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On my T-Mobile (USA) MDA, so far I've just used the standard stock ROM, the latest of them that came out.
As I'm having some problems now with my MDA (not sure if hardware or software), and would hope to keep it going until a good 3g smartphone is available on T-Mobile, I'm thinking of reflashing the ROM, reinstalling my software, etc.
So, if I'm going to have to reflash it anyhow, I might as well try one of the many cooked ROMs available on this web site.
There seem to be many of them on this site, with so many very long threads devoted to them.
I don't have time to read through all those threads, to try to determine which ROM would be best for me to try. So, if people could sum up in this thread, which are the best ROMs and why, it would make it easier for me and others.
I would want one that is very stable, used by many without problems. Having problems with the phone anyhow, I don't want to risk a ROM that will bring more problems.
Preferably WM6, even more preferably 6.1, but if those ROMs are not as stable on the MDA as the WM5 Roms, then I would go with the latter.
Anyhow, curious to hear people's feedback, regarding the best of the Wizard cooked ROMs.
me said:
I don't have time to read through all those threads, to try to determine which ROM would be best for me to try. So, if people could sum up in this thread, which are the best ROMs and why, it would make it easier for me and others.
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Um, don't you think someone would have done this by now?
What you are asking (and believe me when I tell you, you are not the first, or the last, to ask it) is a subjective question, with subjective answers, no two of which will be the same.
While the idea is a noble one, it's been asked for by just about every new person on these threads (I probably did it too, once).
The simple answer: read the list of software on five or six of the most recently published ROMs at the Wizard Mobile 6 list, and flash the one you like best. These days, almost all of them are G4 safe, so you probably don't have to worry about that, and as long as you keep a copy of your service provider's base ROM, a copy of the Hard SPL, Soft SPL, and maybe a copy of Wizard Love ROM, you'll do fine.
Better yet, just stay with WM5 if you want stable. Stability's not really one of the high points of home-cooked ROMs, in my opinion.
Maybe you don't even need to flash. If you're having a hardware problem, flashing could be a bad idea. If your hardware decides to glitch while you're in the middle of a flash, you won't be waiting to get a new phone, you'll be in the store before you're ready. Why don't you try starting a new thread with your symptoms, and see if we can't help you solve your problem, instead of trying to mask it with a new ROM?
I'm sure you are right that there is subjectivity involved, that different people have different opinions. So--give your opinions.
I didn't just ask "which is the *best* rom", which would have been a very subjective question, such as "what is the best car", or "what is the best food". I specifically described my case, that I'm not interested in experimenting with 20 different ROMs, but asking which ones could be considered stable and safe (not risky and experimental), while providing better functionality than my present one.
Yes, as I wrote, I am having problems with my MDA, which I think could very likely be hardware-based, and will not be fixed with re-flashing. The only way to know is to try though. The phone is a few years old, I am thinking of getting a new one soon, but waiting until T-Mobile has a 3g WM smartphone available, that I like.
Why would re-flashing be something to try? I figure just like if one is having software problems on a computer, that one cannot fix, one thing to do is to format the hard drive, and reinstall the OS, start from scratch in installing applications, etc. A lot of hassle, but it can work, to solve problems. Re-flashing a phone is similar, wiping out all data, starting new, etc. Sure, the most stable way would be to flash back to the same ROM I'm using now, the latest official one for my phone. But while going to the trouble of doing that, it seems like an opportune time to try one of these newer ROMs, that I've been curious about for some time, but never bothered with before.
What are some of the problems I've been having? (This just started a couple days ago.) Neither Bluetooth or Wi-Fi will turn on, for instance. OS freezing up a lot. Definitely seems like I need an OS reinstallation, and AFAIK on the phone, the way to do that is through re-flashing.
True, after down-flashing to an AKU 1 ROM for the purpose of CID-unlocking, and going back to my current 2.26 T-Mobile AKU 2 ROM, I should try the phone out a little from there, make sure everything's working, before flashing to one of the newer ROMs. No use wasting my time further if the problem is indeed hardware-based.
Edit--just occurred to me--I should probably try a hard reset before trying any re-flashing. If I still have the same problems after a hard reset, I guess I can assume the problem is hardware-based. I forgot how to hard reset my MDA, and cannot find the manual at the moment. Would someone like to remind me how to hard reset it?
In any case, I would still be interested in hearing ROM recommendations, although I am aware that different posters will have different opinions.
Myrddin Wyllt said:
Um, don't you think someone would have done this by now?
What you are asking (and believe me when I tell you, you are not the first, or the last, to ask it) is a subjective question, with subjective answers, no two of which will be the same.
While the idea is a noble one, it's been asked for by just about every new person on these threads (I probably did it too, once).
The simple answer: read the list of software on five or six of the most recently published ROMs at the Wizard Mobile 6 list, and flash the one you like best. These days, almost all of them are G4 safe, so you probably don't have to worry about that, and as long as you keep a copy of your service provider's base ROM, a copy of the Hard SPL, Soft SPL, and maybe a copy of Wizard Love ROM, you'll do fine.
Better yet, just stay with WM5 if you want stable. Stability's not really one of the high points of home-cooked ROMs, in my opinion.
Maybe you don't even need to flash. If you're having a hardware problem, flashing could be a bad idea. If your hardware decides to glitch while you're in the middle of a flash, you won't be waiting to get a new phone, you'll be in the store before you're ready. Why don't you try starting a new thread with your symptoms, and see if we can't help you solve your problem, instead of trying to mask it with a new ROM?
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This question have been asked and answered hundreds of times,if you cared to read and searched the forum,sure you cud have decided which version best suits you,but if you are looking for shorcuts,well,no one can help you here.Just an example check out this link ,there was no need to start a new thread for this :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371223
Hard Reset
Press and hold the Comm Manager button and Voice command button,keep the two buttons pressed and at the same time,use the stylus to press the reset button.
zabardast_1 said:
This question have been asked and answered hundreds of times,if you cared to read and searched the forum,sure you cud have decided which version best suits you,but if you are looking for shorcuts,well,no one can help you here.
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Unfortunately, this kind of snide reply seems to occur on every kind of forum--people who think it more important to criticize those asking for help, rather than helping them.
Was I looking for a shortcut? Damn yes I was! Anything wrong with that? Hell NO!
I have read a lot on this forum. There are probably hundreds of threads and thousands of posts devoted to the subject of the many alternate ROMs for the HTC Wizard.
Yes, I have other things to do with my life, than spend 24 hours per day, 7 days per week, researching the different ROMs for the HTC Wizard. My whole life is not devoted to the Wizard. If that is a problem for you, so be it.
Not having time to read every ROM thread, trying to decide which might be the best for me, I described some of what I was looking for, my preferences, etc., and asked the knowledgeable people here, to perhaps summarize a little, what are a few of the best ROMs, how they compare with one another, to perhaps make suggestions for ones I might be interested in, etc.
I think that would probably be of interest to others as well as me--to see a Wizard ROM summary thread--contrasting and comparing what might be considered some of the best of these ROMs, what advantages and disadvantages one has over the other, etc. I think such a thread would be very useful, and could even be made a sticky.
Yes, I'm sure others have asked similar questions before. Is that a problem? No. Every forum has similar questions that are asked. Every time new people see the new thread, there are new contributions and point of views expressed, new insights brought to light, etc. Even if the question is similar to those asked before, there will be new answers.
So, if you get your kicks making snide comments to everyone who asks for help, go ahead and do so. That is not a very useful way to contribute to a forum, however, IMO.
HOA!!!
Grrrrr8 lecture,I'm impressed.
But when there already is a thread started for the specific purpose,there's no need to start a new thread for this.If you don't have the time to read and search,than this forum is not for you,coz this forum believes ib 'Search & Seek' and BTW! respect for others and particularly seniors,I believe.
As for giving my help to others,you are most welcome to search and read all my threads,you'll appreciate its full of help and appreciations from the members whom I have tried my best to help and solved their problems.The thing is not to criticize,but to direct to the right solution,there was nothing in it which might have offended you.
How important was your question,you can judge by the response it got in 5 days,only 2 ? you posted on 10/9/2008,that proves its importance,got my point,there was no need to post such a question ,which has been posted and answered hundreds of time,its just merely wastage of forums resources!!!
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So, if you get your kicks making snide comments to everyone who asks for help, go ahead and do so. That is not a very useful way to contribute to a forum, however, IMO.
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It's too bad (and more than a little ironic) that what you are doing now is exactly the same kind of NOT CONTRIBUTING to this forum in any positive way that you accuse him of, opinion or not. In fact, looking through the threads you've started, it appears you have never contributed anything .
You might feel too busy to read the posts that others took the time to write (just for people like you, I will point out), but don't expect sympathy when you get the ban-hammer for starting a flame war because you think somehow your time is more valuable than everyone else's time here.
...a Wizard ROM summary thread--contrasting and comparing what might be considered some of the best of these ROMs, what advantages and disadvantages one has over the other, etc. I think such a thread would be very useful, and could even be made a sticky.
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There is a thread like this already, and zabardast_1 already gave you the link. Try to pay attention instead of just starting up your buzz saw. Again, you'll be the one that gets banned, not him.
Read the threads behind each of the ROMs. The posts detailing the bugs found will give you some idea of the stability of that ROM. You're on your own, now, since you copped an attitude. Staying friendly is the only way to get help around here, from now on.
Myrddin Wyllt said:
It's too bad (and more than a little ironic) that what you are doing now is exactly the same kind of NOT CONTRIBUTING to this forum in any positive way that you accuse him of, opinion or not. In fact, looking through the threads you've started, it appears you have never contributed anything .
You might feel too busy to read the posts that others took the time to write (just for people like you, I will point out), but don't expect sympathy when you get the ban-hammer for starting a flame war because you think somehow your time is more valuable than everyone else's time here.
There is a thread like this already, and zabardast_1 already gave you the link. Try to pay attention instead of just starting up your buzz saw. Again, you'll be the one that gets banned, not him.
Read the threads behind each of the ROMs. The posts detailing the bugs found will give you some idea of the stability of that ROM. You're on your own, now, since you copped an attitude. Staying friendly is the only way to get help around here, from now on.
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I did not start a flame war. I started a thread,asking for opinions on the different ROMs. It was he who started to personally criticize me, not the other way around. It wasn't I who "copped an attitude".
I never said that my time is more valuable than anyone else's here. I don't think that at all, and did not imply it in the least. However, some people apparently spend many hours per week on this Wizard ROM stuff. It seems to be a major hobby with some here. That's great! But I don't have the time to get involved to that degree. As said, I don't have the time to read thousands of posts about different ROMs. So, I think it would be good for many readers, to have a summary thread about them.
my favorite
After flashing over 50 different phones, the one I use most often is TNT's Official Wizard. But again, thats personal preference.
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Dsbtwins said:
After flashing over 50 different phones, the one I use most often is TNT's Official Wizard. But again, thats personal preference.
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This men is lazy and always needs the things easy, let him search... if not... let him with his wm5 or his wizard bricked, hope it wont happend.
all the web is full of his threads... saying stupid things , then said i dont want to start a flame...
HAHAHA
but he has the exactly words to tell you stupid like a gentleman!!!!
Hi guys, I'm a little new to this ROM thing and I would like to change mine because it keeps freezing. How do I know which ROM is the best for me and how do I know whats different between them. Sorry for the ignorance but I've read a few of the posts adn feel confident that I can do it I would just like a little help/ insight before I actually just go throwing something on here. Thanks Nyne!
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Hi guys, I'm a little new to this ROM thing and I would like to change mine because it keeps freezing. How do I know which ROM is the best for me and how do I know whats different between them. Sorry for the ignorance but I've read a few of the posts adn feel confident that I can do it I would just like a little help/ insight before I actually just go throwing something on here. Thanks Nyne!
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Well, first thing, I think this post belongs over in the General Forum. This is the place for Chef's to post their ROMs. But we'll let a Mod decide that and since I'm not a Mod...
The great thing about flashing ROMs is that there are so many to choose from. I can't tell you from week to week which one is my favorite, but then I do a weekly flash just to stay on top of the latest stuff
If your phone is freezing due to the well-known SMS bug, you can either find a ROM that replaced the HTC Messaging with something more stable.
If you are like me, you will probably pick your first ROM based on looks, and then from there you may end up flashing different ones that satisfy your current needs.
I've never heard of anyone breaking their phone by flashing too much, but you still want to be careful and only flash ROMs that have positive feedback in the comments. At least, at first.
After you get some experience, you may just decide to start going crazy and make your own
Best approach is to read the first few posts of the roms you are interested in, map them against any requirements you have and try a few. Read the various stickies and tutorials carefully first.
Closing this thread now.
WB
The title of the thread is just to get all you fine people steaming in here to tell me off. But now your here by your own free will...
I've been a long time browser of these forums and recently a more active member. I used to be a very amateur coder when I was yonger and know to a small extent the hard work you guys put into these roms, so seriously to everyone congratulations on some amazing efforts.
I did want to address the reason topic titles such as the one I chose here crop up however. When I had a diamond before my HD2 there were just a few good roms to choose from and I soon settled down and chose one after trying them out. A few months back I started this same process with my HD2 but found every ROM I flashed to have a few bugs which annoyed me in day to day use, and I eventually went back to stock. Since then I havn't really tried again.
Today I have again been looking at perhaps flashing to a cooked ROM and in the beginning of these efforts I tried out the search term "best HD2 ROM". The threads that resulted were obviously very short and the authors told off for being lazy and discrediting the great works of all the chefs here. But the very good point is made that there are ALOT of ROM's for the HD2, and whilst it may only take 5 mnins to flash a ROM it takes hours, if not days, to find out if it suited to you. With the risk of losing personal info on each flash and having to reconfigure your apps each time this can be a very tedious process.
I'm basically wondering if there is any way to have a thread that can provide a way of rating the advantages and disadvantages of each ROM without having to wade through topics with hundreds of pages of mostly useless posts. It just so daunting with all these ROM's that many people may never even start.
I am just now thinking of flexing my (somewhat out of date) webmastering ability to create a "ROM Review" website - good idea?
What are people's thoughts?
p.s. This is probably also in the wrong section of the forum... just clicked "new topic" where I was browsing without thinking where it should go, please move if appropriate, thanks.
I completely agree with your idea to open this thread.
Finally we have someone who wants to put it to rights. Because every day we have new ROM or several ROM's, and every time flashing and soft re-installation takes a lot of time... and after all that you understand that "this ROM is not really what you wanted to be"...
Go on with your idea.. and I think - this section is the right place for your thread.
you got my vote
Good to see I'm not alone here, any feedback is much appriciated, even if its just a +1
Agreed, Sir.
This was taken from another thread about a similar question
"I also see no point to a list of pro's or cons of any particular ROM as most are built for the same thing, speed and stability. The only real differences you are going to see are what programs the person has loaded."
If this is indeed the case. then a list of the roms with the space taken up by the rom on the phone. the apps installed and how quick, stable each one would be must surely be a good idea?
I truly hope you can follow through with your idea.
I think there is no such thing as "the" best ROM.
Each user has different preferences, especially WinMo smartphones are
rarely one the same like another: Included software, tweaks, mods, themes, designs.
The possibilities are endless.
Also, an earlier thread here at the HD2 forum about speed (with benchmarks
as neutral as possible) ended up in unfriendly discussions (which is a mild
term to describe what happened).
An HD2 is so extremely fast that I seriously doubt that the "average" user
can tell a big difference between different ROMs. Sometimes, a buggy ROM
may be obviously slower, but in the average case, the difference will just
not really be felt, but only perceived, sometimes only imagined.
I think that it is part of this forum that there is no rating of the available
ROMs. If you watch the forum, you can easily find out which ROMs seem to
have more acceptance and therefore more fans - and if you check the ROM
description and screenshots of the chef, you can easily find out if the ROM
is something you might like.
Just to finish: How exactly does a ROM qualify as "the best"? Speed? Come
on... Software which comes with it? Come on, again...
Imho, it all ends up in optical mods and tweaks plus some extremely basic
software which is really a must for everybody. If you would ask me what
this could be, I cannot give you any name because WinMo and Manila are
on most ROMs anyway...
I couldn't agree more Mega. Very brave of you to start this thread ; )
I was a bit of a flashaholic with both my Elf and my Raphael, but I still haven't flashed anything to my Leo because it's so hard to figure out exactly what I'm going to get. Apart from the features of each ROM, it's hard to get an idea of the things that might be missing from each. Like, have the original bugs been fixed? Stuff like the audio booster turning off, AAC files being mis-sorted in the audio player, volume keys still active when the screen is off and incremental volume control or even the relative volume between headphones and phone speaker. I just can't be bothered to start flashing a million ROMs to find out. That's not laziness by the way, honest! I'm sure I'll get over it and start flashing soon ; )
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I think there is no such thing as "the" best ROM.
Each user has different preferences, especially WinMo smartphones are
rarely one the same like another: Included software, tweaks, mods, themes, designs.
The possibilities are endless.
Also, an earlier thread here at the HD2 forum about speed (with benchmarks
as neutral as possible) ended up in unfriendly discussions (which is a mild
term to describe what happened).
An HD2 is so extremely fast that I seriously doubt that the "average" user
can tell a big difference between different ROMs. Sometimes, a buggy ROM
may be obviously slower, but in the average case, the difference will just
not really be felt, but only perceived, sometimes only imagined.
I think that it is part of this forum that there is no rating of the available
ROMs. If you watch the forum, you can easily find out which ROMs seem to
have more acceptance and therefore more fans - and if you check the ROM
description and screenshots of the chef, you can easily find out if the ROM
is something you might like.
Just to finish: How exactly does a ROM qualify as "the best"? Speed? Come
on... Software which comes with it? Come on, again...
Imho, it all ends up in optical mods and tweaks plus some extremely basic
software which is really a must for everybody. If you would ask me what
this could be, I cannot give you any name because WinMo and Manila are
on most ROMs anyway...
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I agree, how would one rate the BEST? Well to be honest you cant really as each person has there own needs and wants in a rom. What might be an Ideal rom for me might not be the best rom for you. I could rate a rom at 10 and you might give it a 2, then it turns into a bashing session and that can not be allowed. The rating system has been brought up many times before and each time it comes to the same end. There will never be an accurate way to tell the best rom. I am not trying to be harsh here but threads like this are beating a dead horse.
After speaking with the OP I have decided to reopen this thread. On the condition that this is "NOT" a best rom thread. This thread will be to help those that are new to ROM flashing. I will be keeping an eye on this thread and if it turn into a Best rom or bashing thread I will reclose it for good. I understand that sense the release of the HD 2 that alot of people are new to WM and with the available options in the rom thread it can be confusing. I am also moving this thread to the General Section as it is not Rom development. To all the new guys welcome.
Just wanna say thanks to Zelendal, the topic title originally wasn't constructive.
As we all know from doing a little reading about the ROM's, each one can be individually suited to different people, it like argument about which is the best smart phone or computer platform. So the kind of discussionj I was trying to provoke was about the best way to help out newcomers decide which ROM would indeed be best suited to them.
As I posted before I have been pondering making a seperate website that would allow some organisation of peoples opinions on the ROM's and I am interested as to how much support there would be amongst the community, I am also interested as to how the Cook's themselves would see such an project, providing it was done right.
sike222 said:
This was taken from another thread about a similar question
"I also see no point to a list of pro's or cons of any particular ROM as most are built for the same thing, speed and stability. The only real differences you are going to see are what programs the person has loaded."
If this is indeed the case. then a list of the roms with the space taken up by the rom on the phone. the apps installed and how quick, stable each one would be must surely be a good idea?
I truly hope you can follow through with your idea.
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You quote me but you leave out an important part. The problem with making a list is that ROMs change. What might have been an issue in one build might be working just fine in the next. Keeping up with these changes and trying to keep on top of a list would be a nightmare. Also this mystical list you are looking for is usually on one of the first few post of every ROM thread. Most good cooks will list all these things that you are looking for. Only way to tell if a ROM will fit your needs is to try it. Every bodies idea of a good ROM is different. What one person might see as a con another sees as a pro. Personal opinion is a ***** and unfortunately everybody has a different one.
Good luck but I don't see a list being started or maintained for very long. Nor do I see this thread going anywhere productive.
Will Badger -
I don't think anyone is dis-agreeing that each ROM is suited individually to different people. Each cook makes his ROM how he wants it and if you share those wants with that cook you a likly to enjoy his ROM. That doesn't make it any easier to find what ROM is indeed suited to you, and as a newbe it can be extremely daunting, there are 30 odd cooks for the HD2, thats ALOT of time spent flashing and tring out ROM's.
Having said that I have been pointed towards
http://www.xdaroms.com/Default.aspx
Which is more or less everything I had in mind for a ROM information site, so its safe to say I wont be needing to build another. Iv'e been on this forum for a few months now and have not seen this site, somthing like this would need the direct support of Cooks asking people to visit in their ROM threads to submit reviews of their ROM.
Personally if that could happen I think it would be great and a fantastic resourse for newbes but I know there are alot of differing opinions on here, and perhaps its somthing the chefs would have second thoughts about.
Cool nice to know you found what you were looking for. I still find it easier to just read the actual thread for the info I'm looking for. Going over that page quickly I see no information stating whether the any of the HD2 ROMs are T-mobile compatible. You can flash a standard HD2 ROM onto the newer T-Mo HD2 since they use different processor.
i hadn't come across that site either, lol... but looking at this thread i think the guy's pretty keen to make the site useful. see here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=658641
there's also another thread in the ROM section that might be helpful... i'm sure jaimeeee would appreciate any input and help you wanna give
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683743
Hi,
Thanks for the extra info, whilst the site I posted does seem to be more or less what I was thinking of doing myself it simply doesnt have the activity require to truely make it useful to anyone. It needs the support of the Forum, especially the Cooks if its going to succeed. I keep meaning to conatct the owner of th site to discuss how to push traffic onto the site but I got all caught up making a skin recently.
Hopefully we can make somthing of this!
hi
can someone recommend a nice custom rom from the development section?
thanks
markus
Well... there is no answer, the real question is what is the best rom for you?
You'll have to try by yourself and find your answer
*yoda mode off*
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It is a matter of opinions but try cm10, i use it or aokp
These are the most popular custom roms and has alot of updates esp cm10 but aokp more customizable
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As the poster above mentioned., Cm10 or Aokp. I settled with Aokp and am pretty happy!!!
Sent from my GT-P3113
Very happy with AOKP here as well on my GT-P5113. I haven't tried CM10 yet but I'm sure it's a smokin' ROM too!
AOKP!!
Hi,
I'm very happy with AOKP Build4 on my Tab2, CM10nightly on my P1000.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835160
Is based on latest ota. Will flash to the 3113 and 3110.
Blackbean ROM is the best period...
But seriously it's very subjective there is no best. Try them all and see what works for you.
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Maximinus I said:
But seriously it's very subjective there is no best. Try them all and see what works for you.
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Only good answer in this thread so far. What one person thinks is the best is not the same as what you think is the best. I don't know if there are 10 different ROMs available, but you could ask 10 people the same thing and get 10 different answers, so the only option is to try everything and go from there.
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Only good answer in this thread so far. What one person thinks is the best is not the same as what you think is the best. I don't know if there are 10 different ROMs available, but you could ask 10 people the same thing and get 10 different answers, so the only option is to try everything and go from there.
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Strongly disagree. These are the worst answers usually spit out by those who are enthusiasts, developers or lifeless fanboys. For the rest of us who dont always have the time to flash rom after rom testing and sorting out issues then resetting up each Rom while learning the differences and quirks we ask for opinions on what Roms are working for others. Yeah Yeah Yeah, in a perfect world it would be best if we could try each and every Rom then decide which one is best but the world is not perfect and peoples schedules vary which can make things difficult for many to do just that. Besides by the time youve gone through the process of installing and testing various roms some get updated and a new one pops up. Now What?
I know many of you think this question is annoying so if thats the case dont answer. Chances are most of those who come here asking the question know that ideally they should try a bunch of different Roms but for one reason or another cant. They are looking for a starting point, or a narrowed down group to test based off recommendations.
I also disagree with the 10 people 10 different answers thing. Im willing to bet the farm (Because I dont have one) That if 10 people try AOKP JB atleast 8 will like it. Because its damn near perfect.
Ive been around here for awhile now and have used this site as a tool to deal with quite a few different devices now and on every device I have been helped or saved time finding the perfect Rom in part due to threads just like this.
Thats the end of my rant and in no way do I mean any disrespect but the only thing wrong with threads like this is too many of you miss the opportunity to make these threads better by providing good solid user feedback.
IFLATLINEI said:
Strongly disagree. These are the worst answers usually spit out by those who are enthusiasts, developers or lifeless fanboys. For the rest of us who dont always have the time to flash rom after rom testing and sorting out issues then resetting up each Rom while learning the differences and quirks we ask for opinions on what Roms are working for others. Yeah Yeah Yeah, in a perfect world it would be best if we could try each and every Rom then decide which one is best but the world is not perfect and peoples schedules vary which can make things difficult for many to do just that. Besides by the time youve gone through the process of installing and testing various roms some get updated and a new one pops up. Now What?
I know many of you think this question is annoying so if thats the case dont answer. Chances are most of those who come here asking the question know that ideally they should try a bunch of different Roms but for one reason or another cant. They are looking for a starting point, or a narrowed down group to test based off recommendations.
I also disagree with the 10 people 10 different answers thing. Im willing to bet the farm (Because I dont have one) That if 10 people try AOKP JB atleast 8 will like it. Because its damn near perfect.
Ive been around here for awhile now and have used this site as a tool to deal with quite a few different devices now and on every device I have been helped or saved time finding the perfect Rom in part due to threads just like this.
Thats the end of my rant and in no way do I mean any disrespect but the only thing wrong with threads like this is too many of you miss the opportunity to make these threads better by providing good solid user feedback.
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Well if the OP used the search button maybe he would find countless threads and answers from "lifeless fanboys" , Kinda gets boring giving every new user a run down of each ROM. So here is a post in a thread by me, made hours before on the same day , in the same forum asking the same thing. May even help If the OP actually said what Tab was involved, My crystal ball is not what it used to be
AOKP build 4 , much more control over the ROM than say CM9/10. You choose what you want and how you want it. AOKP is more suited to the tab IMO as CyanogenMod has to cater for much more devices. Constant builds and updates. Id say AOKP is for advanced users
If you like to twiddle with your devices thats the ROM for you.If you dont , then go for CM10.
If your not that bothered go for AOSP Loads of ROMs to choose from , no way of saying the "best" as it dosent exist. Its a personal choice and to be honest they are all pretty much the samething, just some slighty more customisable than others.
If you want a "Stock" experience go for anything that "RomsWell" builds as its generally stable and all the bloat/crap has been removed.
Search the forums for your specific device and check out the official threads for each ROM. If you don't know what to do ASK in the threads and people will help you out no problems as we are all mostly friendly and helpful to each other.
First thing you should be thinking about is do you want "root" access ( full control over the ROM) ? Search for your device and make sure you understand what's to be done and you have to correct tools to do it. Read it again, you be surprised how many people mess it up and then make posts for help lol.
Once you are more confident with Android , try all the ROMs out , wont cost you a penny and you can see for yourself then but say good bye to your warranty as it will be void as soon as you mess with your tab. If you read up on things you wont have any problems at all.
Good luck and have fun.
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And people wonder why they get short answers to questions.
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Strongly disagree. These are the worst answers usually spit out by those who are enthusiasts, developers or lifeless fanboys. For the rest of us who dont always have the time to flash rom after rom testing and sorting out issues then resetting up each Rom while learning the differences and quirks we ask for opinions on what Roms are working for others. Yeah Yeah Yeah, in a perfect world it would be best if we could try each and every Rom then decide which one is best but the world is not perfect and peoples schedules vary which can make things difficult for many to do just that. Besides by the time youve gone through the process of installing and testing various roms some get updated and a new one pops up. Now What?
I know many of you think this question is annoying so if thats the case dont answer. Chances are most of those who come here asking the question know that ideally they should try a bunch of different Roms but for one reason or another cant. They are looking for a starting point, or a narrowed down group to test based off recommendations.
I also disagree with the 10 people 10 different answers thing. Im willing to bet the farm (Because I dont have one) That if 10 people try AOKP JB atleast 8 will like it. Because its damn near perfect.
Ive been around here for awhile now and have used this site as a tool to deal with quite a few different devices now and on every device I have been helped or saved time finding the perfect Rom in part due to threads just like this.
Thats the end of my rant and in no way do I mean any disrespect but the only thing wrong with threads like this is too many of you miss the opportunity to make these threads better by providing good solid user feedback.
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By your logic, this thread is still pointless then. You can go to the development section, look at the threads, and find the most popular ROM and flash it then. While you may not like it, why should I waste my time typing a response when someone can find the most popular ROMs fairly easy by just going and looking at pageviews and number of responses for ROMs in the development section? If people want user feedback, go read different ROM threads.
Maybe people don't have time to flash everything, but how long does it take to figure out you don't like a ROM? Like 2-3 hrs at most, maybe a day or two? You could take a day or two, flash 5-6 ROMs and find out what you like best. Something new comes along, make a backup, test the new ROM, see how it compares. Big feature or change comes to a ROM you didn't like before, try it out again. Get some free time and looking for something to do, flash a ROM you haven't used before. While you may think it's inconceivable to test everything, you can sample a decent majority of the stuff out there quite easily.
Personally, I don't want AOKP, though I have never tried it, and I even moved away from CM10. I don't need 90% of the stuff that is added into them, so why would I use them? I'm guessing that most people don't even use half of the stuff available in the ROMs they flash, they just flash and use them more as a "me too" mentality when they could just find a minimal ROM that has only the features they need and use, and with AOSP, it isn't that hard to find something like that. The other reason people hate threads like this is that every new user seems to think that they deserve to have their own thread asking the same question.
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The other reason people hate threads like this is that every new user seems to think that they deserve to have their own thread asking the same question.
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Oh Yeah thats exactly what their thinking. Those selfish bastards How dare they ask a question. How dare they in essence take a current poll of the most popular Rom. How dare they disturb what would otherwise be a very neat and organized way to archive information on Android mods and roms. The OP isnt asking you anyways. Hes asking people who are willing to give a response worth posting. I guess ive become more tolerant of threads like this simply because to the newbie this place can be overwhelming. Also even the experienced can get a little overwhelmed when moving to a different device. Its only natural to ask questions and whether or not they seem like worthwhile questions to you doesnt matter. Leave it up to the mods to decide.
Besides just think about how many newbs didnt post this because there was already one on the first page. Lighten up. I learned alot from this site and all because someone before me was tolerant of my newb status.
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Oh Yeah thats exactly what their thinking. Those selfish bastards How dare they ask a question. How dare they in essence take a current poll of the most popular Rom. How dare they disturb what would otherwise be a very neat and organized way to archive information on Android mods and roms. The OP isnt asking you anyways. Hes asking people who are willing to give a response worth posting. I guess ive become more tolerant of threads like this simply because to the newbie this place can be overwhelming. Also even the experienced can get a little overwhelmed when moving to a different device. Its only natural to ask questions and whether or not they seem like worthwhile questions to you doesnt matter. Leave it up to the mods to decide.
Besides just think about how many newbs didnt post this because there was already one on the first page. Lighten up. I learned alot from this site and all because someone before me was tolerant of my newb status.
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By being tolerant of duplicate threads asking the same question over and over, you promote the same behavior in the future. If one ROM was popular yesterday, three days ago, last week, etc., do you really think the opinion on what is the best will change that much over the short amount of time? Doubtful. In that case, why is it so hard to just find the previous thread and read it? If you don't like the answer, bump it and ask for newer opinions. Maybe, just maybe, you can spend 20 minutes just reading through ROM threads in the development section and do the research yourself too, since users tend to put opinions in the thread of the ROM, and you'll also get a sense of recent issues.
I am very tolerant of anyone, not just new people, that tries to help themselves first by searching and reading first and posting second. I don't think it's too much to ask for someone to do their own research and form their own opinion on what is best for them. If you really want someone else to tell you what is the best, go buy an iPhone or iPad, otherwise, people need to stop being lazy and do the work on their own. Maybe if everyone didn't expect everything to be handed to them all the time and actually worked a little bit, the world would be a better place.
Lol....seems we might need a "what's the best "best Rom thread" thread to read" post....
I'm just saying, I've always wondered why people don't trend to just look at dev section and take note of which thread is most active, which ROM seems to have most posts on its thread lately, and use that as a starting point for "best rom". Since the threads with the most activity is most likely going to be the same users chiming in to say "Try XX ROM it's the best!"
Either way, no matter how many of these threads i see, it never gets old reading all the posts in these threads of people arguing back and forth about why the thread is or isn't necessary. quite entertaining sometimes how much people get their panties in a bunch over this lol.
What the OP and the person who claims they don't have time to flash roms is missing. Is that there is no best ROM for everyone. If you don't have the time and don't want to learn then why did you root? Stock is the best ROM for people who don't like to experiment.
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Hi,
First of all, I want to start by thanking all the wonderful devs and contributors for keeping this forum an AMAZING place to be a member of. I'm not a very high end user, by no means a flashaholic, but i always come back to this community for knowledge, and consider myself very lucky to have been able have it as a resource for such a long time now.
Anyways, I have been running on the same rom since June and it feels like time for an update. I was just wondering what some of you are currently using, and what you might recommend as a proven rom to be a good long term choice. I don't really need all the most cutting edge features, just looking for something crisp, stable, and with decent battery life.
I had never heard of MF3 before today, but after doing some reading i am pretty sure i want to stay away from it. Not sure if some roms will update me automatically to MF3 but please let me know if that is the case because i am pretty certain i am not on it now, and would prefer not to be.
Thank you as always!
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Hi,
First of all, I want to start by thanking all the wonderful devs and contributors for keeping this forum an AMAZING place to be a member of. I'm not a very high end user, by no means a flashaholic, but i always come back to this community for knowledge, and consider myself very lucky to have been able have it as a resource for such a long time now.
Anyways, I have been running on the same rom since June and it feels like time for an update. I was just wondering what some of you are currently using, and what you might recommend as a proven rom to be a good long term choice. I don't really need all the most cutting edge features, just looking for something crisp, stable, and with decent battery life.
I had never heard of MF3 before today, but after doing some reading i am pretty sure i want to stay away from it. Not sure if some roms will update me automatically to MF3 but please let me know if that is the case because i am pretty certain i am not on it now, and would prefer not to be.
Thank you as always!
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Best ROM is always subjective and because of this, these kinds of threads are not allowed. If you want to know the features of each ROM, check the development and original development forums and read the OPs of each ROM thread to see if it includes what you want. Read a little further into the individual threads and you will see if there are any problems or stability issues. You can check the "pinned" threads in the General section for an easy to navigate list of ROMs and their links also. Good luck.
I have asked this question in the past, and while i know it is not a mod favorite topic, i have never had one closed. Everyone involved was respectful of everyone's work, and it never turned into a pissing contest. There must be more than 50 roms out there between the two boards and for someone who is not so in the loop on the day to day, it could take days to do enough research to weed it down to 3-5 rims to pick between, Surely there is no real harm in asking what people are using and which ones they like?
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I have asked this question in the past, and while i know it is not a mod favorite topic, i have never had one closed. Everyone involved was respectful of everyone's work, and it never turned into a pissing contest. There must be more than 50 roms out there between the two boards and for someone who is not so in the loop on the day to day, it could take days to do enough research to weed it down to 3-5 rims to pick between, Surely there is no real harm in asking what people are using and which ones they like?
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I agree that there is no harm in asking, but I also think there is harm in thinking that only putting a few days into research is too much. If it takes weeks, it should still be done. It is up to you to educate yourself about the phone and ROMs no matter how long it takes. However, that is just my view, the mods may feel differently. Good luck.
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I have asked this question in the past, and while i know it is not a mod favorite topic, i have never had one closed. Everyone involved was respectful of everyone's work, and it never turned into a pissing contest. There must be more than 50 roms out there between the two boards and for someone who is not so in the loop on the day to day, it could take days to do enough research to weed it down to 3-5 rims to pick between, Surely there is no real harm in asking what people are using and which ones they like?
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Maybe a different technique would be for you to review the dev threads and see what roms have the most replies. This would give you a starting point of what others are using and if they are having any troubles with those roms.
As scott14719 states, what works for him may not be what best for me and what is best for me may not be good for you.
Even if we did make a suggestion, chances are after you spend some more time reviewing other roms, you will want to try something else.
Make a nandroid, see what looks good to you and test it. If you don't like it, revert to your backup.
Repeat until you find what works best for you.
Good luck!
In your case "Dillsnik" your option dont stop with just the roms you also have the option to flash different kernels.so if you like a rom it can run better/worst on different kernels to.i know its not an answer to your question but it really is a feel type of deal only you can feel for yourself. I took the OTA update to MF3 for a new challenge and its been just that.
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Good ROM/Best ROM/What should I flash threads are forbidden. If you're curious about what works and what doesn't, read the OP of any ROM. If the developer has released it, any and all issues will be listed there, along with the proper instructions of how to flash. Try a few, see what you like. Asking others for recommendations generally leads to all the "fanboys" coming out of the woodwork to flame other devs/ROMs.
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