show up on the screen. I somehow, lost my recovery so I am trying to load the CWM variant and I'm running into issues.
I just want to clarify that since I unlocked it at one point, it is and will always be unlocked, correct? I thought I had read that you can not revert to a locked state.
Thanks,
clipse
It is unlocked, but you will need to flash an unlocked ROM or reunlock it to avoid the problems you are having. I had the same thing happen to me before. Even though it is unlocked, the phone doesn't recognize it because of the ROM.
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Thank you. I am trying to reunlock it but I keep getting "oem unlock is not implemented". Can't flash an unlocked rom because I don't have recovery and thats the only way I have done it in the past.
clipse
Did you flash the stock 4.5.91 sbf or what?
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Always unlocked. I have no idea on your issue though. Even though it doesnt say unlocked your fuse is still blown.
I voided my warranty.
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Did you flash the stock 4.5.91 sbf or what?
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Yes I did.
I ended up finding the unlocker sbf files from the pudding thread. Flashed that and its all good. I am rocking alien for now.
clipse94 said:
Yes I did.
I ended up finding the unlocker sbf files from the pudding thread. Flashed that and its all good. I am rocking alien for now.
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So you missed the warnings all over the place that say to NEVER flash SBFs once you've unlocked? Nice.
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So you missed the warnings all over the place that say to NEVER flash SBFs once you've unlocked? Nice.
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Lmao. Well, hopefully he flashed pudding like he implied and hes good.
I voided my warranty.
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So you missed the warnings all over the place that say to NEVER flash SBFs once you've unlocked? Nice.
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Always nice to see an ass.
I seen the warnings that say don't revert to froyo after unlocking. No warning about going back to stock GB. Read up more before you post.
clipse94 said:
Always nice to see an ass.
I seen the warnings that say don't revert to froyo after unlocking. No warning about going back to stock GB. Read up more before you post.
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I wasn't referring to any thread in particular but there are several threads that suggest the use of SBFs should be stopped as they are often unpredictable.
You wouldn't know anything about that though because you didn't need to come in the forum to ask for help after you SBF'd your phone and it went bad, hm? Thought not.
Next time read the warnings. The disappearance of "UNLOCKED" is well documented.
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clipse94 said:
Always nice to see an ass.
I seen the warnings that say don't revert to froyo after unlocking. No warning about going back to stock GB. Read up more before you post.
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He wasnt the nicest about it, but dont use sbf anymore. You are risking HARD bricking your phone. Its always best to fastboot any kind of flash, especially radios, but you should be fine using a recovery to flash any compatible rom. Dont come asking what how do i unbrick my phone if you keep using sbf files.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Ok. So I should explain, I had to go the sbf route last time because I was having severe issues with the phone app fcing. I tried every possible other option and looked into any other way. Going the stock gb sbf was my last resort. That was several weeks ago. I just now decided to try another rom which is where I was having issues. So, unless you know the whole story........... I think proper etiquette is if you don't have anything constructive to say the stfu.
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Welcome to XDA dude, everything you say can and will be used against you. Doesn't matter what you do or how you word responses, someone will use it as an opportunity to flame you so they can feel superior. Sux that people have to act this way.
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Here's the deal-E-O. Once you unlock and yer OTA updated to gingerbread, the only safe *and I say that with respect to the fact that it could still lead to something bad * .sbf to flash is the stock Gingerbread 2.3.4 . It may not be safe for EVERYONE, maybe it's a case by case basis, but I know for me I can flash that and it reverts me to stock with no unlock appearing at startup anymore. Also, the 1.97 radio .sbf seems fine to flash , atleast on my phone. Again, I'm not saying you SHOULD. Just adding information. Good luck all.
Can we please stop the flame wars?
This is part of the reason why some devs are leaving.
Remember XDA is about community and helping others...
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So if i was running blue cronic and having FC issues and wanted to revert back to stock as possible and used this "1FF-olympus-user-2.3.4-4.5.91-110625-release-keys-signed-ATT-US-GAS_NA_OLPSGBATTSPE_P011.sbf" through RSD lite. Have I screwed myself up? My phone is working just fine right now it just no longer says unlocked at boot up and I obviously dont have root access any longer.
I was about to flash this "ATT-2.3.4_Pudding_preroot.sbf" through RSD lite but I came across this thread doing a "search" lol
This is what I originally used to unlock/root my phone. Should I just go back to it and let it do the magic again?
Automatic bootloader UNLOCK/ROOT for AT&T 1.26/1.57/1.83/4.5.91 [UPDATE 07/31/11
UPDATE:Used the automatic script and everything is the way I want it. Stock look and blur but unlocked and rooted. Working just fine with no FCs
clipse94 said:
Ok. So I should explain, I had to go the sbf route last time because I was having severe issues with the phone app fcing. I tried every possible other option and looked into any other way. Going the stock gb sbf was my last resort. That was several weeks ago. I just now decided to try another rom which is where I was having issues. So, unless you know the whole story........... I think proper etiquette is if you don't have anything constructive to say the stfu.
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No.
You did not have to go the "SBF route" after unlocking. Fastboot bud, always.
Hi I'm new to the custom rom's and instead of searching through countless topics, mixing up instructions. I was wondering if I could get some directions.
Play is unrooted 2.3.3. I would like instructions on how to put a custom rom on the phone, and which custom rom would be recommended. Thanks in advance people.
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is your phone fastboot enabled? (does the notification light in the power button turn blue if you hold the search button and then connect the usb to computer?)
If you want a custom rom but dont want to search and read these forums, i give your phone a week before you brick it.
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If you want a custom rom but dont want to search and read these forums, i give your phone a week before you brick it.
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or we could help people within the comunity to understand what's out there, the risks involved and how to get around the problems that could arise? we all need things explaining to us once in a while.
Oh im sorry i see your point, it is always good to be helpful, i am trying to be helpful as well when i say you should search and read, i mean look at all the countless threads where people didnt want to read, theres like 3 help im bricked threads per page.
lol. i know what you mean. and i know it can be frustrating. it's just a shame that the play is so much more complicated than the x10 that i was previously on. it was all flashtool and update.zip stuff. practically unbrickable!! loved it. fastboot and adb complicate things, and i feel that some of the tutorials can be a little confusing to total noobs. so we need to be accomodating to their lack of knowledge (i hardly know anything, so i'm still quite noobish), but also, people need to accept their own actions and consequences. not sure what i'm getting at now, but things need to be simpler for people who want to start out
Actually the way of installation is exactly the same for any custom ROM in this phone.
1) unlock your bootloader, either for free if you bought a factory unlocked phone or for some cash sending Alejandrissimo a PM, which you have to use if your phone is branded and/or Sim locked. You only need to do this step once.
2) install a custom kernel. There are two: DoomLord's kernel and the Cyanogen Mod kernel. The latter allows you only to install CM7. Doom's allows you to install the others.
3) Enter in Clockwork Mod recovery and install the ROM you prefer as long as your kernel of choice supports it.
As to which ROM you should pick, I use CM7 because it's stable and fast. Visit those threads and see for yourself which is the one you like best.
my personal favorite (until cm7 became more usable, and also because i like dooms kernel) was zerojay's aptly named zerorom. it's a very clean and fast sony based rom full of optimizations and tweaks. i'm currently trying out the FXP028 release of cm7 to see if it's more to my liking than it was in previous releases.
Unfortunately locked to Rogers. Is there a free way of unlocking the bootloader and how?
Again I'm currently running 2.3.3 nonrooted. Had it rooted on 2. 3. 2. but ofcourse lost it with update.
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8ballhacker said:
Unfortunately locked to Rogers. Is there a free way of unlocking the bootloader and how?
Again I'm currently running 2.3.3 nonrooted. Had it rooted on 2. 3. 2. but ofcourse lost it with update.
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No there isnt.
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If you want root get wantonserver and flash na generic 2.3.2 root it with gingerbreak and then ota update to 2.3.3+
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No there isnt.
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well, one free way could be if you could swap a branded phone to someone who doesnt care and has a generic model
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well, one free way could be if you could swap a branded phone to someone who doesnt care and has a generic model
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True, but paying $20 dollars to get it unlocked sounds like less of a pain in the ass
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Bump, has anyone been able to get Cyanogen mod onto the Rogers r800a? This locked boot loader is really causing me grief. Have the phone rooted, cwr is installed as well as busy Box. Getting closer, but still no cigar.
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Bump, has anyone been able to get Cyanogen mod onto the Rogers r800a? This locked boot loader is really causing me grief. Have the phone rooted, cwr is installed as well as busy Box. Getting closer, but still no cigar.
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You can flash CM7, but i doubt it will boot with stock kernel.
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AndroHero said:
You can flash CM7, but i doubt it will boot with stock kernel.
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Just to confirm, without the proper Kernel I am more than likely to brick my play? Many Thanks!
mcorbeil said:
Just to confirm, without the proper Kernel I am more than likely to brick my play? Many Thanks!
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You won't brick it, if kernel is incompatible device with either not boot, or bootloop, flahing stock rom with flashtool will fix it though.
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