[Q] No Clk4 nor Vsel4 in "CPU settings" in Bootmenu after installing Whiterabbit
I installed Whiterabbit 1.4.1 in my Defy+ and now on the bootmenu->"CPU settings" I don't have the option to configure Clk4 and Vsel4. I only have till Clk3.
I disabled CPU settings in bootmenu and went for the app setVsel and it shows Clk4, but still doesnt show up in the Bootmenu.
How can I have Clk4 in my CPU Settings in the bootmenu back?
Thanks
It's because WhiteRabbit use Froyo kernel. Vsel4 it's only available for GB kernel.
I may be wrong but.. when I go to "settings"->"About phone", it says:
"Android version 2.3.7"
My understanding was that it's Gingerbread because it's 2.3.x
Froyo is 2.2.x
well don't get confused Android version with kernel version. If you see in white rabbit thread there are different files for defy and defy +.
The one for defy use froyo kernel and the one with defy + uses ginger bread kernel and both run Android 2.3.7 at the top. if you have defy red lens you can install defy+ versions aswell. Only green lens defy users can't use gb kernel versions because of camera problems. I haveregular red lens defy and always use defy + builds. GB kernel known to have better battery life to froyo kernel.
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Then, I may have Gingerbread, cause I installed "Whiterabbit Plus Edition".
Now I wonder if I made a mistake when installing and I used the zip from the non Plus version.
Is there a place where I can find if I have Froyo or Gingerbread?
Edit: On "SETTINGS->ABOUT PHONE" I have: Mod version: CyanogenMod-72-120127.0846-NIGHTLY-Defy+
You must see in Settings -> About Phone -> Kernel version.
The problem is that I don't know what kernel version is Froyo or GB.
I read the WhiteRabbit's thread and it's Froyo Kernel. So, you can't have vsel4.
WhiteRabbit Plus is only for Defy+ battery, but still be the same kernel as non plus...
DOWNLOAD WhiteRabbit Plus Edition v.1.4.1
nur für Defy+ 2.3.6 und höher User / MD5 = 0a593496e5dc280eef4f2dce27617ff2
Only a small Update with 2 new languages in Aroma and 3 BatteryFix that are copied on your SD Card if you use a Defy+.
But you don't need to download it, because the fixes can also be downloaded here in this topic. Just try which fits you best.
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I have the same problem.
I use SetVsel instead of bootmenu to overckock my defy+, because it can manage clk4 and vsel4 values.
Is it safely?
My ROM is euroskank cm7 kang for defy+
I have one question.
Why use the froyo kernel at all?
Upgrading ALL defy/defy+s to the latest (rootable, 1321 or 139 preferred for simpler root) 2.3.6 GB kernel would simplify rom/kernel development for the devs. Since more and more defy+s are in use they can simply drop development for the froyo kernels and focus on the GB kernel, since now all defys, whether the old one or + would be running 2.3.6. Any current devs (if they want to retain current status) would just have to switch to GB kernel support for their rom once and keep it that way.
Because the SOC module (green lens) is compatible only with the Froyo kernel.
Upgrading to the Gingerbread kernel means that the camera will be unusable for those Defys.
Forgot to add: Having a locked bootloader sucks.
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So all defys are not equally upgradable to GB (kernel)?
What kinda BS policies are these from Moto? Locked BL they have their reasoning about not wanting users to hard-brick the phones, but what reason to not allow officially updating to GB for ALL defys?
Unfortunately, no, not all Defys can be upgraded to the Gingerbread kernel and still be fully functional (exception being the Greenbread mod). And the devs can't do anything about it because of the locked bootloader.
Regarding Motorola and it's policies - it's all about the money. Outdated phone -> unhappy people -> they buy a new, updated phone -> happy Motorola.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9
Using Froyo makes sense for those, who want to keep the warranty and have to stick to the highest officialy available version. I had to update because CM roms work only with Froyo upwards.
vap_66 said:
Outdated phone -> unhappy people -> they buy a new, updated phone -> happy Motorola.
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They buy a new, updated phone from someone else. By keeping the Defy stuck on Froyo they've made a lot of people decide never to buy any product from Motorola again.
that is true. the bl lock stops us from changing kernel.
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This means that there is Froyo source, but not the driver source for the green lens ?
At this moment, if I want to improve my Defy (green lens, original Froyo 2.2.2), what firmware is the best?
It should support everything (3G, 2G, HSDPA, WI-FI, camera for both photos and video recordings, GPS, sensors and so on).
I'm a newbie and for me it's a bit confusing to see a mod called, e.g., "[ICS] CM9 Android 4.0.4 for the Defy (Froyo kernel)" (there are others, this is only the first I've found... )
ICS is ICS, Froyo is Froyo.
What I gain and what I loose with an ICS "Froyo Kernel"?
Is it ICS or Froyo painted with ICS dust ?
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Because the SOC module (green lens) is compatible only with the Froyo kernel.
Upgrading to the Gingerbread kernel means that the camera will be unusable for those Defys.
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Well, I've just upgraded to WIUI 2.4.20 (GB) and now I've GingerBread (2.3.7) full working.
My Defy has a green lens and the camera is working, both for photos and videos.
Have I missed something about the thread?
Are you sure WIUI changed your kernel? ROMs and kernels can play mix'n'match.
Motorola has locked the bootloaders of defy
Thus we can only use motorola signed kernels.
Defy has a froyo kernel and defy plus has GB kernel. Both signed by motorola.
Only these to can be used in custom roms. Even in ics and even in jelly bean (Android 5.0) we will have to use these kernels as long as motorola doesnt unlock the bootloader. Froyo build of ics means ics that runs with froyo kernel. GB kernel works only with red lense cameras of defy and all defy+. So only froyo build will work for green lens defy.
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This was exactly why i was confused. Do you mean the green lens Defy cannot be officially upgraded (either OTA or RSDLITE) to GB ? And the red lens Defy can be upgraded to GB?
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Are you sure WIUI changed your kernel? ROMs and kernels can play mix'n'match.
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Maybe you're right...
Android Version 2.3.7
Kernel Version 2.6.32.9-gb08c3c8
But the 2.3.7 version is GingerBread, whilst the 2.6.32 kernel version is Froyo.
So what's the point ?
The mods are always Froyo but with GB features ?
Defy with green lens can be upgraded to gb kernel but many features inculding cam may not work.
The gb kernel was extracted from defy+. As defy+ has only red lens the gb kernels works with defy red lens also.
Fully functional green lens gb kernel will be possible only when defy gets an official gb update (highly unlikely) or when the defy bootloader is unlocked(higly unlikely too).
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defy green lens with gb kernel may end up in a bootloop.
so thread with caution.
Flashing an GB sbf will prevent you from coming back to Froyo(Downgrading).
Always try to flash using CWM to keep downgrading options alive
Are there no "fixed" GB SBFs to keep downgrade options alive?
No defy owner should upgrade to gingerbread kernel by flashing an sbf. Our bootloader can load the gingerbread kernel, the gingerbread bootloader can't load the froyo kernel.
So when you flash the sbf you can ONLY use gingerbread kernel based ROMs from then. Otherwise you can just flash the kernel you want from the recovery.
It would even be wise for defy+ owner with bl5 and 6 to flash the bl6 froyo ROM so that they can use both builds by just flashing the right kernel.
About official gingerbread: they are for the defy+. Officially the defy has no gingerbread ROM. For some countries the defy even stays on eclair. Although it would have cost Motorola 5 min to replace the camera and battery drivers. Only problem is money for Motorola and the operators.
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I own a Defy red lens presently on cm7.2 rc3. Base sbf is froyo.
I heard a lot about defy+ being more energy efficient because of its Gingerbread.
Now for my doubt- cm7.2 rc3 is based on GB kernel.
1. Does that mean that installing cm7.2 rc3 over froyo is as good as installing Gingerbread sbf & then installing cm7 for defy+.
2. What if I want to install defy builds later instead of defy+? Flash cm7 kernel I suppose.
3. In essence, is installing cm7/cm9 kernel as good as flashing froyo/ GB?
Hello Guys,
I am a Red Lense defy user... I am currently running with Epsy's 17th June CM9 Nightly with CM7 Kernal.
I am now planning to flash with Defy+ rom woth CM9 kernal of 6th July.
Is it really advisable to have GB kernal for Red lense DEfy? What are the advantages of having GB kernal over Froyo.
Also whose ROM are better Epsy's or Quarx? Or rather want to know the diffrence between them
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Sameer
about cm9 roms, Quarx's and epsy's rom are no different from each other.
Quarx have a defy+, so his defy+ builds are more stable... and Epsylon have a defy, so his defy builds are more stable.
well, this theory is based on my perception, but personally i use epsy's defy 11.07 build, it is stable, smooth(mostly),battery friendly and fully hardware accelerated.
but the choice is your's..
and about defy+ kernel, you have to flash one if you wish to run defy+ build on red lens defy.Otherwise, it won't work
OK i will try Epsy's 11th Jul ROM.... I will just need to wipe Cache and Dalvik right? No need to wipe Data.
I was having some freeze and then soft reboot issues with the ROM is am currently having.
Yes, you are good to go...
Are there any advantages of having GB kernal over Froyo kernal in Red Lense Defy?.
i have motorola defy and i am using defy plus battery with wiui gb rom on motorola defy . can i flash that walter defy plus battery patch to sort out battery % stay at 83%
I think that patch would only work on walter's rom.
Defy plus battery in defy with 4+ roms
Hey,
I know people have used defy plus battery in defy, but they had the issue of 87% charging for which walter had released a patch. My battery is showing signs of aging (it charges from 1% to 100% in 20mins and is swollen a bit) So I was thinking of going for defy plus battery. So wanted to ask if I can use it without any issues on the newer roms? (4.3 - 4.4)
Thanks
Yes, it works with all roms from 4.1 to kitkat. No patches are required
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