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Now that we're starting to see an increase in ROM development for the MT4G, which one is your favorite? I've tried every single one of them, and I can't figure out which one I like best for my MT4G. I previously owned a MT3G and only used CyanogenMod, but I'm not 100% sure if I like it for my MT4G. Well, I actually love it on my MT4G, but after playing around with HTC Sense (not T-Mobile's version) I've been switching back-and-forth between ROMs.
So, what's your favorite ROM? Here's the current available choices and I'm sure there will be more to choose from soon...
- CyanogenMod by Zinx Verituse
- Desire HD by eViL D:
- Desire Z by eVil D:
- Galaxy Sense Glacier by Gr8gorilla
- Ice Glacier by teamsilence
- MIUI by eViL D:
I can't decide between CyanogenMod and Iced Glacier. Can someone please compare the pros and cons of each? Thanks =]]
So far for me the Desire HD is my favorite rom, way better than espresso.
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G1 had at least 1 post per day with "favorite rom" question. And every post had as many different answers as there were roms. You will not get far by doing this because everybody's favorite rom is different. Try them all and see what you like. Best rom is the one that works for you, not for me or some other random person.
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G1 had at least 1 post per day with "favorite rom" question. And every post had as many different answers as there were roms. You will not get far by doing this because everybody's favorite rom is different. Try them all and see what you like. Best rom is the one that works for you, not for me or some other random person.
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I've tried them all so far. I'll always enjoy using CyanogenMod but have started enjoying the non-stock HTC Sense setup. My only intent with starting this thread was to see what others were enjoying the most. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I've tried them all so far. I'll always enjoy using CyanogenMod but have started enjoying the non-stock HTC Sense setup. My only intent with starting this thread was to see what others were enjoying the most. Nothing more, nothing less.
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And again, everyone's perspective will differ. There are power-users such as myself and others, and then there are normal...average everyday users. There are personal and business users. Each person will have different apps, uses and requirements so no two devices will be alike. Hence, your thread is subjective and not objective.
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And again, everyone's perspective will differ. There are power-users such as myself and others, and then there are normal...average everyday users. There are personal and business users. Each person will have different apps, uses and requirements so no two devices will be alike. Hence, your thread is subjective and not objective.
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I am only looking for opinions as to what ROM people prefer. Since you guys didn't provide that type of response, why does it matter to you if this thread is subjective and not objective?
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I am only looking for opinions as to what ROM people prefer. Since you guys didn't provide that type of response, why does it matter to you if this thread is subjective and not objective?
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Why would you want something someone else prefers? Do you follow other people? The best ROM is the one that YOU like best. The one that works best for YOU on YOUR device, not others.
It is sort of a stupid question if you think about it. If I told you that stock rocks, would that work for you? If I told you bricking your phone rocks, would you brick yours?
Way too many people ask questions without thinking about it in context first.
Try each one and go with the one that works best for you. There's your answer.
It's your phone. Make it yours.
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It is sort of a stupid question if you think about it. If I told you that stock rocks, would that work for you? If I told you bricking your phone rocks, would you brick yours?
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Not sure why you think it's a stupid question, when today's society revolves around people's opinions. I'm guessing by your comments you don't participate on Facebook or Twitter, because those are social sites where people primarily communicate their opinions about things in their lives. I also suppose you don't enjoy watching the news, reading reviews about products and/or services, or anything else that is subjective. I value people's opinions. I know what I like and I know what I want, but hearing what others' think (in this case about MT4G ROMs) hold value to me as I may find other means for ROMs I didn't much prefer. Maybe I think I'm using the right ROM for my reasons, but perhaps there's another one out there I didn't try or didn't use long enough to see the value in it.
If you don't like opinions then leave this thread, because that's all I'm asking for here.
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Not sure why you think it's a stupid question, when today's society revolves around people's opinions. I'm guessing by your comments you don't participate on Facebook or Twitter, because those are social sites where people primarily communicate their opinions about things in their lives. I also suppose you don't enjoy watching the news, reading reviews about products and/or services, or anything else that is subjective. I value people's opinions. I know what I like and I know what I want, but hearing what others' think (in this case about MT4G ROMs) hold value to me as I may find other means for ROMs I didn't much prefer. Maybe I think I'm using the right ROM for my reasons, but perhaps there's another one out there I didn't try or didn't use long enough to see the value in it.
If you don't like opinions then leave this thread, because that's all I'm asking for here.
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Actually, I have been a MOD in the Crackberry forums for around 6 years and have helped many members in Android Central's forums for quite a while as well. Yes I Facebook and Tweet. But the big difference is I surround myself with people who are more or less professional and experts in their respective fields. I don't go posting what I had for lunch or every time I sneeze either.
I am a professional. I relate to other professionals. I ask only when I've exhausted every other avenue. I share my opinions when asked for them. I give advice when asked for it.
What I don't do is ask others what their preferences are when it comes to something personal...like my phone or computer. The setup and apps and OS I use wouldn't work for others. The theme I use wouldn't work for someone else, and by someone doing what others do is simply copying them and not being creative or original.
Ask what you will. I fought so that others can say, ask and do what they want freely.
Edit: Now....back on topic. I am unsubscribing from this thread as I see no purpose in it. Good luck.
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And again, everyone's perspective will differ. There are power-users such as myself and others, and then there are normal...average everyday users. There are personal and business users. Each person will have different apps, uses and requirements so no two devices will be alike. Hence, your thread is subjective and not objective.
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lol you think all this arguing is more productive then just saying what rom you prefer? But you made a good point, so what rom do you think is best for power-users, normal, and business?
Theres nothing wrong with giving your opinions and reasons to back it up.
i personally enjoy iced glacier because it comes pre-installed with the custom battery icon, and OC kernel.
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Actually, I have been a MOD in the Crackberry forums for around 6 years and have helped many members in Android Central's forums for quite a while as well. Yes I Facebook and Tweet. But the big difference is I surround myself with people who are more or less professional and experts in their respective fields. I don't go posting what I had for lunch or every time I sneeze either.
I am a professional. I relate to other professionals. I ask only when I've exhausted every other avenue. I share my opinions when asked for them. I give advice when asked for it.
What I don't do is ask others what their preferences are when it comes to something personal...like my phone or computer. The setup and apps and OS I use wouldn't work for others. The theme I use wouldn't work for someone else, and by someone doing what others do is simply copying them and not being creative or original.
Ask what you will. I fought so that others can say, ask and do what they want freely.
Edit: Now....back on topic. I am unsubscribing from this thread as I see no purpose in it. Good luck.
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And not a moment too soon. Some of us had to endure three of your worthless posts..
I am interested to find out what people think about the different roms too..I just flashed cm and will be testing it for a while but I kinda like miui too
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i have to give it up to the latest cyanogen mod
Using the new CM with granks's kernel and I love it! Its fast and stable! I loved Iced Glacier but decided to switch it up. I tried out MIUI rom but it felt like I went back to Apple lol! All these ROM's are great though, no complains at all! VARIETY IS THE SPICE OF LIFE!
Does this forum have a sleepless ninja?
Let me explain: I am currently looking to buy a tablet for college and I am looking to get the most out of my tablet for my studies, for enjoyment and for understanding in this technological realm. Now, to me it is between the Xoom and the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and all signs point to the tab. Better screen, lighter, thinner, newer, faster etc. etc. (even the disadvantages, HDMI/USB/SD Card don't bother me as I don't really use any of that) But the Xoom has that one intangible, sleepless ninja. He shows xoom owners how to do this, how to do that and I just think the advantage of having a walk through is so high on my list that it might out weight a lot of the advantages the Tab has. Its this guy that is keeping me drawn to the Xoom, so I ask you either A) Does this forum/ community have a dedicated man like this? or B) Does anyone know if one is coming or if I did decide to get a tab would one be liked?
Yes it is a noob-friendly thing but, we were all noobs once right?
At the moment the GT10.1 is running stock version of Honeycomb, stock being the "pure" OS form no 2nd company has added anything or altered the software, this is important to know. This being said the stock version does not have "guides" or a "sleepless ninja", it will however guide you through the initial process of signing in to your accounts like Google or push email accounts.
With this being addressed Samsung does have a "layer" that goes over the "stock" Android OS and this is called Touchwiz. Samsung has not implemented this yet for their own reasons but has recently announced that it is coming "soon" as a download update. This Touchwiz may have your "secret ninjas". Touchwiz being their own creation may have "ninjas" to help explain and show all the new "bells" and "whistles" and abilities that Touchwiz will be able to do. Unfortunately like I said before Samsung has announced that is will be coming soon so till then it is the stock non "ninja" OS.
On a personal note I find the stock Honeycomb Android very intuitive and practical.( so much so that I cannot wait for the Touchwiz version ) Also I find the exploration to be half the fun Also there are TONS of websites that help you discover anything you need to know about Android on the webz and of course here in XDA. Although many do get a bit .....annoyed....some times with repeat questions someone will most usually scrape some patience and help you out, I will say to use the search option most generously though I have had my GT10.1 for over a week now and love it I am by no means a wiz but thanks to many here I am "Sleepless Ninja" free! Good luck with your choice and have fun learning.
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At the moment the GT10.1 is running stock version of Honeycomb, stock being the "pure" OS form no 2nd company has added anything or altered the software, this is important to know. This being said the stock version does not have "guides" or a "sleepless ninja", it will however guide you through the initial process of signing in to your accounts like Google or push email accounts.
With this being addressed Samsung does have a "layer" that goes over the "stock" Android OS and this is called Touchwiz. Samsung has not implemented this yet for their own reasons but has recently announced that it is coming "soon" as a download update. This Touchwiz may have your "secret ninjas". Touchwiz being their own creation may have "ninjas" to help explain and show all the new "bells" and "whistles" and abilities that Touchwiz will be able to do. Unfortunately like I said before Samsung has announced that is will be coming soon so till then it is the stock non "ninja" OS.
On a personal note I find the stock Honeycomb Android very intuitive and practical.( so much so that I cannot wait for the Touchwiz version ) Also I find the exploration to be half the fun Also there are TONS of websites that help you discover anything you need to know about Android on the webz and of course here in XDA. Although many do get a bit .....annoyed....some times with repeat questions someone will most usually scrape some patience and help you out, I will say to use the search option most generously though I have had my GT10.1 for over a week now and love it I am by no means a wiz but thanks to many here I am "Sleepless Ninja" free! Good luck with your choice and have fun learning.
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I do agree that the search feature needs to be used and I did. Now, I thank you for your response BUT if you had read my post you might have seen the link to sleepless ninjas website. Sleepless Ninja is a real physical person, sleeplessninja.com. The Xoom doesn't have a "sleepless ninja" embedded either, what it has is a man dedicated to trying to help out the community, with tutorials, video how-tos and so on. I was wondering if the Tab community has that same type of person or group of people who go out of their way to help the community. I am a visual learner and so videos are something I enjoy seeing as I think they help. If this is what someone here has I would love to see it.
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I do agree that the search feature needs to be used and I did. Now, I thank you for your response BUT if you had read my post you might have seen the link to sleepless ninjas website. Sleepless Ninja is a real physical person, sleeplessninja.com. The Xoom doesn't have a "sleepless ninja" embedded either, what it has is a man dedicated to trying to help out the community, with tutorials, video how-tos and so on. I was wondering if the Tab community has that same type of person or group of people who go out of their way to help the community. I am a visual learner and so videos are something I enjoy seeing as I think they help. If this is what someone here has I would love to see it.
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Hahaha its very early in NY. I ABSOLUTELY missed that. I did root my GT10.1 through XDA but it was through here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131448
I used odin to root and I am able to odin back to stock. No video that I know of yet, sorry. I am an idiot. If I come across what you are looking for (now that I know) I will post here. Good luck and sorry I wasted your time
Not yet but I vote you! Get crackin!
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I don't really see the point of this "real physical person" online. We have tons of threads dedicated to helping newbie and seriously though, most of what's applied to the XOOM will also work on the Tab as they both run stock-enough HC.
But if you can't be bothered to do a little googling/searching, maybe the XOOM and sleeplessninja are best for you.
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I don't really see the point of this "real physical person" online. We have tons of threads dedicated to helping newbie and seriously though, most of what's applied to the XOOM will also work on the Tab as they both run stock-enough HC.
But if you can't be bothered to do a little googling/searching, maybe the XOOM and sleeplessninja are best for you.
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More than anything else it is the videos that I like. I remember and understand things when I see them performed and videos to me give me that edge to be confident and know enough about what I am doing to actually jump for it.
Now,that being said the preponderance of threads, guides, walkthtoughs and the like here leaves little to be desired but curiosity did get me and, for the most part, the helpful nature of the people in this forum has shined through.
@OP
If you're buying a tab based on the degree of handholding available, the iPad is the best bet currently. Ideology aside, it has the best ecosystem, the best stable of apps, and the best peer-support, if based on size of userbase alone.
I understand, though, that ideology, or at least philosophical outlook, is pretty important. It's why XDA exists, after all, else we'd all be nibbling at S. Job's toes by now.
Then, on the issue of "durability" of peer support, none of the current Android (or RIM, or TouchPad) is a good buy. Reason is that part of the first wave of 'droid tabs have yet to show. And after that, there'll be yet a second wave of tabs before the year is out (hopefully outfitted with ICS). In short, there will be a deluge of tabs, each of which will have its little pool of users, and all of which will have very short lives. Does not bode well for that elusive "Sleepless Ninja" to pop into existence.
These, as compared to one big homogenous iPad collective. If your field is statistics, there's no contest.
But perhaps you favor fictional literature, where we can be the few Merry Men against the iHorde innumerable. Oops, getting my 'phores mixed with my phives here.. Anyway, there is an advantage to be a big frog in a small pond. Indeed, it can be YOU in that most epic '84 Apple commercial, taking a mighty swing against the faceless collective!
Yes, I hear you say, "Let me be the one, the Sleepless Ninja, the Hammer of Justice!" And I say, go forth, and make your mark! And we all say, yay, for our Sleepless Ninja is nigh!
Cheers for the OP, our new Sleepless Ninja! Here's a Thank to get you on your way. Now, get the hell to work, and let me know pronto when that custom ROM is done!
NO SLACKIN!
I've seen that there are custom ROMs for Kindle (the "old", standard one), the one I saw was Chinese. Having such a unique and powerful device (that can use free of charge the 3G networks in 100 countries) in hand, I have plenty of ideas what kind of programs one could put on it.
So, why isn't there a dedicated thread for these devices?
I think it's because the Fire is based on Android... so more customisable ROM to be created & developed, compared with the normal Kindle.
Hm, but XDA Forums are not exclusively for Android, are they?
i want a kindle with miui or cyanogen!
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Hm, but XDA Forums are not exclusively for Android, are they?
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not exclusively, but it helps if the device is mod friendly and kidnle isn't very modable.
maybe coz they are neither Android nor Windows...
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Hm, but XDA Forums are not exclusively for Android, are they?
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The regular kindle is not an "xda."
nice excuses, thank you all!
eirh said:
nice excuses, thank you all!
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excuses == logical reason?
not an android or windows phone device
eirh said:
nice excuses, thank you all!
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You act like we speak for xda. You're just as much apart of the website as anyone else. If you want a forum for the original Kindle, then start a new thread asking for one in the general section and see if it obtains interest. Chances are, it won't so that's you're answer. Not enough interest from the community of xda to start a forum for it.
how on earth would the kindle benefit from any modding, really though.. total waste of time for everyone involved.
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You act like we speak for xda. You're just as much apart of the website as anyone else. If you want a forum for the original Kindle, then start a new thread asking for one in the general section and see if it obtains interest. Chances are, it won't so that's you're answer. Not enough interest from the community of xda to start a forum for it.
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no, i'm not acting like that. as you say, i'm as much part of the xda as the others, i just noticed that there was not a real point in the answers.
the issue is this:
* kindle (or kindle keyboard to be precise) is a great device with, among other things, a unique feature of free 3G connectivity around the globe.
* there is already a chinese OS for that kindle which overcomes some limitations of the original software
* so, i was only wondering why isn't there enough interest from the community. none of the replies really answers this question. neither does yours. it just states there's no interest. that's so obvious. the question is: why?
but nevermind, i consider this issue closed.
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how on earth would the kindle benefit from any modding, really though.. total waste of time for everyone involved.
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yes, that's a proper question, at last.
the chinese OS provides support for other file formats, like DjVu which the original OS doesn't support. great option, if you ask me - i have dozens of books in that format.
my interest is in making use of the free 3G connectivity. for example, for a more convenient email reading. when you're on the go, on roaming somewhere, and there's no other internet connection, this can really save your day.
If you look at devices listed on XDA, they are versatile. While there is custom firmware for the normal Kindle, the device's hardware is not really as versatile as a smartphone or any Android-based tablet. The first clue is the screen. It is a simple black-and-white display, something that does not hold much appeal to the enthusiasts on this forum. Also, because of this simple display, the normal Kindle does not have to be very powerful for the purposes it is intended to fulfill, so, it wasn't packed with hardware intended to run an operating system like Android.
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yes, that's a proper question, at last.
the chinese OS provides support for other file formats, like DjVu which the original OS doesn't support. great option, if you ask me - i have dozens of books in that format.
my interest is in making use of the free 3G connectivity. for example, for a more convenient email reading. when you're on the go, on roaming somewhere, and there's no other internet connection, this can really save your day.
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Why didn't you just say all this to begin with?
You could have explained all this instead of saying "nice excuses".
I would wager the reason most of us don't care, is because even if it is smaller, our phones do just fine to read and type/swype out a few emails.
You complain about lack of decent reasons and what not, but never really explained what you wanted or why you wanted it till now. You could have saved yourself a lot of trouble if you just said why you wanted it instead of making us guess.
So whats your excuse for not outright saying what you wanted?
Snow_fox, normally, if you have nothing constructive to say on a given subject, you don't say anything.
Hi! I'm about to buy a tablet next week. It's partly for my personal use, but also for educational use for my daughter (18 months now) and general use for my wife.
I've narrowed my choices down to this one and iPad 3.. I already own a Galaxy S2 and a Nexus S, and enjoy Android a lot, but what my concern is, and my reason for considering the iPad 3 is that I'm not sure how good the app market is for tablets.. I've never had a chance to play with one except from in the store, and they dont have it enabled for accessing the Play Store..
Hardware-wise, although the iPad has a better screen, I find the Note to be more impressive.. And the 4:3 format on the iPad is not very appealing to me.. The extra resolution on the iPad might make it great for e-books, but watching a movie or playing with apps might not make much of a difference between the two.. the movies will be limited to 720p anyway as it's more than good enough on a 10 inch screen.. I'm not big on e-books so I will probably never read a book on it.
Software-wise, I hate iTunes so obviously the Note has the advantage here as it doesnt require any software on the computer.. I'm not gonna enter into an iOS vs Android discussion here, so lets just conclude that both iOS and Android are good OS's that are capable of doing what I require from them.
And then finally we come to the point where I'm stuck and makes it hard to choose: APPS..
How good is the app-market on android for tablets? which has the best app market for tablets? The iPad or the Note?
Is there any good educational apps for kids available on Play Store? Does any of these make use of the S Pen?
Does the S Pen have any good apps available in the Play Store, on top of the ones that come preloaded on the Note?
Hope to get some objective replies here.. I'm asking here and not on a Apple-forum as the iSheeps would automatically just say iPad, even if the Note could get you a cup of coffee and read you next weeks lottery numbers......
Lars
Have you searched the forum? This question has been discussed extensively.
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Hi! I'm about to buy a tablet next week. It's partly for my personal use, but also for educational use for my daughter (18 months now) and general use for my wife.
I've narrowed my choices down to this one and iPad 3.. I already own a Galaxy S2 and a Nexus S, and enjoy Android a lot, but what my concern is, and my reason for considering the iPad 3 is that I'm not sure how good the app market is for tablets.. I've never had a chance to play with one except from in the store, and they dont have it enabled for accessing the Play Store..
Hardware-wise, although the iPad has a better screen, I find the Note to be more impressive.. And the 4:3 format on the iPad is not very appealing to me.. The extra resolution on the iPad might make it great for e-books, but watching a movie or playing with apps might not make much of a difference between the two.. the movies will be limited to 720p anyway as it's more than good enough on a 10 inch screen.. I'm not big on e-books so I will probably never read a book on it.
Software-wise, I hate iTunes so obviously the Note has the advantage here as it doesnt require any software on the computer.. I'm not gonna enter into an iOS vs Android discussion here, so lets just conclude that both iOS and Android are good OS's that are capable of doing what I require from them.
And then finally we come to the point where I'm stuck and makes it hard to choose: APPS..
How good is the app-market on android for tablets? which has the best app market for tablets? The iPad or the Note?
Is there any good educational apps for kids available on Play Store? Does any of these make use of the S Pen?
Does the S Pen have any good apps available in the Play Store, on top of the ones that come preloaded on the Note?
Hope to get some objective replies here.. I'm asking here and not on a Apple-forum as the iSheeps would automatically just say iPad, even if the Note could get you a cup of coffee and read you next weeks lottery numbers......
Lars
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The tablet apps on Android are sufficient enough. There's just about an android equivalent or better for most IOS apps. There are tons of educational apps for Android. Best thing is most of them are free. Or at least have free versions for you to try out. There are some educational apps that make use of S pen. But I would let your child(18 months) grasp using finger for tablet use before S pen. I have a 2yrs.old. she just wants to grab the pen and smash it into the screen...lol. they are to young, IMO, to realize how to be gentle with pen and tablet use. These tablets can be great educational tools though.
There are alot more apps than what comes pre-installed that make use of the S Pen. There's a preloaded app called S suggest I believe, that you can see alot of those apps in one place. S PEN APPS THAT IS.
Since you already accustomed to Android, go for t eNlte 10.1. Its an excellent tablet experience out the box. Plus it does way more than we're discussing. Ex, universal remote(IR blaster built in), watching movies, drawing, photo editing, writing notes, stories, brainstorming, gaming, productive things, etc.. I briefly thought about getting an ipad3 at first, then I remembered how locked down it was and how boring using it was. I grew tired of the OS. All I did was jailbreak and mod it like crazy to be as close to android experience as I could get.
I recommend the Note 10.1 over ipad3 anyday.
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The tablet apps on Android are sufficient enough. There's just about an android equivalent or better for most IOS apps. There are tons of educational apps for Android. Best thing is most of them are free. Or at least have free versions for you to try out. There are some educational apps that make use of S pen. But I would let your child(18 months) grasp using finger for tablet use before S pen. I have a 2yrs.old. she just wants to grab the pen and smash it into the screen...lol. they are to young, IMO, to realize how to be gentle with pen and tablet use. These tablets can be great educational tools though.
There are alot more apps than what comes pre-installed that make use of the S Pen. There's a preloaded app called S suggest I believe, that you can see alot of those apps in one place. S PEN APPS THAT IS.
Since you already accustomed to Android, go for t eNlte 10.1. Its an excellent tablet experience out the box. Plus it does way more than we're discussing. Ex, universal remote(IR blaster built in), watching movies, drawing, photo editing, writing notes, stories, brainstorming, gaming, productive things, etc.. I briefly thought about getting an ipad3 at first, then I remembered how locked down it was and how boring using it was. I grew tired of the OS. All I did was jailbreak and mod it like crazy to be as close to android experience as I could get.
I recommend the Note 10.1 over ipad3 anyday.
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Nice to see all the x factor judges using our little baby ! Should help sammy shift some more units.
I'm also looking to buy soon. Does anyone think that the price will drop soon? Like around Black Friday? Should I wait it out, or is it too new to drop in price that quick?
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PsiPhiDan said:
I'm also looking to buy soon. Does anyone think that the price will drop soon? Like around Black Friday? Should I wait it out, or is it too new to drop in price that quick?
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Samsung controls the pricing through authorized resellers. And the cost to authorized resellers is pretty high compared to other manufacturers so non-authorized resellers are kind of hamstrung by what it costs them to by product from those who are authorized. Typically you'll see value- adds like bonus accessories and in-store credit. Fry's is/was running "$100 in-store credit" with purchase. If there's going to be Black Friday door busters I'd expect to see them on 7" tablets and those by Acer, Asus and Lenovo. Those brands were last year’s door busters. Not that there may not be "deals" of some kind on the Note but you'll be looking at $100 off potentially not half price.
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Have you searched the forum? This question has been discussed extensively.
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Hi, I've been reading note 10.1 forums over a month even though I'm not lucky enough to own one yet. I'm not gonna question you're knowledge and awareness of these forums contents since I can see that you (mitchellvii) are a lot more active in here than I am, but yet I'd like you to point a thread that is about what applications is there available on google play store that are fun and educational apps for children less than 2 years old. I've not found one. Yet there might be one of course but you said that this particular question has been asked extensively, which is a synonym to a phrase such as "many times" and "over and over again".
I agree that these forums share so much information that half of these questions asked here could've been avoided by reading a few pages, but I think that when you search these threads in your time of boredom or your interest - which is exactly what I do - you should read what it's about instead of only reading it's title which seems similar to those 10 other threads where you just adviced people about not to ask those same questions "extensively". And maybe, just maybe then give your "constructive" answer.
I think that this guy here asked a very good question concerning what use note 10.1 could have to children, even though I'm only 19 years old and don't have any little boys or girls.
Please don't hate me because of this post, I just expressed my opinion on this matter and I might be wrong. I just think that people asking polite and appropriate questions should be treated the same way if the exact questions hasn't been answered yet, shouldn't they?
I think my point here is quite good and it emphasizes good team spirit. But maybe it's just me. Is it? (((see I'm sad and hopeless and yet I have some sort or HOPE that I'm not alone when I think that internet forums shouldn't be a place where people say inappropriate and rude things just because they don't need to say it face to face cos it's easier to say those in here.)))
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cs_allu said:
I'd like you to point a thread that is about what applications is there available on google play store that are fun and educational apps for children less than 2 years old.
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Try this...
http://www.tablified.com/category/kids/
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Try this...
http://www.tablified.com/category/kids/
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Yes that's something to look for but can it be found here in xda galaxy note 10.1 forums? What I was wondering was if this questions has asked in here before. I don't know if you got this link from xda note 10.1 forums since I obviously didn't read them all before posting my opinion. But if a person comes on note 10.1 forum and asks a question that's not been asked and answered here, we should give him the answer if we have one and we should NOT expect him to google it if the questions is as ungooglable as this one is. Xda is about helping, not about "you can't ask that and if you ask you won't get an answer because someone asked something like that a month ago so you should already have an answer because someone gave it to someone on some thread some time ago". Right? We can't escape the fact that there will be "help me! Should i get ipad or note i don't know and i'm dying"- threads every god damn day but this one is not a thread like that. This one has a particular point focusing on children and I think it's a great perpective. And I do feel sorry now for the creator of this thread cos I just filled the first page with my thoughts sorry about that but I just thought it needed to be said somewhere.
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cs_allu said:
Yes that's something to look for but can it be found here in xda galaxy note 10.1 forums? What I was wondering was if this questions has asked in here before. I don't know if you got this link from xda note 10.1 forums since I obviously didn't read them all before posting my opinion. But if a person comes on note 10.1 forum and asks a question that's not been asked and answered here, we should give him the answer if we have one and we should NOT expect him to google it if the questions is as ungooglable as this one is. Xda is about helping, not about "you can't ask that and if you ask you won't get an answer because someone asked something like that a month ago so you should already have an answer because someone gave it to someone on some thread some time ago". Right? We can't escape the fact that there will be "help me! Should i get ipad or note i don't know and i'm dying"- threads every god damn day but this one is not a thread like that. This one has a particular point focusing on children and I think it's a great perpective. And I do feel sorry now for the creator of this thread cos I just filled the first page with my thoughts sorry about that but I just thought it needed to be said somewhere.
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What you're looking for doesn't exist. But after you've done the research it would be great if you could post your results to help others in the future.
BarryH_GEG said:
What you're looking for doesn't exist. But after you've done the research it would be great if you could post your results to help others in the future.
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I'm not quite sure what you're saying? I'm not looking for anything. In my first post I replied to mitchellvii that he's not actually helping anyone which should be the point in here. If you read my posts I think you'll see I don't currently need any help and I'm not looking for anything. Excuse me if I didn't catch your point on your last post but please explain me if you think I missed something which is quite possible since english is not my best language.
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cs_allu said:
I'm not quite sure what you're saying? I'm not looking for anything. In my first post I replied to mitchellvii that he's not actually helping anyone which should be the point in here. If you read my posts I think you'll see I don't currently need any help and I'm not looking for anything. Excuse me if I didn't catch your point on your last post but please explain me if you think I missed something which is quite possible since english is not my best language.
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Typically forums like XDA are very general. What you're asking about is very specific. Also, at least in my time here, there hasn't been a lot of focus on mobile devices being used by children. So if you're looking for information I don't think you'll find anything specifc enough to meet your needs. If you're asking if there's a need I'd say yes, but it would be of interest to a small subset of the community. Hope that helps.
cs_allu said:
I'm not quite sure what you're saying? I'm not looking for anything. In my first post I replied to mitchellvii that he's not actually helping anyone which should be the point in here. If you read my posts I think you'll see I don't currently need any help and I'm not looking for anything. Excuse me if I didn't catch your point on your last post but please explain me if you think I missed something which is quite possible since english is not my best language.
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Oh and I wasn't looking for a thread concerning this matter cos I thought from the beginning that it doesn't exist, so I asked mitchellvii to point one which he obviously hasn't been able to do yet. My purpose was to tell someone who just replied to a unigue question - "there is plenty of other questions like this one." - to go find another one if there's so many of them. Okay?
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cs_allu said:
Oh and I wasn't looking for a thread concerning this matter cos I thought from the beginning that it doesn't exist, so I asked mitchellvii to point one which he obviously hasn't been able to do yet. My purpose was to tell someone who just replied to a unigue question - "there is plenty of other questions like this one." - to go find another one if there's so many of them. Okay?
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I know where Mitch was coming from. Just today there were three threads started besides your all asking "should I buy a Note?" That in addition to others that were already open. His answer assumed yours was a question already asked but yours was specifc to children. Nobody should be offended. Hopefully you'll get the Note and someday have children you can hand it down to.
cs_allu said:
Oh and I wasn't looking for a thread concerning this matter cos I thought from the beginning that it doesn't exist, so I asked mitchellvii to point one which he obviously hasn't been able to do yet. My purpose was to tell someone who just replied to a unigue question - "there is plenty of other questions like this one." - to go find another one if there's so many of them. Okay?
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Ironically, I find your posts to be even less helpful than the poster you originally replied to. JMO
cs_allu said:
Oh and I wasn't looking for a thread concerning this matter cos I thought from the beginning that it doesn't exist, so I asked mitchellvii to point one which he obviously hasn't been able to do yet. My purpose was to tell someone who just replied to a unigue question - "there is plenty of other questions like this one." - to go find another one if there's so many of them. Okay?
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First of all you need to chill out. As Barry said we get 2 or 3 these "Why should I buy this tablet?" threads each day.
The OP didn't mention his interest in educational apps until about the 8th paragraph down. 90% of his question has been asked and answered hundreds of times. Thus it is pretty clear to me the OP did not spend 10 seconds searching for an answer prior to asking, otherwise he would have just asked about educational apps without the rest.
Read then ask.
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I have requested the Mods to place a stickie about this at the top of the page so we can hopefully cut down on the duplicate threads.
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Well, I think I made a better thread by describing my situation, rather than simply starting a thread with: "Are there any educational apps for this thing?"
You say: read, then ask
I say: Read the whole initial post before answering, not just the first line.
And for the record, I have been searching and reading a lot before posting here, but didn't really find any clear and good information regarding my question..
Anyway, none the less, I got some good answers here and the link that was posted was very helpful.. It really makes it easier to decide, and I'm 90% sure that I will go for the Note.. Thanks!
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Samsung controls the pricing through authorized resellers. And the cost to authorized resellers is pretty high compared to other manufacturers so non-authorized resellers are kind of hamstrung by what it costs them to by product from those who are authorized. Typically you'll see value- adds like bonus accessories and in-store credit. Fry's is/was running "$100 in-store credit" with purchase. If there's going to be Black Friday door busters I'd expect to see them on 7" tablets and those by Acer, Asus and Lenovo. Those brands were last year’s door busters. Not that there may not be "deals" of some kind on the Note but you'll be looking at $100 off potentially not half price.
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So would you suggest buying at a certain location in case the price drops? Is Amazon a good choice for purchasing this? I get 5% cash back if I buy with my Discover card starting Monday (online purchases). I hear Best Buy is good too for their return policy. I've always loved Amazon for no-hassle returns though. Any advice?
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PsiPhiDan said:
So would you suggest buying at a certain location in case the price drops? Is Amazon a good choice for purchasing this? I get 5% cash back if I buy with my Discover card starting Monday (online purchases). I hear Best Buy is good too for their return policy. I've always loved Amazon for no-hassle returns though. Any advice?
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I think the lowest price last year for the OG G-Tab 10.1 over Black Friday was $349 vs. $499 retail. I wouldn't expect any better on the Note. But hey, these are crazy times so who knows what retailers will do to bring people in this year. Price protection's usually 30 days so you'd have to wait until the end of October to have the reseller match any holiday discounts. If you know anyone that's a Best Buy Silver Rewards member I think they get 60 days price protection.
toenail_flicker said:
Ironically, I find your posts to be even less helpful than the poster you originally replied to. JMO
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That's true but when someone would lighten up and think about what I said then there would be even more helpful posts
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This question has been asked here (http://www.xda-developers.com/android/from-the-bbq-omnirom/) but seems didn't get a reply from mods.
what makes it so special compared to other ROMs like AOKP/PA which are just threads in the device forums. Pulser_g2 has mentioned transparency in another post in the past but this forum section seems to go above forum rules. thanks
You know i've been wondering that myself...not that i care really. I'm more excited about wanting to port it lol ...will still be nice to know
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As far as I know it doesn't. The main Omni sub forum is only here for better communication between the devs and its community otherwise as far as I know the ROMs itself will be in their own respected device forums.
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then why not just create the relevant threads on the supported devices?
I never saw a dev/maintainer having problems communicating with its users on the device threads.
honestly does it really matter? this is how it should be for cynogen/aokp/paranoid as well since they are the most popular. will make communication and guides a whole lot easier.
perhaps this is xda way of going down that isle
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My guess (purely a guess) is because there is meant to be more community discussion around new features. CM seems to just be lead devs in private discussions about upcoming stuff, the rest of us know about it when the commits start to roll.
This sort of "upcoming feature" talk is more appropriate in a central forum, rather than spread across x amount of individual device threads that noone will ever read. The "Feature Development" sub also sort of confirms this a bit.
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mrjayviper said:
then why not just create the relevant threads on the supported devices?
I never saw a dev/maintainer having problems communicating with its users on the device threads.
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The plan is for these forums to be for coordination between developers on device-independent stuff. I also hope to have, eventually, a "neutral ground" where the leads of various projects can communicate. There are always going to be things (usually differences in UI/UX direction) that drive the existence of multiple projects - but there are a lot of areas where the work done is common and I think that the various projects can do better communicating.
I would not have any problem with other firmware projects having coordination forums for "core" work here on XDA.
As I've said in other posts - this is the very earliest stages of things, and there are still a lot of details to work out. There's a possibility that the current "omni" forums could change drastically in structure as things get fleshed out better.
Thanks Entropy. clear and concise. couldn't ask for more. all power to the new team/ROM. Competition is ALWAYS good.
mrjayviper said:
Thanks Entropy. clear and concise. couldn't ask for more. all power to the new team/ROM. Competition is ALWAYS good.
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It is an experiment - while we can sit around at XDA Towers and come up with wonderful ideas of how to improve things for developers, it's important to see how they work.
In this case we can see how the concept of having a centralised area for non device specific discussions works. It's easier to try it out on something that can be undone if needed, which is starting off slowly.
If that works out, I don't think it takes a genius to imagine the direction that we would look towards in the future.
It's worth noting that Rootzwiki sort of has a similar structure for AOKP and a few others under the "Team Forums" section. Definitely seems like a good structure to experiment with. I know a lot of ROMs tried running their own forums but the problem is that everyone is here and no one wants to make a bunch of new accounts, so this makes more sense in the long run.
Sveke said:
It has a cooler wizard crew and a better wizard beats mix tape
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I think what you mean to say its the bonnie wizzer and the king grux grew crew!
I can't believe you actually said mix tape. I have a pair of Converse that say mix tape.
From the VERY little I've seen about this rom it's reminding me of SalvageMod, which I really really liked.
interloper said:
I think what you mean to say its the bonnie wizzer and the king grux grew crew!
I can't believe you actually said mix tape. I have a pair of Converse that say mix tape.
From the VERY little I've seen about this rom it's reminding me of SalvageMod, which I really really liked.
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It was a workaholics reference, obviously you didn't get it.
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Don't want to date myself, but we had a similar forum back in the Motorola heyday.
Back than seem editing and various other methods of modding
various Motorola phones, starting with the Motorola v3 were discussed.
It worked very well than and should now. Motorola released different phones,
but they all basically had the same but updated firmware.
I am the Administrator of one of the forums that still survives, but not much activity these days.
SEE HERE