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[Defy+] Downgraded To CM7 from CM9 & Battery Shows Question Mark

Last night I rooted my Defy+ with CM7(latest nightlies from defy-cm.net), applied battery and camera fix, everything worked perfectly and I enjoyed it.
I tried little experimenting then installed CM9(usedEpsylon builds) and flashed the kernel mentioned here(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100&page=3) but then I noticed it had lot of bugs and my phone started having a lot of weird reboots.
So I thought of reverting back to CM7 and then problem of the battery popped up. Battery now shows a question mark and I dont know whether it could charge or not. After reading a lot I thought it would be better to revert to CM9 just incase if the battery isn't charging and then I'd have to find a workaround for charging.
Although I love CM( very much but I can't stick to it because of the camera and a lot of instability.
After studying forums I realised it may be because of the incompatible kernel for CM7. So the only way I could get teh original kernel is by flashing the original SBF. But the problem arises is that I cant find the same build for my device and I am little skeptical about flashing with different SBF. Also I have no nandroid backup as such. Nearest I could find a SBF was with 4.5.1-134_DFP-1321. Also I have gone through all the Walter79 posts and his SBF collection too and it doesnt have the SBF for my DEFY+.
Can somebody guide me with the workaround?
My DEFY+ specifications:
system version - 45.0.891.MB526,AsiaRetail.en.03
model number - mb526
android version - 2.3.4
baseband version - epu93_u_00.60.00
kernel version - 2.6.32.9-gbdd614e [email protected]#1
build number - 4.5.1-134_DFP-891

Hi,
My Defy+ also came with the same SBF version however I updated it to another one and now service center updated it to another one(which is unrootable!!) So be careful while choosing the SBF(Don't worry I will tell you which one should be safe! ). First:
There are issues with battery charging with CM9. moreover you should have tried Quarx's build CM9 for Defy+. Both CM7 and CM9_Defy+ of quarx are more stable!! however, as per memory serves I remember flashing CM7 for Defy when I had the version of SBF you have, so I believe even CM9 for Defy should work(No need to flash extra kernels if you flash the Defy versions of CM).
Now coming to the SBF part you may go for this SBF(from my dropbox). It is 4.5.1-134_DFP-1321 version SBF. That will update your phone to 2.3.6 and BL6. Thus you won't be able to downgrade to any Froyo kernels and will have to use CM7 and CM9 for Defy+ builds(use Quarx's build this time). However NEVER flash the version with DFP-231!!! It has BL7 and is still not rootable!!! ( Thanks to dumb service center people I am stuck with this!!)

pranks1989 said:
Hi,
My Defy+ also came with the same SBF version however I updated it to another one and now service center updated it to another one(which is unrootable!!) So be careful while choosing the SBF(Don't worry I will tell you which one should be safe! ). First:
There are issues with battery charging with CM9. moreover you should have tried Quarx's build CM9 for Defy+. Both CM7 and CM9_Defy+ of quarx are more stable!! however, as per memory serves I remember flashing CM7 for Defy when I had the version of SBF you have, so I believe even CM9 for Defy should work(No need to flash extra kernels if you flash the Defy versions of CM).
Now coming to the SBF part you may go for this SBF(from my dropbox). It is 4.5.1-134_DFP-1321 version SBF. That will update your phone to 2.3.6 and BL6. Thus you won't be able to downgrade to any Froyo kernels and will have to use CM7 and CM9 for Defy+ builds(use Quarx's build this time). However NEVER flash the version with DFP-231!!! It has BL7 and is still not rootable!!! ( Thanks to dumb service center people I am stuck with this!!)
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Hey. Wait for sometime. I will update the link.

Please allow a short question concerning the downgrade:
I'm currently on CM10 on my Defy+ and want to go back to CM7.
Can I just use the recovery boot and install from a CM7 file or is anything else needed before flashing CM7 file?
Thanks a lot

[Q] Steps to upgrade defy from 2.2.2 to ICS

Hi,
I recently bought Defy MB525 mobile and it is under warranty till feb'13.
Below are current specs of my mobile-----
System version: Moto_version.34.3601.7.MB525.Retail.en.SEA15
Firmware version:2.2.2
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9-g0671d13
Build number: JEM3.4.3-36-1.7
Camera Hardware: SOC
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Please share the steps i should follow for 1) backup existing stock version 2.2.2, 2) overclock CPU, 3) upgrade to latest stable ICS version, 4)restore stock version 2.2.2.
Let me know if you need any other details.
Thanks

hi there
well to backup your stock rom first of all you need to root your phone with superoneclick google it.Then install latest 2nd init form here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212.after that reboot and when your phone blinks blue push vol down button to get into bootmenu.select custom recovery/backup all(to backup you rom)
3)either you download epsy/quarks ics build http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100 or aopk http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585425 and the ics gapps.then move those to sd card and enter bootmenu again select wipe data/cache and install zip from sd card:chose one of the 2 above and the gapps after finish reboot and VOILA ics

How is camera in ICSROM?

camera works fine but panorama fc

Thank you, have some questions again
Thank you very much for replying, i am half journey way to start updating to ICS
i have downloaded epsy CM9-NIGHTLY-120406-Defy.zip, is it right one? is there a stable version?
when to overlock the cpu after installing ICS or can be done before?

I'm not sure if there's a stable CM9 release for Defy.
when to overlock the cpu after installing ICS or can be done before?
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After the update..

I'm using 06.04 by Epsylon3 with Froyo kernel and green lens: I find it stable enough, good for day to day usage. There's no CM9 stable version, not even a RC one.
You can overclock the CPU from the bootmenu, although CM9 comes with 1GHz standard. Maybe undervolt it a bit.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9

Confused on updating android
I am bit confused updating android.. We are wiping the data and reloading a ICS right?? why do we need froyo kernel to update to ICS
Can you please share a link explaining it? reasons, procedures.

Rodefy said:
I am bit confused updating android.. We are wiping the data and reloading a ICS right?? why do we need froyo kernel to update to ICS
Can you please share a link explaining it? reasons, procedures.
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We need froyo kernel because we have SOC (green) camera ;-(
So we need to flash CM7 kernel too. If you use CM9 kernel, then your SOC camera will not work
Procedures in this thread in the first post
I also had to flash ICS Gapps zip (somehow ommited in the procedure)
You can use mentioned nightly - works fine
I would propose to use titanium backup from the market to backup all your apps with data - then you can simply restore them back with all data inside (but your apps - do not restore system apps)

[Q] want to restore my defy back to cyanogenmod

HI ... i did a terrible mistake on my defy ..... It was having some stability issues on cyanogenmod 9 and so I thought lets flash the stick froyo on it and redo everything .... but due to my carelessness by mistake i had flashed defy plus sbf on it .... the build is 4.5.1-134_DFP-1321 with android version 2.3.6 .. now I am having many problems like camera is not working, touch screen sensitivity is not good ...
things I tried ....
I refered to all in one defy beginners guide .... that has two methods to fix this kind of problem .. but both were not useful .the phone does not boot after flashing the provided sbf file .
I am able to install recovery on it and restore to nandroid back up but i think due to kernels mismatch the issues remain same ...
When from recovery i tried to install CM 7 and did flash its kernel too .... the phone will not boot ...
Please help I am not in a budget to buy a new phone and I love my defy very much ... Any help and guidance is truly appreciated.....Thanks

i had a problem not exactly like this, but had solved in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
it's a cm9 rom and is very smooth and stable.
since then it's working fine.

hey ... i tried this .. but still i am having camera and touchscreen problems .... IS there any sbf for defy with 2.3.6 version as only this can my current version on defy ...
thanks

gaushim said:
HI ... i did a terrible mistake on my defy ..... It was having some stability issues on cyanogenmod 9 and so I thought lets flash the stick froyo on it and redo everything .... but due to my carelessness by mistake i had flashed defy plus sbf on it .... the build is 4.5.1-134_DFP-1321 with android version 2.3.6 .. now I am having many problems like camera is not working, touch screen sensitivity is not good ...
things I tried ....
I refered to all in one defy beginners guide .... that has two methods to fix this kind of problem .. but both were not useful .the phone does not boot after flashing the provided sbf file .
I am able to install recovery on it and restore to nandroid back up but i think due to kernels mismatch the issues remain same ...
When from recovery i tried to install CM 7 and did flash its kernel too .... the phone will not boot ...
Please help I am not in a budget to buy a new phone and I love my defy very much ... Any help and guidance is truly appreciated.....Thanks
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You are on Bootloader version 6 now. You can only be saved by flashing a bl6 rom for the "defy" not defy+. Or any other rom for Defy which has bootloader version 6.
if you are able to enable android debugging and root + install 2ndinit (considering your touch screen works a little bit to your command ) you can directly flash CM9 rom.
Root first, 2ndinit, then install CWM and flash froyo kernal after flashing the CM9 or CMX zip. (According to my little knowledge, Epsylon's build comes with froyo kernel already)
Considering your touchscreen is totally abrupt and non-responsive and you are unable to root using it. You can flash bl6 froyo rom for your green lense defy.
Follow this thread for downgrading the build version + kernel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731
DO NOT USE THE FROYO ROM IN THE THREAD AS REGULAR. (DON'T USE THE CAMERA WHEN USING THE ROM IN THE THREAD OR YOU MIGHT GET YOUR CAMERA LED PERMANENTLY BURNT). JUST USE IT TO ROOT + 2NDINIT + CM9
gaushim said:
hey ... i tried this .. but still i am having camera and touchscreen problems .... IS there any sbf for defy with 2.3.6 version as only this can my current version on defy ...
thanks
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Its not the android version. Its Bootloader version that prevents you from downgrading.

[Q] Moto Defy updated to official 2.3.6 ROM and my Defy is Defy+

I'm new to this forum but have got solutions for many of my questions from here. I own a Motorola defy MB525 (SOC Camera), tried to fiddle around with it in order to install custom ROM's and eventually screwed up in the process .After my failed attempts, was able to somehow get a working Indian Motorola Froyo SBF and fix my phone, which was otherwise not booting, that was a small victory . In the meanwhile, had been to Motorola Service Center to replace my broken glass. Got that replaced, however I wondered if the service center could somehow update it with official Defy+ ROM and that's when I screwed up completely.
They updated it with official 2.3.6 Defy+ ROM and now my Camera module is dead , battery lasts hardly for 5-6 hrs on stand by :crying: , which would otherwise last for 2 days on foryo and my phone model shows MB526. I wouldn't worry about the camera right now, but I want my battery last for a day atleast
Is there a way I can go back to my original froyo ROM which I doubt would be possible
Can someone help me on this ? any patch that I could update for battery issues? anything at all !
Thanks in advance.

Have you tried flashing the original SBF with RSD Lite?
RSD Lite is an App used by Motorola to Flash Smartphones. It can revive mismatched Nandroid/Fixed SBFs, Black Screens, failed flashes etc.
Even though is really, really hard to completely brick a Defy, it is possible; a corrupted SBF, power failure on a critical part of the formatting, or some weird issues while creating partitions can lead to a Bricked Defy. If you can, always flash your Defy from a laptop so the power is not an issue, use good cables, and be sure the PC doesn’t go to sleep when is not being used.
Also, when flashing SBFs, is normally advised to put your SBF in your PC Root directory (C:/ ) or whatever it is in your PC and rename it to a short name like Defy.sbf, why? Because sometimes the Path name is just too long and RSD Lite throws errors not allowing the phone to be Flashed.
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snandakishore said:
Can someone help me on this ? any patch that I could update for battery issues? anything at all !
Thanks in advance.
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Dont worry....you will get back everything...but first i guess you will have to downgrade your defy....
may be this link would help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1825064
Hope it works for you....flash only the correct sbf (Froyo one) and everything will be fine....

itsnotmeatall said:
Have you tried flashing the original SBF with RSD Lite?
Refer to this thread for details.
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Yes, I have tried the same Froyo SBF that I tried to flash before using RSD Lite, but it didn't succeed this time. Later I tried many Defy+ ROM's aswell, nothing worked ... put a lot of effort to do all that and got fed up. Went back to the service center and they re-flashed it with their Defy+ ROM using RSD Netconnect which is something they use to flash the ROM's. May be this works a bit differently. It worked this time... now I'm stuck with this ROM, which drains my battery like anything and rendered my camera dead.
Well...thanks anywazz will try the steps suggested by the other mate...

Ok Simple Steps to Recover & Get ur camera working
snandakishore said:
Yes, I have tried the same Froyo SBF that I tried to flash before using RSD Lite, but it didn't succeed this time. Later I tried many Defy+ ROM's aswell, nothing worked ... put a lot of effort to do all that and got fed up. Went back to the service center and they re-flashed it with their Defy+ ROM using RSD Netconnect which is something they use to flash the ROM's. May be this works a bit differently. It worked this time... now I'm stuck with this ROM, which drains my battery like anything and rendered my camera dead.
Well...thanks anywazz will try the steps suggested by the other mate...
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Dude I went from the steps in which u are currently stuck.
My defy 525 was not booting hence i went to authorized service center, Vashi, Navi Mumbai & Engineer over there has flashed defy plus rom on my mb 525. My camera was dead for 2 months. Now you are on BL7. Talk enough here are the steps...
Step 1:- Root your Defy, link is as below for BL7 ROOTING..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1595013
Step 2 :- Flash any 2nd Boot Defy Custom Rom ( Quarks (cm10) / Epsys (cm 9 & cm7 ) / Kayants( cm10)
By the way I use Epsy 2nd boot for CM7**( ONLY WIFI IS NOT WORKING OTHERWISE ITS STABLE ROM )
WWW.DEFY-CM.NET
Use 26112012 rom
Thats the only way to your defy to use with camera. ** Camera will work only on 2nd boot rom
In case additional help is required then let me know..
Happy to Help...
Avi Tandel, Navi Mumbai, India.

Didn't work for me
avi_tandel said:
Dude I went from the steps in which u are currently stuck.
My defy 525 was not booting hence i went to authorized service center, Vashi, Navi Mumbai & Engineer over there has flashed defy plus rom on my mb 525. My camera was dead for 2 months. Now you are on BL7. Talk enough here are the steps...
Step 1:- Root your Defy, link is as below for BL7 ROOTING..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1595013
Step 2 :- Flash any 2nd Boot Defy Custom Rom ( Quarks (cm10) / Epsys (cm 9 & cm7 ) / Kayants( cm10)
By the way I use Epsy 2nd boot for CM7**( ONLY WIFI IS NOT WORKING OTHERWISE ITS STABLE ROM )
WWW.DEFY-CM.NET
Use 26112012 rom
Thats the only way to your defy to use with camera. ** Camera will work only on 2nd boot rom
In case additional help is required then let me know..
Happy to Help...
Avi Tandel, Navi Mumbai, India.
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Bro, Thanks a lot I see a ray of hope again
...I was able to root my device, somehow I was unable to flash the first file mentioned on link you gave but was able to flash the second one,still I could see that the device was rooted inspite of that.
Now, please help me with detailed instructions on how to go about flashing the new ROM with some youtube Video references will also help. Also what about the battery life ? have you been able to get a decent battery life after flashing the new ROM ? and will I be able to flash ROM's meant for MB525 or should I choose only ones meant for MB526 ? If so, then will it still drain my battery bcoz it will contain a GB kernel ? Will my device ever be same again?
Also, you have mentioned that ur wifi isn't working on the ROM that you are running, is it specific to that ROM ?
Plz dnt mind, I have asked too many questions.. I'm not well versed with all this....still learning from my mistakes.

Solved !
snandakishore said:
Bro, Thanks a lot I see a ray of hope again
...I was able to root my device, somehow I was unable to flash the first file mentioned on link you gave but was able to flash the second one,still I could see that the device was rooted inspite of that.
Now, please help me with detailed instructions on how to go about flashing the new ROM with some youtube Video references will also help. Also what about the battery life ? have you been able to get a decent battery life after flashing the new ROM ? and will I be able to flash ROM's meant for MB525 or should I choose only ones meant for MB526 ? If so, then will it still drain my battery bcoz it will contain a GB kernel ? Will my device ever be same again?
Also, you have mentioned that ur wifi isn't working on the ROM that you are running, is it specific to that ROM ?
Plz dnt mind, I have asked too many questions.. I'm not well versed with all this....still learning from my mistakes.
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This thread can be closed.. I was able to successfully port to CM10 2nd boot Quarx ROM.
Thanks a lot for all the support !! long live XDA

[Q] Please check my approach - Flashing right from UK stock Defy to Quarx CM10 4.1.2

Hi All,
I've done literally weeks of research on this, so hopefully I've not missed any easy posts, but I want to check my approach and ask a final question. This is my daily phone, and while I know the risks and issues with custom roms, I want to get it right. Hope someone can advise.
ROM I want to install is Quarx's JB 4.1.2 CM10.
Phone I have is UK Motorola Defy (Red Lens, original):
System version: Blur_Version_2.21.0.MB525.Retail.en.GB
Model Number: MB525
Firmware version: 2.1-update1
Baseband version: EPU93ST2_U_03.02.00
Kernel version: 2.6.29 [email protected] #1
My plan is:
1. Official upgrade to Froyo - it seems this is not yet done on mine, and custom ROMs require its Kernel, I read
2. Root phone - SuperOneClick
3. Titanium Backup - Needs Root
4. ClockWorkMod Recovery - Needs Root, and gives me Nandroid Backup capability in BootLoader
5. Nandroid Backup - this should provide me a route back to stock (* see question below)
6. Flash ROM - this will give me CM10 based on Jelly Bean 4.2.1
Question is, despite reading many threads, I'm still confused on CG versions and SMG file versions (CG##.smg). I do want to be able to flash back to stock after this, in case I want to sell the phone - if I flash up to Quarx's CM10 JB 4.1.2, what CG version is it and is it higher than I can possibly get back to stock from? Or can I find a Fixed SBF of a Stock ROM that will let me go back? How can I best prepare for this?
Anything else to be aware of or concerned about?
Thanks very much.
Steve.

The easiest approach is to directly flash cm10 first and check off it works(you can flash back your stock sbf if there's any problem) because CM10 WILL NOT INCREASE YOUR CG VERSION
The potential problem you can face(which can not stop you from stock sbf flash) is an incompatibility of 2ndboot with your stock kernel.
If you run into that problem (which I think should not occur) you will have to flash a compatible sbf, with higher cg version and a compatible stock kernel.
Sent from my MB526 using xda premium

Thanks - good to know CM10 has no CG version. I expected the developers to want to get rid of that kind of limitation as soon as they could!
Hmmm, so could someone confirm, that Quarx's CM10 will flash directly over the stock 2.1 Eclair ROM as listed above (with root/CWM), and doesn't need Froyo deployed as a base? That would really help if so - then I have no further considerations and I can just get on with it. I'll take it carefully and I'd rather not be faced with non-booting etc the first time round.
I believe wifi tethering doesn't work on it, though, or there's some problem with restarting regarding wifi tether. That's a shame, but maybe an app like Barnacle or OpenGarden can work instead...?

You could try it yourself by taking a Nandroid backup and if you face the non booting problem then flash stock sbf+ restore. Beware that sometimes first boot hangs or bootloops and in such cases you can fix the problem with a battery pull, or data wipe respectively
Open garden works without issues
Hit thanks!