I just rooted w/Captain_Throwback - Unrevoked version, and everything checks out.
I am now interested in trying out the various ROM's out there, and was just wondering am I just restricted to the ClockWorkMod development, or can I venture out into the unknown/related to ClockWorkMod development choices...???
Cwm is just one recovery. I personally use amon ra. Most roms are signed and can be flashed with both. Just a matter of preference really.
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Yeah your right Amon Ra, seems to be a better Recovery. It also gives you a lot more abilities while in HBoot, Thanks...! I will keep an eye out for signed ROM's, again thanks for the advice.
neo_knight_037 said:
Yeah your right Amon Ra, seems to be a better Recovery. It also gives you a lot more abilities while in HBoot, Thanks...! I will keep an eye out for signed ROM's, again thanks for the advice.
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Signed or not doesn't matter with amonra. You can flash both. Its cwm that needed signed roms. Although that might have changed in the last two years since I've used cwm lol.
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At OP, you said you used captain throwback method and unrevoked. I'm surprised captains method didn't include amonRA out of the box,...I know he strongly advises amon,... as do pretty much all of us on the Evo forum.
As to what you can flash, like THREESTRIPEBAND said, you can flash any rom in the Evo forum. I know I've looked at Sammy forums and was a bit confused because the rom title would specify it's a CWM ROM or Odin ROM, which I don't understand what your recovery has to do with your ROM, but it ain't like that here. (Maybe it's a kernel or signature issue when dealing with sammys ? )
Anyhow, you got tons of choices here. Happy flashing.
Welcome to the Evo root community.
sent from AOKP heaven
neo_knight_037 said:
Yeah your right Amon Ra, seems to be a better Recovery. It also gives you a lot more abilities while in HBoot, Thanks...! I will keep an eye out for signed ROM's, again thanks for the advice.
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It does'nt matter if a rom or any other zipped file is signed or not,when you want to install it,the reason for signing is a digital signature a developer puts on his developement,so noone can edit it and say its theirs.
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At OP, you said you used captain throwback method and unrevoked. I'm surprised captains method didn't include amonRA out of the box,...I know he strongly advises amon,... as do pretty much all of us on the Evo forum.
As to what you can flash, like THREESTRIPEBAND said, you can flash any rom in the Evo forum. I know I've looked at Sammy forums and was a bit confused because the rom title would specify it's a CWM ROM or Odin ROM, which I don't understand what your recovery has to do with your ROM, but it ain't like that here. (Maybe it's a kernel or signature issue when dealing with sammys ? )
Anyhow, you got tons of choices here. Happy flashing.
Welcome to the Evo root community.
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Oh, it does include and recommend RA recovery. However, if you don't follow my tip to have unrevoked install RA recovery, then you end up with CWM. I guess people don't like my tips .
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Is there anyone working on getting amon ra's recovery working on the epic?
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We have Clockwork. What does Amon Ra do that's different?
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We have Clockwork. What does Amon Ra do that's different?
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Well it actually wipes correctly for one...
+10 for amon ra's recovery.
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I would love to see amon ra on the epic, I had it on my hero and I like it so much more than clockwork.
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I'm the same way! Clockwork Recovery is fine and all, and it gets the job done well enough. But I'm only using it because its the only option available.
I swore by Amon_RA back with my Nexus. I LOVED the fact that people made themed/different colored versions of Amon_RA and it was just better formatted/layout/buttons then Clockwork.
I, too, would love an RA-Recovery as it is so much cleaner than clockwork.
Anyone know what would actually be involved in making this happen? I'm guessing a version from another Galaxy S would be a good start?
I know NOTHING about making this work...just curious if their is any kind of update? Devs anyone working on this? God I hope so
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Can any dev figure this out please? since you guys r waiting on the official froyo and kernel source
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Can any dev figure this out please? since you guys r waiting on the official froyo and kernel source
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This has been answered a hundred times. We, over at ACS, initially attempted to make this happen. The port was above us as our devices are so different than any htc device. It essentially has to be rebuilt from source. We even attempted to get the creator involved in order to help. The problem we have is he lives in europe. Obviously with the epic being cdma, there is a problem. The device is not accessible to him. Amon_ra is more than likely not going to happen.
That's to bad too. Amon Ra is so much better then clockwork. But at least you guys tried. Thanks ACS
Nice 6 month old zombie thread.
So I wanna get cm on my buddies evo. But after half an hour just browsing around I am pretty overwhelmed on obtaining no frills instructions. Can anyone give me a link or guide on the most recent and quickest way to root and install cwm? The wikis useless to me. Too many methods up there and no way of knowing which is the best and most recent method. Thnx in advance doods.
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Use unrevoked to root, flash CM from recovery.
This is good but it would be faster but less informative to use autoroot. There is or was a link to it on the evo wiki page.
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Use unrevoked to root, flash CM from recovery.
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Autoroot isn't nearly as reliable as Unrevoked. I see too many people posting about borked roots because of autoroot. I've used Unrevoked probably 15 times and have not had a single issue. Here's the how-to for Unrevoked.
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Autoroot isn't nearly as reliable as Unrevoked. I see too many people posting about borked roots because of autoroot. I've used Unrevoked probably 15 times and have not had a single issue. Here's the how-to for Unrevoked.
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I agree unrevoked has worked for me twice with the evo and twice with the hero when I had it. one evo for me one for my dad,one hero for me, one for my friend. Also, cw can b installed through recovery but I recommend flashing amon ra.
Google for rooting for dummies. It's on a different forum but its a complete step by step guide to rooting. And installing tons and kernels and more. It's the First link
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for me.. on my 003 evo.. built in Oct.
this is what I used.
root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
i personally stay away from ROM managers and clockwork... and I have not had any issues.... on my Hero and EVO....
Well my goal is to flash a senseless rom with the fps uncapped. But seeing that there's no unified simple surefire way to even root I think im gonna pass. Everything seems convoluted. Anything out there like 1 click root on the epic? You know all in one root, recovery, etc? Sorry I own an epic and from what im seeing its true what they say. Samsuck makes things easy to flash.
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ok...
gald we could help.
I've used auto root 5 times with no issues. I'm not sure what issues others have had buy nine here so far. I'd give it a try. Off course the PC I did it on I used evolution prior and maybe it was because I had all the driver installed. Idk. Good luck and God speed my friend.
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Well my goal is to flash a senseless rom with the fps uncapped. But seeing that there's no unified simple surefire way to even root I think im gonna pass. Everything seems convoluted. Anything out there like 1 click root on the epic? You know all in one root, recovery, etc? Sorry I own an epic and from what im seeing its true what they say. Samsuck makes things easy to flash.
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Unrevoked is a one click root. It will root and install clockwork in one shot. Check the link I posted.
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Unrevoked is a one click root. It will root and install clockwork in one shot. Check the link I posted.
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Didn't realize it was one click root now, that's good to here. Last time I used it I had to command line half the hack.
EVO(CM7•4G)=110°iPWNπ
Lol thanks man. Im doing a bit of research before I jump in. Can't wait to see what this thing can do when released from its shackles.
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on unrevoked can you just do everything via phone? (click on it and let it do it's thing and bam it's rooted?)
r916 said:
on unrevoked can you just do everything via phone? (click on it and let it do it's thing and bam it's rooted?)
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No, it needs to be run from a PC but it's pretty damn easy.
I would suggest once rooted, grab RA Recovery Manager replace Clockwork Mod with it. You get more control over backups with it, plus the backup/restore process seems faster with it.
Download link, plus instructions on how to flash it are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
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I would suggest once rooted, grab RA Recovery Manager replace Clockwork Mod with it. You get more control over backups with it, plus the backup/restore process seems faster with it.
Download link, plus instructions on how to flash it are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
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+1. RA is the better and more reliable of the two.
The one time I used Autoroot, my phone hung on recovery.
The first time I used Unrevoked, it failed. I used it again, but this time in Linux and it worked fine.
Every phone is different, but the overwhelming consensus is to use Unrevoked
Dan330 said:
for me.. on my 003 evo.. built in Oct.
this is what I used.
root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
i personally stay away from ROM managers and clockwork... and I have not had any issues.... on my Hero and EVO....
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I agree with you, use unrevoked and then flash Amon and stay away from Rom Manager......
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I guess everyphone is different.
I had to use rom manager to load up cm7 nighty. For whatever reason goings into recovery manually and selecting the rom it just hung there for 20 mins. Where as it worked fine with rim manager.
Damn I wish we all had the same experiences with this thing.
playya said:
I agree with you, use unrevoked and then flash Amon and stay away from Rom Manager......
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i had clockwork mod but wanted to try amon ra so i flashed it and now cant get rid of it.. anyone know how?
you can use rom manager to flash the latest CWM recovery or if you have the recovery image file you can flash it via flash_image with adb or terminal emulator
the command would be something like
flash_image recovery filename.img
Keep Amon....there is NO good reason to use Clockworkmod.
IMO Amon is a better choice than CWM. I have seen lots of issues with CWM and Rom Manager while Amon RA has had fewer and seems to do a better job. If you are certain you want to switch, go here and follow the directions to get CWM 2.6.0.1
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Keep Amon....there is NO good reason to use Clockworkmod.
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+1............
Stay on Amon RA.
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its funny how everyone states its better but doesnt provide any evidence.
flame on
drdrewdown said:
its funny how everyone states its better but doesnt provide any evidence.
flame on
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The only evidence I can provide is the number of times I had issues with installing roms and had major problems. As soon as I switched to AmonRa all the problems disappeared. Some say the AmonRa clears Dalvik and cache much better. Give it a try.... you can easily switch back and forth.
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The only evidence I can provide is the number of times I had issues with installing roms and had major problems. As soon as I switched to AmonRa all the problems disappeared. Some say the AmonRa clears Dalvik and cache much better. Give it a try.... you can easily switch back and forth.
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I also had problems with cwm flashing new roms/kernels and backing up and restoring. After going to amon ra I haven't had any problems
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I had problems installing roms with cwm. Had a couple of boot loop issues because if it. I don't like to use it. Hey, if cwm works for you, fine, last I checked this was a general forum for everyone to give feedback on their personal experiences.
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drdrewdown said:
its funny how everyone states its better but doesnt provide any evidence.
flame on
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That's a good point. If you don't mind, I'll share a couple things from my limited experience:
1. Amon-Ra allows you to select which partitions to wipe, making flashing new roms much easier and more intuitive.
2. It allows you to select which partitions to include in nandroid backups as well
3. CWM is no longer backward compatible with older types of flash package scripts. I don't entirely understand this, but I needed to flash rooted OTA 3.70 a few times and had to downgrade my CWM.
Sadly, I'm currently unrooted because of a new phone and the stupid GB OTA update. My own stupid fault, but I'm jealous of any custom recovery at this point...
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That's a good point. If you don't mind, I'll share a couple things from my limited experience:
1. Amon-Ra allows you to select which partitions to wipe, making flashing new roms much easier and more intuitive.
2. It allows you to select which partitions to include in nandroid backups as well
3. CWM is no longer backward compatible with older types of flash package scripts. I don't entirely understand this, but I needed to flash rooted OTA 3.70 a few times and had to downgrade my CWM.
Sadly, I'm currently unrooted because of a new phone and the stupid GB OTA update. My own stupid fault, but I'm jealous of any custom recovery at this point...
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1) you can format any partition in CWM
2) you can choose advance restore when doing a nandroid restore
3) this is well explained in Koush's thread regarding amend vs edify scripting
i understand where you're coming from tho, & i'm sorry you have an unrooted device... i'm not sure how i'd handle that if it was me lol
however on the flipside
i was just vaguely making a point that perhaps all these people who claim Amon_ra is sooo much better are often times the same people who claim they've wiped cache/dalvik 18x & are still having problems.
i personally have no problem with either recovery, they both do exactly what they are supposed to. its quite disrespectful to Koush who is an awesome part of the whole picture. Without him supporting & creating CWM for the crazy amount of devices, where would we all be right now? Not to mention he's a huge part of cyanogemod & for everyone to say his recovery is garbage isn't kosher imo.
its personal preference & honestly none of this has anything to do with the OP & the question he had lol
i mean no hard feelings about anything i've said, so i hope nobody takes offense.
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1) you can format any partition in CWM
2) you can choose advance restore when doing a nandroid restore
3) this is well explained in Koush's thread regarding amend vs edify scripting
i understand where you're coming from tho, & i'm sorry you have an unrooted device... i'm not sure how i'd handle that if it was me lol
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Sounds reasonable to me. I never figured out how to do those things with CWM, but I was new to rooting at the time and eventually switched to Amon-Ra
By the way, did the person who started this thread ever figure out how to get back to CWM? Doesn't CWM have PC36IMG.zip that you can download and allow to flash?
Only reason I ever switched to Amon's recovery is for the older script support, and really I don't even use that unless it's for a theme for a rom or something. I'm just too lazy to switch back to CWM lawlz.
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1) you can format any partition in CWM
2) you can choose advance restore when doing a nandroid restore
3) this is well explained in Koush's thread regarding amend vs edify scripting
i understand where you're coming from tho, & i'm sorry you have an unrooted device... i'm not sure how i'd handle that if it was me lol
however on the flipside
i was just vaguely making a point that perhaps all these people who claim Amon_ra is sooo much better are often times the same people who claim they've wiped cache/dalvik 18x & are still having problems.
i personally have no problem with either recovery, they both do exactly what they are supposed to. its quite disrespectful to Koush who is an awesome part of the whole picture. Without him supporting & creating CWM for the crazy amount of devices, where would we all be right now? Not to mention he's a huge part of cyanogemod & for everyone to say his recovery is garbage isn't kosher imo.
its personal preference & honestly none of this has anything to do with the OP & the question he had lol
i mean no hard feelings about anything i've said, so i hope nobody takes offense.
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Right On Brother
drdrewdown said:
1) you can format any partition in CWM
2) you can choose advance restore when doing a nandroid restore
3) this is well explained in Koush's thread regarding amend vs edify scripting
i understand where you're coming from tho, & i'm sorry you have an unrooted device... i'm not sure how i'd handle that if it was me lol
however on the flipside
i was just vaguely making a point that perhaps all these people who claim Amon_ra is sooo much better are often times the same people who claim they've wiped cache/dalvik 18x & are still having problems.
i personally have no problem with either recovery, they both do exactly what they are supposed to. its quite disrespectful to Koush who is an awesome part of the whole picture. Without him supporting & creating CWM for the crazy amount of devices, where would we all be right now? Not to mention he's a huge part of cyanogemod & for everyone to say his recovery is garbage isn't kosher imo.
its personal preference & honestly none of this has anything to do with the OP & the question he had lol
i mean no hard feelings about anything i've said, so i hope nobody takes offense.
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Did you edit this, or did I just miss the latter half the first time reading it?? Very good point, and I'm wondering again if the OP got the help he needed
Yeah, lack of root sucks... I think there's some new exploits coming our way very soon though!
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Did you edit this, or did I just miss the latter half the first time reading it?? Very good point, and I'm wondering again if the OP got the help he needed
Yeah, lack of root sucks... I think there's some new exploits coming our way very soon though!
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yea sorry man i was editing as you posted.
i wonder if i'd be tempted to sell my 2.3 evo on ebay then buy one with 2.2 on it lol
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its funny how everyone states its better but doesnt provide any evidence.
flame on
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Because it's already been documented a thousand times on xda. Why reiterate over and over again?
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yea sorry man i was editing as you posted.
i wonder if i'd be tempted to sell my 2.3 evo on ebay then buy one with 2.2 on it lol
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No problem. I was just confused, lol.
Lots of other people have done that... I was "out of my mind" for a while, but it looks like I'll be able to root it again very soon!
It's Dominos Pizza vs. Pizza Hut. Everyone likes Pizza, some like Pizza Hut, most like Dominos. You can't fault either side, but you can't realistically just proclaim your preference is better either.
I used CWM for awhile, I like AR better. That's just me, and for some reason, most people agree. I really don't think it's a case of the blind following the blind.
Most of the heavy hitters use AR. If for no other reason, that's good enough for me.
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Someone actually took my idea of the auto reboot seriously, epic win. Thanks.
going to have to flash this later
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So, will this be backward compatible with older amon ra backups?
And thanks for heads up.
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For me when I tried to do a nand restore and reboot my phone like usual it kept sending me to the bootloader. so I tried turning off the phone then turn it back on still sent me straight to boot loader. Flashed a rom rebooted and didn't get sent to boot loader..hmm
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flashed this afternoon have been working fine for me for a few flash fixes and what not so far
I flashed this version over the old version and when i went to restore a rom,it sent me to the bootloader,then i tried it again,i got stuck in a bootloop,since im the kind of person that doesnt give up easy,i tried it again and it finally restored my rom,i booted back into recovery from the rom and the damned recovery went back to the old version,now how is that?Too weird,i think ill just stick with the older version for now.
Diablo, just a thought, doesn't the newer version of ra allow for backup of recovery? (I still use old ra 1.80). If so, did your nandroid contain recovery?
sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
scottspa74 said:
Diablo, just a thought, doesn't the newer version of ra allow for backup of recovery? (I still use old ra 1.80). If so, did your nandroid contain recovery?
sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
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Yes and no.
I didn't post this on xda yet for a reason, so it would be good practice to ask the person doing the work if they want it shared broader first.
That being said, the issue with restoring has to do with the flash_image binary possible getting wiped if you're doing wiping before your restore. (<-- that's not the case)
If you just restore, it should work fine. I've pulled it offline for now until I get it fixed. Thanks. Also, if you want to help, please provide me some feedback on the rootz thread for now.
you guys should really be respectful to developers and not cross post stuff without even asking. sometimes there's a reason "why" they don't share here first. i think you just found out why in this case. is it really THAT hard to send a pm? it's not like you made the discovery of the year or something by doing this. instead you've caused people to probably have problems with their recovery that could have been avoided had you NOT put this thread on here and copied over smelkus zwiki link before HE was ready to do it himself. have fun.
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What is the best version to use. I am using 2.3
Hockeytown1970 said:
What is the best version to use. I am using 2.3
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for now 3.11 by dellisdree. When smelkus issues get ironed out then his will be the best.
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"Told you I'd be back. Say you miss me. Say it like you mean it!' - David Lee Roth
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for now 3.11 by dellisdree. When smelkus issues get ironed out then his will be the best.
ropodope
"Told you I'd be back. Say you miss me. Say it like you mean it!' - David Lee Roth
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Or amon-ra-supersonic-3.11-gnm.zip is pretty slick.
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3.11 by drellisdee IS the amnoRa 3 11.gnm
Edit: oops. Meant to quote oodork
sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
Hey guys. If the title didn't apply, I am new to this forum. I just came from The evo 3d. Switched to this phone. While I think its very cool, I noticed that this forum does not have many ROMs or mods to play around with. That's ok. This phone is only a couple months old so I'm sure with time, more and more development will occur.Anyway to my point. I noticed that my phone is very different than my evo 3d than what I was used to as far as just flashing a recovery and installing a rom or kernel inside recovery. Gaining full s-off etc..
My questions is can someone show me what's different as far as gaining s-off
Method of installing roms
If someone would be kind to point me in the right direction that would be great. Thank you.
Jsparta26 said:
Hey guys. If the title didn't apply, I am new to this forum. I just came from The evo 3d. Switched to this phone. While I think its very cool, I noticed that this forum does not have many ROMs or mods to play around with. That's ok. This phone is only a couple months old so I'm sure with time, more and more development will occur.Anyway to my point. I noticed that my phone is very different than my evo 3d than what I was used to as far as just flashing a recovery and installing a rom or kernel inside recovery. Gaining full s-off etc..
My questions is can someone show me what's different as far as gaining s-off
Method of installing roms
If someone would be kind to point me in the right direction that would be great. Thank you.
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Welcome to the RAZR m....sorry i can't help you, i would if i could
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Root is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940630
Safestrap and a rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012093
Hope this helps. I'm a newb to android, but I think I got this right
What is safestrap if you don't mind me asking?
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What is safestrap if you don't mind me asking?
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Its the recovery that we use with Motorola devices without an unlocked bootloader similar to twrp. We can flash basically anything but kernels and radios I believe. It also forces us to partition our internal memory unfortunately...but it also allows us to boot into multiple different roms without losing settings or apps
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Yoo Sparta follow antp121's thread in the general forum for a complete guide on how to use safe strap for installing cm10 or any other rom for that matter. It will really help you! Helped me a lot... Especially me coming from the droid 3 with clockwork mod and no safe strap. Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997229
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jarzy00 said:
Yoo Sparta follow antp121's thread in the general forum for a complete guide on how to use safe strap for installing cm10 or any other rom for that matter. It will really help you! Helped me a lot... Especially me coming from the droid 3 with clockwork mod and no safe strap. Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997229
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Thank you guys for all if your very informative information. I will look into these links that were provided for me. I usually go and learn everything I can about a device before attempting to gain root, s-off, or unlocking boot loaders. So far I learned that its not possible to unlock boot loader or gain s-off. Believe me when I was on evo 3d. HTC made it very difficult for us to get s-off by patching up the exploits in the hboot by updating it with every ota update. Luckily, we had some very talented devs to get past the patches and come up with solutions.
I only hope the same could be done with the droid razr's boot loaders. I am just spit balling but would it be possible to petition Motorola to come up with an unlock method and post it on their website like HTC did. Again just spit balling lol