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How do I COMPLETELY backup before starting to root for first time?

So, yes I searched around, and got close answers, but nothing that answers my ?'s exactly. About to root for 1st time, and then install CM, but before I start to mess with my phone at all, I want to back it up COMPLETELY...i.e. contacts, apps, app settings, dxtop homescreen shortcuts + colors, etc. etc. etc. And then, if I mess up root, how do I start over and re-install everything?
Also, once I root, will everything will be gone from my phone? I saw a thread @ androidcommunities saying yes, but is there anyway to "backup" the apps on my SD? Then copy the files SD -> computer? I don't want to install each app 1 by 1 again...And through my searchings, I'm afraid you're going to say "I have to", and if that's the case, and use apps2sd, will I EVER have to download apps 1 by 1 again?

4thephil said:
So, yes I searched around, and got close answers, but nothing that answers my ?'s exactly. About to root for 1st time, and then install CM, but before I start to mess with my phone at all, I want to back it up COMPLETELY...i.e. contacts, apps, app settings, dxtop homescreen shortcuts + colors, etc. etc. etc. And then, if I mess up root, how do I start over and re-install everything?
Also, once I root, will everything will be gone from my phone? I saw a thread @ androidcommunities saying yes, but is there anyway to "backup" the apps on my SD? Then copy the files SD -> computer? I don't want to install each app 1 by 1 again...And through my searchings, I'm afraid you're going to say "I have to", and if that's the case, and use apps2sd, will I EVER have to download apps 1 by 1 again?
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Even if you backup your apps, you'll still have to reinstall them one by one from your backup. The Market has apps that can help backup your apps to apk formats. MyBackup Pro will backup app settings and shortcuts afaik, but it isn't free. Why worry about backing up contacts, they're sync'd with your gmail account.

thanks! do you recall what app backs my apps into an apk? and then what do i do from there?
agh, 100 apps, 1 by 1, wowsers...theres gotta be a better way?

4thephil said:
thanks! do you recall what app backs my apps into an apk? and then what do i do from there?
agh, 100 apps, 1 by 1, wowsers...theres gotta be a better way?
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How the hell do you fit 100 apps in an unrooted G1? Mine was full at the high 30's.
You can use AppManager.

I have AppManager, looking at AppManager Pro with batch install. However, last time my phone pooped on me (when updating to 1.5 with Dark Keys installed), I had to hard reset. App Manager installed all my apps. However, I had to go back and do it again 1 by 1 because the Market didn't recognize that my apps were installed when I re-installed through AppManager.
Is this problem fixed? Or is there a fix to this?
P.S. 113 apps (including default ones) installed

4thephil said:
I have AppManager, looking at AppManager Pro with batch install. However, last time my phone pooped on me (when updating to 1.5 with Dark Keys installed), I had to hard reset. App Manager installed all my apps. However, I had to go back and do it again 1 by 1 because the Market didn't recognize that my apps were installed when I re-installed through AppManager.
Is this problem fixed? Or is there a fix to this?
P.S. 113 apps (including default ones) installed
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You can't get around that, Market only shows INSTALLED if installed through Market. Doesn't mean you can't use the app. If you need to keep up with updates, use aTrackdog with AppManager.

Arg, lame! But thanks for your prompt replies (I'm about to root right now)...
I guess my last question is, once I root and can install Nandroid, or Backup for Root, will I have to install 1 by 1 ever again, to make Market recognize apps? Or do these root programs backup the phone to be EXACTLY as it was when backup was made?

4thephil said:
Arg, lame! But thanks for your prompt replies (I'm about to root right now)...
I guess my last question is, once I root and can install Nandroid, or Backup for Root, will I have to install 1 by 1 ever again, to make Market recognize apps? Or do these root programs backup the phone to be EXACTLY as it was when backup was made?
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Market won't recognize installed apps unless install by Market, PERIOD. Nandroid backs up exactly the state of the phone, while Backup for Root can do individual things like SMS, Shortcuts, Data of apps, etc.
Backup for Root does have a check mark for "Market db", but I've never found it to work.

So, the bottom line, is that most rooted users don't use the market to update apps? They use AppManager/aTrackdog, because every time they restore, it would uninstall apps and market wouldn't recognize?

Use My backup Pro to back up your apps. After you root install adb on your computer, go to the application and games section and look for a thread XDA app pack 1.4 to batch install your apps. Use aTrackDog to keep up w/ updates. The market will no longer show them when you install off market. It will show them again after you update your apps (not all just the ones you update).
EDIT: copy app file from SD card (MyBackupPro) into XDA app pack folder to batch install

Apaca1ypse said:
Use My backup Pro to back up your apps. After you root install adb on your computer, go to the application and games section and look for a thread XDA app pack 1.4 to batch install your apps. Use aTrackDog to keep up w/ updates. The market will no longer show them when you install off market. It will show them again after you update your apps (not all just the ones you update).
EDIT: copy app file from SD card (MyBackupPro) into XDA app pack folder to batch install
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would AppManager Pro do this same thing exactly (batch install)?

4thephil said:
would AppManager Pro do this same thing exactly (batch install)?
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Yes, but if you use adb you can back up and restore your private apps No app on the market can do that.

Titainiam backup

Im using Titainiam backup (free version), is there anyway to back up all apps/SMS/contacts/other data with just 1 click? From what I can find you have to select each 1 seperatly?
Sent from my HTC Desire HD, Powered by Android Revolution.

About...3 clicks. Menu -> Batch and from there select the one that fits your needs the best.

Quick question re Titanium Backup.... It says it needs "ROOT", does this mean it will not work with a non-rooted system??
I'm using the standard Orange, non-messed with Android (which I'm quite happy with), can I still use Titanium Backup?

you need root access...

L0gan said:
you need root access...
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Ok, so could anyone recommend a backup for apps/data (with the hopefully upcoming Gingerbread update in mind), that doesn't need root?

Riceburner said:
Ok, so could anyone recommend a backup for apps/data (with the hopefully upcoming Gingerbread update in mind), that doesn't need root?
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You can try Mybackup Pro

The problem with non-root backups is they can't backup everything.
If you don't want to root, then you will probably not be able to backup your apps+data.

Hello, sprite backup ( latest version compatible with Gingerbreak ) save and restore contacts,calendar ... even if you have an unrooted phone ( mine is unrooted and i've restored contacts successfully ) .

shaithis said:
The problem with non-root backups is they can't backup everything.
If you don't want to root, then you will probably not be able to backup your apps+data.
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Do you what they won't backup?
TBH, Data I'm not so worried about (everything is backed up to the google account online anyway), it's the apps that I've downloaded and paid for that I don't want to lose.

GoSMS Pro will do this for you. I mnow it is a whole seperate SMS app, but it is a guaranteed way for it to work, and doesn't take long. And you might find you like it for SMS anyway
Sent from my Desire HD

i have a problem here that its stuck in root require and nothing happening my phone is rooted and all the apps working well.

Hi Riceburner
Riceburner said:
Do you what they won't backup?
TBH, Data I'm not so worried about (everything is backed up to the google account online anyway), it's the apps that I've downloaded and paid for that I don't want to lose.
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You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
Take Care
TheQuest

Hi zizu66
zizu66 said:
i have a problem here that its stuck in root require and nothing happening my phone is rooted and all the apps working well.
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What is stuck in root?
When ever a App tries to gain Root Access for the first time Superuser will appear on your screen and Ask if you what to give the App Root Permission or not, and whether to remember the permissions that are given [the default is remember].
Take Care
TheQuest

I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Riceburner
You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
Take Care
TheQuest
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True.
ok, cheers.
Mind you - it's all academic anyway because I have no idea when (or even if) I'll be getting the update. Still seem to be stuck on 1.84.61.2 (as far as I can see). Orange aren't known for their speed on software upgrades.

I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Riceburner
You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
Take Care
TheQuest
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You sure about that? I am sure google only keeps a copy (id) of what you have downloaded, but not the data within the app. So for example you bought a game, google will know you have bought the game so you can download it, but the data on the game will be lost, i.e. high scores etc...
And also, what about data from apps that you have not use a store, i.e. you used an installer to install it, the data will be lost for that app.
MyBackup Pro is good, but it can't backup the data within the apps (unroot) and that is the problem because of google security.

yes i know that but the superuser app dont appear for me i dont know why?and its just for this app.all other apps appear for me and there is no problem.when i start the app its i get trying to gain root access and the superuser app dont appear???

so this is a no go then

Hi springy
springy said:
You sure about that? I am sure google only keeps a copy (id) of what you have downloaded, but not the data within the app. So for example you bought a game, google will know you have bought the game so you can download it, but the data on the game will be lost, i.e. high scores etc...
And also, what about data from apps that you have not use a store, i.e. you used an installer to install it, the data will be lost for that app.
MyBackup Pro is good, but it can't backup the data within the apps (unroot) and that is the problem because of google security.
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Yes I am sure of what I wrote, I did not say anything about data being stored.
I do not know about what MyBackUp can and can not do.
Titanium BackUp can back up all Apps and Data. [data can not be restore to a different Rom though]
Take Care
TheQuest

Hi zizu66
zizu66 said:
yes i know that but the superuser app dont appear for me i dont know why?and its just for this app.all other apps appear for me and there is no problem.when i start the app its i get trying to gain root access and the superuser app dont appear???
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Do you a CWM installed, if so you could try booting in to recovery, and use the fix permissions to see if it helps to clear the problem with SU.
Take Care
TheQuest

Hi jaggysnake
jaggysnake said:
so this is a no go then
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Are you talking to yourself?
Take Care
TheQuest

[Q] Migrating apps to a new ROM

When migrating to a different Android ROM, what is the easiest way to migrate over the apps? Would doing a data restore from the old rom work or maybe titanium? I would hate to have to do a list of all the apps and find them all over again...
Thanks!

titanium and / or astro will actually let you back up your apps (the apks). i use astro (tools > backup i believe - and is free. or if you used markets, etc. will work too of course.

sebasmiles said:
When migrating to a different Android ROM, what is the easiest way to migrate over the apps? Would doing a data restore from the old rom work or maybe titanium? I would hate to have to do a list of all the apps and find them all over again...
Thanks!
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I use Super Box (download it from market, its free)
First you have to back up all apps into SD card.
Then, everytime you change android,
Firstly reinstall Super Box, and then choose menu "Installer"
Then you can see all your apps (in the form of installer file .apk)
Just click what ever you want to install in the new android rom..
Cheers...

If you are on nand rom wipe data in cwm, install new rom then dovan advanced restore with data and if u used a sd-ext also restore the sd-ext.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App

jsmccabe78 said:
titanium and / or astro will actually let you back up your apps (the apks). i use astro (tools > backup i believe - and is free. or if you used markets, etc. will work too of course.
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Will the google apps market save the info of the apps I have? so that it just reloads all my apps into my next rom?

silverwind said:
I use Super Box (download it from market, its free)
First you have to back up all apps into SD card.
Then, everytime you change android,
Firstly reinstall Super Box, and then choose menu "Installer"
Then you can see all your apps (in the form of installer file .apk)
Just click what ever you want to install in the new android rom..
Cheers...
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Why do you have to individually re-install each apk? When I used WM and SPB Backup and did a restore, it restored all my apps back without doing an individual re-install. Isn't there an app (Backup/Restore) that will do that in Android?

sebasmiles said:
Will the google apps market save the info of the apps I have? so that it just reloads all my apps into my next rom?
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Yes but that only installs apps you have installed via market, It doesnt install apps that you side loaded and it doesnt restore the app data, only the apk file.
asctony said:
Why do you have to individually re-install each apk? When I used WM and SPB Backup and did a restore, it restored all my apps back without doing an individual re-install. Isn't there an app (Backup/Restore) that will do that in Android?
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Yes, what you need is Titanium Backup Pro, It is THE best backup solution on Android for apps/data.
You can do anything in batch (pro version).
Trust me when I say that this is what you need!

TheATHEiST said:
Yes but that only installs apps you have installed via market, It doesnt install apps that you side loaded and it doesnt restore the app data, only the apk file.
Yes, what you need is Titanium Backup Pro, It is THE best backup solution on Android for apps/data.
You can do anything in batch (pro version).
Trust me when I say that this is what you need!
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I have been using TB V3.8.8.1 and it requires a re-install of each apk. Still looking for a way to re-install/recover without the individual re-install.

asctony said:
I have been using TB V3.8.8.1 and it requires a re-install of each apk. Still looking for a way to re-install/recover without the individual re-install.
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Did you even bother to read what I said properly?
You need the "pro" version, then you can use the "batch" option in backup/restore. I use this all the time, I can restore ALL apps in 1 go, Absolutely no need to restore individually!!!!!
You can even create a update.zip and flash via recovery instead if you wish

TheATHEiST said:
Did you even bother to read what I said properly?
You need the "pro" version, then you can use the "batch" option in backup/restore. I use this all the time, I can restore ALL apps in 1 go, Absolutely no need to restore individually!!!!!
You can even create a update.zip and flash via recovery instead if you wish
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Yah! I read what you wrote. I just told you what I am using. It is a piece of dung. I am glad that you have such a good disposition. Maybe you should take some time off and try to learn how to communicate with others. You are much to blunt! If you can't hack it, move on. Tell me, what is the purpose of TB.

asctony said:
Yah! I read what you wrote. I just told you what I am using. It is a piece of dung. I am glad that you have such a good disposition. Maybe you should take some time off and try to learn how to communicate with others. You are much to blunt! If you can't hack it, move on. Tell me, what is the purpose of TB.
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What are you talking about?
You said....
asctony said:
I have been using TB V3.8.8.1 and it requires a re-install of each apk. Still looking for a way to re-install/recover without the individual re-install.
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Im going to tell you this one LAST time..
TB DOES support batch and DOESNT need to do it individually. If you are having to do them individually then you do NOT have the "Pro" version, You need to purchase (or get elsewhere) the Pro ticket to update your version before you get all the extra features.
Once you have the Pro version you can restore ALL your apps in one click without having to restore them individually.
Also why the fook are you trying to insult me for you ungrateful p.o.s, I'm here trying to help you!!
TB is the best program in its field, It has the most features and its the most advanced aslong as you have the Pro version, If you are looking for something more then you are simply out of luck so get over it and upgrade.
Also as I said before, TB also allows you to create a update.zip so you can also flash them via recovery and not via Android.
You understand now??

TheATHEiST said:
What are you talking about?
You said....
Im going to tell you this one LAST time..
TB DOES support batch and DOESNT need to do it individually. If you are having to do them individually then you do NOT have the "Pro" version, You need to purchase (or get elsewhere) the Pro ticket to update your version before you get all the extra features.
Once you have the Pro version you can restore ALL your apps in one click without having to restore them individually.
Also why the fook are you trying to insult me for you ungrateful p.o.s, I'm here trying to help you!!
TB is the best program in its field, It has the most features and its the most advanced aslong as you have the Pro version, If you are looking for something more then you are simply out of luck so get over it and upgrade.
Also as I said before, TB also allows you to create a update.zip so you can also flash them via recovery and not via Android.
You understand now??
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You just confirmed your 'knacker' attitude. You did not read my posting and understand what I said. So, move on dude. TB can't be the best if you must use the PRO version. The non-pro version implies that you can do a BATCH restore and it does not allow a Batch restore. I got over it before I posted.
BYE BYE!

Please ?

Hey guys ..
I have a question right here obviously ..
am asking ..
How 2 remove the God damn launcher pro .. The one that's pre installed on
Custom ROMs ..
Cause i can't install Any other version cause of it !
..
Thanks .

use titanium backup and uninstall
or use another launcher from the market

Titanium Backup .. ??
What the hell is that ?

Sira. said:
Titanium Backup .. ??
What the hell is that ?
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It's an app on Android Market, it's really easy to use

Set another launcher as your default one
Uninstall LP with System App Remover or Titanium Backup (instead of asking what the hell that was you could have just searched Google)
Reboot and you are done

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How can i install the default Gingerbread Launcher? please some one help as I realy dont like launcher pro Thanks

or delete it via root explorer and use other launcher for exaple active launcher

1-Download another launcher from market
2-after that from root explorer delete system/apps/launcher pro.apk
3-now paste the launcher u want in the system/apps
4-install it
and it will be ur default player again
(copy the same launchre file to your root folder too)

But then, the LP data still remains in /data/data, so just deletes LP´s data with Titanium Backup, and then unistall it.

Sira. said:
Hey guys ..
I have a question right here obviously ..
am asking ..
How 2 remove the God damn launcher pro .. The one that's pre installed on
Custom ROMs ..
Cause i can't install Any other version cause of it !
..
Thanks .
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use this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103404

[WORKAROUND] Can't defrost frozen apps with titanium backup on KL7

Took me some time to find a solution, a lot of googling,
eventually I found this magic post
And I thought it deserves a better spotlight.
1. Copy /data/system/packages.xml to your PC. (or edit it somehow...)
2. Edit it, find the line with your app name that looks something like :
Code:
<package name="com.sec.android.app.samsungapps" codePath="/data/app/com.sec.android.app.samsungapps-1.apk" nativeLibraryPath="/data/data/com.sec.android.app.samsungapps/lib" flags="1" ft="134880eb380" it="11b7e237e00" ut="134880eb753" version="26114" userId="10039" enabled="false">
3. This line freezes samsung apps, which I wanted to desfrost to make S-Choice work. Change the false, to true > Save.
4. Copy the file back to the phone.
5. Contact titanium backup author and report this bug.
Reboot, Enjoy.
PS - I did not find the solution myself, I am just making a solution found by olympicchicken More readable and searchable.

I too have been having the problem with not being able to unfreeze system apps. What worked for me is to uninstall the frozen app from within Titanium BU (be sure to have a backup before uninstalling). Then just reboot and was able to restore the app through Titanium BU.
Don't know if it made any difference but I had done the app backup in Titanium before I froze it in the first place.

Mdpearo said:
I too have been having the problem with not being able to unfreeze system apps. What worked for me is to uninstall the frozen app from within Titanium BU (be sure to have a backup before uninstalling). Then just reboot and was able to restore the app through Titanium BU.
Don't know if it made any difference but I had done the app backup in Titanium before I froze it in the first place.
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I didn't backup any of the system apps I froze before freezing, hence if I would have deleted them, I would have been deleting the only apk copy i had of them.

Could somebody please check their /data/system/packages.xml for the line referencing "com.sec.android.app.controlpanel" (Task Manager) and post this entire line for me?
I've stupidly uninstalled it and TB can't restore it from backup as the line is missing.
Cheers.

eitama said:
I didn't backup any of the system apps I froze before freezing, hence if I would have deleted them, I would have been deleting the only apk copy i had of them.
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Even if you have an app frozen you can still select backup. Then uninstall the app, reboot, and restore the app.

Mdpearo said:
Even if you have an app frozen you can still select backup. Then uninstall the app, reboot, and restore the app.
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That didn't work as TB just hangs when trying to restore. I don't have a nandroid backup so if someone can post that line then I can at least fix it manually.

A simpler way to locate the particular line is by searching for "false" will keep showing all the frozen apps ) much faster too

I can confirm the uninstall and restore method worked for me..
I had frozen all three samsung app services(app, account, una) and I wanted to unfreeze them because of the free Dead Space and Modern Combat offers and I couldn't unfreeze them..
So as they were already frozen I made a back up of them, uninstalled them, reboot and restore them.. Worked like a charm..
Thanks guys.

I also try to contact the TITANIUM BACKUP developer informing about this bug... but not update avaible for the moment!

The file-edit method did not work for me. However, the uninstall/restore did. You have to convert system apps to user apps to backup them first, but it's quick and easy.

Possible solution
Hi guys,
Check out this test version of TB and try the "power defrost" feature in Batch menu. Hopefully it will help
http://matrixrewriter.com/tmp/TitaniumBackup_4.7.4-test1_r237_Market.apk

joel.bourquard said:
Hi guys,
Check out this test version of TB and try the "power defrost" feature in Batch menu. Hopefully it will help
http://matrixrewriter.com/tmp/TitaniumBackup_4.7.4-test1_r237_Market.apk
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Works fine, thx.

joel.bourquard said:
Hi guys,
Check out this test version of TB and try the "power defrost" feature in Batch menu. Hopefully it will help
http://matrixrewriter.com/tmp/TitaniumBackup_4.7.4-test1_r237_Market.apk
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hey, i also having same prob that i cannot unfreeze apps through either link2sd or tb.
is it the link is death? can resend the link again? thx lot

rshui said:
hey, i also having same prob that i cannot unfreeze apps through either link2sd or tb.
is it the link is death? can resend the link again? thx lot
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Hi,
This link is not needed anymore. The official version has it now