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Here we go haha.. IF you're going to leave Sprint, where are you going?

Being that Verizon and AT&T are doing crazy ish too now ( via engadget ) Where are you guys going to go? Which company, plan etc? And is there any 100% concrete information on what is going to happen to us? Theres a bizillion threads on what "is" going to happen, but we dont know if any of that is ture.
Here is what the low down is now for Verizon and AT&T now... ( http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/atandt-tweaking-messaging-plans-killing-some-upgrade-discounts-r/ )

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Being that Verizon and AT&T are doing crazy ish too now ( via engadget ) Where are you guys going to go? Which company, plan etc? And is there any 100% concrete information on what is going to happen to us? Theres a bizillion threads on what "is" going to happen, but we dont know if any of that is ture.
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I will be starting my own cell phone company. Towers are in the process of being built as we speak!
Maybe you should include in the OP what all the srazy chit we have to look forward to in the future.

Ill use one of those big funky satellite phones that osama bin ladin uses.

jhoffy22 said:
I will be starting my own cell phone company. Towers are in the process of being built as we speak!
Maybe you should include in the OP what all the srazy chit we have to look forward to in the future.
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In the OP I linked the verizon/at&t ish
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Ill use one of those big funky satellite phones that osama bin ladin uses.
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lolwut haha

mroneeyedboh said:
Being that Verizon and AT&T are doing crazy ish too now ( via engadget ) Where are you guys going to go? Which company, plan etc? And is there any 100% concrete information on what is going to happen to us? Theres a bizillion threads on what "is" going to happen, but we dont know if any of that is ture.
Here is what the low down is now for Verizon and AT&T now... ( http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/atandt-tweaking-messaging-plans-killing-some-upgrade-discounts-r/ )
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Hm well what are my options:
Big Red: The iPhone (metaphor for popular, expensive and useless) of the mobile service provider industry is actually getting an iPhone (the popular, expensive and useless phone from wence the metaphor came). They're still big, popular, expensive and useless. Can't go there, next...
AT&T: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, omg *wipes tears from eyes*, haha yea right...next.
T-Mobile: Is the down syndrome-stricken child of the service provider world. They have okay phones, okay service but I haven't talked to a customer service rep yet who wasn't on their 2nd day of English-As-A-Second-Language classes yet and they have no resiliancy. I told one of them that they aren't American so they have no soul. She broke down and cried on the phone. For real, I was just angry, angry at their terrible, scripted, idiot customer service.
If I had to go anywhere it'd be back to T-Mobile, at least they have an unlimited text AND unlimited data plan that doesn't throttle you after 1 or 2GB of usage. I just need to make sure that I NEVER need customer service again. Prepare for your call to be routed to India.

The only way we are going to bring the ball back into the consumers court is we all stop signing contracts.

AT&T is going to be changing their texting plans effective Jan. 23rd. They are getting rid of $5 200 txt plan and $15 1500 txt plan. The only plans they are going to have is $10 1000 txt and $20 unlimited. It seems like all carriers are making changes at the same time.
I got rid of AT&T and won't be going back. I'll stick with Sprint.
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nebenezer said:
The only way we are going to bring the ball back into the consumers court is we all stop signing contracts.
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Then we will be paying full price for our phones..... Evo is an expensive phone.

I really want to drop the carriers and ise VOIP or something else. I'm on wifi nearly everywhere I go. Do I really give a crap if I don't get a text while driving? Not really. We'll see, though. If I can make it work, I'm done letting these bastards rob me. I usually pay full price for my phones anyway.

Oo yeah I forgot to mention that AT&T is going to discontinue activation of customer owned equipment at no contract. You won't be able to activate a phone that you own with no contract. They are basically going to force people to be on contracts.
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I'm probably jumping to Verizon so my wife can get an Iphone later in the year. We have three lines and one doesn't use data so that will make things actually cheaper for us because my wife has a discount through Verizon (I currently have one on SPrint)
The other thing that interests me is the Unlimited Data only plans through Tmobile. They are only 50 dollars a month and I'm wondering how good calls through Google Voice would be...if the quality isn't that bad I could just use that (since they now let you port your number to them)

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I'm probably jumping to Verizon so my wife can get an Iphone later in the year. We have three lines and one doesn't use data so that will make things actually cheaper for us because my wife has a discount through Verizon (I currently have one on SPrint)
The other thing that interests me is the Unlimited Data only plans through Tmobile. They are only 50 dollars a month and I'm wondering how good calls through Google Voice would be...if the quality isn't that bad I could just use that (since they now let you port your number to them)
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Oh **** yeah very good idea.. using tmobiles VOIP... Interesting.
I luckily get a 25 or 27% discount thru sprint. I cannot remember which one it is. Gotta love job discounts.

I have been with Sprint for 10 years. I am ready to purchase a 4G device. It is between the Evo4g on Sprint & the myPhone 4G with T-Mobile. Based on the device, and reception/coverage area will dictate which carrier I go to. The price point is basically the same. About $10 per month more with Sprint.
T-Mobile is an unknown regarding coverage and Sprint is a known.
I had 2 lines on a Free & Clear, but to switch to a 4g, I would lose that plan, and I would have to drop the 2nd line as no plan available by Sprint for 2 lines is cost effective for me. Neither is one available from T-mobile.
After 10 years, I really have no allegiance to Sprint as Allegiance with any Company these days is non existent, for me anyway, and from them to me, and others for that fact.
BUT I have read that T-Mobile may be locking their devices regarding tethering, as they are charging $!4.99/mo as of now, and may lock the devices for free tethering. I don't tether often, but I would like the option to do so.
Sprint charges the $10 surcharge for the privilege.

Doesnt really matter to me, only thing im waiting to see is if Verizon is going to put a data cap on their LTE for their smartphones. If they dont im ghost.

Why brah? Sprint doesnt... Or are you chasing the new phones merely.

I'd assume this is because LTE is faster and from what I gather has a more promising future.. probably coverage expansion will be better, etc.
Wouldn't count on avoiding a cap though, and F if i'm going to pay what vzw wants for "unlimited" as compared to sprint.
Where I work and spend a huge chunk of my life these days, I get full 4G and use it to tether all my computers, more than fast enough for what I need, and I think staying with this contract will be smart over time. As long as all these companies continue their greedy practices, the value of the plan I'm on will continue to get better IMO.
When I'm month to month in a year and a half paying what I'm paying now for unlimited, I bet I won't want to switch. I'm not that concerned about getting a new phone.. I tend to hold onto my phones for a pretty long time anyway. With the dev support the EVO has (and considering it does everything I want & more anyway) I think I can get a lot of mileage out of my current situation. If I really decide I NEED a new phone somewhere down the line, I'll buy it outright and stick with what will be a cheap plan at that point
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Doesnt really matter to me, only thing im waiting to see is if Verizon is going to put a data cap on their LTE for their smartphones. If they dont im ghost.
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Tuffgong4 said:
I'm probably jumping to Verizon so my wife can get an Iphone later in the year. We have three lines and one doesn't use data so that will make things actually cheaper for us because my wife has a discount through Verizon (I currently have one on SPrint)
The other thing that interests me is the Unlimited Data only plans through Tmobile. They are only 50 dollars a month and I'm wondering how good calls through Google Voice would be...if the quality isn't that bad I could just use that (since they now let you port your number to them)
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Google Voice doesn't do VOIP on phones. Right now all it does is re routes your calls through to your GV number. There are solutions that use third party VOIP services but they aren't super reliable.
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GV only supports CONUS

Guys i hate to say but I think these companies have us by the balls... I would think there has to be some kind of regulation implemented.

mroneeyedboh said:
Guys i hate to say but I think these companies have us by the balls... I would think there has to be some kind of regulation implemented.
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It's just a matter of more people using the network costs go up
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[Q] So who is activating their Xooms with Verizon?

So out of all of the people who have ordered their zooms through Motorola who are going to activate them with Verizon? I am considering activating with Verizon but not sure if it'll cost more since I bought from Motorola direct.

Since I wanted a WiFi only XOOM to begin with, I'll be using my $600 OCNN XOOM with the 3G radio always off.

slowrey said:
So out of all of the people who have ordered their zooms through Motorola who are going to activate them with Verizon? I am considering activating with Verizon but not sure if it'll cost more since I bought from Motorola direct.
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I may try Verizon after 4G upgrade. Tethering to my 3G phone right now produces the same result without the extra cost.

I just activated it yesterday.........after hours of trying and looking around I couldn't understand why my device wouldn't just activate when I pressed Activate Device, it kept saying activation failed. So after going to the Verizon Store the him self didn't know how to properly activate it either, he was trying the same things I was. He took too long so I just took it home. After some more search I tried to activate it through the Verizon online phone service activation. Even though it said cell phone activation, the activation worked and I had my credit approved, that it self took a whole day. And finally got my Verizon 3g on my xoom. All in all it took me 3 days to get 3G on my phone, while on the other had when I had the iPad on At&t it took me 10 minutes to activate the device and At&t service on it, no credit approval, just had to create an account and enter my credit card #, I could cancel whenever I wanted, then come back later and just enter my username and password to activate another month, all on the tablet. Why Verizon couldn't couldn't be this easy......I don't know! But I feel that its totally worth it for my xoom. ;

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I just activated it yesterday.........after hours of trying and looking around I couldn't understand why my device wouldn't just activate when I pressed Activate Device, it kept saying activation failed. So after going to the Verizon Store the him self didn't know how to properly activate it either, he was trying the same things I was. He took too long so I just took it home. After some more search I tried to activate it through the Verizon online phone service activation. Even though it said cell phone activation, the activation worked and I had my credit approved, that it self took a whole day. And finally got my Verizon 3g on my xoom. All in all it took me 3 days to get 3G on my phone, while on the other had when I had the iPad on At&t it took me 10 minutes to activate the device and At&t service on it, no credit approval, just had to create an account and enter my credit card #, I could cancel whenever I wanted, then come back later and just enter my username and password to activate another month, all on the tablet. Why Verizon couldn't couldn't be this easy......I don't know! But I feel that its totally worth it for my xoom. ;
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Not sure why yours had so much trouble, I activated mine right out of the box in just a minute or two. But glad you got it working!

Yes, I did.
I thought about WiFi only but I didn't want the hassle of tethering or connection to my Vibrant when I was out of WiFi range.
I talked myself into it that I would have dual coverage (Verizon and T-Mobile) for when I was on the road.
And justified the cost by going through all the micro payment I make for other incrimental web stuff and cancelling a couple.
That said I leave 3G off, it really will be for only when I am on the road out of wiFi range.

I activated mine because a 20 month is a pittance.

Do you have to sign up for a contract for the $20/month plan? How much was activation? What's the best way of signing up over the web, at a store or through the device?

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I activated mine because a 20 month is a pittance.
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And 2Gb for $20 is a pittance... as in that is waaaay too little data for $20. A couple of hours of Pandora streaming, youtubing, etc. and you'll be way over the 2Gb mark...

Do you guys think that the 4g LTE would be fast enough to replace my home DSL line? And I could use the xoom as a wireless hotspot?
Thanks a lot.

4g will def be as fast as dsl
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Too bad it will be tiered and might end up costing you a lot more than what you currently pay now for DSL. Unless you're a very light user.

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Do you guys think that the 4g LTE would be fast enough to replace my home DSL line? And I could use the xoom as a wireless hotspot?
Thanks a lot.
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i had t-mobile when they were transitioning their 3g network to higher speeds. from earlier experience, 1-1.5/0.6-0.8 mbps download/upload was kind of sluggish for my needs when you consider playing 1-2 videos and browsing flash heavy website. now that 3g service has improved in my area, i'm getting like 5.45/1.77 mbps download/upload and it feels more comfortable. i even done some online gaming and it works fine. So if Verizon LTE speeds are better than that, then you'll probably wont notice a difference. but watch out if you get close to maximum data allowance.

Using mine with my Atrix. Don't intend on switching on the cellular unless I'm in a dead spot and it's an emergency.
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I don't intend to use Verizon as their prices are too high compared to my regional carrier. Now that the xoom is unlocked/rooted, is it possible to flash a new PRL to it so that we can use another CDMA carrier with it? Do tablets utilize MEID/MDN etc...?
I intend to purchase the 800 dollar xoom only if I am able to use it with my regional carrier (rooted/unlocked). If this is not possible I will wait for the wifi and settle with tethering to my evo

I think the data prices for tablets and other non-phones will go down once Verizon figures out people aren't going to pay them. If they want to dramatically lower the price and use a tiered data approach that's fine with me as long as the data amounts are realistic.

Yes I think I will get the data plan.

If you cant afford $20 for a data plan you shouldn't be buying a $800 toy.

jumpinj said:
Using mine with my Atrix. Don't intend on switching on the cellular unless I'm in a dead spot and it's an emergency.
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Heads up. You have to go into version to activate your device. Or maybe online. But it can't be activated thru verizon from the device like the I pad can.

Quick question about Verizon plans.
This may sound like I'm making this up however I won a Xoom from a local radio station, I get to pick it up tomorrow. But here's my question we are buying a house and were told NOT to have our credit pulled.
After looking around Verizon's website I didn't see if I can just use a credit card instead of the normal process of applying for an account and post paying the bill. So basically I'm asking if they offer pre-paid accounts that I can pay for the month if I want to or not without any penalties.
Thanks!

Why did you sign that contract?

I think we should educate people about prepaid service and how much money they will save when switching over. People seem to just hop on a contract, thinking it's the only way to have cell service, when that's just not true.
Virgin mobile has a good comparison chart here. Their service uses sprint's network and costs a fraction of what Sprint's service costs. (Sure, Virgin doesn't roam on verizon like sprint does, but if you're covered by sprint without roaming, you're fine. The coverage is better than you'd think for VM).
Beyond Virgin Mobile, you have, in my opinion, one of the best deals around: Straight Talk's Bring Your Own Phone program. You can get a sim card for either AT&T's or T-Mobile's network and simply put it into any phone you like. $45/month = unlimited everything + no contracts. I am using their AT&T sim right now in my galaxy nexus and have so far been really impressed at their service.
So can someone who has a contract explain what the logic behind signing is? It just seems like you're pissing your money away.

xxBrun0xx said:
I think we should educate people about prepaid service and how much money they will save when switching over. People seem to just hop on a contract, thinking it's the only way to have cell service, when that's just not true.
Virgin mobile has a good comparison chart here. Their service uses sprint's network and costs a fraction of what Sprint's service costs. (Sure, Virgin doesn't roam on verizon like sprint does, but if you're covered by sprint without roaming, you're fine. The coverage is better than you'd think for VM).
Beyond Virgin Mobile, you have, in my opinion, one of the best deals around: Straight Talk's Bring Your Own Phone program. You can get a sim card for either AT&T's or T-Mobile's network and simply put it into any phone you like. $45/month = unlimited everything + no contracts. I am using their AT&T sim right now in my galaxy nexus and have so far been really impressed at their service.
So can someone who has a contract explain what the logic behind signing is? It just seems like you're pissing your money away.
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If you posted this a few months back, I would already change my mind .
Too late, but learning.
But there is one thing that I always have a glitch in mind though, that is the "unlimited data" advertised by ST or the alike, is it REALLY unlimited data like one tied to contract? or just a so-called MOBILE WEB, which is NOT 100% like we expect?

xxBrun0xx said:
I think we should educate people about prepaid service and how much money they will save when switching over. People seem to just hop on a contract, thinking it's the only way to have cell service, when that's just not true.
Virgin mobile has a good comparison chart here. Their service uses sprint's network and costs a fraction of what Sprint's service costs. (Sure, Virgin doesn't roam on verizon like sprint does, but if you're covered by sprint without roaming, you're fine. The coverage is better than you'd think for VM).
Beyond Virgin Mobile, you have, in my opinion, one of the best deals around: Straight Talk's Bring Your Own Phone program. You can get a sim card for either AT&T's or T-Mobile's network and simply put it into any phone you like. $45/month = unlimited everything + no contracts. I am using their AT&T sim right now in my galaxy nexus and have so far been really impressed at their service.
So can someone who has a contract explain what the logic behind signing is? It just seems like you're pissing your money away.
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There is also the T-Mobile/Walmart deal for $30/month if you don't talk a lot (100 voice, unlimited text, 5 GB of full speed data).
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xxBrun0xx said:
So can someone who has a contract explain what the logic behind signing is? It just seems like you're pissing your money away.
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-Most people cannot see savings long term - only that the subsidized price is cheaper.
-Roaming agreements - prepaid has none.
-U.S. carriers often limit prepaid options for phone/plans. (e.g. you cannot use phone X on plan Y).
-U.S. carriers (except T-Mobile) don't have reduced cost for postpaid, off-contract plans. Going off contract, postpaid with AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint means that you pay full retail price for the phone AND the same monthly price you would if you were on contract.

I am able to do with my phone whatever I want when I need to do it.

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-Most people cannot see savings long term - only that the subsidized price is cheaper.
-Roaming agreements - prepaid has none.
-U.S. carriers often limit prepaid options for phone/plans. (e.g. you cannot use phone X on plan Y).
-U.S. carriers (except T-Mobile) don't have reduced cost for postpaid, off-contract plans. Going off contract, postpaid with AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint means that you pay full retail price for the phone AND the same monthly price you would if you were on contract.
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- I agree, it's a shame so many people only look at the immediate savings
- Are you sure? I use ST and I roam on T-mobile when I don't have AT&T coverage
- I agree completely. They do with cdma phones. GSM, however, makes it very difficult to limit what phones your prepaid customers use
- True, but why go through a large provider when you can pay less for the same service by using one of their partners?
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I am able to do with my phone whatever I want when I need to do it.
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I also can do whatever I want when I need to do it, including switching phones and/or providers at no cost, and yet I pay a fraction of what you pay for otherwise identical service.
The postpaid pricing model just perplexes me. Prepaid should be more expensive because of the flexibility, yet it's that flexibility to switch that keeps prices competitive. Postpaid, on the other hand, gets to charge whatever it wants for service.

I don't know any more. WHY THE * did I do it WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok got that off my brain, now I have been "throttled" at 7.5GB. Verizon this meens war, with ICBMS or in my case the FCC, the BBB and when I can make a good set of videos the NEWS.
I am uploading my proof now and I had used 72GB with AT&T still could get 4-8 times more speed.
Verizon I played with the ball in your court, now you will be playing in mine and your not going to like it.
Point: Verizon you suck and you HAVE TO BE M.A.D to join them now. there 4G is garbage
moving on to pre paid: I am trying to get my dad to use ST , but really it would cost a bit more, becuase he use's Pre-paid allready. LOL

I can vouch for ST, fantastic service at a fair price.
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until you have to call their customer "service"
In fact, "service" departments associated with TracFone wireless (ie: TracFone, Net10, SafeLink, StraightTalk) are complete garbage. I used to sell lots of their prepaids and it was all nice and cheap till you need to contact them. Hopefully their IVR can help you because if you are transferred to a live representative, may god help you, because TracFoney won't.
That's why I have a contract, oh and insurance.

Actually, I agree with t the post above. I love having a cheap plan on an awesome phone but the customer service is horrible. Also, I have recently read horror stories about people getting kicked off of ST with no warning because they exceeded their monthly data limit. Not having a contract means you can leave any time, but also means your provider can change the rules or kick you out at any time. Apparently there are people on Verizon grandfathered into old unlimited data plans who use 70+ gb per month and have no repercussions. That's epic: D
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I have BOTH postpaid (family plan) contract service and THREE prepaid accts. (Two with T-Mobile and one with RedPocket)
I still prefer the customer service and the account level detail (online) with postpaid....
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With Rogers Canada: Paying $50 a month.
Unlimited Call / Text
6gb Data
My10 - 10 numbers free call text in North America.
Voice mail / Caller ID and all that jazz
And my GNex was subsidized. Paid 100$ for it. 3 year contract but each year I can get a new phone subsidized.
I am paying less for my plan and my phone than the no contract folks over the duration of my contract. I just know how to talk to the workers for deals, and discounts.
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xxBrun0xx said:
Actually, I agree with t the post above. I love having a cheap plan on an awesome phone but the customer service is horrible. Also, I have recently read horror stories about people getting kicked off of ST with no warning because they exceeded their monthly data limit. Not having a contract means you can leave any time, but also means your provider can change the rules or kick you out at any time. Apparently there are people on Verizon grandfathered into old unlimited data plans who use 70+ gb per month and have no repercussions. That's epic: D
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Ya I'm on a grandfathered plan... that's the only reason I haven't switched.
$130.00 a month for a two line family plan
1400 minutes
unlimited 3G
Free text
Free roaming (even in Guam.... which I didn't know they still count as international...)
The vmail and every other thing that is pointless probably ..
Really isn't that bad for me.. honestly I would provably be paying close to this for less buying two prepaids.
I didn't have to pay anything for this phone when I first got it, I had the og Inc and it broke. Insurance gave me this one.. I'm already due for a full upgrade but I just love this thing.
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Actually, if you were on prepaid through even Verizon ($50/month), you'd have unlimited everything. However, were you to switch to Virgin Mobile, you would only pay $70 for 2 lines, however you would get 600 minutes/month, which is probably still more than enough for 2 people.

I'm a Navy recruiter. I use my personal phone more than the gov one.
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I didn't sign it. Hubby did while I was out of town so he could get his shiny new iPhone 4S even after I had spent literally hours on the phone with AT&T arguing over the PDA Connect Unlimited feature I had grandfathered on my Atrix. 6 months after I purchased the Atrix & Lapdock and had merrily been tethering & docking with absolutely no problems--AT&T decided they weren't going to honor my PDA Connect Unlimited feature any more and I absolutely must "upgrade" to their 4G data plans. WTF? Why wait until I'm 6 months into a contract to change it? And their excuse was that my now 6 months old Atrix wasn't "compatible" with my current data plan. Really? It works fine for me. Long story, short--they agreed to credit me for the remaining 18 months of my PDA Connect Unlimited feature & I agreed not to tether any more. Customer service is a concern? This is the same company that way back in the day actually told me that Free Call Forwarding doesn't mean we won't charge you for it--it just means you can do it all you want. Also the same company that tried to tell me that I absolutely had to upgrade my old Nokia (Charlie's Angels phone) to a GAIT phone because it was going to stop working. How long did those GAIT phones last? Not nearly as long as my Nokia. I can't speak for the other big US cell carriers but AT&T has the absolute worst customer service reps on the phone and franchise stores. The company store reps are much better but only enough to fix whatever the dingbats in corporate broke or tried to screw me out of. On June 24th--the first iPhone is going to Straight Talk. In November the second iPhone is going to whomever is the best deal at the time. Next year in May--the remaining iPhone and my Atrix will kiss AT&T good bye forever! As for insurance--try Square Trade or Service Net or better yet--look at the freaking deductible AT&T is charging on cell phones. For my Atrix, they wanted to charge me $6 per month and should anything happen to my phone--I would have to pay $150 deductible. I bought the phone refurb for $99. Are they crazy? At one point--they wouldn't even offer insurance on smart phones.

Sorry to hear about that. There's a reason why major carriers are so much more profitable than small prepaid ones.
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I'm never going back to prepaid. Way too much money just for texting and calling.
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I'm never going back to prepaid. Way too much money just for texting and calling.
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Cant speak for dumb phones, but smart phones are so much cheaper on prepaid its unbelievable.
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I agree. Actually there are some good prepaid deals for just talk and text too. Smart Talk is 35. My smartphone plan is only 30 and if I used Sipdroid for talk over data I could have unlimited talk too but I only get EDGE until T-Mobile refarms 1900 HSPA in Wichita but there are some good deals if you just look around.
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Verizon Eliminating Unlimited Data

Hooray Verizon is successfully alienating customers once again! Long story short Q3 or Q4 Verizon is looking to require grandfathered clients to switch to tiered data. Another article even mentions they may force mid-contract customers to do the same.
Already tired of kids yelling on forums about T-Mobile or Sprint here I come
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57435601-94/verizon-to-kill-unlimited-data-plans-for-existing-subscribers/

AuroEdge said:
Hooray Verizon is successfully alienating customers once again! Long story short Q3 or Q4 Verizon is looking to require grandfathered clients to switch to tiered data. Another article even mentions they may force mid-contract customers to do the same.
Already tired of kids yelling on forums about T-Mobile or Sprint here I come
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57435601-94/verizon-to-kill-unlimited-data-plans-for-existing-subscribers/
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Im a unlimited plan person...grand-fathered in -_- grrrrrrrrrrrr this may make me switch to some other carrier......

They've really gotta update their $30 data offering to 4GB across the board. Up until Google Music I didn't use 2GB, but not anymore. I'm looking at my plan and it looks like they no longer offer mobile-to-mobile (M2M) texting either. It's either 1000 or unlimited messages per month. SMS on the whole costs carriers almost nothing.
For those without corporate discounts, $80 is the cheapest data plan you can get. Is that really not enough Verizon?

I am also one of these 'grand-fathered' customers and if this goes through I will most likely be switching to Sprint when my contract ends. Sad. I hope Sprint picks up the new Galaxy S in time so I can at least stay on the phone I like, although that new HTC looks like it'd be a sweet alternative.

So which will happen first...Verizon offers the Samsung Galaxy S 3, or Verizon penalizes loyal customers for upgrading?
If it's the latter, I'm jumping ship...assuming there are any carriers left who offer unlimited data.

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I am also one of these 'grand-fathered' customers and if this goes through I will most likely be switching to Sprint when my contract ends. Sad. I hope Sprint picks up the new Galaxy S in time so I can at least stay on the phone I like, although that new HTC looks like it'd be a sweet alternative.
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Unless you are gonna use sense, I recommend not getting HTC. You are far better off with Samsung on developments if you get a reasonable phones.
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I'd jump to T-Mobile, but they have virtually no coverage. I travel all over the southeast and need it. I've been using Verizon prepaid and it's fine, but if they get rid of the unlimited data for $30 plan I might have to look elsewhere.
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Unless you are gonna use sense, I recommend not getting HTC. You are far better off with Samsung on developments if you get a reasonable phones.
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I was specifically referring to the One X being released around the same time as the Galaxy S3... I just meant if the S3 isn't available by the time my contract expires it'd be my 2nd choice. If I get a really good deal though I wouldn't be completely opposed to going with an S2, but we'll see I guess. Maybe we'll get lucky and Verizon will drop this whole thing due to negative reaction.

I use less than 2GB a month and often less than 1 GB but if they are eliminating unlimited data then there's no reason for me to stay on Verizon.

As someone who's only source of real internet at home is mobile or expensive, high latency satellite. And bring a gamer that uses 6gb per month. I well be keeping my unlimited line on 3g for as long as the 2 fascinates on my plan live. F#(k you Verizon! It's not that your struggling. It's that you need to make next quarter bigger than last quarter. And you've already dodged all the taxes you could so it's squeeze time on your customers.
I will do everything possible to keep my account a least profitable one.
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does not suprise me one bit! if i loose unlimited data then its time to jump ship!

Yes but if they switch and change your plan before the contract is up, it would give you grounds to dump them without an early termination fee.
Unfortunately Verizon is the only one that gets service where.I live... but since I can just use the Wifi at my house (and do), who cares.

I am not on Verizon but it have the 5g cap from us cellular when they changed it and I thought it would be a big deal, but I really font download as much as I thought. I download all my rooms at home anyway because it is much faster and doesn't use up the allotted amount. I am sorry, but getting 46 down with my home service does make it easier. I too was once on the dial up or satallite on internet category so I feel for you.
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Isn't that considered breaking a contract? I thought the purpose of contracts was to lock in a certain item for so many years
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It is breaking a contract and you can get out if you choose. It happens all the time, but they dont make it a big deal so people don't leave. If and when they do, they have to send you a notice with the option to opt out, legally they do.
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I am not on Verizon but it have the 5g cap from us cellular when they changed it and I thought it would be a big deal, but I really font download as much as I thought. I download all my rooms at home anyway because it is much faster and doesn't use up the allotted amount. I am sorry, but getting 46 down with my home service does make it easier. I too was once on the dial up or satallite on internet category so I feel for you.
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5GB is decent. Verizon charges $50/month I think for that tier. No thanks! I mentioned text service is virtually free for providers to support. 3G & LTE are polar opposites to SMS. I do not wholly blame people who tether an ass ton without a tethering plan, but they certainly did not help.
Regardless Verizon has never really stopped being greedy I guess you could say

$50 for 5g plan does seem a but steep, but most companies are switching to a tiered plan at this point. I am paying 130/month for two phones with the 5gig plan, unlimited texts, and something like 1200 minutes. And I get a new phone every 10 months(new to me...slow us cellular).
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I can only afford 2 gigs a months and it isn't enough. I try and watch my data but I always go over and have to pay an extra $10.
I have a friend with a GS2 she said she would give to me(has a nearly in noticeable crack)and my mom wants a smart phone anyway. Might just give her my fassy and go to sprint.
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I'd jump to T-Mobile, but they have virtually no coverage. I travel all over the southeast and need it. I've been using Verizon prepaid and it's fine, but if they get rid of the unlimited data for $30 plan I might have to look elsewhere.
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Same here they only cover half of my city and I live in the half that they it don't cover

Unlimited 4g sounds amazing. If they take it off I'm switching to sprint. Would be the same price a month. Plus with sprint and Amazon wireless you can get gs2 or future gs3 for a penny for new customers.
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what carrier are you getting it on?

so after 16 years, verizon's deciding to screw me over and take away my 21% discount because of the fact my father retired from a pharmecutial company after 35 years and verizon decided they don't want to give us the discount anymore, despite the fact he's receiving pension benefits etc.
thing is, my case is unique because i'm on a 550 min loyalty plan, and for 3 phones (and me with my unlimited data), we only pay $120 a month. that's a damn good price for verizon.
it wouldn't have stung so bad, bc my mother works for municipal govt, so we were going to apply for 15% and put it in her name..but at the last step they said sorry, you can't keep that loyalty plan, and the price will go up $30 or so to a 700 minute plan...i said, um NO, we use liek 5 minutes a month between the 3 of us, so yea, scrap that, thanks.
so now, i'm being told to jump through hoops to try to keep my discount, which i know it won't work (they want me to contact HR at the company to see if they'll give us an indiviudal 22% retiree discount..but i know they won't) and that i lose my discount the 19th.
so now, i'm pissed. after 16 years of verizon, they constnatly screw everybody over, and i'm done with it..so now i'm considering saying screw it and jumping to ATT or something and paying that ripoff of 90 something a month with limited data just to get rid of crap verizon once and for all.
what carriers are you guys looking to get the G2 on? i was going to get it thursday, but now i don't know if i should even bother, bc who knows if i'll be staying with verizon or not.
any advantages to any other carriers of verizon?

If your strictly looking at price I believe T-Mobile is cheapest but your coverage will likely suffer.. They have the phones already ready to order but aren't shipping it yet.. sprint has a 80 dollar unlimited everything plan here in Chicago for 1 lineup can check ur local market but they won't have the phone till sometime in October... I have ATT which everyone says is the second coming of Verizon but not as bad.. personally never had a problem with ATT cs or service... They are just as pricey as Verizon though.. If u just want the phone now Att is the only option currently.
ATT usually has discount programs as well..check with customer service or the business department.
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djkinetic said:
If your strictly looking at price I believe T-Mobile is cheapest but your coverage will likely suffer.. They have the phones already ready to order but aren't shipping it yet.. sprint has a 80 dollar unlimited everything plan here in Chicago for 1 lineup can check ur local market but they won't have the phone till sometime in October... I have ATT which everyone says is the second coming of Verizon but not as bad.. personally never had a problem with ATT cs or service... They are just as pricey as Verizon though.. If u just want the phone now Att is the only option currently.
ATT usually has discount programs as well..check with customer service or the business department.
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thing is, even with a discount, the price we pay irght now is so low lol and since my dad is retired, i doubt they'd do anything since he's not a "current" employee, and my current job gives 15% on verizon, but nothing on ATT (i checked for my coworkers.)
honestly, i'd probably stay with verizon bc even without the discount, my phone is literally like $50 a month to just pay to my dad for when he pays the bill..while i've got unlimited data still, as opposed to the standard $90 a month.
thanks for the opinion though..i hear ATT's LTE speeds are faster too...because verizon, where i am, is pretty damn slow. in my house i get like barely 10mbps, and this market has been here for over a year now

I understand that the loss of the discount is discouraging but that is what companies do. I work for a a company that offers different discounts but when you no longer qualify for the discount then it can no longer be applied.
I don't know what city you are in or what other services would be better in your area, but if you can keep your unlimited data I would put pride aside and pay the difference and enjoy the LG G2 on Thursday.
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Bxrider117 said:
I understand that the loss of the discount is discouraging but that is what companies do. I work for a a company that offers different discounts but when you no longer qualify for the discount then it can no longer be applied.
I don't know what city you are in or what other services would be better in your area, but if you can keep your unlimited data I would put pride aside and pay the difference and enjoy the LG G2 on Thursday.
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i'm thinking about it bc of the cheap price i'm paying monthly.
i think at this point, the second verizon tries to take my unlimited away (or does) is when i'll finally leave. their price structure is literally identical to ATT, except ATT gives you 1 more gig of data for the same exact price. that's a no brainer. if they honestly want to keep me, they'll let me keep unlimited data, seeing as i don't use upgrades and i'm buying at full price.
forgot to mention that i use like 7-15 gigs every single month too, lol..

jayochs said:
so after 16 years, verizon's deciding to screw me over and take away my 21% discount because of the fact my father retired from a pharmecutial company after 35 years and verizon decided they don't want to give us the discount anymore, despite the fact he's receiving pension benefits etc.
thing is, my case is unique because i'm on a 550 min loyalty plan, and for 3 phones (and me with my unlimited data), we only pay $120 a month. that's a damn good price for verizon.
it wouldn't have stung so bad, bc my mother works for municipal govt, so we were going to apply for 15% and put it in her name..but at the last step they said sorry, you can't keep that loyalty plan, and the price will go up $30 or so to a 700 minute plan...i said, um NO, we use liek 5 minutes a month between the 3 of us, so yea, scrap that, thanks.
so now, i'm being told to jump through hoops to try to keep my discount, which i know it won't work (they want me to contact HR at the company to see if they'll give us an indiviudal 22% retiree discount..but i know they won't) and that i lose my discount the 19th.
so now, i'm pissed. after 16 years of verizon, they constnatly screw everybody over, and i'm done with it..so now i'm considering saying screw it and jumping to ATT or something and paying that ripoff of 90 something a month with limited data just to get rid of crap verizon once and for all.
what carriers are you guys looking to get the G2 on? i was going to get it thursday, but now i don't know if i should even bother, bc who knows if i'll be staying with verizon or not.
any advantages to any other carriers of verizon?
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My friend, I went through a very similar situation, so hopefully I can help you. My gf and I got crappy reception at work for the past 6 years on Verizon and I finally had enough. Verizon came out to test reception and agreed that it wasn't acceptable so they waived our etf's. I was also with Verizon for 16 years.
We jumped on our friends t-mobile account to try it out and what a mistake that was. Same crappy reception at work and much worse reception overall compared to Verizon. And their building penetration sucks huge donkey balls. I would get LTE in a strip mall parking lot but not 50 feet away inside a store. It was a joke.
I strongly believe that you get what you pay for with t-mobile. And we live in San Diego, which is a major city obviously with t-mobile LTE. It sucked.
We went to AT&T and couldn't be happier! Their reception, LTE coverage, speeds and customer service are unbelievable in our short experience. I'm not looking back at all!
I say make the jump bro! Let me know if you have any questions.
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thanks man! no idea what I'm gonna do but as it stands I'll probably stick with Verizon. my reception is OK and the price point is decent. meh.
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I've been with Sprint the past 10 years, but with my last 2 year contract coming up in 5 days, I'm dropping them. I'm simply tired of their data network always being behind the curve and false promises about it. I'll be moving to AT&T for the G2 and add a line to my wife's iPhone plan.

I have been on Verizon for probably the last 8 to 10 years. In the northwest USA they are hands down the best provider. The widest coverage and the best network speeds. But my biggest issue with them is their need to lock down every new device. I would have jumped ship a long time ago if I wasn't on a plan with my family. Im really hoping there is good development for the verizon version of the G2. I have been using a razr the last 2 years and people have done some amazing stuff with it. Hopefully the dev community keeps it going with the G2.

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so after 16 years, verizon's deciding to screw me over and take away my 21% discount because of the fact my father retired from a pharmecutial company after 35 years and verizon decided they don't want to give us the discount anymore, despite the fact he's receiving pension benefits etc.
thing is, my case is unique because i'm on a 550 min loyalty plan, and for 3 phones (and me with my unlimited data), we only pay $120 a month. that's a damn good price for verizon.
it wouldn't have stung so bad, bc my mother works for municipal govt, so we were going to apply for 15% and put it in her name..but at the last step they said sorry, you can't keep that loyalty plan, and the price will go up $30 or so to a 700 minute plan...i said, um NO, we use liek 5 minutes a month between the 3 of us, so yea, scrap that, thanks.
so now, i'm being told to jump through hoops to try to keep my discount, which i know it won't work (they want me to contact HR at the company to see if they'll give us an indiviudal 22% retiree discount..but i know they won't) and that i lose my discount the 19th.
what carriers are you guys looking to get the G2 on? i was going to get it thursday, but now i don't know if i should even bother, bc who knows if i'll be staying with verizon or not.
any advantages to any other carriers of verizon?
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Old paycheck and photoshop....
Not saying anymore...

WizeGuyDezignz said:
My friend, I went through a very similar situation, so hopefully I can help you. My gf and I got crappy reception at work for the past 6 years on Verizon and I finally had enough. Verizon came out to test reception and agreed that it wasn't acceptable so they waived our etf's. I was also with Verizon for 16 years.
We jumped on our friends t-mobile account to try it out and what a mistake that was. Same crappy reception at work and much worse reception overall compared to Verizon. And their building penetration sucks huge donkey balls. I would get LTE in a strip mall parking lot but not 50 feet away inside a store. It was a joke.
I strongly believe that you get what you pay for with t-mobile. And we live in San Diego, which is a major city obviously with t-mobile LTE. It sucked.
We went to AT&T and couldn't be happier! Their reception, LTE coverage, speeds and customer service are unbelievable in our short experience. I'm not looking back at all!
I say make the jump bro! Let me know if you have any questions.
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I could have written this same post, with two minor changes. I left Sprint after forever, tried out AT&T, and had a bad experience with them, tried T-Mobile (reluctantly), and boom, perfect service and works everywhere I work and play. Just goes to show you how location dependent different carriers are. T-Mobile loves the east coast. So now I have 2 lines on T-Mobile one unlimited everything, one 500mb for my wife who uses Wifi at home and work and averaged about 100MB per month on sprint for 100 bucks, and I get a 10 percent discount. Victory!

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I could have written this same post, with two minor changes. I left Sprint after forever, tried out AT&T, and had a bad experience with them, tried T-Mobile (reluctantly), and boom, perfect service and works everywhere I work and play. Just goes to show you how location dependent different carriers are. T-Mobile loves the east coast. So now I have 2 lines on T-Mobile one unlimited everything, one 500mb for my wife who uses Wifi at home and work and averaged about 100MB per month on sprint for 100 bucks, and I get a 10 percent discount. Victory!
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I just had a Tmo demo phone. Worked great in my office. Zero signal in my house (OK, I can deal with wifi if I must), zero coverage in my wifes office. That was the last straw.
Outdoors their coverage is fine, but building penetration is a problem area.

chrisexv6 said:
I just had a Tmo demo phone. Worked great in my office. Zero signal in my house (OK, I can deal with wifi if I must), zero coverage in my wifes office. That was the last straw.
Outdoors their coverage is fine, but building penetration is a problem area.
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Must be an east coast thing, I get LTE in a gigantic police station on any floor I'm on. If I didn't, I wouldn't be able to have kept t-mobile as we have no Wifi to use Wifi calling and my phone always needs to work. Outdoors is great, I agree, but as long as I get a bar or 2 in my office I'm okay with that.

I currently have AT&T for my work line and T-Mobile for my personal lines, my wife uses Verizon.
Around my area T-Mobile LTE is fantastic, I pay about $128 a month for 2 lines, unlimited talk, text and unlimited high speed data. That's including the $40 a month payment for the 2 phones (S4,HTC One). I do get a 20 percent discount on my lines thanks to my wife's employee discount from Lockheed Martin. In total I use about 35-40 GB of data and T-Mobile never bats an eye.
AT&T LTE has roughly the same coverage overall but slower than T-Mobile LTE around my parts. Verizon is the slowest but they have the absolute best coverage, we would find signal on my wife's iPhone 5 in the middle of no where when we travel, same place I would be showing zero service for both AT&T and T-Mobile.
Overall, I really do love T-Mobile, I wouldn't have said the same thing a couple years ago but they have massively improved.

well, not like anyone cares lol, but it looks like verizon is gonna give me 15% discount through my mom's work (as she works for govt)
thing is, they kept telling me we had to change to her name to get it..which by doing that would drop my loyalty plan and go into 700 minutes for $30 more.
i finally got a supervisor and they said no, if you validate via email, it doesn't matter, it will just add it on no matter if its your mom or dads discount, bc they're adding the discount bc of the domain, not bc of whos name is on it. only time we'd need to do an AOL is if we had to manually submit with a paystub.
so, i'm gonna get the 15% once i get into work tomorrow and go into my moms email and do it. not bad, i suppose...
and i think i'm gonna just get the G2 on an upgrade. do it on my dads upgrade, then after its activated, put his flip phone back on, and then put my sim in and keep my unlimited data. the proration for 1 day of data will be like, $1, and the only other fee will be the $30 upgrade fee..that's still better than paying 600 i guess lol
now to try to sell my GS4 bc i truly can't stand it anymore..

also a long time VZW customer (gotta be at least 10 years now, if not more). Also on a grandfathered unlimited LTE plan (contract expired already, going month to month). Will probably stick it out with VZW for at least the near future. Around here in the NYC area, t-mobile is abysmal and ATT is not that much better. VZW is clearly ahead of the game in terms of voice reception, so I really have no incentive to switch.
If VZW takes away my unlimited data, I'd probably switch to Sprint, or maybe ATT
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and i think i'm gonna just get the G2 on an upgrade. do it on my dads upgrade, then after its activated, put his flip phone back on, and then put my sim in and keep my unlimited data. the proration for 1 day of data will be like, $1, and the only other fee will be the $30 upgrade fee..that's still better than paying 600 i guess lol
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can anyone confirm this will work? My plan is also a family plan where one party has a flip phone. If this will definitely work and will not result in my losing unlimited data, I might try it. Otherwise I'm forking out the $600

yeah dude, people do it all the time. the customer service rep even told me there's no charge back for deactivating it. I'm gonna ask the rep tomorrow if he loses commission if i do that... if so i won't do it, and I'll goto best buy since they don't make commission.. if not I'll do it.
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I'm on Verizon and I'm sticking with it. The only carrier I might consider is AT&T, but here's the clincher for me: coverage. Yes, I live in Baltimore/DC area so I could get good coverage from any carrier. However, my family is from a small town (we are talking population less than 1500) an hour and a half away from any city of significance, further from any real metro area. Was up there this past 4th of July and I was pulling down 18Mbps via LTE, and I had that coverage the whole way up there. AT&T just can't match it. They lag in LTE and I'm not optimistic on them because they never had a substantial build out on HSPA. That same town was Edge when Verizon had 3g coverage. Now it is at least HSPA. All I can say is Verizon cannot be touched for coverage. LTE-A is right around the corner, as-is VoLTE, and the G2 will have us covered for this capability.
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