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Just sent my HD2 away for repair after only 32 days of use. Was working "fine" then all of a sudden the touch screen stopped working. tried reboot, hard reset and reflash without any change. to top it off O2 are no help. Had an iPhone for 18 months and had one or two issues but apple replaced the handset on the spot TWICE. The second time they replaced it the handset was 30 days out of warranty. O2 refused to replace the handset as its more that 28 days old! (4 days older!)
Hope when the phone comes back that this doesnt happen again otherwise i will be selling the HD2 and going back to the iPhone.
Has anyone else had similar issues?
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Just sent my HD2 away for repair after only 32 days of use. Was working "fine" then all of a sudden the touch screen stopped working. tried reboot, hard reset and reflash without any change. to top it off O2 are no help. Had an iPhone for 18 months and had one or two issues but apple replaced the handset on the spot TWICE. The second time they replaced it the handset was 30 days out of warranty. O2 refused to replace the handset as its more that 28 days old! (4 days older!)
Hope when the phone comes back that this doesnt happen again otherwise i will be selling the HD2 and going back to the iPhone.
Has anyone else had similar issues?
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Sounds like your real problem is with O2. Sure, the phone stopped working, but you can't blame that for the crappy response you got from O2. This is obviously why everyone recommends you get insurance, but 32 days isn't acceptable. That's definitely a beef with O2.
holy **** the whole forum is filled with troubles of the HD2.
Cause people are stupid, not the HD2, not HTC and not MS.
In this case, the problem is O2. Again, not the HD2, not HTC, not MS. Faulty devices may happen, that happens to iPhones, Droids and all other devices as well and as often.
I'm soo tired of those threads. People complaining about the simplest things, always blaming HTC and MS for everything. The most stupid thing they do is praise Apple or Acer or whatever other manufacturer, when in fact their phones have so much more problems (hairline cracks, scratched Apples, anyone?).
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holy **** the whole forum is filled with troubles of the HD2.
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you think its bad here? just go have a look at the iphone section at macforums (or any section for that matter) and tell me if its just as bad here then!
BTW , hello everybody! new here (registered long ago but never posted) and getting my HD2 at the end of the month. can't wait
Mine is not UNreliable. It is very reliable in fact.
I have owned multiple HTC's and I think the only one that did leave me sometimes was the Touch Pro.
My HD and the HD2 are my most reliable phones ever owned.
It's the most reliable phone I ever had. Much more reliable than my iPhone 3G.
It's also the highest quality phone I ever had. No stupid shiny Apple on the back that gets scratched even without ever putting it on hard surfaces.
It's also the most powerful phone I ever had. Doesn't lack basic features like Smart Dialing, BT transfers etc.
In short: It's the best phone I ever had. And I pretty much had them all.
you think its bad here? just go have a look at the iphone section at macforums (or any section for that matter) and tell me if its just as bad here then!
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Exactly like I said: Stupid people always blaming HTC and MS for the smallest issues while completely suppressing the fact that other phones from other manufacturers actually have HUUUGE issues compared to a few small glitches on the HD2.
I'm really so tired of this behavior.
I had handsets replaced after months of usage with o2. My previous phone orbit 2 has been replaced after 4 months of usage where scroll wheel broke.
Second time it was replaced a month before end of contract (17 months since I got it) when charging socket fell out. Yes it took a bit of time to send unit for inspection and get a reply what will happen (two weeks from posting to getting new one) but O2 side was quick.
Conversation:
"Hi my phone does not charge as charging socket fell out I need it replaced"
after that I gave my details
"Ok I will open a case for you and e-mail you details where to send phone for inspection"
"Thank you"
Phone sent and done.
plexat said:
Mine is not UNreliable. It is very reliable in fact.
I have owned multiple HTC's and I think the only one that did leave me sometimes was the Touch Pro.
My HD and the HD2 are my most reliable phones ever owned.
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You can't have owned your HD2 much more than a month, so it's a little early to be calling it one of your most reliable handsets ever.
dont get me wrong. I have had HTCs before and all have been fine. My issue is mainly with O2's service and secondly with the reliability of my HD2 which has so far been poor. Really hope it does prove itself to be a reliable handset after this issue as it is a joy to use when its working.
Think i have got used to getting instant replacements for the iPhone and not used to being stuck with a nokia 2760 loan fone.
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You can't have owned your HD2 much more than a month, so it's a little early to be calling it one of your most reliable handsets ever.
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He could be comparing it to the 1st month of the other handsets he owned. He didn't say.
i was wondering when a new thread with this topic is gonna be created. it was almost time ! in the world there are two extrems. iphone the most reliable phone and hd2 the most unreliable one. having that said nevertheless i would not change it with any other phones out there. there is a say where i am comming from: the greater your rooftop the more snow you will have to shovel. this is the most powerfull os for mobile devices. if you are used ti iphone then i would really stay by it..
and why do people mention the iphone when they are complaining about hd2? i dont get it
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It's the most reliable phone I ever had. Much more reliable than my iPhone 3G.
It's also the highest quality phone I ever had. No stupid shiny Apple on the back that gets scratched even without ever putting it on hard surfaces.
It's also the most powerful phone I ever had. Doesn't lack basic features like Smart Dialing, BT transfers etc.
In short: It's the best phone I ever had. And I pretty much had them all.
Exactly like I said: Stupid people always blaming HTC and MS for the smallest issues while completely suppressing the fact that other phones from other manufacturers actually have HUUUGE issues compared to a few small glitches on the HD2.
I'm really so tired of this behavior.
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A lot of the problems with the HD2 are indefensible actually mate. Sure other phones have problems too but we own HD2s....and that's what we're complaining about. I couldn't give two hoots if yours is perfect because mine isn't. I've had two....and am awaiting a doorstep swap tomorrow for my third handset. A catalogue of problems.
You misread my post. I said it's stupid complaining about glitches of the HD2 while suppressing the fact that other devices have much bigger issues (and their manufacturers do NOTHING about them, like the hairline cracks or scratched Apple logo on the iPhone).
So many threads where people blame HTC or MS for either isolated things like hardware faults or for their own stupidity, and at the same time hail Apple or others regardless of the fact that Apple's other companies' phones have a lot more issues.
I'm tired of those posts. And I couldn't give two hoots if your device is faulty, cause mine is perfect. So spare me your whining.
And by the way, I already have had my HD2 for exactly two months, that's enough to conclude that this is the most reliable smartphone ever.
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You misread my post. I said it's stupid complaining about glitches of the HD2 while suppressing the fact that other devices have much bigger issues (and their manufacturers do NOTHING about them, like the hairline cracks or scratched Apple logo on the iPhone).
So many threads where people blame HTC or MS for either isolated things like hardware faults or for their own stupidity, and at the same time hail Apple or others regardless of the fact that Apple's other companies' phones have a lot more issues.
I'm tired of those posts. And I couldn't give two hoots if your device is faulty, cause mine is perfect. So spare me your whining.
And by the way, I already have had my HD2 for exactly two months, that's enough to conclude that this is the most reliable smartphone ever.
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I had my Sony P1i for 26 months.....and had ZERO problems, so I would say currently it's the most reliable smartphone - certainly against your 2 month old HD2.
I said in my original post that it was the most reliable smartphone I ever had. Because it is.
stop complaining guys
NOM
nothing is perfect in this world. thats why XDA is here to make things almost perfect but "Rome is not built in a day friend" no smart phone was a huge hit out of the box.
if anyone cant wait / search / experiment this is not the right place
to be honest i will be getting my HD2 tomorrow but i had used all other HTC phones only because i know that XDA helps in almost every problem.i enjoy flashing roms every other day just finding the right one.
this forum, has been my favorite place. so many genious people are working for all of us to make things better
so not to be hard or hurt anyone , if u want to njy your HTC phone, please be patient, search and experiment.
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you think its bad here? just go have a look at the iphone section at macforums (or any section for that matter) and tell me if its just as bad here then!
BTW , hello everybody! new here (registered long ago but never posted) and getting my HD2 at the end of the month. can't wait
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I have a iphone 3gs and here are the complaints getting back:
scratched apple logo(happens to EVERY ONE) you wont be able to keep it scratchfree)
cracks in casing(about 30% of the users reporting this)
apple store approval team(they suck)
im member of 4 iphone forums and this forum got more problems then the iphone forums. Alhough stopid idiots always remain.
3 weeks ago there was a guy sending back his iphone because the backlight was to weak. He said he didnt try to fix it because he was still under warrenty. Lol...
Well, the HD2 definitely has less problems than the iPhone. And other than Apple, HTC is working on solutions.
The cracks and scratched logo were widely known problems of the iPhone 3G, and yet Apple shipped the iPhone 3GS in the same low quality casing. Quality-wise, iPhone vs. HD2 is like Dacia vs. Bugatti.
actually dacia aint too bad! but seriously, i still hear nothing but complaints from iPhone users and yet they will defend apple to the bitter end. Why? all they do is pump out poor quality expensive phones using yesterdays technology yet people still "would die to have one".
the iPhone is for people who dont know any better. HTC is for people who do know better.
EDIT: would just like to add that my Nokia 3310 that i have lying around is far more capable than the iPhone at actually doing what the apple products do, making and recieving calls. even in the most marginal of signals it naver fails to make or recieve a call.
I just wanted your guys opinion..
This phone is amazing but android puts out phones like every other day. This phone is probably the best android phone out now but do you think by the time our contracts are over ( 2 years for most of us) the phones will have become to much better they make our vibrant look like horse ****
i mean it happened with the g1
I believe this phone is good for one year or year and half cause 3.0 will last till 2012 since that will be the start of yearly major updates
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This happens with every phone, computer, car, toaster, and toilet paper. It's called innovation. So yeah, there will be better phones, probably the day after you buy the one you want.
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Of course that's going to happen. Technology is always evolving. Sure there will be a better phone a few months down the road, but there ALWAYS will be.
Like this phone, for example. Sure, T-Mo will probably have another (possibly better) phone out this fall. If I waited for that one, they'll announce the next big phone coming out this winter (example). Well why not just wait for the 'winter' phone? But before the 'winter' phone is released, they announce a 'spring' phone. Might as well wait a few more months for the 'spring' phone.
So some people will just keep waiting and waiting and waiting (for that NEXT superphone). That's why I went ahead and got the Vibrant. It's an amazing phone with (most of) the features i wanted.
Phones are like all other tech... There is always something better just around the corner. If you wait for it, you wind up never having anything.
Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you tomorrow...
I do also understand the OPs point and this phone has a good life span.
I honestly think the Vibrant will have long staying power. At this point I don't think (at least I hope so) screens will get any bigger. I think what you will start seeing is the CPUs getting faster and more storage. And obviously better cameras. As long as Samsung and xda support this phone you will be using it for a long time. Seeing as every USA carrier is getting a version of the Galaxy S it will be supported for a while. I mean look at the G1, its still going strong.
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Of course that's going to happen. Technology is always evolving. Sure there will be a better phone a few months down the road, but there ALWAYS will be.
Like this phone, for example. Sure, T-Mo will probably have another (possibly better) phone out this fall. If I waited for that one, they'll announce the next big phone coming out this winter (example). Well why not just wait for the 'winter' phone? But before the 'winter' phone is released, they announce a 'spring' phone. Might as well wait a few more months for the 'spring' phone.
So some people will just keep waiting and waiting and waiting (for that NEXT superphone). That's why I went ahead and got the Vibrant. It's an amazing phone with (most of) the features i wanted.
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You hit it right on the head. My contract has been up since December and I passed on the Nexus one hoping to get the best phone on the market. If you are not happy with your phone currently then you should buy the Vibrant! I feel bad for the people who keep waiting just like I did before!
There will always be a big feature upgrade in the 'next' phone. Bluetooth 3.0 is coming out in the future, there will probably be some new HDTV out technology, and who knows what else.
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You hit it right on the head. My contract has been up since December and I passed on the Nexus one hoping to get the best phone on the market. If you are not happy with your phone currently then you should buy the Vibrant! I feel bad for the people who keep waiting just like I did before!
There will always be a big feature upgrade in the 'next' phone. Bluetooth 3.0 is coming out in the future, there will probably be some new HDTV out technology, and who knows what else.
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don't we already have bluetooth 3.0?
zerostate said:
I just wanted your guys opinion..
This phone is amazing but android puts out phones like every other day. This phone is probably the best android phone out now but do you think by the time our contracts are over ( 2 years for most of us) the phones will have become to much better they make our vibrant look like horse ****
i mean it happened with the g1
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Actually I checked with Samsung. They told me no one is going to top this phone for about 10 years. You're fine.
All jokes aside, you must be a very young fellow not to see the repeated patterns of progression made in technology over the last few decades. Human beings in general always strive to progress. unless you're high.... And on top of that, or shall I say before all that, we are all greedy by nature, so we will always strive to create the next big item to make that moola!
So I hate my Hero, A, because it is slow, and B, because it is stuck on 2.1 forever. So I have been looking at the Evo and the Epic, and the other related phones, and here is my question, what is the support going to be like? I know that every time a new phone comes out, the manufacturers seem to forget about the old ones, and for no technical reason, the MyTouch 3G is getting Froyo after all. So one of the things I am looking at with my next phone is that it will be supported for the full two years, the Hero only made it 6 months, so I know that seems like a lot, but I honestly don't think it is too much to ask. If you sell a phone with a 2 year contract, you should support it for at least 2 years, as long as technically possible. So without a vanilla Android phone available on Sprint, which of the two phones do you guys think will be supported with updates longer? I have seen that sources close to Google said the Galaxy S phones will be upgraded to 3.0, but they didn't mention the EVO, even though it meets the spec requirements. Would it be waiting until the end of the year for whatever comes then? Or is just that buying me until December of next year instead of August? Thanks.
No phone will ever be supported for 2 years...some countries even have 3 year contracts as standards...The contract is unrelated to the phone you buy...
The manufacturer warranty is 1 year for all of them...past that you can't really expect them to issue updates for it...that is why we have a community...
You have to remember that the manufacturer is not earning money off your contract, only from the sale and if they have their apps in there, those as well...
The one who is forcing you into the contracts are the carriers...no matter how much you may think the US is a free open country..it is not...out of all the countries we have the most locking of phones and other things...
You are not forced to sign a new contract..you can always pay the full price of the phone up front..the contract just gives you a discount...
Ok, while I will admit all that you said is true, my example is the iPhone. Apple puts out a phone, and continues issuing updates for it, even you you are probably out of your 3G contract now, you can still upgrade to OS 4.0, you won't get all of the features, and it is debatable whether you should have those features, but at least you get part of the update. I don't understand why that can't happen on Android. Even the MyTouch 3G will have had support for over a year. The Hero on the other hand, got its first and only upgrade after about 6 months. Why can't we have some arrangement like that with a non-Google phone? I mean, just give me a full year of updates and I will be happy, if those updates are reasonably prompt, as with the EVO and Froyo. Will that continue with the EVO, or the Galaxy S when we move to Gingerbread?
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Ok, while I will admit all that you said is true, my example is the iPhone. Apple puts out a phone, and continues issuing updates for it, even you you are probably out of your 3G contract now, you can still upgrade to OS 4.0, you won't get all of the features, and it is debatable whether you should have those features, but at least you get part of the update. I don't understand why that can't happen on Android. Even the MyTouch 3G will have had support for over a year. The Hero on the other hand, got its first and only upgrade after about 6 months. Why can't we have some arrangement like that with a non-Google phone? I mean, just give me a full year of updates and I will be happy, if those updates are reasonably prompt, as with the EVO and Froyo. Will that continue with the EVO, or the Galaxy S when we move to Gingerbread?
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Well iPhone is different..Apple actually gets paid a portion of your contract...not to mention all app revenue goes to them as well...
But in case of the Hero..it kinda came at a bad time...it was the point where the device specs skyrocketed and Android was moving fast in development..not to mention the Hero was already an out dated phone before it even came out..US was just slow at getting devices on the shelves...recently it seemed to have picked up..before it used to be 6 month - a year before it got in US shelves but was already all over the world...nowadays we get them 1-3 month or so...
Once 3.0 hits Android also slow down a bit in their release cycle...
Most likely you will get 1 year support around these days..and afterwards it will be community support for life ...
Maybe I am slightly bitter, especially that the poor Hero support came after my first HTC phone, the Touch Pro, broke on 4 separate occasions, the first two were within 30 days, so Sprint replaced it, but the 3rd time it took 3 weeks to send to HTC and get it back, after a maze of tech support calls. Then I upgrade to the Hero, and don't get supported.
But what you are saying all makes sense, so I hope either way we get more updates, even if they have to be delivered by the Dev community.
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Maybe I am slightly bitter, especially that the poor Hero support came after my first HTC phone, the Touch Pro, broke on 4 separate occasions, the first two were within 30 days, so Sprint replaced it, but the 3rd time it took 3 weeks to send to HTC and get it back, after a maze of tech support calls. Then I upgrade to the Hero, and don't get supported.
But what you are saying all makes sense, so I hope either way we get more updates, even if they have to be delivered by the Dev community.
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My Hero has 2.2....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_vAbsx0spM
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My Hero has 2.2....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_vAbsx0spM
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He means from HTC/Sprint official upgrade..not community stuff..
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My Hero has 2.2....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_vAbsx0spM
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So does mine, thanks to Darchstar and all of his fellow developers. And I can't thank them enough for that, because if it weren't for them, I would have thrown this phone out of my car at high speed off a cliff long ago. But it shouldn't be up to developers to support a year old phone. Especially when it is obviously capable of running newer firmware. And because they don't officially support it, these 2.2 ROMs will never be as good as ones with the official HTC base.
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He means from HTC/Sprint official upgrade..not community stuff..
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Correct, I just think it is the right thing to do when you sell a phone. Support it for two years. Sprint pays HTC for the phone, and we pay Sprint for the phone and service, so it just makes sense that they Sprint should make sure their customers are supported for at least the two year contract whenever technically possible.
One year of support might be feasable. Htc doesn't want to waste resources supporting old hardware, sprint doesn't want you to reach end of contract. This is why they give upgrade pricing after one year in exchange for 2yr contract agreement. Android platform + this communit have given me the ability to keep a phone for 2yrs with minimal discomfort.
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Maybe I am slightly bitter, especially that the poor Hero support came after my first HTC phone, the Touch Pro, broke on 4 separate occasions, the first two were within 30 days, so Sprint replaced it, but the 3rd time it took 3 weeks to send to HTC and get it back, after a maze of tech support calls.
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Wait a second... Why the heck would you EVER have to send the phone in to HTC? If it's under warranty, Sprint repair stores handle it for you. If there's no repair stores near you, care cross-ships you out a new (or refurb) phone. You shouldn't have to be without a phone for more than a day, max.
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Wait a second... Why the heck would you EVER have to send the phone in to HTC? If it's under warranty, Sprint repair stores handle it for you. If there's no repair stores near you, care cross-ships you out a new (or refurb) phone. You shouldn't have to be without a phone for more than a day, max.
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Because it was about 6 months after we bought it, and it we don't buy the warranties. So we called Sprint, and they told us that the only thing they would do is sell us a new phone for full retail, and specifically asked about a loaner or something, and they said that was only for people with warranties. They said the only thing we could do is send it to HTC, so that is what we had to do.
As a rebuttal, you can put 2.2 on a hero, and have everything work. I'm doing that now to get used to not having sense. Sure it doesn't top the charts and 3d games suck on it, but there are plenty 2d games on the market that work fine, you can watch movies that look and sound fine on it if you take the time to convert them properly. Plus, I haven't had any issues with lag, especially with the keyboard. The stock android one us much better than htc's ime.apk in that aspect. And it probably has to do with the haptic feedback. I typed this on my phone and it doesn't feel like a chore.
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As a rebuttal, you can put 2.2 on a hero, and have everything work. I'm doing that now to get used to not having sense. Sure it doesn't top the charts and 3d games suck on it, but there are plenty 2d games on the market that work fine, you can watch movies that look and sound fine on it if you take the time to convert them properly. Plus, I haven't had any issues with lag, especially with the keyboard. The stock android one us much better than htc's ime.apk in that aspect. And it probably has to do with the haptic feedback. I typed this on my phone and it doesn't feel like a chore.
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Thats not what the OP is talking about...he has Hero running 2.2 as well..if you read he says manufacturer support..NOT community support...
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Thats not what the OP is talking about...he has Hero running 2.2 as well..if you read he says manufacturer support..NOT community support...
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Thanks again gTen, and rufflez, I have already said how much I love the devs here and on other forums, and all the work they put into the platform, but the operating system is always the best when based on official kernels and and drivers. And it shouldn't be up to the community to support the devices after such a short time. They should improve on work done by the manufacturer, but they shouldn't be solely responsible for the device's advancements.
It seems as though the most hackable phone, the Grandfather of Android has been lacking much attention, I think all the developers have left us! The forums have not had any new ROMs or tiny hacks .
I think it is time to let the G1 and all the other 1.6 or below Android phones lay to rest... (the dump!)
The lack of anything besides Vanilla 2.X roms here lately is a sign of the G1's retirement setting in fully. We all knew this was coming. As soon as they said 2.X would never be given to non rooted users, it was a big blow dealt. Now that we hardly see any new roms and the recent news of the G1 Blaze being very near to release, I think people are just waiting for the right upgrade to come along. Then the G1 will go to the great phone graveyard.
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It seems as though the most hackable phone, the Grandfather of Android has been lacking much attention, I think all the developers have left us! The forums have not had any new ROMs or tiny hacks .
I think it is time to let the G1 and all the other 1.6 or below Android phones lay to rest... (the dump!)
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Yeah, ditto, I've noticed the same thing for months now. We G1 users have not been forgotten though, we still have lots of developers who are still working hard for us. I mean, remember a few months ago when we didn't even have fully working eclair roms? Each of which had different broken features, back when OE, CE, and kings AOSP were the best 2.1 roms yet they all lacked camcorder, 3D, etc. Now we have fully functional hardware on froyo roms, We can load custom boot partitions, we can OC way past 528 Mhz, etc.
I have a few ideas to try to implement myself, but I am definately still learning. I just recently installed ubuntu on my main computer (windows sucks lol) and I'm working on building from CM source. Some of my (and other people's) ideas include a reverse ram hack and an OC OV kernel to overclock higher. Wish me luck
Besides, try not to thing about it as how much we have left, but how far we've come. (lol I linked to a song by the same name... listen to it the lyrics are powerful)
Yea. I own a g1 and a mytouch 3g both 32b.. i think i installed mostly every rom for the g1.. now rooting just got boring w. The g1.. i love the phone nd all.. i just dont want to see it go.. after every hack that came out for it.. i have to wait 2 year to get a new android device.. but i kno my g1 will hold up.. still best keyboard/touch screen phone too me..
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Yeah I said that this was going to happen back in February when the MyTouch LE and Nexus were coming out. Nobody believed me and in fact I was getting hate mail because of it. Some people were so persistent that the G1 was still going to be developed on for years to come because they had some older WinMo phones that were still being kept up to date. My argument is that Android is growing much faster than WinMo system and has become increasingly popular. To be honest I was caught a little off guard by the MyTouch 1.2/LE devices being outdated so quickly but again, it only backed up my theory that the G1 and MyTouch devices would be obsolete by years end. Most devices out there are made to support the future of Android. Some are even rumored to be dual processor! There would be no way that roms or even apps that can run on 1ghz dual processor devices with 16gb of internal storage can compete with the devices that ran RC-17, RC-19, RC-30, RC-33, etc. A year from now people will be looking at the G1 in awe that we've come so far with Android and more devices will be released. Devices with much better specifications and that can receive upgrades for a least a couple years to come. It pains me to say that HTC wasn't thinking very far ahead when they released the Dream with such limitations but who would have thought that we would have Android systems like Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread? Hell, I remember back when you couldn't even have widgets on your Android homescreen other than the clock. Now look at your screen. That wasn't too long ago either.
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Yeah I said that this was going to happen back in February when the MyTouch LE and Nexus were coming out. Nobody believed me and in fact I was getting hate mail because of it. Some people were so persistent that the G1 was still going to be developed on for years to come because they had some older WinMo phones that were still being kept up to date. My argument is that Android is growing much faster than WinMo system and has become increasingly popular. To be honest I was caught a little off guard by the MyTouch 1.2/LE devices being outdated so quickly but again, it only backed up my theory that the G1 and MyTouch devices would be obsolete by years end. Most devices out there are made to support the future of Android. Some are even rumored to be dual processor! There would be no way that roms or even apps that can run on 1ghz dual processor devices with 16gb of internal storage can compete with the devices that ran RC-17, RC-19, RC-30, RC-33, etc. A year from now people will be looking at the G1 in awe that we've come so far with Android and more devices will be released. Devices with much better specifications and that can receive upgrades for a least a couple years to come. It pains me to say that HTC wasn't thinking very far ahead when they released the Dream with such limitations but who would have thought that we would have Android systems like Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread? Hell, I remember back when you couldn't even have widgets on your Android homescreen other than the clock. Now look at your screen. That wasn't too long ago either.
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Bam, You nailed.. it!
I saw it. I knew this hardware was going to be outdated very quickly. That's the number one thing that drives me to a phone is hardware, and G1 never had enough. MT3G caught my attention, and now I feel buyers remorse for buying so early. Damn good phone, but now its nothing compared to anything else.
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I saw it. I knew this hardware was going to be outdated very quickly. That's the number one thing that drives me to a phone is hardware, and G1 never had enough. MT3G caught my attention, and now I feel buyers remorse for buying so early. Damn good phone, but now its nothing compared to anything else.
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All the original MyTouch was a G1 without a keyboard unless you happen to have a 32a device. The 1.2 was a nice step up, but quickly outdated.
I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.
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I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.
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So basically you want your G1 phone for strictly a linux based computer system and not for a phone at all, that about it?
jamesd86 said:
I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.
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Im going to jump in and say YES! Why? Because I am deaf (read hearing impaired, profoundly deaf -- dont call me, nobody will answer, I cant hear you")
I got my first Dream in November 2009. It was because I was sick of the Sidekick and its baked-ness.
December 2009, I rooted the G1 because I quickly got sucked into the rooting forums and wanted to see what it could do.
I have been trying to figure out how to run this phone without phone.apk com.android.phone and Dialer. Its impossible since the telephony part is still tied into the SMS/MMS portions.
My point is...... the telephone part for a hearing user must use about...... say 1GHZ of space. What can this Dream do without all that phone?
I now own 6 Dreams, (1 bought, 5 rescued from the graveyard, all are working beautifully and I have big hopes for them one day) This is not just a phone. Its a beautiful piece of clocked machinery. I believe I will use a G1 until the day I die which will be within 6 decades.
So, instead of sending the G1's to the graveyard how about it
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So basically you want your G1 phone for strictly a linux based computer system and not for a phone at all, that about it?
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No, I want it to run Android(yes, i know its a linux kernel). I want it to play media, navigate/have maps on sd card so i can replace a standalone gps on long trips, I want it utilize any and all apps that it can, games too. And I want it to do all this w/o the telephone parts taking up precious space. I can put google voice/sipdroid on it for voip capabilities.
yeah. I also want to know if the 64 mb of ram that would be wasted on the baseband radio can be recovered.
I would never give up my G1 even though I said that in the first post but... the G1 is just to amazing to me. The current G1 I own has a screen cable issue so the screen constantly turns black when ever you touch the bottom certainly, now I have to use a P.O.S. Sidekick LX 2007 Brown temporarily until Project Emerald or the G1 Blaze. If I could fix the cable I would gladly use this G1 until it dies before I replace it.
Or you could buy a used g1 on craigslist for 75 bucks. hell, if you got friends with android that have upgraded you might be able to score a free one.
I still use my G1... but i've had some hard times with it in the past... First time rooting I had a problem with the SPL and bricked the phone, it would stay on the G1 screen and not let me do anything else. So, I called Tmo and told them my phone stopped working so they sent me a new one and I returned the bricked one. Got lucky with that. cracked my digitizer once replaced that one from a friends G1 which became a part out. Gonna need to replace the menu button above the trackball later today, something is really wrong with it. Replaced the motherboard because the wifi stopped working never found out how to fix that... Then the HD2 was released... didn't know about it till 2 months later when I started seeing commercials for it so I picked one of those up. wondered what the 1ghz processor was like and HTC sense, this was all before they started putting Android on the HD2's. Just after 2 weeks of owning the phone I leave it on my windshield after a few hours of working on my car and take the car out for a test drive... all the while forgetting my phone... Cracked the screen and made a few scratches on the case but was still fully operational. Few more weeks later and I forget my phone on the roof of my car this time, and am driving about 70mph and hear a thunk and a thud and was asking myself wtf was that?... then I realized I don't have my phone in my lap and I started shaking and freak out a little bit and desperatly try to find it. Luckly I do... however this time I wasn't so lucky. Digitizer is not responsive and since it doesn't have a trackball the phone becomes totally useless. Slide my SIM card in my G1 once again and have been using it for awhile (I took my G1 everywhere my car would go just in case I had some bad luck or needed to use an app off of it.) I'm impressed with the speed of the G1, yes its already outdated but look its running Froyo and to me I figured it would be like putting windows 7 on a computer made in the 90's, but its nothing like that at all, its running it just fine, and sure its not as fast as the EVO 4 but its working good enough to be functional for a daily use phone and show off to my friend who just bought the vibrant and is anticipating the september OTA update to Froyo he was a little upset/jealous that I got it on my phone, and to be honest I had a big smirk on my face when I showed him everything it has.
Boring story I know... haha!
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I still use my G1... but i've had some hard times with it in the past... First time rooting I had a problem with the SPL and bricked the phone, it would stay on the G1 screen and not let me do anything else. So, I called Tmo and told them my phone stopped working so they sent me a new one and I returned the bricked one. Got lucky with that. cracked my digitizer once replaced that one from a friends G1 which became a part out. Gonna need to replace the menu button above the trackball later today, something is really wrong with it. Replaced the motherboard because the wifi stopped working never found out how to fix that... Then the HD2 was released... didn't know about it till 2 months later when I started seeing commercials for it so I picked one of those up. wondered what the 1ghz processor was like and HTC sense, this was all before they started putting Android on the HD2's. Just after 2 weeks of owning the phone I leave it on my windshield after a few hours of working on my car and take the car out for a test drive... all the while forgetting my phone... Cracked the screen and made a few scratches on the case but was still fully operational. Few more weeks later and I forget my phone on the roof of my car this time, and am driving about 70mph and hear a thunk and a thud and was asking myself wtf was that?... then I realized I don't have my phone in my lap and I started shaking and freak out a little bit and desperatly try to find it. Luckly I do... however this time I wasn't so lucky. Digitizer is not responsive and since it doesn't have a trackball the phone becomes totally useless. Slide my SIM card in my G1 once again and have been using it for awhile (I took my G1 everywhere my car would go just in case I had some bad luck or needed to use an app off of it.) I'm impressed with the speed of the G1, yes its already outdated but look its running Froyo and to me I figured it would be like putting windows 7 on a computer made in the 90's, but its nothing like that at all, its running it just fine, and sure its not as fast as the EVO 4 but its working good enough to be functional for a daily use phone and show off to my friend who just bought the vibrant and is anticipating the september OTA update to Froyo he was a little upset/jealous that I got it on my phone, and to be honest I had a big smirk on my face when I showed him everything it has.
Boring story I know... haha!
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Don't worry I show off my G1 to everyone who owns an Android phone that is newer with better specs. I say "Hey what phone is that?" "Guess what this is?" "a G1!!!!" "What can your phone do?" Mine can do that and this!" ""Why can your G1 do that and my newer phone can't?"" "G1 is to great of a phone... should have kept it "
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Don't worry I show off my G1 to everyone who owns an Android phone that is newer with better specs. I say "Hey what phone is that?" "Guess what this is?" "a G1!!!!" "What can your phone do?" Mine can do that and this!" ""Why can your G1 do that and my newer phone can't?"" "G1 is to great of a phone... should have kept it "
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HAHAHA nice I need to try that with some people. Hopefully some Dev's can get Gingerbread on the G1 and then I can make my friend more jealous because he'll probably have to wait till next year to get it on his phone.
It feels so good to have this G1. A device with out dated specs, but with capabilty of anything out there. Hmmmmm maybe if we just swap in a gpu.... we should build G1s.. just like they build computers
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This is my first thread as an OP, and ironically probably my last in the HeroC forums.. I converted over to the 3vo yesterday (and yes the rumors are true, it is amazing), so this is somewhat of a farewell thread but also one last testament to how awesome this little hero is..
i was on vacation last week with my wife's family in the mountains of Tennessee, we get a cabin there every year.. but everybody in the family has a smart phones, there are 2 brand new windows phones on AT&T and the rest are sprint, 2 evos a nexus s, and a random asortment of other phones.. but they all have looked at the hero with disdain, because most had the hero stock (which we all know sucked balls), and only 2 of them actually let me root it, but wouldnt let me optimize it at all.. but they all looked at my little hero like it was a piece of trash, because they had all moved on to "better" phones.. but on to the point, up in this mountain there was hardly a cell signal, the AT&T phones had zero signal, and the others were hit and miss.. but, my hero had signal the whole time.. not only did it have signal, but i wireless tethered to the laptops so we could get on the internet.. so while their condescending "awesome" phones sat lifeless on their night stands, my hero reigned supreme and gave life to their devices..
i know that didnt really have a lot to do with anything, but thought i would throw it out there, this phone despite being left to die by sprint and HTC, continues to conquer where other phones fail.. my hero shall sit in a glass case as it watches over its android kingdom..
and many thanks to all of the people that have helped me around here, and hopefully i have returned the favor at some point.. i will still be floating around here especially until the 3vo forums settle down a bit.. but raise a glass to our hero, heres to the greatest of the phones that was never meant to be great..
Cheers!
®patience is a virtue©
Well said!!!....Not only did my Hero serve me well for 16 months in the face of all those who scoffed. It's now been put into service teaching my 11 year old the ways of Android.
It's amazing how many people revere their Heros. It's just like your first love. I went through the Palm Pilot thing, and this really reminds me of that. People posted about upgrading, but talked about the respect and admiration they had for their first device.
Good luck to you in 3vo land, sounds like that community is really getting going.
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It's amazing how many people revere their Heros. It's just like your first love. I went through the Palm Pilot thing, and this really reminds me of that. People posted about upgrading, but talked about the respect and admiration they had for their first device.
Good luck to you in 3vo land, sounds like that community is really getting going.
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Amen to that! If there ever is a Hero2, I will get it!
A great little beast the HERO is...I still got this bad boy for another week but this week will be its finest...
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I've been browsing these boards tonight as I have been rooting and flashing my sister's Hero. This phone and its community is a spitting image of the Eris I had. I really am glad to see a diamond in the rough across all carriers to spread the Android love. Sorry to stray off topic, but I know all about having a great community driven phone, and I will never forget my Eris.
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I enjoyd mine. I rooted almost immediately when I got it last year and learned the Android trades of hack and mod. It was a great introduction to Android OS and a solid little phone. Now that I have the 3VO, I somewhat miss it for things like the jogball, root, custom ROMs. I sold it to a coworker so I still have visitation,lol.
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I enjoyd mine. I rooted almost immediately when I got it last year and learned the Android trades of hack and mod. It was a great introduction to Android OS and a solid little phone. Now that I have the 3VO, I somewhat miss it for things like the jogball, root, custom ROMs. I sold it to a coworker so I still have visitation,lol.
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my wife and i both had heros and she moved on to an evo a while back, and wanted nothing to do with her hero, so i traded it in, and kept mine so it can have a nice retirement.. if i get bored with the 3d or aosp posts something amazing, i will take him down and give him a fresh flash to keep him up to date.. it is most deff one of the best devices to learn stuff on, there wasnt anything that i couldnt do to that phone.. times that i swore it was bricked and then 15 minutes later he was pumping again.. :tear:
I've had mine for about a year, and I plan to have him for maybe another year... or maybe more, depends I really love this little thing.
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hopefully hero 4g comes out soon
htc kingdom is the hero4g do a search for it think its sprint carrier also if hasn't already dropped in some places will Very soon in the us
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This is my first thread as an OP, and ironically probably my last in the HeroC forums.. I converted over to the 3vo yesterday (and yes the rumors are true, it is amazing), so this is somewhat of a farewell thread but also one last testament to how awesome this little hero is..
i was on vacation last week with my wife's family in the mountains of Tennessee, we get a cabin there every year.. but everybody in the family has a smart phones, there are 2 brand new windows phones on AT&T and the rest are sprint, 2 evos a nexus s, and a random asortment of other phones.. but they all have looked at the hero with disdain, because most had the hero stock (which we all know sucked balls), and only 2 of them actually let me root it, but wouldnt let me optimize it at all.. but they all looked at my little hero like it was a piece of trash, because they had all moved on to "better" phones.. but on to the point, up in this mountain there was hardly a cell signal, the AT&T phones had zero signal, and the others were hit and miss.. but, my hero had signal the whole time.. not only did it have signal, but i wireless tethered to the laptops so we could get on the internet.. so while their condescending "awesome" phones sat lifeless on their night stands, my hero reigned supreme and gave life to their devices..
i know that didnt really have a lot to do with anything, but thought i would throw it out there, this phone despite being left to die by sprint and HTC, continues to conquer where other phones fail.. my hero shall sit in a glass case as it watches over its android kingdom..
and many thanks to all of the people that have helped me around here, and hopefully i have returned the favor at some point.. i will still be floating around here especially until the 3vo forums settle down a bit.. but raise a glass to our hero, heres to the greatest of the phones that was never meant to be great..
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Nicely put man... Cheers to our little phone that was Never Meant/Suppose to be Great!!