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About to root a friends evo...... need advice... ran into problems

So I'm about to root my boys evo and start tinkering with it, my question is, what's the best Tom to load and what are the best battery saving mods available to you guys? I'm currently running cm7 on my hero but over always thought the miui rom looked pretty cool but the main thing he wants to improve is battery life. Let me know what your suggestions are. Thanks guys!
Edit: rooted with unrevoked, gained soff, wiped, flashed miui, works great for awhile but then start getting force closes like crazy! Only way to stop it is a reflash! Any suggestions?
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Root using Unrevoked... And it depends if you wanna run a sense rom or not? I would perfer Myns RLS5 or CM7 RC1.

for each phone.. it seams to react differently with each.
i think it has to do with phone/ location / use.
you just have to try.. and see which works best for your boy.
you can try the top ROMs:
Mui
Myn
Fresh
CM
then try different Kernels...
there is a lot to choose from too.
me.. I like Myn + Netarchy-Toastmod 4.3.2

tbgreen89 said:
Root using Unrevoked... And it depends if you wanna run a sense rom or not? I would perfer Myns RLS5 or CM7 RC1.
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he is used to sense but dont think it really matters
Dan330 said:
for each phone.. it seams to react differently with each.
i think it has to do with phone/ location / use.
you just have to try.. and see which works best for your boy.
you can try the top ROMs:
Mui
Myn
Fresh
CM
then try different Kernels...
there is a lot to choose from too.
me.. I like Myn + Netarchy-Toastmod 4.3.2
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Guess we will be playing some, theres only like 2 kernels for my Hero so im not used to alot of kernels.

Rooster85 said:
So I'm about to root my boys evo and start tinkering with it, my question is, what's the best Tom to load and what are the best battery saving mods available to you guys? I'm currently running cm7 on my hero but over always thought the miui rom looked pretty cool but the main thing he wants to improve is battery life. Let me know what your suggestions are. Thanks guys!
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For rooting the thread below has a lot of good info about the Evo, for battery life that depends a lot on the ROM & kernel. I highly recommend you do not use a SBC kernel as they charge the battery in a way that every single authority on li-ion batteries tells you not to and can be dangerous.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204

Rooster85 said:
So I'm about to root my boys evo and start tinkering with it, my question is, what's the best Tom to load and what are the best battery saving mods available to you guys? I'm currently running cm7 on my hero but over always thought the miui rom looked pretty cool but the main thing he wants to improve is battery life. Let me know what your suggestions are. Thanks guys!
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If 42 hours off the charger sounds like good battery life, check out MIUI.
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Honestly, that was minimal usage for me, so I don't usually get that kind of battery life, but it still easily gets me through a day with normal usage.

i think im diggin the Miui rom, are you using the kernel included with the rom? any other tweaks?

EndlessDissent said:
If 42 hours off the charger sounds like good battery life, check out MIUI.
Honestly, that was minimal usage for me, so I don't usually get that kind of battery life, but it still easily gets me through a day with normal usage.
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Damn bro, those are some kick ass stats; pretty impressive, minimal usage or not.
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Up for an updatr
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Hopefully someone an can chime in with more EVO ROM'ing experience than I.
I have an OG Droid and like all phones, each phone is different from the next. one evo can run a rom and kernel setup great, and another evo will be unstable.
same in the droid world.
the one thing is to back up after root using clockwork recovery or similar methods. that way you can just try the next suggested rom and/or kernel.
also, this was true in the droid world. but is it necassary to wipe data when flashing to a different rom? Do you evo guys need to this as well?
anyway. my keyboard is broken. shift, 0, and the c key is getting flakey.
...off to the store...

foghorn67 said:
Hopefully someone an can chime in with more EVO ROM'ing experience than I.
I have an OG Droid and like all phones, each phone is different from the next. one evo can run a rom and kernel setup great, and another evo will be unstable.
same in the droid world.
the one thing is to back up after root using clockwork recovery or similar methods. that way you can just try the next suggested rom and/or kernel.
also, this was true in the droid world. but is it necassary to wipe data when flashing to a different rom? Do you evo guys need to this as well?
anyway. my keyboard is broken. shift, 0, and the c key is getting flakey.
...off to the store...
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Completely correct. Evo users should backup before flashing another rom or kernel, and always [at a minimum] wipe the cache and dalvik cache. If you get a bunch of force closes or issues [can happen when going sense to aosp or vice versa] a clean wipe might be needed, in which go into the rom, backup all apps and data, then restore only apps and data, not system settings.

Rooster85 said:
i think im diggin the Miui rom, are you using the kernel included with the rom? any other tweaks?
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I usually flash the latest Savaged-Zen BFS kernel. I use SetCPU on Savaged-Zen governor, no profiles, 998 max, 128 min.

Rooster85 said:
So I'm about to root my boys evo and start tinkering with it, my question is, what's the best Tom to load and what are the best battery saving mods available to you guys? I'm currently running cm7 on my hero but over always thought the miui rom looked pretty cool but the main thing he wants to improve is battery life. Let me know what your suggestions are. Thanks guys!
Edit: rooted with unrevoked, gained soff, wiped, flashed miui, works great for awhile but then start getting force closes like crazy! Only way to stop it is a reflash! Any suggestions?
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Is the wifi sleep policy set to never?
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Next Up?

Hey Guys,
First off to everyone that has left or is on a leave, thanks for what you did.
Now, I am looking for some POSITIVE news. I did read that Rob decided to stick with an Epic (love that, Rob is awesome). What else is coming down the pipe? Everyone thinks CM7 will never come, I know its getting worked on, I have tried it, and hope that comes through. What is Bonsai or Viper up to? They both do awesome work. Any new devs out there cookin up some goodies?
I guess I am sick of the looking back, and want to know what you all are looking forward to?
This phone rocks! I just got 42 hrs battery life with the ebay 3500 using SFR and the EE03 Modem. I cant upgrade for a while, so I am going to like this phone.
Thanks for reading and, and I am interested to hear what you all are looking forward to.
PS - we know Z-Man the puzzle lock screen. Which I heard is rolling out...

CM7 ...
MidNight
Bonsai....
Thats basically it.
Although i am REALLY looking forward to the Hangover Part II

What about viper or urban fury?

jspsuperman said:
What about viper or urban fury?
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i Was posting on what i am looking forward to i've mostly stayed on MidNight and Bonsai.
But Acs was the best IMO but with it gone i will spend most of my time on Bonsai or MidNight....
Until CM7 Gets a little more stable and will let me go to 1400 Gigawatts

You know, even though ACS (or ICN) is gone, it doesn't mean this community has depleted. We lost two amazing devs (k0nane and mysteryemotionz), but that should not bring us down! In fact, I bet you if a bunch of the other devs like Rob and Mammon and marcusant, etc. all were to make a new team, I'm sure we could make some pretty sick ROMs. And remember, we still have CM7 in the works by nullghost, DevinXtreme, Dameon, awesome kernels by thomasskull and DRockstar...so just remember, this community still has tons of potential left.

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You know, even though ACS (or ICN) is gone, it doesn't mean this community has depleted. We lost two amazing devs (k0nane and mysteryemotionz), but that should not bring us down! In fact, I bet you if a bunch of the other devs like Rob and Mammon and marcusant, etc. all were to make a new team, I'm sure we could make some pretty sick ROMs. And remember, we still have CM7 in the works by nullghost, DevinXtreme, Dameon, awesome kernels by thomasskull and DRockstar...so just remember, this community still has tons of potential left.
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And anyone else who wants to start cooking.

marcusant Cook's too.

I've been eying Bonsai.
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The Root said:
I've been eying Bonsai.
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Lol sounds so dirty IMO

iSaint said:
Lol sounds so dirty IMO
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lol.. he said "bonsai" not "brownai" BWAHhahahaha

Acs isn't gone no clue why that's being said. Unfortunately k0nane is but the rest of Acs devs are still here. There will be a slow down in progress without k0 but work will still surface.
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dreamsforgotten said:
Acs isn't gone no clue why that's being said. Unfortunately k0nane is but the rest of Acs devs are still here. There will be a slow down in progress without k0 but work will still surface.
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Are you guys still planning for a release. I would hold out on Syndicate since I love the way it runs and the LP integration.
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I'm honestly not sure the fate of sr111 120 but as soon as me and jez2cool get more function from our google 2.3.4 build which is the os on the nexus, we will bring everyone in on that and we're trying but I'm a but tied up with the nexus s as well so blame me and the kernel for that delay
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My two cents - I dont get people and the "oh, what do I do now?" thing. k0nane and Mystery did some great work, but dont leave it up to other people to do the stuff you want done. I spent a lot of time working with a developer learning linux, and how to compile and tweak kernels, because I wanted to make my own(and understand what I was doing). I spent a lot of time chatting with a themer because I wanted to make my own theme. If you want something done, stop waiting for someone else, and get out there and start learning.

so what happened to viper team. the last rom was pretty sick and i really like the viper pad it works very well when you are using the samsung dock and everytime you go to do something else the music would stop playing thur the usb

dreamsforgotten said:
I'm honestly not sure the fate of sr111 120 but as soon as me and jez2cool get more function from our google 2.3.4 build which is the os on the nexus, we will bring everyone in on that and we're trying but I'm a but tied up with the nexus s as well so blame me and the kernel for that delay
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Consider yourself appropriately blamed.
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The Root said:
Consider yourself appropriately blamed.
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Lmao left that door open
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Neckberg said:
PS - we know Z-Man the puzzle lock screen. Which I heard is rolling out...
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This made my day lol
[sig]I'm close to rooting, i have to see if its messed up first *sigh*[sig]

zanderman112 said:
This made my day lol
[sig]I'm close to rooting, i have to see if its messed up first *sigh*[sig]
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Battery Jumping Issue on Gingerbread

This is a serious problem for me, and ive seen many others report it
it started with the HK 2.3.4, and i thought the ATandT build would fix it but it hasnt
The battery readings all over the place, it will say 40% left, but if i restart it itll go back to 59% and etc..
I have done a battery callibration, wiped battery stats, all that good stuff, it has not helped.
I flashed 1.8.3 SBF and then went to the ATandT gingerbread (gingerblur), so everying was wiped, but i still have this problem
Does anyone know how i can communicate this issue to that motorola forum guy Matt,
its very annoying and is making our batteries look very mediocre

Check out my battery life ...nice huh?
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lesonal said:
Check out my battery life ...nice huh?
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LOL did u really have the screen on for 5 hrs +

Yup watched a movie on Netflix and everything
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SS2006 said:
Does anyone know how i can communicate this issue to that motorola forum guy Matt,
its very annoying and is making our batteries look very mediocre
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Considering these builds are likely not at all final, it's probably something they either have fixed on another build, are working on fixing before the beta, or will fix during the beta.
Basically, I think we'll have to wait for the official release unless Kenn can patch a fix into his own rom.

this seems to be a problem after installing the 1% mod. every time i install it it happens no matter how many times i wipe... once i reflahed with beta 4.5 everything works perfect

I had the 1% mod , wish i never did
but flashed 1.8.3 and flashed to beta gingerblur again, i don thave the mod right now
but still seeing this

lesonal said:
Check out my battery life ...nice huh?
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How is this possible??

I am having the same issue but it doesn't seem to be a big deal as it shows quick drain when it jumps up or drains slow when it jumps down.
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Krshaw18 said:
How is this possible??
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Hows what possible? He has the 1% battery mod which makes his battery reading way off. I can be 60% battery , reboot and it will say I'm at 90%.

SS2006 said:
This is a serious problem for me, and ive seen many others report it
it started with the HK 2.3.4,
Does anyone know how i can communicate this issue to that motorola forum guy Matt,
its very annoying and is making our batteries look very mediocre
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Motorola isn't going to give 2 hoots about your problems since you flashed a leaked firmware, which wasn't for your specific model anyway!

ahjdmarchi said:
this seems to be a problem after installing the 1% mod. every time i install it it happens no matter how many times i wipe... once i reflahed with beta 4.5 everything works perfect
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I had a widget that displayed 1% increment battery levels and that showed the same deal as before. It's not a problem with the mod. All they do is read the system files reporting battery level anyway.
And really Caelan...can't you just ignore the topic if you're just going to post spam?

CaelanT said:
Motorola isn't going to give 2 hoots about your problems since you flashed a leaked firmware, which wasn't for your specific model anyway!
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If you read more carefully, you'll notice it actually is for our specific model
Gingerblur is based on the ATandT 4.5.91

to clear ur confusion, i did have hk and 1% mod in the past. But i then flashed 1.8.3 SBF (which is for at and t atrix)
So right there, all the past is history, im stock.
THEN went to 4.5.91, and still have problems, as do others

It's got to be a bug in the Moto ROM. I'm sure it will be fixed either by our devs or their's

My front facing camera will not work

Sorry to the OP if this is off topic, but didn't want to start a new thread.
Issue is, battery drains faster than it is getting charged while in use. playing game on it while charging and still sucks battery dry. any constructive thoughts is welcome

lesonal said:
Check out my battery life ...nice huh?
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Damn how did you get such high display time and still have 46% battery left? Any secrets?

Sprint Says ICS is bad

Just posting this article. I meant Sony... Not sure how to change the title. Don't kill the messenger....
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402489,00.asp

badbeats said:
Just posting this article.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402489,00.asp
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I think you should change your title to 'Sony' not 'Sprint' as there is ZERO mention of Sprint anywhere in that article.

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April fools joke?
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Whoops
Guess Sony and Sprint are pretty close. But Sony would want to put down ICS...we know the truth =D

Third party apps load slow? Browser uses excessive RAM? The "F" are they talking about? My ICS doesn't seem to match theirs...
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Zeinzu said:
Third party apps load slow? Browser uses excessive RAM? The "F" are they talking about? My ICS doesn't seem to match theirs...
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Well CM9 isn't exactly equal to ICS out of the box, right? Our devs do amazing things, and I don't think you can quite compare CM9 to ICS stock.
Unless of course you have a Verzion Galaxy Nexus we don't know about .

Zeinzu said:
Third party apps load slow? Browser uses excessive RAM? The "F" are they talking about? My ICS doesn't seem to match theirs...
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Umm the exact reason this phone is not getting ics. Its been well known ics is gonna be more intensive all the way around. Not a shocker.

this sony posted about the differenances of gb and ics:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/wp/...ical-differences-between-gingerbread-and-ics/
i like that they are going to let you turn off parts of ics, if slows down your phones.

jbadboy2007 said:
Umm the exact reason this phone is not getting ics. Its been well known ics is gonna be more intensive all the way around. Not a shocker.
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Huh? We didn't get ICS because we didn't have enough ROM space. ICS runs fine on my Epic. I've ran the stock ICS port too and it ran almost as smooth as cm9.
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Zeinzu said:
Huh? We didn't get ICS because we didn't have enough ROM space. ICS runs fine on my Epic. I've ran the stock ICS port too and it ran almost as smooth as cm9.
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On BML RFS?
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XxLostSoulxX said:
On BML RFS?
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........
We have the same ROM on BML and MTD. The main reason is that even if we have a larger system partition, we can still not fit bloatware, touchwiz, and ics.
As mkasick has said before, Samsung can change BML and RFS all that they want for an update. They just do not choose to because the Galaxy S 1 should be EOL by now and even if they did do an ics update, it would run pretty slow and be buggy and miss features of toucheiz that the average user likes.

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Hahaha. That pic almost kill me...
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We have the same ROM on BML and MTD. The main reason is that even if we have a larger system partition, we can still not fit bloatware, touchwiz, and ics.
As mkasick has said before, Samsung can change BML and RFS all that they want for an update. They just do not choose to because the Galaxy S 1 should be EOL by now and even if they did do an ics update, it would run pretty slow and be buggy and miss features of toucheiz that the average user likes.
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I see the average user as they want an update from thir damn phone so gps works and want a better look, I've asked several people I know who have this phone they don't know anything about rooting, etc... they all pretty much told me they wanted something that works and were all tired of the TW look to it so I say otherwise. Get rid of bloatware its not needed and strip TW away as much as it needs so ICS will operate.
I asked them all about battery life and they told me it doesn't matter as long as a charger is near by there were a few who said I would like longer battery life and pointed them into the rootin process. I surveyed more than 10 people.
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Why does it matter if TW is present in the updates Sprint gives us? We're all rooted and have a choice between stock/custom TW or AOSP roms. Sprint is only updating the Epic long enough till they get a new slider that have LTE. I doubt they'll update pass GB, and the value pack would be pushing it. Too much of a hassle for those who like their phone for it's average looks.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
I see the average user as they want an update from thir damn phone so gps works and want a better look, I've asked several people I know who have this phone they don't know anything about rooting, etc... they all pretty much told me they wanted something that works and were all tired of the TW look to it so I say otherwise. Get rid of bloatware its not needed and strip TW away as much as it needs so ICS will operate.
I asked them all about battery life and they told me it doesn't matter as long as a charger is near by there were a few who said I would like longer battery life and pointed them into the rootin process. I surveyed more than 10 people.
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Our phone isn't a Nexus brand phone, so bloatware and TouchWiz are mandatory (so to speak) on our phones. No way around it. Sprint/Samsung would never send out an update to a TouchWiz based phone without TW on it. While we here at XDA would love nothing more, it's simply not going to happen. They have to profit some way, some how from all that crap otherwise there wouldn't be a need for it in the first place. And once it's there, from a stock standpoint, it's there to stay.

My brand new nexus 7 decided to crap out on me

I bought this thing 3 days ago and today I turned it off to charge it and now it won't boot past the nexus logo. I never even got around to rooting it. Finally got it all set up the way I like it and it decided to brick itself. Was really loving it, what a buzzkill.

Update- Did a data/cache wipe in recovery and it finally booted up. Spoke to google tech support, apparently it's a known bug with 4.3 and they're working on it.

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Update- Did a data/cache wipe in recovery and it finally booted up. Spoke to google tech support, apparently it's a known bug with 4.3 and they're working on it.
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yup that dreaded X logo boot loop lol, i had to wipe data then do factory reset to get it to boot up as well , i might have gotten a lemon myself but im just gonna suck it up and keep it.... today is my last day to return it from staples... 14 days
i get random reboots, wifi freeze/dropping, when this thing works its blazing fast no doubt, similiar to the nexus 4 but 7 inches and way easier on my eyes, don't need to use my nexus 4 anymore aside from the odd phone call/text msg

Why do all you people turn it off to charge. I see no benefit what so ever. Every time I hear of something getting f'ed up its because they did this.
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Cuzz1369 said:
Why do all you people turn it off to charge. I see no benefit what so ever. Every time I hear of something getting f'ed up its because they did this.
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What do you mean YOU people?
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Why do all you people turn it off to charge. I see no benefit what so ever. Every time I hear of something getting f'ed up its because they did this.
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Never quite understood that myself. Seems pointless.
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What do you mean YOU people?
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The irony of that image is that it's a white guy in makeup playing a black guy. Funny...

How is that irony lol?
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LordLugard said:
Never quite understood that myself. Seems pointless.
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I do understand the futility of turning it off to charge, call it an old habit. I turn all my devices off to charge, have for years. But, that isn't the issue here- one should not have to be concerned that their tablet isn't going to turn back on once it's off.

Why don't you just restore your tablet? As long as you don't have anything important. You should still be able to access fastboot mode.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381582
Just make sure you have the fastboot drivers installed. Open the utility, make sure you are in recovery (fastboot), and you should be able to recover your device.

p282 said:
Why don't you just restore your tablet? As long as you don't have anything important. You should still be able to access fastboot mode.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381582
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Didn't need to. Just wiped in recovery and it came back up.
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_MetalHead_ said:
Didn't need to. Just wiped in recovery and it came back up.
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I thought you might not had a recovery flashed. It's good that your tablet is going at least.

p282 said:
I thought you might not had a recovery flashed. It's good that your tablet is going at least.
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It comes with a recovery. Every device does.
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Cuzz1369 said:
Why do all you people turn it off to charge. I see no benefit what so ever. Every time I hear of something getting f'ed up its because they did this.
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Right, I barely ever reboot or shut down any of my Android devices. No need to at all for charging.
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Richieboy67 said:
Right, I barely ever reboot or shut down any of my Android devices. No need to at all for charging.
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Again, am I not allowed to turn off my device? Or is that considered taboo these days.

I don't turn off to charge but I tell you this should not be an issue. What happens if you leave your tablet on and it runs dead. You have to charge while its off and then go to turn it on and blooey. No, that isn't acceptable. However I'm glad to hear Google is working on the issue.

As a side note...yes I agree you should be able to turnoff your device without issue...
But I have always been trained that turning an electrical device on/off frequently is harder on the components than leaving it run. Assume that still holds true for today's electronics.
Yes, this has nothing to do with your n7 not restarting as it should.
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_MetalHead_ said:
Again, am I not allowed to turn off my device? Or is that considered taboo these days.
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I don't think anyone is saying you can't (although I'm sure you don't anymore lol) Personally I just don't seem understand the benefit. When I leave the house I simply put it in airplane mode and I don't leave it charging unattended. While in a perfect world it shouldn't matter, you should be able to leave it turned off and charge for days without a problem. But unfortunately these devices are far from perfect.
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_MetalHead_ said:
Again, am I not allowed to turn off my device?
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Not, you absolutely are NOT allowed to power down your device!! You are only allowed to do what the majority of the general public sees to be "normal"! If you take 1 single step out of those boundaries, you will be shunned and possibly even stoned(no, not stoned like that you reefer cheifer, stoned with actual rocks. And no, not that kinda rock you crackhead, rocks from nature that you find laying on the ground)!! Can't believe you didn't know that!! You must not read to many public forums these days! It's funny how people say they prefer Android because it's open and allows you to customize how you want; but then if you mention something that you do with your device that the majority doesn't do, you will be questioned about it and some will even try to make jokes about it. Quite ironic how that works!!! Not saying that the previous members who posted are that way, just making a general statement and joking around with the OP after his comment.
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stanglifemike said:
Not, you absolutely are NOT allowed to power down your device!! You are only allowed to do what the majority of the general public sees to be "normal"! If you take 1 single step out of those boundaries, you will be shunned and possibly even stoned(no, not stoned like that you reefer cheifer, stoned with actual rocks. And no, not that kinda rock you crackhead, rocks from nature that you find laying on the ground)!! Can't believe you didn't know that!! You must not read to many public forums these days! It's funny how people say they prefer Android because it's open and allows you to customize how you want; but then if you mention something that you do with your device that the majority doesn't do, you will be questioned about it and some will even try to make jokes about it. Quite ironic how that works!!! Not saying that the previous members who posted are that way, just making a general statement and joking around with the OP after his comment.
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I laughed, I cried, I agreed.