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All ROM cookers: Please torrent your ROM´s! No Megaupload please

Hi
For many of us, we live behind a digital wall called censorship. And we happen to have to use tools like TOR etc to get access to many homepages. Unfortunately that means that sites like Megaupload thinks all of us TOR users etc are the same downloader, so they tell us we can not use their servers.
Ergo, many many many of us can not D/L your ROM´s.
If you post new ROM´s, please submit torrents for the billions of us that does not have a free internet.
Sincerely yours - one of the billions of blocked Megaupload users.

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Great idea!
I LOL:ed at the title of this thread, it sounds like an adult movie .. the ROM cockers! =)

801run said:
Great idea!
I LOL:ed at the title of this thread, it sounds like an adult movie .. the ROM cockers! =)
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plus 1 id be pissed if i could not download.

This thread has to win the "Thread title of the year award"

Plus one... i hate megaupload but haven't choice.

There are other solutions, but they are not freee....

A great idea. It's something I've thought about before but, thinking about it, you would have to rely on everyone to seed the files to make sure we all had (pretty much) instant access.
This is my understanding of it anyways.
Just throwing it out there but another area on the forums for torrents would be sweet but I can't imagine the work that would create!
Much respect to all Devs and Site Admin.

I agree, and love the title of this thread, hail ROM Cockers!!!

That's not ideal. Not everyone has the bandwidth to seed a single file. And like majority of torrent users they do not seed at all.
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sign +1 ololo

i won't be downloading from torrents. but, why the hassle when v-b-n has a server where cookers can put their files? and he's not saying "pay if you want to use it" it was free last time i checked. So, instead of inventing new solutions, use what this forum has to offer. And, if you want to improve, donate to him, so he can maintain the server

HAHAHA! Rom cockers!

Winner
+1, Great idea.
I've often wondered why torrents have not been utilised here. Considering that we're all phone enthusiasts here it's fairly likely that the majority of us are general tech enthusiasts too and therefor would have a decent collective bandwidth to serve these ROMs. Personally I have quite a considerably large pipe and I'm more than happy to seed anything that is legally distributable.

I think the argument you are making here is valid, but torrents is by no means a good way to distribute builds as they are frequently upgraded. You'll end up with hundreds of dead torrents in a week...
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Rom builders already have the VBN server with direct downloading so, no need for torrent nor useless miseplled thraeds

I find within 24 hours the VBN site is overloaded and no more download slots avail.
However I am willing to host a tracker server however I have very limited bandwidth for uploads so speed will struggle at the start.
I am however willing to build it on a linux based server (Eg LAMP) as as first pass and then if someone can organize hosting of a smallish VM then the entire VM can be moved from there onwards
It should be possible to script in a way that a cook only has to upload his rom to the site via FTP and it will automatically create a tracker/torrent from it.
Lots of "maybe's" and "should's" but willing to help where I can.

I am 100% against it!!! I do not like torrents from the day one and if someone wants them - well, post them yourself and contribute a group that wants to see torrents.
Megaupload is much more reliable and if you cannot wait 40-50 seconds to download the build, then too bad...
Sorry - Im not trying to be negative but it is pretty selfish to make a thread and state "All ROM cockers: Please torrent your ROM´s! No Megaupload please" ... no go AT ALL!!!
So - I am the "minus one" ...

I think they are saying that Megaupload blocks then due to national firewall and work arounds?

I agree with not liking torrent at all. Megaupload is as good as it gets with downloading. Why cant you guys use Megaupload?
I also do agree that VBN is over capacity most of the time, which will not let you download if it is.

Host Roms Via torrent

Greetings all,
I'm sure this is has been said before, but how about people hosting roms via bit-torrent? I have a great connection....I figure hosting the rom via bit-torrent would be better than rapid share ect, ect, ect....just a suggestion..

Holy crap I had this thought the other day also! I think it would be a good addition to cyanogen considering how much bandwidth they constantly use. I guess in my example though it would be tricky with the nightlies. Give an opportunity for the community who utilizes it to give back though. Good post

I appreciate where you're heart's at but without your very own 100mbps server and a reputation for uptime you're not going to generate much interest. People want direct links not torrents. They'd prefer rapidshare over torrents.
But your offer is nonetheless appreciated by those of us who know that while roms may be free bandwidth is a commodity.

Wrong. I'd imagine most people on XDA know how to use bittorrent. And if they did, they'd be crazy to prefer rapid share which has wait times. The best thing to do would be to provide links to both, and let us decide. I for one know what I would pick.

Major problem, OP: Most American ISP's throttle the crap out of torrents. Comcast will take a torrent with 10,000 seeds which on other ISP's will see >5,000KBps, but on Comcast or AT&T, it will crawl to 15KBps.
d0ugie said:
I appreciate where you're heart's at but without your very own 100mbps server and a reputation for uptime you're not going to generate much interest. People want direct links not torrents. They'd prefer rapidshare over torrents.
But your offer is nonetheless appreciated by those of us who know that while roms may be free bandwidth is a commodity.
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*cough* http://goo-inside.me/
Snipa and I are always looking for more ROMs to host. Devs are free to PM me, and I'll either get them set up with an FTP account, or rsync (rsync preferred).

I would definitely participate in sharing these via torrent. I doubt that a dev will post a torrent link up, but a user could download, make the torrent, upload it to somewhere free like heet and then PM the dev the link and then maybe he will post it up as an alternate source of downloading. The only problem with this is unless you have a seedbox, most people will probably hit and run making download speeds terribly slow. If someone has a 100mbit seedbox then I am all for hosting torrents to download.

d0ugie said:
I appreciate where you're heart's at but without your very own 100mbps server and a reputation for uptime you're not going to generate much interest. People want direct links not torrents. They'd prefer rapidshare over torrents.
But your offer is nonetheless appreciated by those of us who know that while roms may be free bandwidth is a commodity.
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rapidshare sucks ! id take a torrent over rapidshare

An idea would also be to add ALL the possible mods and themes.
For example:
Torrent contents:
MikFroYo 4.5
Cyan Dragon Theme
Cyan Flower Theme
Cyan Skull Theme
all the add ons
Matte Blues
etc etc etc
It'd be a huge download but with the links in the torrent description to all the various threads they came from, newbies and lazy people wouldn't have to browse the forum for days and days to find everything.
Plus, if someone made a super torrent with all the roms and another one with all the themes, one with all the kernels, etc (with links in the description), one could back-up our entire section of the forums.
I'm pretty good with torrents but my uptime is crap, otherwise I'd love to help!

i would really prefer a usenet post over a torrent, but id take a torrent over rapidshare anyday. i always wondered why people don't use filedropper.com instead of rapidshare. it's free an no queue times.
this could be done by the ROM users as a way to give back. seed a torrent.
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drmacinyasha said:
Major problem, OP: Most American ISP's throttle the crap out of torrents. Comcast will take a torrent with 10,000 seeds which on other ISP's will see >5,000KBps, but on Comcast or AT&T, it will crawl to 15KBps.
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I have Comcast, and this doesn't happen to me. :|

Torrents are a sure way to get a cease and desist from my ISP.

huskerpat said:
Torrents are a sure way to get a cease and desist from my ISP.
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Only if your downloading music.... or videos. There are legal uses for them

Torrenting is legal.
Torrenting copyrighted items is illegal.
I would be willing to seed this every day, if we ever do it.

Im with this plan as well. I hate rapid share, etc.......

OneStepAhead said:
i would really prefer a usenet post over a torrent, but id take a torrent over rapidshare anyday. i always wondered why people don't use filedropper.com instead of rapidshare. it's free an no queue times.
this could be done by the ROM users as a way to give back. seed a torrent.
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Oh, I'd prefer usenet over torrents also, but who really knows about usenet? Next thing would be, hey...how about IRC.....
I'd be more than willing to seed, I have an old ubuntu server with rtorrent on it....it's not much, but I'm sure I could seed the hell out of some rom's

also, i would have to give a +1 to filedropper. Everyone should try it. I love the 1mb /second downloads!

muppetman462 said:
but who really knows about usenet?
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Both of you forgot the first rule of usenet.

Usenet is dying.

I see this being a good option. Mirrors aren't always available. Sites go down, or throttle bandwith. Rapidshare and some others have horrible ads that even Firefox with ABP doesn't always catch (it gets 99% but still).
And like it was said before, you can have one torrent with the ROM, kernel, theme, add-ons and more. If you don't want a certain theme then mark it to not download (although it would be nice if you did as long as you will seed for others).
I do see this being an issue for CM nightlies so I guess this doesn't even affect me that much.
PS: downloading music and movies via torrent aren't technically illegal, either (as long as you own a physical copy of the music or movie). I have gotten a few e-mails from Comcast and all they ever say is to stop SHARING the file. They can only get you for uploading them (because they can't prove digitally that you don't have the CD or DVD at home).

Any decent apps to download torrents on your phone? Never thought about doing it but i guess its possible.

Hosting Ideas? (Collaborate!)

Recently I've noticed that the free uploading websites have been going down and/or uploads being removed... Many of the ROM's are being pulled down. Well it's time to find a new way to host the files for free...

Alaq said:
Recently I've noticed that the free uploading websites have been going down and/or uploads being removed... Many of the ROM's are being pulled down. Well it's time to find a new way to host the files for free... I would say make a free account on 000webhost, upload a mini site describing your ROM, and upload your ROM. 000webhost gives 1.5GB of space. But others may have better ways so collaborate.
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You can't do that, it goes agaisn't the rules of 000Webhost.

TravisAntonio said:
You can't do that, it goes agaisn't the rules of 000Webhost.
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Hmmm, I thought that I read that somewhere... Oh well, like I said collaborate, how are you gonna share your custom ROMs now?

So I'vo got a hosting space that is used to host an HD2 rom. I don't have limitations in terms of space and bandwidth but I don't want use for now...Maybe later...
How about 4shared, mediafire ?
The other solution would be to everybody send 1 € or $1 and to acquire an unlimited hosting plan with access to the devs only...

Why aren't people just using the torrent system? You can torrent from just about any modern device.
Its free, and if bandwidth is an issue for a dev, you can throttle upload speed easily and let initial leechers pick up the slack.
Not to sound sarcastic, but torrenting was made in large part FOR collaberation and sundry, not just pirating. Ironic that we've shifted back to reliance on download server services.
If folks lose the "hit and run" mentality propogated by Megafileserveuploadetc sites we can simplify this entire dynamic drastically.
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XDA should open torrent tracket
Sounds funny but that's not bad idea, although that would work only for new/popular files...

+1 Bit Torrent... I'll seed!

im not sure why i didnt think of it either, i am not going to lie that i have been a tad illegal here and there, but i was upset about some legal files getting hit in the cross fire, i have a usb 3.0 1TB drive for my files and a 50 DL 15 UL connection with an always on connection, ill torrent my ass off knowing i wont get a letter for doing something illegal

I dont find it really a huge issue, since there are still many ways to get files if you really need or want them. Plus you can share public files from dropbox which is a fairly good way as long as you have the storage and a decent upload speed.

Where to Host android files
Through the grape vine i have learned of a new site set not yet open but sounds great for developers. its androidromhosting.com , its suppose to open soon and specialize in hosting all things android for the community, developers will have opportunities for their own portals and all kinds of cool stuff. I know some of the people involved and I will update here as soon as it opens !!

Alaq!
can you reupload fastboot wipe? all the links are dead

Downloading ROM and other stuff

Hey Guys,
I'm a long time lurker around here, and I'm downloading roms from time to time for my SGS.
I can't start expressing how much I love this community and how I believe that it impacted the Android platform as a whole.
My question/suggestion is regarding the files that developer are uploading to various free hosting services - most of these places are unreliable, hard to navigate, filled with crappy advertisement that only tries to confuse users to download their crapware filled with malware, and generally a shady business that no one really wants to visit, but we must because we need to download 100mb+ of files now and then.
The question/suggestion is: Why aren't you guys using BitTorrent? Right off the bat BitTorrent seems perfectly fitted to the needs of the community - sharing large files across a large number of users minimizing the bandwidth usage overall.
In my opinion there should be a public tracker dedicated for XDA devs, it could be easily integrated into the forums in terms of getting information about a file and how much people downloaded/used it, and could provide an invaluable service both to lurkers like me, and to the devs who seek to expand their reach.
Have you guys tried using bittorrent and found that it's not adequate? or is it something that simply wasn't an issue for most of you?
BitTorrent is easy as hell for most users, it's extremely fast, very stable, supported on any platform, and generally designed for cases exactly like XDA devs where one needs to transmit a large file across a large number of users.
Are you willing to try this? I suggest the The Pirate Bay as the first stop [although it might be a problem because it is blocked in some place] until it's proven to be useful, at which point I'm sure someone will pick up the glove and create a tracker dedicated to XDA devs.

Some use torrents, but usually in addition to other links. I agree with you for the most part, but there will always be more users who have trouble with this compared to a regular link. That being said, I hardly have much trouble with hosting sites, mediafire can be a bit of a chore sometimes, but it always works.
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SGS3 Roms Distribution via DropBox

Please give me your input on this idea aimed at ROM Developers of the SGS3.
Since the Samsung Galaxy S3 comes with 50gb of dropbox space for two years, could you rom developers please use dropbox folder sharing as a way of distributing your roms?
Sometimes getting roms from mirrors and ad-filled file hosting sites can get really annoying. It would be really convenient if we could just join dropbox folders from a rom developer and have really easy access to roms. Devs simply need to post the folder link on their rom detail post and people can join anytime. Add folder restrictions so only the folder owner (in this case the rom developer) can modify the files. Limit your shared folder to the latest builds (or two) of your roms so people that have joined wont eat up too much of their DropBox quota. I would think like 1gb max per shared folder.
Since Dropbox is hosted on Amazon S3 infrasfructure, we would all be getting really fast speeds when downloading roms! Get rid of all those "60 seconds wait". Hopefully this method will also save developers from the crazy costs of hosting.
I dont know about you guys but my dropbox is nowhere close to be using 50gb! I wouldnt mind using 10gb of that for roms!
I also know that we have the awesome rom manager app but even that mostly links to slow mirrors. Please chime in and let me know what you think.
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I think drop box stops excessive downloading like photo bucket. It is great if you PM someone the link but they don't like excessive downloading. Correct me if I am wrong.
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I think drop box stops excessive downloading like photo bucket. It is great if you PM someone the link but they don't like excessive downloading. Correct me if I am wrong.
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I think thats if you direct link to a file thats made public. But what about joining folders (which would eat up your own quota).
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1) Dropbox would nuke the link in no time due to traffic
2) inviting everyone who wants it to a folder would both be a HUGE pita also would break XDA rules RE direct links.
If you want file hosting, one of the best is dev-host, also XDA has a relationship with them, so if you are a RD, RT, or RC you get a free premium account, see here.
There is also Jumbofiles though they have issues at times due to load.
Also if you are a somewhat notable developer, you can sign up for a Goo.im account here.
I could go on, but there are tons of good hosts.
One of the problems is that stock SGS3 roms are HUGE (600-800meg?), so more traditional hosts wont do.
Dont you just wish we still had megaupload?

veyka said:
1) Dropbox would nuke the link in no time due to traffic
2) inviting everyone who wants it to a folder would both be a HUGE pita also would break XDA rules RE direct links.
If you want file hosting, one of the best is dev-host, also XDA has a relationship with them, so if you are a RD, RT, or RC you get a free premium account, see here.
There is also Jumbofiles though they have issues at times due to load.
Also if you are a somewhat notable developer, you can sign up for a Goo.im account here.
I could go on, but there are tons of good hosts.
One of the problems is that stock SGS3 roms are HUGE (600-800meg?), so more traditional hosts wont do.
Dont you just wish we still had megaupload?
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Huh? Not questioning your information...but wholly crap! 800mb? I thought motorola was bad lol... cm9 can be made to fit under 100mb... 700mb of bloat huh?
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Ah ok! Thanks for the explanation! That means this dropbox idea is pretty much out then. I think a lot more rom developers need to know about that developer hosting site and the free premium account perks. After all this thread was a result of my frustration of downloading a 600mb rom for 2 hours and timing out (the recent Wanamlite rom for sgs3)
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benefit14snake said:
Huh? Not questioning your information...but wholly crap! 800mb? I thought motorola was bad lol... cm9 can be made to fit under 100mb... 700mb of bloat huh?
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"Downloading: I9300XXALF2_I9300OXAALF2_BTU.zip | 753.5 MB"
Its just crazy, with touchwizz you are basically getting a second whole framework on top of the google stuff.
Even "lite" roms don't seem to be able to get much below 200megs, and lots are in the 600meg region.
Current SGS2 CM9 roms are 128megs, which is "large" compared to CM7 at 101megs give or take but still!
The host info was on the portal, not much more you can do to bring peoples attention to things.
Maybe if you see a dev having issues with finding hosting, point them at that portal post, even if they are not an RD/etc the free dev host stuff is good (if not great for the SGS3 as the limit is 512MB ) (the XDA premium thing is 10 files at up to 10gig each!)