For the HTC HD2 only (someone said in this thread)
Format won't help since it won't unlock your sd card and won't delete the internal protection. You need to do the following.
1. start linux (install ubuntu besides windows or something)
2. put card in computer
3. unmount sd card with "umount"
4. format sd card with "mke2fs /location-of-sd-card/"
5. go to windows and format as fat32 or just put it in your phone.
6. thank me
Windows or your phone will say it's broken or something and will repair.
The mango security is no more and your sd card is revived.
If I did something wrong, let me know, it's my first post.
romusters said:
Format won't help since it won't unlock your sd card and won't delete the internal protection. You need to do the following.
1. start linux (install ubuntu besides windows or something)
2. put card in computer
3. unmount sd card with "umount"
4. format sd card with "mke2fs /location-of-sd-card/"
5. go to windows and format as fat32 or just put it in your phone.
6. thank me
Windows or your phone will say it's broken or something and will repair.
The mango security is no more and your sd card is revived.
If I did something wrong, let me know, it's my first post.
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If I'm not mistaken, there's two different types of security being used; there's the kind being used on the HD2, and then there's the kind being used on native WP7 phones. Does this method work with the latter? As far as I know, no other method except the Symbian trick will work with a card that's fully locked.
Also, for the record, installing Ubuntu (or any other Linux) is a waste of time if you're just doing something small like this; there are many Linux distributions (including Ubuntu, incidentally) available as a "Live CD" or "Live DVD" that the computer boots off of directly. No installation required.
The location of the SD card will be under /dev/. If your Linu install actually tries to mount the SD card, you can type "mount" in the console to see all current mounted devices, which should make it easy to figure out which is the SD card.
jhoff80 said:
If I'm not mistaken, there's two different types of security being used; there's the kind being used on the HD2, and then there's the kind being used on native WP7 phones. Does this method work with the latter? As far as I know, no other method except the Symbian trick will work with a card that's fully locked.
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Works with the latter. And I think it works with all security methods I guess since it overrides all bytes with a linux ext3 partition. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Installing Ubuntu from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer besides Windows is faster than burning a live cd or something like that.
Also sd card mount location can also be /media/.
Please try my suggestion and fill me in where I have forgotten something, since I don't fully remember the steps I took.
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Please try my suggestion and fill me in where I have forgotten something, since I don't fully remember the steps I took.
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Your suggestions are useless for all handsets except HD2 because of security scheme used by MS. Try to search forum first before posting - it's a very well known issue with 100% proved resolution (Nokia's handsets).
Thank you for reply.
I did search, for hours. And you're right, I did it for the HD2.
So I will alter title for HD2 only.
romusters said:
For the HTC HD2 only (someone said in this thread)
Format won't help since it won't unlock your sd card and won't delete the internal protection. You need to do the following.
1. start linux (install ubuntu besides windows or something)
2. put card in computer
3. unmount sd card with "umount"
4. format sd card with "mke2fs /location-of-sd-card/"
5. go to windows and format as fat32 or just put it in your phone.
6. thank me
Windows or your phone will say it's broken or something and will repair.
The mango security is no more and your sd card is revived.
If I did something wrong, let me know, it's my first post.
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you don't need linux for this, in windows you can use diskpart
- type diskpart in the runwindow (winkey + r)
- in diskpart type "list disk" without quotes
- type "select disk x", x represents the disknumber in the left collum, be carefull to select the right one, you don't want to erase your external hd or anything like that.
- type "clean", ALL partitions will now be removed from the card, as well as an mbr or bootsector wich might be there if you ever made it bootable. Your card is now not more than an expensive brick
- type "create partition primary", a new primary partition will be created as big as possible (16GB in your case)
- type active if you want to set the partition active
spikeymouse said:
you don't need linux for this, in windows you can use diskpart
- type diskpart in the runwindow (winkey + r)
- in diskpart type "list disk" without quotes
- type "select disk x", x represents the disknumber in the left collum, be carefull to select the right one, you don't want to erase your external hd or anything like that.
- type "clean", ALL partitions will now be removed from the card, as well as an mbr or bootsector wich might be there if you ever made it bootable. Your card is now not more than an expensive brick
- type "create partition primary", a new primary partition will be created as big as possible (16GB in your case)
- type active if you want to set the partition active
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that doesn't work for me, it's not finding the disk (no media) .. going to try ubuntu now
@romusters: The mount point will be in /media. The *device* will be in /dev/ and must not be confused with the mount point. It's the equivalent of confusing C:\ (mount point, Linux equivalent is / (root), people generally know what it is) and \\.\PhysicalDrive0 or \\.\C: (device and volume respectively, equivalent to /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 or similar).
Since a mount point relies on the device being mountable in the first place (which means it has a filesystem the OS recognizes and has a driver for), I'd be mildly surprised if there even is a mount point when a WP7-locked SD card is inserted into a PC. Quite possibly if it comes from an HD2, very unlikely if it comes from anything that ships with WP7 (since WP7 locks SD cards so that even things like the Filesystem ID can't be read).
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that doesn't work for me, it's not finding the disk (no media) .. going to try ubuntu now
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Don't do it, it will not help you. Find Nokia smartphone and re-format sd card instead. Read my post about this problem : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12179672&postcount=79
ahah, another thread from another "i discovered a crucial tweak no one knows!!!" guy...who didn't search a minute in the forum before dropping his shthing...
can't imagine what's going in their minds, trying to teach something poor & useless...
just having a look to threads : there are enough (but never really enough) skilled people here to find some tricks that other "average" people can't...
i believe the main illness of our societies is that even really young people think himself as an important/irreplaceable person...
we need more thoughts & humility. then there will be less pollution in that forum.
NebZoNe said:
ahah, another thread from another "i discovered a crucial tweak no one knows!!!" guy...who didn't search a minute in the forum before dropping his shthing...
can't imagine what's going in their minds, trying to teach something poor & useless...
just having a look to threads : there are enough (but never really enough) skilled people here to find some tricks that other "average" people can't...
i believe the main illness of our societies is that even really young people think himself as an important/irreplaceable person...
we need more thoughts & humility. then there will be less pollution in that forum.
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I am an artificial intelligence university student who put several hours into this. I searched the forum for hours and came with my own solution which didn't exist.
The solution took me hours and hours and it worked.
Moved To HD2 WP7 Q&A
This is a device specific [A] answer, so it belongs in the HD2 WP7 Q&A section. Pleas refer to the mod sticky before posting in this section!
Or you can download partition managing software like minitool partition wizard and delete every partition you see on your SD card after putting it inside a SD card reader (IMPORTANT!) Works perfectly for me. If not then please PM me
romusters said:
For the HTC HD2 only (someone said in this thread)
Format won't help since it won't unlock your sd card and won't delete the internal protection.
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Will this work on a SD card that is not recognisable in windows i.e bricked - Windows does not even see it.
This is what i have found:
I have Back to the Future [XBmod-Yuki] Rom running and DEV_STORAGELOCK.cab installed.
I had a friend who wanted to go back to WM6.5 but forgot to unlock card before flashing WM6.5 so he found himself with an useless card (encripted).
This is what i did:
With my phone (HD2 WP7) in standby, removed my sd card and put his encripted card in my phone then run the storagelock app and it starts and it seems it does nothing and returns to initial screen. After that i put my phone in standby again remove the encripted card and put my card again.
Then put the encripted card in card adapter and my pc recognized the card, used SD FORMATER with format adjustment on and the card is good again.
hope this help someone.
Related
PROBLEM:
Now, the problem all started when try to format the micro SDHC on the phone or on the PC with card reader.
Tried with differ format program also low level not worked.
DONT USE THESE!!! Waste of time!!!
SOLUTION:
So after doing some thinking about the situation, I figured that there was a problem with the card inserted and find the file EncFiltLog on it.
It is the WM 6.1 encription file. You can't delete, move files from or in to the SDHC.
The best way to solve this issue, as the hard-reset DOES NOTHING to fix this issue, would be to have windows hopefully find the connected device and format it. Here are the EASY steps which DO NOT involve using a dozen computers and has provided the same result EVERY time; which is a working on my 8gig memory in my HTC HD.
1. Connect the HD to the computer and select DISK DRIVE as the option on the on-screen popup on your phone. Don’t select ACTIVE SYNC. If you miss it, then go into your phone and press START>SETTINGS>CONNECTIONS TAB>USB to PC and select the bullet of DISK DRIVE and hit ok.
2. On your computer, (USING A WINDOWS XP MACHINE), go into your "My computer"
3. A window for will open with two columns.(If not, change the view to "Group") We are looking at the RIGHT side right now. In there is has three categories, and we are only focusing on ONE of them. LOOK for STORAGE which should be the center category.
4. Click with right to the desired "Storage device; A: ; D: E;", it will take a minute or two depending on your computer speed and environment to populate your hard drive and connected memory devices.
5. You will eventually see your PHONE internal storage listed. IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME BECAUSE YOUR PHONE INTERNAL STORAGE IS CORRUPTED!
***BE SURE WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS IN FACT YOUR PHONE AND NOTHING SOMETHING ELSE LIKE YOUR MAIN HARD DRIVE OR SOME OTHER STORAGE DEVICE WITH IMPORTANT FILES ON THERE***
****I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU FORMAT THE WRONG DEVICE***
6. Choose format and let it format the drive. This should also take a few minutes. Select FAT32 and name is whatever you want! Let this finish COMPLETLY!
**Your almost done**
7. Now you can copy, anything you want on it, but if you put again in to the PDA then the
EncFiltLog will come on again. But at least you not have to throw away the card,
you can use it again.
8. Finally my last comment:
If you want to speed up the card (.cab installation, copy, move ...etc.....)
the best way after all this work listed above, you should made a BACKUP from all your PERSONALITIES and
make a HARD RESET.
After it should speed up all the programs and processions with the card.
If you done then one IMPORTANT THING!:
YOU SHOULD NEVER EVER TAP ON THE CARD ENCRIPTION IN THE SETTINGS,
NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!!
Hope this helps you all out!!
BTW: I want to say thanks to XDA-FORUM (all people) to make my life easier
and to found the right gadgets to use, to play and enjoy it....
Wow - not bad at all for a first post!
Welcome to the forum!
Thanks for providing a solution!
krnkris said:
PROBLEM:
Now, the problem all started when try to format the micro SDHC on the phone or on the PC with card reader.
Tried with differ format program also low level not worked.
DONT USE THESE!!! Waste of time!!!
SOLUTION:
So after doing some thinking about the situation, I figured that there was a problem with the card inserted and find the file EncFiltLog on it.
It is the WM 6.1 encription file. You can't delete, move files from or in to the SDHC.
The best way to solve this issue, as the hard-reset DOES NOTHING to fix this issue, would be to have windows hopefully find the connected device and format it. Here are the EASY steps which DO NOT involve using a dozen computers and has provided the same result EVERY time; which is a working on my 8gig memory in my HTC HD.
1. Connect the HD to the computer and select DISK DRIVE as the option on the on-screen popup on your phone. Don’t select ACTIVE SYNC. If you miss it, then go into your phone and press START>SETTINGS>CONNECTIONS TAB>USB to PC and select the bullet of DISK DRIVE and hit ok.
2. On your computer, (USING A WINDOWS XP MACHINE), go into your "My computer"
3. A window for will open with two columns.(If not, change the view to "Group") We are looking at the RIGHT side right now. In there is has three categories, and we are only focusing on ONE of them. LOOK for STORAGE which should be the center category.
4. Click with right to the desired "Storage device; A: ; D: E;", it will take a minute or two depending on your computer speed and environment to populate your hard drive and connected memory devices.
5. You will eventually see your PHONE internal storage listed. IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME BECAUSE YOUR PHONE INTERNAL STORAGE IS CORRUPTED!
***BE SURE WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS IN FACT YOUR PHONE AND NOTHING SOMETHING ELSE LIKE YOUR MAIN HARD DRIVE OR SOME OTHER STORAGE DEVICE WITH IMPORTANT FILES ON THERE***
****I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU FORMAT THE WRONG DEVICE***
6. Choose format and let it format the drive. This should also take a few minutes. Select FAT32 and name is whatever you want! Let this finish COMPLETLY!
**Your almost done**
7. Now you can copy, anything you want on it, but if you put again in to the PDA then the
EncFiltLog will come on again. But at least you not have to throw away the card,
you can use it again.
8. Finally my last comment:
If you want to speed up the card (.cab installation, copy, move ...etc.....)
the best way after all this work listed above, you should made a BACKUP from all your PERSONALITIES and
make a HARD RESET.
After it should speed up all the programs and processions with the card.
If you done then one IMPORTANT THING!:
YOU SHOULD NEVER EVER TAP ON THE CARD ENCRIPTION IN THE SETTINGS,
NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!!
Hope this helps you all out!!
BTW: I want to say thanks to XDA-FORUM (all people) to make my life easier
and to found the right gadgets to use, to play and enjoy it....
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Yesterday it happens for the second time that my SD-Card gets corrupt again, the first time it happens with a 8 Gb SDHC Sandisk and now with a 16 Gb.! After a hard-reset.Didn't know before I read this post that this could happen ever!??
And indeed I couldn't write or read on the card or format it again, even with a cardreader!
Both cards are useless about €120,- thrown away, gone
Didn't know before I read this post, that this is an WM 6.1 encription issue. Never used or even tap it.
Now I format another 8Gb like the way you describe here, i hope that when i need to do another hard-reset i can use the card again!
BTW, its a little bit strange to me that there are so little reaction from other users here about EncFiltLog problem?
I hope that there will come a solution in WM 6.1 to prevent that b!llsh!t.
Thanks for the great support, i hope it realy works!
Nice post
I have one more question:
What may happen when I delete this encryption file? Is it possible?
P.S. Sorry for my english :/
Hi Everyone!
The best way, if you purchase a new card, to FORMAT at first.
Then you put in to your phone and try not to teke it out any more.
If you want to use it as USB reader the as I write in my first post
START>SETTINGS>CONNECTIONS TAB>USB to PC and select the bullet of DISK DRIVE and hit ok .
In this case you can use the phone as a card reader.
It is speed up the file transfer vs. ACTIVESYNC.
If the card is not recognised ether way then,
because of the too much taking out - - put it back; went to faulty.
You can go back to the store for guarantee replacement.
The EncFiltLog is a problem only if you encrypted the card.
The solution to delete it and use as new card described in my first post.
If you put a new card in to the Phone then this file seem to be created by the OP system.
You can delete with format, but it will come back again and again.
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You can delete with format, but it will come back again and again.
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Your right, the file is still there again!
But I have also a question about a next( hope not) hardreset on my device!
Is it better to format the SD-card (with USB on the device) before or after the hard-reset to save the further use of the card?
Because in my experience you have to start installing everything over again, because the data on the card was anyway corrupt and useless.
It is NOT recommended to use the MS Windows Format command to re-format any SDHC card - it will format them, of course, but with the wrong cluster size, slowing access speed down and possibly causing other problems.
I would suggest to always use a tool like Panasonic's SD Formatter when formating any kind of SD card. You can get it here: http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/sd_formatter.html
-Valynor
Valynor said:
It is NOT recommended to use the MS Windows Format command to re-format any SDHC card - it will format them, of course, but with the wrong cluster size, slowing access speed down and possibly causing other problems.
I would suggest to always use a tool like Panasonic's SD Formatter when formating any kind of SD card. You can get it here: http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/sd_formatter.html
-Valynor
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Also good to know, but does it also prevent or solve that EncFiltLog problem?
Is there no registry tweak to turn off or delete that W 6.1 encryption option anyway?
luckyuser said:
Also good to know, but does it also prevent or solve that EncFiltLog problem?
Is there no registry tweak to turn off or delete that W 6.1 encryption option anyway?
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No as far as I know.
Will creating a read-only, hidden folder called "EncFltLog.menc" on the card prevent this problem?
Phil_123 said:
Will creating a read-only, hidden folder called "EncFltLog.menc" on the card prevent this problem?
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What do you mean?How do you do?
HI folks, glad to find some peeps who are suffering from the same problem...
The solution here seems not to work for me, as I hard-reset my TouchHD before I found out about that encryption ****up...
Is there any solution that allows you to reformat the card?
Not to mention that I NEVER touched that damn encryption option as I really never trust M$ that far with my data... seems it got me Pwned anyways...
Anyone ever tried to Write M$, tell them what a bunch of wacky Ho's they are and demand a new miniSD Card from them?
sorry for my language but atm I mad as hell as I just lost a 8GB and a 16GB sanDisk...
I experienced a lot of bc during all the yaers messing with M$ stuff but this ****up ins unbelievable...
I had the same problem with my 8gb sandisk.
I would like to add that I was able to retrieve most of my files from the memory card using EASEUS Data Recovery Wizard Professional. You need to do the data recovery before attempting to reformat the card.
Hi guys sorry for messing around in your forum but this post is the closest solution to my problem. I cannot format or save anything to my 16gb sandisk card because of that bloody encryption file. Now the problem is that I'm a Kaiser user and I do not have disk mode in my phone, so has anyone successfully formatted their card without using disk mode?
one very quik question. Does this fix the problem for good? you can use the sdhc card with the phone or will it always end up with menc file?
card unreadable in one night
Yesterday, my sdhc 8gb card was working properly but in just one night something happened to it. In the morning, I came to know that it is not more being recognized by htc hd2. Every time I soft reset or hard reset the phone a message come up saying "Do you want to format this storage card to make it readable? this will permanently delete any files on the card." when I click no nothing happens and phone keeps on working and if I click yes then the card is formatted in just 1 second. I tried formatting the card myself from phone format tool (there is format card tool in tools section of the phone) but it is showing only 30.61 mb instead of 8gb.
After reading this thread, I think the problem is with EncFiltLog. Actually I backup my phone and card yesterday with sprite backup. I also backup EncFiltLog on my pc. Now after hard resetting the phone I delete the newly created EncFiltLog file by the fresh WM 6.5 installation after hard reset. I deleted that file from my pc by using the phone card storage as disk drive instead of activesync and simply shift+delete the file from removable storage in My computer. After that I copied all the phone card backup (including EncFiltLog - old one) on the freshly hard reset phone. Now all of sudden in just one night phone sdhc card is not able to recognized by phone.
Moral of the story: Never backup EncFiltLog. Keep the newly created EncFiltLog file by wm 6.5 after hard reset and copy your all files and folder from card backup to phone card (excluding EncFiltLog) after a hard reset. Don't ever overwrite the newly created EncFiltLog.menc file with old one from backup.
Reason: I think WM 6.5 pairs the newly created EncFiltLog with its some key on phone internal storage. Remember how encryption works? I am talking about public key and private key pairing. I think WM6.5 pairs one key stored in EncFiltLog with another key stored inside the phone interal storage which is itself freshly created after the hard reset but when we copy the old EncFiltLog from storage card backup to freshly hard reset phone storage card, those key pairs won't match anymore and windows mobile 6.5 simply locks up the card.
it is my own opinion.
One more clue
Ok guys, I've got one more clue after googling and reading other threads on this forum. May be HTC is supplying fake 8gb sdhc card with hd2.
I've came on that conclusion because yesterday there was more than 5 gb space left on my phone storage card. In the night RSS Hub software has updated all the feeds and stored those feeds on storage card (I've set feeds to be stored on storage card). I think something has been gone wrong there. May be the actual capacity of this fake storage cards in far less than what is written/claimed on the card (i.e. 8gb). In the night as soon as the RSS Hub stored feed on the card, it somehow corrupted the card FAT writting its data on sectors of the card where it should not be.
Hence the card is corrupted now just showing 30.61 mb instead of 8gb. There exists no solution for this situtation till now. I've sent mail to HTC regarding this on their customer support page. Let's see what would happen now. I suspect either HTC or my dealer would say that the storage card don't come under warranty. Let's see now. I will update the thread soon.
My problem is the same.....
after HSPL I faced "Do you want to format this storage card to make it readable?..." and after that I lost my mSD.
Format Storage Card didn't worked. it shows 30.61MB , Cluster Size: 0KB
also Clear Storage didn't worked...
System > Memory > Storage Card > Total storage card memory: Not installed
Is there any other way to fix this problem? because of my country, it is difficult to use HTC Service...
First off, to eliminate the flamers 1)I know you don't need to partition your SD Card (i've been running android on 2 SD cards for around a month now) 2)I know it won't make my device run any faster.
The question is though If i partition my memory card to have the 3 partitons: ext, linux swap, and fat32, will this mean that on the main part of the memory card that my windows mobile can see that i won't have all of the various folders that the Android OS creates (i.e: .android_secure, .bookmark_thumb1, rosie_scroll?
The reason i ask is i want to have my memory card as clean as possible so that within my windows mobile build that it is still very organized.
Thanks for any help you can offer. If you are going to reply simply to say use the search, I have, I've read and thank you very much, you can now move on to the next topic to type that.
I also have the same question.
How get clean memmory card from Android folders?
Or how to install Android in folder (sdcard/Android/all android folders)
Than my WM folders will use (sdcard/WM folders)
I second either of these as to keep my mem card tidy from all the android folders created and mixed up with my WM files.
Well since no one seems to know the answer or isn't willing to share, I am going to try doing this within the next two days and will report back on whether or not it works.
How would each OS know what partition belongs to it?
gaiden0000 said:
Well since no one seems to know the answer or isn't willing to share, I am going to try doing this within the next two days and will report back on whether or not it works.
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Nice to hear that! I think there is 2 ways:
with partition on sdcard
change Android install place to place in folder
Somone who build Android roms can try to change location where android install apps.
juggs said:
How would each OS know what partition belongs to it?
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If you crate partition for linux (ext...) windows will not show, read and find it.Also WM will not read files on linux partition but I think that linux still will read both. Dono how it is on Android but in Ubuntu on PC it works.
SD partitioning works great!
This is how to create partitions on your SD card: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=267475
I tried it - and it works. WinMo shows two storage cards - 'Storage Card' and 'Storage Card 2'. The first one is the Active partition - which is my Android partition.
When you are in WinMo and installing WinMo software, you are given the choice of where to install it - and it shows both storage cards. So in effect you can have all that is WinMo on one partition and all that is Android on another. Android is working nicely from its own partition.
I must say - this is the first time my Android is working sooooooo well. As well as my wife's HTC Desire device. It is a noticeable difference - the same Android build worked quite sluggishly before this exercise. It is either because I am using a freshly formatted partition, or because it has its own partition now.
My partitions were formatted with FAT32, 32KB unit allocation size. I am using ChuckyDroid ROM and currently testing this Android build Core_Droid_V.0.2.
Yeey ! " ... after action - satisfaction .. "
Hi,
I'm trying to keep up with the thread on the development forumm but theres to mach going on there.
Can someone please explain what's that they are saying that the rom is locking the sd card and the tonight there will be another rom?
What all this about? whats the difference between the current rom and the new one?
Thanks
it locks the sd card meaning the sd can no longer be used as a regular sd card and will only work on a windows phone 7 device
yeah, at the moment, you have two choices
use the V1 ROM and be able to upgrade your ROM, you can install android still, you can not upgrade to 7712 / 7720 AND have access to your SD card UNLESS you lock the SD card
the second choice is use V2 ROM, this will lock your SD card from the start and enable updates to be much easier
Locking the SD card means that it can not be used at all on another device, Currently there isnt any software that can format the protected portion of the card, some hardware devices can format it, Some Nokia phones, some camera
Locking is actually very useful unless you want android on the same SD card
If you do want to use Android as well then get a second SD card and pop it in when you want to use it.
WP7 its self CAN clear a protected SD card but it will keep it protected, so you can reflash new WP7 ROMS with protected SD cards without any issues at all, but it will always be protected unless you use a Nokia type device.
You can also format a locked card using your wm6.5 on hd2;-)
Sent from my Schubert using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Thank you all!
pakure said:
You can also format a locked card using your wm6.5 on hd2;-)
Sent from my Schubert using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Not much use when you've got wp7 on it hey (unless you have 2 hd2's of course )
pakure said:
You can also format a locked card using your wm6.5 on hd2;-)
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No, it cannot. It says it is damaged on my topaz.
A buggered up partition table can be fixed with a propper format which is what 99% of people say "fixes" a broken card.
However, a "Protected" Card can not be formatted in this way, im have a chat with the SD association at the moment to see whats what, so far it is a software limitation on the PC that is stopping us clearing that data, in short if someone writes a program to do it, it will do it, the question is how!
can you guys see the partition on a PC partition app but not modify it? Or can you not even see the partition?
orangekid said:
can you guys see the partition on a PC partition app but not modify it? Or can you not even see the partition?
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if a SD card has been locked its essentially unreadable in anything but the device that it was locked in, if you plug a locked (protected) SD card in a PC it will be detected in device manager but windows will not beable to access it, the SD association is a bit vague in their replys but apparently some OSs are able to format a protected card, MS isnt one of them unless there is undocumented flags that can be used at the command prompt, the best bet is probably Linux, I hate using Linux as a desktop but i do have it running as a VM server so i might give that a try a bit later
The funny thing is, its not complicated to do it (apparently) its just no one has really used the protected feature set of the SD standard
Also, (apparently, some SD cards use the protected area to store information other than the encryption key for the whole card, apparently this information might be used in read /write operations on the card, clearing the protected area to remove the SD card lock might have a negative impact on the cards performance.
pakure said:
You can also format a locked card using your wm6.5 on hd2;-)
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Sorry, but it is confirmed. Windows Mobile 6.5 can not. Apparently Ubuntu does, I am testing!
dazza9075 said:
if a SD card has been locked its essentially unreadable in anything but the device that it was locked in, if you plug a locked (protected) SD card in a PC it will be detected in device manager but windows will not beable to access it, the SD association is a bit vague in their replys but apparently some OSs are able to format a protected card, MS isnt one of them unless there is undocumented flags that can be used at the command prompt, the best bet is probably Linux, I hate using Linux as a desktop but i do have it running as a VM server so i might give that a try a bit later
The funny thing is, its not complicated to do it (apparently) its just no one has really used the protected feature set of the SD standard
Also, (apparently, some SD cards use the protected area to store information other than the encryption key for the whole card, apparently this information might be used in read /write operations on the card, clearing the protected area to remove the SD card lock might have a negative impact on the cards performance.
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Interesting. I did a few experiments and a whole heap of reading about this yesterday (Osx doesnt recognise the card either btw):
The card became locked during the update process from 7712 to 7720 during one of the many hard resets i did whilst installing the cabs (the sd fix cab was the last cab i installed). My mistake was not bothering to change the language from its default (English USA to English UK) so it would appear the card is also not only locked to a particular device but its language also.
One could test this by inserting the card, hard resetting and choosing USA as its language, however, it took 4 hours to get the device working to 7720 so im not doing that just yet; so i tried something else.
I put the encrypted card into my hd2, entered magldr and cleared the partition using services. I then entered usb mass storage and connected the device to my PC (win 7 x64). Whilst the card was not recognised in "my computer", if you look in camera&scanners in control panel, you will see magldr is recognised as a mass storage device but the device drivers for this fail to install properly. This is probably due to the "unknown" partition taking up the full capacity of the micro sd card and why it is not recognised by the PC hence it cannot be used for storage.
Unfortunately this also means no partition software will recognise the card, nor is it recognised in any digi camera, even after allegedly clearing the partitions via magldr.
I then had a thought would a nokia emulator work in unlocking the card? to which i havent researched any further as yet.
**EDIT** Apparently someone has decrypted and formatted a card using Ubuntu, im off to download and try it
**EDIT 2** not having much luck with ubuntu either, card not recognised........
same here, ubuntu disk manager (11.04 32-bit) shows sd card but 2.2 TB and can't format the drive or volume (i tried the same to clear mbr using magldr), ubuntu is not working
WEll, they havent been much further use, all they say is that is perfectly possible to do with software, the APIs have been there for years, its just that no one has ever really paid much attention to it, with the exception of Sat-Navs, professional Music gear etc.
Ive not had a chance to play with Linux yet but i would imagin that you need to think lower level than partition / MBR levels
From what i can gather from their cryptic responses is that when a SD card is setup to use the Secure feature, the device creates a key in the secure section, only that device can then access that section, the storage space on the card is then encrypted using that key, there is no way short of cracking the key to get access to either the secure section or the storage section. However, when you use an OS or Utility that makes use of the Secure protected area its possible to clear it, this would clear all the data obviously off the card, even disk analysers wouldnt be able to see it as it would still be encrypted.
What is concerning is that the Manufacturers have grown used to this special area and use it, apparently this area is used for IO operations, (probably some kind of cache or superfetch) this speeds things up by predicting what you are going to access next
What concerning is, if you have a class 10 device that as we all ready know uses methods to speed up sequential speeds to get that class rating, IF we manage to clear that protected area will the card be effected in terms of speed, conversly, could it improve random access speeds (WP7 essential) if its not farting around trying to predict sequential IO ops!
dazza9075 said:
yeah, at the moment, you have two choices
use the V1 ROM and be able to upgrade your ROM, you can install android still, you can not upgrade to 7712 / 7720 AND have access to your SD card UNLESS you lock the SD card
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Of course you can update!
I am using V1 and have the 7720 build
has anyone been able to (in windows or linux) copy the partition on the card without modifying or formatting or anything? Just copying the partition to another card?
orangekid said:
has anyone been able to (in windows or linux) copy the partition on the card without modifying or formatting or anything? Just copying the partition to another card?
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Nope, the card is not recognised, im working on it.
timmymarsh said:
Nope, the card is not recognised, im working on it.
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I'm going to try as well. If we can just get a recognition/copy to work, then we can do dual-boot again. There has to be some way to copy the entire partition.
Finalforce1111 said:
Of course you can update!
I am using V1 and have the 7720 build
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read it again,
note the big "AND"
you can not dual boot Mango 7712/7720 and android on V1
you can not dual boot at all with V2
you cant copy encrypted partitions, it doesnt work that way, its not like making a encrypted folder, its on a much lower level than that, its either encrypted or its not, you either have Mango or you have Nodo AND android
I still cant get the Protected SD formatted, im wondering if its reliant on the card reader supporting those commands.....
Mm the secret I think is gaining access to the hidden part of the card that contains the encryption key. I'm still working on Ubuntu and have a lead to follow up on.
Your right about the droid dual boot, this isn't my intention so others shouldn't get their hopes up ;-)
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Hi,
I intended to post this question to the [3.Nov.2012][ROM] NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.2 [NativeSD] thread, but not allowed to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32624318)
Can someone help me redirect the question? Thanks!
First thanks for the great ROM, tytung. It looks great and easy to install.
I have a HD2 and wanted to dual boot WP7 and Android. Found this new method NativeSD and decided to try it. But once I installed the ROM (through MAGLDR 1.13 and Recovery 4Ext 2.2.7), everything works fine, except that the camera app (and other apps) says that it cannot find the external SD card to save the pictures. It does not give me options to save on phone. But since both system and data are on external SD, and that partition is treated as /mnt/sdcard0, I am not sure if I am supposed to have an external SD card from the perspective of Android.
Cannot seem to find similar post with this issue, so I must be doing something wrong with partitioning. Could you help??? Thanks so much! I am inches away from having a great Android JellyBean experience on my HD2.
Thanks!!!
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Details:
4 partitions on my 16GB SD card:
1) FAT32, 3GB (this is the boot partition, where I installed Recovery 4Ext and through it, installed the boot files in /NativeSD)
2) Ext4, 8GB (this is the system/data partition, where installation put all Android files)
3) Ext4, 2GB (this is current empty, reserved for another ROM that requires two partitions)
4) Other, 2GB (this is a WP7 partition)
I formatted these using Mini Partition Tool on Windows (not via Recovery 4Ext)
I think you need to run CHKDSK on your FAT32 partition of the card with fix option, once, using a card reader and computer. Once done, put the card back to your phone and boot to your preferred Native SD rom. Then check whether you applications are able to trace the SD card. Should work, since the same worked for me, when I had a similar issue. Hope that helps.
dheerajk27 said:
I think you need to run CHKDSK on your FAT32 partition of the card with fix option, once, using a card reader and computer. Once done, put the card back to your phone and boot to your preferred Native SD rom. Then check whether you applications are able to trace the SD card. Should work, since the same worked for me, when I had a similar issue. Hope that helps.
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Hi dheerajk27, thanks for your quick reply. Was wondering
1) should Android JB think that I have an external SD?
2) where will this external SD be mapped to? The Fat32 partition? The same Ext4 partition as system & data?
3) what would chkdsk do? I just want to make sure that it doesn't mess up the Win 7 stuff as well.
Thanks!
Hi braveliquid, welcome to the forum.
Did you set all your partitions as primary using minitool?
1. yes
2. depends photos/music => fat part, apps=>ext part
3. not sure either
Robbie P said:
Hi braveliquid, welcome to the forum.
Did you set all your partitions as primary using minitool?
1. yes
2. depends photos/music => fat part, apps=>ext part
3. not sure either
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Thanks for your reply. Upon multiple trial and error, I found out that the logical partition is the culprit. When I have 3 primary (FAT32, Ext4, Ext4), Android can recognize the ext SD card. However, when I have 3 primary and 1 logical (the Win Phone 7 partition is made logical by windows), then Android does not recognize the ext SD card anymore.
Any thought on how I can resolve this? Or else I will have to keep 2 SD cards, one for WP7, and one for Android. Doable, but a bit of a hassle.
Thanks!
use minitool and set your wp7 partition as primary too.
Problem solved.
you could use two cards, i am at the moment (I keep spare card in a cellotape pocket on inside of battery cover). You can also dual boot without partitioning see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34009754&postcount=1126 but only really as a backup phone in case wp7 goes wrong and you are away from pc.
Robbie P said:
use minitool and set your wp7 partition as primary too.
Problem solved.
you could use two cards, i am at the moment (I keep spare card in a cellotape pocket on inside of battery cover). You can also dual boot without partitioning see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34009754&postcount=1126 but only really as a backup phone in case wp7 goes wrong and you are away from pc.
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Thanks Robbie. Yes, I have set the WP7 partition as primary and then it works! I am liking the Android experience (have been using iPhone).
Btw, in WP7, it is asking me to update software (I have a very old WP7 installation, migrated to dual boot in early 2011 i think). Can I just upgrade WP7 like normal (i.e. by connecting to Zune)? Or will that destroy MAGLDR? If that won't work, how can I upgrade WP7 to 7.5 or later 7.8? I cannot use Windows Market Place apparently with the old WP7 OS.
Thanks again!
braveliquid said:
Thanks Robbie. Yes, I have set the WP7 partition as primary and then it works! I am liking the Android experience (have been using iPhone).
Btw, in WP7, it is asking me to update software (I have a very old WP7 installation, migrated to dual boot in early 2011 i think). Can I just upgrade WP7 like normal (i.e. by connecting to Zune)? Or will that destroy MAGLDR? If that won't work, how can I upgrade WP7 to 7.5 or later 7.8? I cannot use Windows Market Place apparently with the old WP7 OS.
Thanks again!
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I would just flash one of the new wp7.8 roms, your choice which. Ansar's does not seem to be able to use the new wpbackup app at the moment.
With Hd2o and pdaimatejam you can backup your phone and restore apps sms calls etc. Sooo much better for trying out new roms.
Robbie P said:
I would just flash one of the new wp7.8 roms, your choice which. Ansar's does not seem to be able to use the new wpbackup app at the moment.
With Hd2o and pdaimatejam you can backup your phone and restore apps sms calls etc. Sooo much better for trying out new roms.
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:good: Will be another weekend "project" =)
Thanks!
Hey Guys
I had a quick look around the forum and on Google, but I didn't see anyone else having found this out, so here it is...
You go into MADLDR, SERVICES, and then CLEAR SD MBR, which will delete the partitioning. Then, if you use EaseUS partition master (google it) to create a primary FAT32 partition and then format it, it will recognize it in another android phone (well, it did in my xperia play).
If somebody else who has a HD2 and another android phone could give it a go and let me know if it works, I would be grateful.
AND.... please hit thanks if it works for you!
EDIT: Actually, if you just CLEAR SD MBR in MAGLDR, SERVICES, then put the SD card in another phone, it asks if you want to format it. Then you don't have to mess about with EaseUS partition manager! Result!!
if card used with Yuki ROM must unlock first with cab file or formatted in old Nokia phones
SD cards from all others (Pdaimatejam, ansar, HD2Owner...) is easy format with SDFormatter (in option must select "format size adjustment)
next time look here on forum.. too much posts about this is here...
waste of space
Mate, what a waste of space - sounds like your SDCard was never "locked" in the first place
Well, actually it 'was' locked, because I put it in my xperia play and it didn't recognize it until I did this. Also, don't speak to me like that - it's very rude.
builtonRock said:
Well, actually it 'was' locked, because I put it in my xperia play and it didn't recognize it until I did this. Also, don't speak to me like that - it's very rude.
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no is not locked... other phones cant read WP7 partition... locked sd card is when you cant format it...
builtonRock said:
Well, actually it 'was' locked, because I put it in my xperia play and it didn't recognize it until I did this. Also, don't speak to me like that - it's very rude.
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If you had searched you would have found the thread mentioned below, rather than wasting space here - it is not rude to be honest.
See thread devoted to this
Confirmed Devices for unlocking WP7 encrypted SD Cards
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242071
See my comment:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32978094&postcount=220
the three possibilities:
1. fully LOCKED and Win O/S UNRECOGNIZED SDCards - happens when you have a problem with the WP7 install (only a Nokia device will unlock)
vs
2. A Rom locked SDcard, such as locked by Yuki and Xboxmod's rom (needs DEV_STORAGELOCK.cab or Nokia device to unlock)
vs
3. Win O/S RECOGNIZED but unreadable SDCards (with the standard 200 partition of the newer WP7 roms).
Whatdoyaknow said:
If you had searched you would have found the thread mentioned below, rather than wasting space here - it is not rude to be honest.
See thread devoted to this
Confirmed Devices for unlocking WP7 encrypted SD Cards
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242071
See my comment:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32978094&postcount=220
the three possibilities:
1. fully LOCKED and Win O/S UNRECOGNIZED SDCards - happens when you have a problem with the WP7 install (only a Nokia device will unlock)
vs
2. A Rom locked SDcard, such as locked by Yuki and Xboxmod's rom (needs DEV_STORAGELOCK.cab or Nokia device to unlock)
vs
3. Win O/S RECOGNIZED but unreadable SDCards (with the standard 200 partition of the newer WP7 roms).
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Ok, my bad...
This is slightly off topic, but its the most relevant place I could find for this question. I currently have a tri-boot setup with Pdaimatejam Windows Phone 7.8 and NativeSD android. Is it possible for me to interchange Windows Phone roms (downgrade to 7.5) and have the new ROM detect the windows partition straight out, or will I have to start from scratch again and reformat all partitions?
lkashl said:
This is slightly off topic, but its the most relevant place I could find for this question. I currently have a tri-boot setup with Pdaimatejam Windows Phone 7.8 and NativeSD android. Is it possible for me to interchange Windows Phone roms (downgrade to 7.5) and have the new ROM detect the windows partition straight out, or will I have to start from scratch again and reformat all partitions?
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I'm pretty sure you have to start again from the beginning and reformat all the partitions. WP7 always reformats the SD when it does the setup.
builtonRock said:
I'm pretty sure you have to start again from the beginning and reformat all the partitions. WP7 always reformats the SD when it does the setup.
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Thats what I ended up doing Thanks!
I can not fix my SD Card! Please help
Hi, I followed your tips but no lucky. I have 16g SD card, after install WP7 (first time) with two steps in Magldr (Services->UseLast24... and Services->Clear MBR), now my card can not recognized. So please help me !!!
bachpv508 said:
Hi, I followed your tips but no lucky. I have 16g SD card, after install WP7 (first time) with two steps in Magldr (Services->UseLast24... and Services->Clear MBR), now my card can not recognized. So please help me !!!
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you followed wrong tips...
you need format card with this
https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/SDFormatter4exe.zip
in Option before format turn on "format size adjustment"
if you used YUKI ROM (BTTF) then you must unlock card before format...
am having the same problem
how do I. use a SD card from a windows phone in another. if you don't help me at least I get 16gb of unusable space
in post before yours i write how to format card and give link...