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SFR + voodoo audio best kernel

These are my observations, yours may vary. I was noticing crackling pops and clicks in audio with srf 1.1 and twilight 1.1 kernel whenever I was scrolling around in web pages or in album lists in the stock player. That made multitasking annoying with headphones, so I tried a few other srf rom/kernel combinations.
I tried kernels twilight 1.1, 1.0.4, genocide 1.4a, and vision 1.1. With srf 1.1 and 1.0.2.
I believe those kernels cover voodoo sound versions 5,6, and 7. And I used supercurio's latest voodoo sound app from the market. This is a fresh install with newly formatted sdcard, and no setcpu or voltage tweak apps installed.
Srf 1.0.2 with the default twilight 1.0.4 kernel was the only combo without the screen scroll noises in the headphones. (And it sounds amazing, btw!)
Anyone else notice the same?
-- Update 4/16
I have more observations I hope can help with debugging.
In Sfr 1.0.2 + twilight 1.0.4 the primary audio glitching I notice is when using the virtual home, back, menu buttons. in other kernels that glitching also happens when touching the touch screen.
To test, start music playback with headphones (quiet songs, piano, etc, make it easier to hear), open browser, scroll around on a page, click virtual menu or back button. Notice glitching. Now try hardware kb menu key, no glitching! This makes me think its related to digitizer drivers or scheduling. Hope this helps!
--Update 4/17
I just tested Vision kernel 1.2 with SRF 1.0.2. It has the same glitchy audio behavior as 1.1 on screen touch and virtual buttons. Twilight 1.0.4 kernel remains my choice.
Kernel devs, let me know if I can be of help. I don't see anything telling in logcat...

Yes,I notice this,and am going crazy trying to figure it out,I'm gonna try that combo and see what happens... Ill also let kOnane aware of this combo working if it does,maybe he can figure out what changed.
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I never experienced the issues with voodoo sound on sfr 1.1. It seems like it varies from user to user.
Fyi: before voodoo sound my car was hitting 172dbs in competition set up. ( world record is 178dbs ) yes I use my phone for this. With the addition of voodoo sound I hit 173dbs. Everyone that's into mobile audio knows gaining on db on a system as loud as mine is extremely difficult. I gained the 1db keeping sound quality exactly where it was before voodoo sound was introduced.
Fyi2: the headphone amplifier in voodoo sound works like a gain on a real world amplifier. Gain does not equal volume. Turning the gain up to far it causes clipping. I wonder if the people hearing the noises had that setting up 2 high in voodoo sound control app. The way the gain works is it controls the cutoff of the power to the output speaker. Giving the speaker to much power it clips. Not enuff power it sounds muffled. The trick is to find the exact db rating on the switch that goes with the power output and the frequency of notes the output speaker reproduces. I run my sub-woofers tuned to hit 28hrtz to 80hrtz ( bass ) Turning the gain to high on those low notes causes clipping. The gain on my amplifier that controls my 80hrtz to 120hrts ( mids ) is set higher then the gain on the other amp cause it needs the higher cutoff. Now the gain on my amplifier for my 120hrtz to 160hrtz ( highs ) is set the highest.
( I tried explaining this so everyone can understand )
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What was your sub and amp setup for this 172db run?
Mind you mentioning 120-160hz as a "high" cross-over range is very... inaccurate. Bass range usually finishes at 150hz while mid range will finish around 1.5khz and while highs are just beyond that.

Maui4x4 said:
What was your sub and amp setup for this 172db run?
Mind you mentioning 120-160hz as a "high" cross-over range is very... inaccurate. Bass range usually finishes at 150hz while mid range will finish around 1.5khz and while highs are just beyond that.
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I'm running all jl audio hd series prototype products and a couple 8" tweeters from audiopipe
I'm aware of this. Hence why I left the comment I did in parentacies. I wanted to keep it simple. My low amplifier reproduces 28hrts to 80hrtz while my mid amplifier picks up 80 to 150hrtz and my high amplifier picks up anything over 150hrtz. My highs amp controls my component speakers and tweeters . my tweeters are then again crossed over again at the 1.5khrtz. The mids amplifier controls my full range speakers while my low amp controls my subs. I can go in depth and give specifics but not everyone would understand.
I'm a lead installer at a custom car shop. We build show cars and my car is no exception
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I never turned the gain up,the pops/clicks is not a clipping sound,and the sound happens when scrolling(finger still on screen)so gain is not the problem.
Edit::: nice setup mystery, bet you have that thing sealed pretty tight...
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ecooce said:
I never turned the gain up,the pops/clicks is not a clipping sound,and the sound happens when scrolling(finger still on screen)so gain is not the problem.
Edit::: nice setup mystery, bet you have that thing sealed pretty tight...
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That's strange cause I for never experienced this my self.
thank you...don't get me started on how it's sealed. Basically every inch if the car has 3 layers of sound deadning
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MysteryEmotionz said:
I never experienced the issues with voodoo sound on sfr 1.1. It seems like it varies from user to user.
Fyi: before voodoo sound my car was hitting 172dbs in competition set up. ( world record is 178dbs ) yes I use my phone for this. With the addition of voodoo sound I hit 173dbs. Everyone that's into mobile audio knows gaining on db on a system as loud as mine is extremely difficult. I gained the 1db keeping sound quality exactly where it was before voodoo sound was introduced.
Fyi2: the headphone amplifier in voodoo sound works like a gain on a real world amplifier. Gain does not equal volume. Turning the gain up to far it causes clipping. I wonder if the people hearing the noises had that setting up 2 high in voodoo sound control app. The way the gain works is it controls the cutoff of the power to the output speaker. Giving the speaker to much power it clips. Not enuff power it sounds muffled. The trick is to find the exact db rating on the switch that goes with the power output and the frequency of notes the output speaker reproduces. I run my sub-woofers tuned to hit 28hrtz to 80hrtz ( bass ) Turning the gain to high on those low notes causes clipping. The gain on my amplifier that controls my 80hrtz to 120hrts ( mids ) is set higher then the gain on the other amp cause it needs the higher cutoff. Now the gain on my amplifier for my 120hrtz to 160hrtz ( highs ) is set the highest.
( I tried explaining this so everyone can understand )
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So, in other words, leave the headphone gain at -10db (default)? I usually bump up the volume to 8-12. Most of the music I listen to is not very bass heavy, mostly ligh to medium thumping. What would my settings in Voodoo or music app be like? Or what should I tweak first in order to get the best sound? Thank you for your help.
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logikgr said:
So, in other words, leave the headphone gain at -10db (default)? I usually bump up the volume to 8-12. Most of the music I listen to is not very bass heavy, mostly ligh to medium thumping. What would my settings in Voodoo or music app be like? Or what should I tweak first in order to get the best sound? Thank you for your help.
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According to ecooce clipping is not the problem. Personally I turn the amplifier to -5db and the type of music I listing to that sounds the best. I listing to a lil bit of everything from rap to country. Rap being what I listing to 65% of the time.
Just an fyi the headphone amplifier on amplifies the sound when using head phones with the 3.5mm jack. ( this includes aux cables )
I suggest playing with the amplifier to you find a setting that best suites you
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MysteryEmotionz said:
I'm running all jl audio hd series prototype products and a couple 8" tweeters from audiopipe
I'm aware of this. Hence why I left the comment I did in parentacies. I wanted to keep it simple. My low amplifier reproduces 28hrts to 80hrtz while my mid amplifier picks up 80 to 150hrtz and my high amplifier picks up anything over 150hrtz. My highs amp controls my component speakers and tweeters . my tweeters are then again crossed over again at the 1.5khrtz. The mids amplifier controls my full range speakers while my low amp controls my subs. I can go in depth and give specifics but not everyone would understand.
I'm a lead installer at a custom car shop. We build show cars and my car is no exception
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what subs are u running because i call bs....

Thanks, ecooce for the post, glad to know I'm not alone.
Def not gain stage clipping. More like clock/cpu stuttering when touching the screen.
mrze, Sounds like a powerful rig!

imtjnotu said:
what subs are u running because i call bs....
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Jl audio w7hd. they'll be on the public market sometime this year
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MysteryEmotionz said:
Jl audio w7hd. they'll be on the public market sometime this year
( don't mind the time stamp. Never set it in my camera )
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Nice and clean man...
Tmuka,if its not fixed in the very next kernel release (which ever that may be) Ill get someone to look at the kernel source to see what's what...
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MysteryEmotionz said:
Jl audio w7hd. they'll be on the public market sometime this year
( don't mind the time stamp. Never set it in my camera )
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sorry bro....im still calling bs....what were the specs to ur box? tuning? how many watts on the amps? ive seen people rock 2 AQ 2200d's on 2 HDC3 15"s and only hit in the 150's...i have friends that rock 4 18 DC level 4's thats still barely hit into the 160's....
and i know all of the new jl hd amps this year do not go over 1200rms....unless u have a video of ur sytem on a termlab testing in the kick or dash and not the port then dont makse such false claims...

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sorry bro....im still calling bs....what were the specs to ur box? tuning? how many watts on the amps? ive seen people rock 2 AQ 2200d's on 2 HDC3 15"s and only hit in the 150's...i have friends that rock 4 18 DC level 4's thats still barely hit into the 160's....
and i know all of the new jl hd amps this year do not go over 1200rms....unless u have a video of ur sytem on a termlab testing in the kick or dash and not the port then dont makse such false claims...
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Those 3 subs are 2,200 rms wired down to 1ohm. The cone of the sub is 14.3. Each one of those amps you see control the sub its lined up with. Those amps push out 2,500 rms with 4,600 peak. 12ga wrire for both positive and negative wires going from amp to sub. The box is tuned around those subs and tuned down to 26hrtz.
Fyi: subs are not the only speakers that produces dbs. The 13 other speakers not including the tweeters and the speakers placed on the outside of the car ( tweeters due account to db reading ) account to db rating.
everything was striped during installation and all the bear metal of the body was done work 3 layers of sound deadning. Even any hole that had no purpose on any of the doors. All the screws where re-tightening to prober torque rating and lock tight was used. The back of the dash and door panels where also covered in sound deadning. All the glass was removed and replaced with reinforced glass ( think bullet proof ) the car is 99.99999% sealed.
Next time I mic the car I will be glad to video record the therma lap at the foot rest and I'll even take a video of the flex.
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ecooce said:
Nice and clean man...
Tmuka,if its not fixed in the very next kernel release (which ever that may be) Ill get someone to look at the kernel source to see what's what...
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Thank you
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This thread is full of audio fail.
http://www.caraudio.com/forums/general-discussion/509640-anyone-heard-w7hd.html#post7559271

whitedragon551 said:
This thread is full of audio fail.
http://www.caraudio.com/forums/general-discussion/509640-anyone-heard-w7hd.html#post7559271
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Just keep hating brother.
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MysteryEmotionz said:
Just keep hating brother.
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No hating, just realism and real world knowledge.
You should head over to caraudio.com and register. A place where people really compete and have knowledge of audio. We would love to hear your story.

whitedragon551 said:
No hating, just realism and real world knowledge.
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Real world knowledge on my part also. Just wait to these subs and amps are in the market later this year.
Fyi: I never said I owned the shop. I'm the lead installer. You might wanna state all the faxs on your thread there
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Raising the VOLUME on SGS2

Hi There,
I am new here, but have noticed a lot of people around the web having problems with the output volume of the SGS2's headphone port. I am told that this is because of a European Union Volume law for Portable Electronics. Whilst this is great for stopping kids burning out their eardrums, some of us use their phones in high-noise environments and/or use external speakers with the phone.
I have found that whenever I am riding my moped with headphones in and music playing on my Galaxy S2, I have been barely able to hear the music, let alone when I plug in my X-MINI II external speaker (which is usually extremely loud for it's size) the sound output has been disappointing.
TO fix it, you simply need to go to the Dialer and key in "*#*#197328640#*#1", then click on the following options:
[5]AUDIO
[1]NB (VOICE CALL)
[2]HEADSET
[1]VOLUME
[1]SRS Speech RX Volume
Then change the values of all those properties to between 88 & 100; do this by tapping one of them, pressing the menu key and pressing the "Key Input" softkey.
This solved the problem in my case, however I don't know if it works for everybody.

K1ngsk1n said:
riding my moped with headphones in and music playing on my Galaxy S2
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This forum just get worse every day.

K1ngsk1n said:
Hi There,
I am new here, but have noticed a lot of people around the web having problems with the output volume of the SGS2's headphone port. I am told that this is because of a European Union Volume law for Portable Electronics. Whilst this is great for stopping kids burning out their eardrums, some of us use their phones in high-noise environments and/or use external speakers with the phone.
I have found that whenever I am riding my moped with headphones in and music playing on my Galaxy S2, I have been barely able to hear the music, let alone when I plug in my X-MINI II external speaker (which is usually extremely loud for it's size) the sound output has been disappointing.
TO fix it, you simply need to go to the Dialer and key in "*#*#197328640#*#1", then click on the following options:
[5]AUDIO
[1]NB (VOICE CALL)
[2]HEADSET
[1]VOLUME
[1]SRS Speech RX Volume
Then change the values of all those properties to between 88 & 100; do this by tapping one of them, pressing the menu key and pressing the "Key Input" softkey.
This solved the problem in my case, however I don't know if it works for everybody.
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It has already been posted. Now fyi, that setting will be reset if you reboot the device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069015&highlight=Volume+Boosting
Regards.

Whats wrong with riding your moped with your headphones on, the wind and engine noise is enough to not allow you to hear toffee, plus most drivers in cars are either texting there buddies in one hand, chatting with there missus with the other and scratching there arse with there other, whilst trying to circumnavigate a round about ridden hell hole in rush hour, then complain that there isn't enough road to swerve all over.
Only thing I would say "ONLY THING I WOULD SAY" shall I shout louder, but I had many of years riding an old moto guzzi which was louder then a loud thing, with my music blasting out megadeath ever day on my commute for three hours a day, has made me a little mutton Geoff to say the very least.

THUDUK said:
Whats wrong with riding your moped with your headphones on
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Everything. If you'd seen as many moped/cycle/motorbike users as I have who have had to have their earphones surgically removed from their temporal and parietal bones, you would agree.

I'm sorry, I thought this was supposed to be a forum about phones, not Health and Safety. I really don't care what your opinion is about riding with headphones is, I do it and will continue to do so regardless of your opinion on the subject, just like the countless others like me. If you are going to go on about how unsafe it is to ride with headphones in you might as well speculate that all cars should have radios removed too.
Perhaps if we can keep this on subject, instead of having people trolling with their unneeded opinions.

K1ngsk1n said:
I'm sorry, I thought this was supposed to be a forum about phones, not Health and Safety. I really don't care what your opinion is about riding with headphones is, I do it and will continue to do so regardless of your opinion on the subject, just like the countless others like me. If you are going to go on about how unsafe it is to ride with headphones in you might as well speculate that all cars should have radios removed too.
Perhaps if we can keep this on subject, instead of having people trolling with their unneeded opinions.
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Impressive condescension for a 2-post wonder. And your "fix" has been posted several times here - the "search" button is your acquaintance.
Don't try to patronise me, I'm not trolling, and my opinion is as valid as yours.

im having the same problem with volume. it seems that fix is rather complicated but i will try it..
and so what if its been posted before. your comments on moped/mc/bike is irrelevant
certainly not needing a 'thanks' button. get us a uselessness button. im on vacation in asia, and theres a gazillion of bikes, and samsungs too. thats sheer numbers.
btw dr. dre's 'beats' doesnt put out much volume either, with the price tag on those the sensitivity could/should be better.
there must be some easier way to get volume boost/gain ? my headphones sennheiser mx-060 has a pretty good output sensitivity, only its like 10000km away atm. and dr. dre's beats are a waste of 500 dollars imo. but thats opinion again..

Try the app in my sig. Boosts headphone/headset volume considerably (doesn't work with speaker tho). You can also try Voodoo Louder from the Market for a 6dB boost.

back on PC. thanks mistabungle, i will check the sig and that voodoo louder app sounds like a +6db will quadruple the volume (+3db = double volume?) just hoping it wont be taken out on potential distortion.
btw, the dr. dre's 'beats' DO have ok quality, as i tried them on an ipod, theres nice volume and all. they're a bit overpriced, but the looks (red color) speak for themselves.
you might like these two awesome fanmade videos
pink cigarette
retrovertigo

On topic - subjective of course, but I find the beats dreadful.
And I've no distortion at all with Voodo Louder.

oh i forgot i dont use the sennheiser mx-060 (neckband headphones) anymore, they 'were' great but i guess i wore them out, the min jack connector started making problems too. The mx-060 had an awesome output as for volume/sensivity. At present I use philips SHE6000 (small earbuds) and those are great, slightly louder volume and ok quality for a cheap price.
as for those volume apps, is seems they all cost money? im running cyanogenmod 7 rom, and now im thinking there MUST be some roms that have increased volume? there's some talk about 'volume+ and other apps, but theres different 'reviews' on these volume increasing apps, some work some dont..
well, 'voodoo Louder' app that mistahbungle recommends, definitely seem to ask for money at first. hehe, its just very unlikely i'd pay for a thing like that.
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off topic but.. I would like to point out that EVERY danish mobile network provider has an insane price on data when out of europe (and the out of the country prices are pretty unfair as well)
100 crowns per megabyte (thats 20USD per megabyte). Should be forbidden, and it has to end its been like that for years. so the only real choice is to jump around on different wifis from airports, hotels, cafe's, libraries etc. or consider the SGS a camera or a MP3 player that really sucks, I hope other countries doesn't have a totally unfair pricing like that.

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Aerobotix said:
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as for those volume apps, is seems they all cost money?
Volume + is free and i find that it raises the sound level by about 3 on the volume scale .
But its not something i need as volume is loud at 50% on my phone .
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Aerobotix said:
well, 'voodoo Louder' app that mistahbungle recommends, definitely seem to ask for money at first. hehe, its just very unlikely i'd pay for a thing like that.
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If £0.50p bothers you (to support a developer) , then the low volume isn't bothering you enough.
I suggest you do nothing as your happy with how it is.
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Aerobotix said:
100 crowns per megabyte (thats 20USD per megabyte). Should be forbidden, and it has to end its been like that for years. so the only real choice is to jump around on different wifis from airports, hotels, cafe's, libraries etc. or consider the SGS a camera or a MP3 player that really sucks, I hope other countries doesn't have a totally unfair pricing like that.
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I hope I don't make you cry, but we get 6 Gigabytes of data here for 20 US Dollars. Sorry.

Voodoo Louder works great. Thanks

chrisjcks said:
If £0.50p bothers you (to support a developer) , then the low volume isn't bothering you enough.
I suggest you do nothing as your happy with how it is.
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are you a developer of paid apps . trhy im happys as is, i mean at the rate the battery drains, i think louder volume would cost some more battery.
okey in the context of data price half a pounds doesnt bother me. what bothers me i dont like to buy potential crappy paid apps. just because they're paid for doesnt mean they're any better than a free app. i tried some partly free volume apps that really sucked or were kinda buggy.
karendar, i dont cry, i carve teeth and stomp my feet in here we have 6gb (or was it 10) per month for 100USD. but when you cross the border we get ripped, so its like a grounding
looks like i should be updating firmare soon anyway, then i will try another volume app from bazaar

Aerobotix said:
are you a developer of paid apps . trhy im happys as is, i mean at the rate the battery drains, i think louder volume would cost some more battery.
okey in the context of data price half a pounds doesnt bother me. what bothers me i dont like to buy potential crappy paid apps. just because they're paid for doesnt mean they're any better than a free app. i tried some partly free volume apps that really sucked or were kinda buggy.
karendar, i dont cry, i carve teeth and stomp my feet in here we have 6gb (or was it 10) per month for 100USD. but when you cross the border we get ripped, so its like a grounding
looks like i should be updating firmare soon anyway, then i will try another volume app from bazaar
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Voodoo louder is by fellow xda developer supercurio, if it's sound related - trust this guy.
Unlike free apps, voodoo sound increases volume without distortion or weird sound. (such as just increasing bass whilst actually lowering mid-highs)
I can't force you to try it, but it's 0.50p & there are countless reviews to prove its efficiency.
It offers a 6db increase, & is not comparable to rubbish sound apps such as volume+
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K1ngsk1n said:
Hi There,
I am new here, but have noticed a lot of people around the web having problems with the output volume of the SGS2's headphone port. I am told that this is because of a European Union Volume law for Portable Electronics. Whilst this is great for stopping kids burning out their eardrums, some of us use their phones in high-noise environments and/or use external speakers with the phone.
I have found that whenever I am riding my moped with headphones in and music playing on my Galaxy S2, I have been barely able to hear the music, let alone when I plug in my X-MINI II external speaker (which is usually extremely loud for it's size) the sound output has been disappointing.
TO fix it, you simply need to go to the Dialer and key in "*#*#197328640#*#1", then click on the following options:
[5]AUDIO
[1]NB (VOICE CALL)
[2]HEADSET
[1]VOLUME
[1]SRS Speech RX Volume
Then change the values of all those properties to between 88 & 100; do this by tapping one of them, pressing the menu key and pressing the "Key Input" softkey.
This solved the problem in my case, however I don't know if it works for everybody.
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what do these settings (0_lvl, 1_lvl, 2_lvl, ... ) actually mean ? Thanks~
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I want to increase the volume of ringtone, what setting should I change? Thanks~

[Q] Should I take N4 profit & get iPhone for better audio?

What do you think? With early trade-up deal at AT&T, profit from selling N4 and selling GS II, I could get an iPhone 5 for free. Only reason I would consider doing it is for better headphone audio. OK, maybe camera too. But I really don't like Apple.
Any thoughts?

What a strange question to ask in this particular forum.

I know. I'm sorry. I feel like a turncoat for even suggesting it.
But high audio quality is something many are interested in. And @supercurio has not heaped praise on new Nexus.

BaronInkjet said:
What do you think? With early trade-up deal at AT&T, profit from selling N4 and selling GS II, I could get an iPhone 5 for free. Only reason I would consider doing it is for better headphone audio. OK, maybe camera too. But I really don't like Apple.
Any thoughts?
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In my opinion, and many many others, the sound quality of apple products is not the best. You would honestly be better off getting an equaliser for your N4 (or whatever device your using, i'm not sure from your post) and a good set of earphones/headphones. :good:

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BaronInkjet said:
I know. I'm sorry. I feel like a turncoat for even suggesting it.
But high audio quality is something many are interested in. And @supercurio has not heaped praise on new Nexus.
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It's not that there's anything wrong with suggesting it, but I would think it'd be tough to get unbiased advice here.
I hadn't actually listened to any music yet, so I gave it a shot. My test set was my standard for new earbuds, trying to capture a range of frequencies that get emphasized: "Jupiter" from The Planets, "A Movie Script Ending" by Death Cab for Cutie, "Outside" by Childish Gambino, and an ESPN podcast. I listened via my Shure SE215s that I use for, well, everything. I tried both streaming w/Google Play Music and playing locally with Doubletwist, and for comparison also listened on my 6th-gen 160GB iPod and my Realtek-equipped Dell laptop.
First: I couldn't tell any difference whatsoever between streaming and playing locally.
Jupiter: Compared to the iPod and laptop, the biggest difference was a lack of "sparkly"ness in the highs. It didn't sound quite as crisp on the phone. However, this was only really evident when playing at a really loud volume; at normal volumes, it sounded fine.
Death Cab: The lack of crisp highs came through clearly here, especially in the intro, though I know this song better than probably any other song out there. Once it got to the more orchestrated sections, there was enough good mid-stuff going on that it sounded good to me.
Gambino: With such a strongly bass-focused song, I noticed a *tiny* bit of muddiness in the low end. If I wasn't trying to listen for every little detail, I'm not sure I would have. Good otherwise.
Podcast: totally normal. No comments at all.
Bottom line: the more of an audiophile you are/you consider yourself to be, the less you'll probably like this phone's sound (but then, why are you listening on a phone?). If you're a big hip-hop/rap fan and like a lot of bass in your music, and also listen with the volume cranked, it might sound a little mushy to you. For general use, though, at reasonable volumes, it sounds pretty good, and you could probably EQ away any issues you have. If you like the other features the phone has, or just want to stick with android in general, the sound should not drive you away from this phone.

BaronInkjet said:
What do you think? With early trade-up deal at AT&T, profit from selling N4 and selling GS II, I could get an iPhone 5 for free. Only reason I would consider doing it is for better headphone audio. OK, maybe camera too. But I really don't like Apple.
Any thoughts?
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if you want sound quality, then go for an international SGS3, if now dont get anything else, the Nexus is from what ive read not to bad just has some strange results on the objective tests (probably software related).
i have an SGS3 and it sounds just as good as my Cowon S9 so in that regard ive been quite happy with it but im switching to a nexus cause of other issues im having with the device (ie case cracking issue).
with the Nexus 4 try maybe using an external amp

If you're looking for Audio Quality, you're best bet is to quit looking at phones altogether. Grab a nice Turntable (I personally use a Technics 1200MK2), a good set of speaks, and a good receiver (I personally dig on Marantz).
Good luck finding and putting that together for less than 350. Not saying the phone is remotely capable of churning out hifi sound. I do say a phone is a great source for music on the go, and its just that. I'm satisfied with having a phone that produces marginal audio while I have a dedicated system at home to enjoy. Kind of like having a desktop for serious games and having a phone or tablet for the simple stuff.
If you are truly concerned with getting an idevice for music, why not take the savings after buying an n4 and get an ipod or itouch or whatever they're doing these days.

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If you're looking for Audio Quality, you're best bet is to quit looking at phones altogether. Grab a nice Turntable (I personally use a Technics 1200MK2), a good set of speaks, and a good receiver (I personally dig on Marantz).
Good luck finding and putting that together for less than 350. Not saying the phone is remotely capable of churning out hifi sound. I do say a phone is a great source for music on the go, and its just that. I'm satisfied with having a phone that produces marginal audio while I have a dedicated system at home to enjoy. Kind of like having a desktop for serious games and having a phone or tablet for the simple stuff.
If you are truly concerned with getting an idevice for music, why not take the savings after buying an n4 and get an ipod or itouch or whatever they're doing these days.
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that's not exactly a portable solution, but i agree if audio quality is primary concern get a dedicated player like a Cowon and get the best sound quality in the portable market

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Bottom line: the more of an audiophile you are/you consider yourself to be, the less you'll probably like this phone's sound (but then, why are you listening on a phone?). If you're a big hip-hop/rap fan and like a lot of bass in your music, and also listen with the volume cranked, it might sound a little mushy to you. For general use, though, at reasonable volumes, it sounds pretty good, and you could probably EQ away any issues you have. If you like the other features the phone has, or just want to stick with android in general, the sound should not drive you away from this phone.
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Thanks, chinly and all! I'm not looking for home setup, just on the fly (gym, car, etc.) Not a "owns 12 pair of different headphones" guy, but played for many years and have a pretty good ear. Have been using Neutron Player/Klipsch S4s. Have several of the player apps and NP is my fav so far. There are some spots where GS II is just a little rough though. What is the word... noise? :crying:
I appreciate everyone's feedback. I will let share mine as well when I get it in a few days.

I'm using the same headphones as you do (shure 215) because I really love good sound quality but if it had to be THAT good I would have bought another pair (less bass, more expensive) and use a mp3 player - maybe even with a portable amp.
But for me (I don't even know why I am writing this because I'm not you) that is just enough - Pretty decent headphones with my SGS = perfect for me (at least with eq) since I listen while riding my bike or travelling with a train you know. I don't put all my focus on the music so it doesn't has to be "perfect".
Yeah I just wanted to share my point of view so you can maybe think this over?
PS I like the iPhone or at least some things about it. Build Quality, speed and battery lifetime. But the OS is just too boring and .. too bull****ty.

just thought id add i used an iphone 5 today with my Shure SE535's and compared against the SGS3 ............iphone sounds so flat, bass had like no punch at all.
no doubt ill be missing the sound of the SGS3 when i change over to a nexus i might need to buy a new Cowon myself the Z2 looks nice

I have a ipod classic 6th gen 80gb for music, the only reason I bought it is because I don't want to spend a extra $50 to get double the memory which kinda sucks, so I found a good deal on it lol. I don't really like using my phone for music, since it drains the battery a lot and I like to listen to music a lot.
if you really want a good quality music device go look at some Cowon pmp's.

BaronInkjet said:
What do you think? With early trade-up deal at AT&T, profit from selling N4 and selling GS II, I could get an iPhone 5 for free. Only reason I would consider doing it is for better headphone audio. OK, maybe camera too. But I really don't like Apple.
Any thoughts?
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you will regret it if you dont really like apple. you can change eq settings for audio on the N4, as far as camera goes id consider a Lumia 920 over that

Funny, I was just thinking about 920. Check this out:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/635554/nokia-lumia-920-sound-quality
I got my N4 today. After first quarter:
GS II - 14
N4 - 0
Letting it play a while to see how it does, but ... Other than headphone audio, phone truly is spectacular.

Headphones: N4 Compatible

Hello,
Please post headphones that you know of that have remote/playback/volume controls that work with the Nexus 4.
The previous thread got filled with expensive ****, so this thread is intended for regular consumers who want something affordable and compatible with the N4.

LG QuadBeats LE410 which are the ones the Google Play store sell.

One button Beats By Dre Studio works just fine!

i think those that google play sells should be ok

I am currently using a pair of "AURIA Exceed Sports Earphones (2013 version)" which seem to work well with the Nexus 4. Also fairly cheap at around $40 (shipping to the UK was another story though...)
The main reason I went for the headphones was the volume slider which works with the Nexus 4. While probably not quite as efficient as directly controlling the devices volume, however as the N4 doesn't support more than one button on the remote the volume slider does the job. The inline remote also as a mic and single button which works to pause/resume music etc.
The other benefit from my point of view is that the earphones are the older style of in ear ones - ie they rest in the outer part of the ear, rather than having a bit that sticks right into the ear. Personally I find this more comfortable and it also allows me to retain some situational awareness when out walking/jogging. I know some people prefer more noise isolation though!

Jabra Sports are great, but they are towards the pricey side. You can get them from T-Mobile for $78. I use them everyday and they are superb. I never have to take my phone out to change songs or make a call.
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KOSS Porta Pro.
I bought and I'll test.
but I do not have any problem.

Griffin woodtones work awesome .. Also sound great
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Azarin said:
I am currently using a pair of "AURIA Exceed Sports Earphones (2013 version)" which seem to work well with the Nexus 4. Also fairly cheap at around $40 (shipping to the UK was another story though...)
The main reason I went for the headphones was the volume slider which works with the Nexus 4. While probably not quite as efficient as directly controlling the devices volume, however as the N4 doesn't support more than one button on the remote the volume slider does the job. The inline remote also as a mic and single button which works to pause/resume music etc.
The other benefit from my point of view is that the earphones are the older style of in ear ones - ie they rest in the outer part of the ear, rather than having a bit that sticks right into the ear. Personally I find this more comfortable and it also allows me to retain some situational awareness when out walking/jogging. I know some people prefer more noise isolation though!
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I've heard a pair of 'a-Jays' (not sure which one) playback controls work with the N4, when configuring their app. Anyone can confirm?

Any noise cancelling (active or passive) around ear headphones? Does the Sony's headphones work well with Nexus 4? Thanks

Brainwavz R1 is not bad

Gemichi said:
Any noise cancelling (active or passive) around ear headphones? Does the Sony's headphones work well with Nexus 4? Thanks
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The headphones that came with my Sony Clerks Arc do NOT work with N4. Mic is trying to connect continually and awaking Google now search, and sound is awful mono. I bought the lg red edition ones... Worse sound, but they work.
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Gemichi said:
Any noise cancelling (active or passive) around ear headphones? Does the Sony's headphones work well with Nexus 4? Thanks
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I'd recommend the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 unless you have very large ears. Then go with the Sennheiser HD280 Pro.

abe in space said:
I'd recommend the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 unless you have very large ears. Then go with the Sennheiser HD280 Pro.
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I'm not really sure if my ears are big or not...I had a Bose AE2 before and when I wear it, the top part of my ear is touching the inner top of the headphone.

Gemichi said:
I'm not really sure if my ears are big or not...I had a Bose AE2 before and when I wear it, the top part of my ear is touching the inner top of the headphone.
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The M50's pads are similarly sized, with a slightly different shape. If the fit of the AE2 was uncomfortable, the M50's fit probably would be too.

abe in space said:
The M50's pads are similarly sized, with a slightly different shape. If the fit of the AE2 was uncomfortable, the M50's fit probably would be too.
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Maybe all I need is to adjust the head band. The most I concern about is the noise cancelling. Active noise cancelling always do a better job, but have you tried using it on a bus? and how was it?

Never fails, "any headphones with volume support?" 30 responses and 1 has volume support :rofl:
And as far as I know there aren't any without going bluetooth.

Dear contributors, first post is pretty clear : do you know any earbuds that support volume control + remote and if possible available for a fair price ? Please stop polluting this thread by saying you just bought earbuds and "will report" or that you "don't know" if those earbuds you happen to like are compatible. To be honest most of us don't care since we can't use these informations in any way
Here's my contribution:
Volume control works with these earbuds since it is analogic. They were quite pricey when prime time a few years ago but you can get them for dirt cheap now. Apart from volume control and mic/button, they feature nice things (decent sound, tangle free invisibleshield coated cord, pouch, clever management system ...). I ordered myself a set and got them a few weeks ago. Here's a review with some pics that in my opinion says it all. I found sound quality to be very OK without of course being mindblowing (though clearly comparable to earbuds $20 more expensive i owned). The real highlights here are the clever cable management system and compatible volume control. If you need to know anything else, just ask _ I would totally recommend them for the $27 price tag !
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Deeco7 said:
I've heard a pair of 'a-Jays' (not sure which one) playback controls work with the N4, when configuring their app. Anyone can confirm?
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I have a-jays four (this is the top of the range version). Playback control works as is with google music and every other music app i tried, without requesting any extra app via central button. Sadly no support for volume control though, even with dedicated apps _ volume buttons signals are not compatible with Android. So i wont say they are fully compatible with our phone.

Can someone recommend a earpiece with solid microphone?
I had tried jay one+ but the mic not very good(too soft on the other end).

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Sadly no support for volume control though, even with dedicated apps _ volume buttons signals are not compatible with Android. So i wont say they are fully compatible with our phone.
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Is that a fact? For the years that I've had android phones I never really looked into the issue, I've seen people say there were hardware incompatibilities but if the ability to recognize headphone volume controls is actually absent from the OS that is a bit pathetic. I thought some of the HTC and samsung handsets offer this though, so do they bake it into the OS?
edit - I just checked the S4 and it does support volume control, at least with samsung buds, doesn't answer whether or not android natively supports it but it is at least capable.

Z1 Compact audio quality, post your impressions

Hello..
this is my first post and I really want to read some audio/sound quality of this device thru headphones. I read some reviews, but none discuss this very important spec. Only gsmarena, but their audio reviews seems to be suspect.
So, how do you guys like the sound quality on z1 compact? Is it any good? Got any comparsions with other phones?
Thanks

Sony EQ does not work with Google Play music
Audio quality is very good Only with Sony walkman app.I surely hope this isn't an attempt to force users to use Sony walkman app for music listening, we should have the choice, right?

You can also change the settings in the sound menu.
However after some tests.it looks like this only affects the Walkman apps. The sound output in speaker, headset and bluetooth is noticeably worse in anything else other than the Walkman app. That's not on sony!
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Why do you keep just copy and pasting random statements from websites?
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GR36 said:
Why do you keep just copy and pasting random statements from websites?
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Perhaps the keys below are the only ones that work on the keyboard?
Ctrl C
Ctrl V
Hehe!
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vboechat said:
Hello..
this is my first post and I really want to read some audio/sound quality of this device thru headphones. I read some reviews, but none discuss this very important spec. Only gsmarena, but their audio reviews seems to be suspect.
So, how do you guys like the sound quality on z1 compact? Is it any good? Got any comparsions with other phones?
Thanks
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I'm pretty much delighted with my compact - fast, actually phone sized (I HATE these stupid 5" plus "phones"), and good looking!
Downsides:
1. The glass back.... why? It's completely unnecessary, and I'm sure it scratches just looking at it....
2. (some of...) The dev forum posts appear to be populated by bumptious arrogant folks who think their s#1t doesn't stink.
3. The audio is lacking - I'm an audiophile, and am really quite disappointed. The walkman app is rubbish, and the "sound effects, equaliser etc" are truly rubbish.
To get the best from the compact:
Buy PowerAmp.
Take your music collection and run it through Foobar2000 http://www.foobar2000.org/
Apply ReplayGain tags to your tracks. Check this: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Replaygain
Search for applying replygain using foobar2000 for some good guides
In poweramp settings, audio, ReplayGain: Set Apply Gain, By track, Set to +6dB
If you are rooted, install xposed framework and add xVolume30 module (allows 45 step volume control) - this doesn't increase volume, but gives finer control)
Make sure you have a decent pair of IEM's (for advice, feel free to PM me (actually, if you want to know more about any of the above, PM me!)

nelvinchi said:
I'm pretty much delighted with my compact - fast, actually phone sized (I HATE these stupid 5" plus "phones"), and good looking!
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So am I (and so do I). Btw good advice on the "get the best from the compact" :good: If one would want that, its very helpful indeed.
vboechat said:
this is my first post and I really want to read some audio/sound quality of this device thru headphones
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As for the sound: I'm not a audiophile or whatever, and do not have much music-through-headphone-experience, but I listen music a lot, and I think it's great.
My previous phone was a Razr, which had terrible sound. In everything.
Now I have Sony phone, use the Sony music app, and have Sony headphones (the one that came with when preordered, MDR-10rc) and I just love it. But who am I

I asked sony centre about the sound as well and emailed support. The guys in the shop told me that they do it purposely to sell sent blue tooth stuff.
Support told me that I had to update my device. I told them it's on the latest. So they told me it's the apps fault. Told them to stick there half arsed device and returned it.
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nelvinchi said:
Perhaps the keys below are the only ones that work on the keyboard?
Ctrl C
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Hehe!
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I'm pretty much delighted with my compact - fast, actually phone sized (I HATE these stupid 5" plus "phones"), and good looking!
Downsides:
1. The glass back.... why? It's completely unnecessary, and I'm sure it scratches just looking at it....
2. (some of...) The dev forum posts appear to be populated by bumptious arrogant folks who think their s#1t doesn't stink.
3. The audio is lacking - I'm an audiophile, and am really quite disappointed. The walkman app is rubbish, and the "sound effects, equaliser etc" are truly rubbish.
To get the best from the compact:
Buy PowerAmp.
Take your music collection and run it through Foobar2000 http://www.foobar2000.org/
Apply ReplayGain tags to your tracks. Check this: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Replaygain
Search for applying replygain using foobar2000 for some good guides
In poweramp settings, audio, ReplayGain: Set Apply Gain, By track, Set to +6dB
If you are rooted, install xposed framework and add xVolume30 module (allows 45 step volume control) - this doesn't increase volume, but gives finer control)
Make sure you have a decent pair of IEM's (for advice, feel free to PM me (actually, if you want to know more about any of the above, PM me!)
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I actually have to disagree, I'v been using power amp on any phone I've owned pretty much. But on my Z, I'm using Walkman, the sound quality is great, a little more volume than power amp was giving. And smoother UI. Only thing I'd say I miss I being able to remove music directly from the player. But it might be different for the z1c Idk.

I've tried a number of apps but sadly the sound quality is the same through all of them, not the best
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Nos0x said:
I've tried a number of apps but sadly the sound quality is the same through all of them, not the best
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I'm on a train on way home from work.... listening to (proper) Techno by my good friend Richie Hawtin: mp3 256kbps @ 44.1kHz w/ Replaygain tags, via PowerAmp, on a pair of Klipsch x10's
Freakin Sweeeeeeet!
What IEM's/headphones are you using?
*Note - if anyone wants help or advice on headgear/IEM's/headphones, audio encoding or eq setup, let me know and I'll be happy to help.....
For headgear advice, let me know your music preferences (songs, genre etc) and how much you can spend....

How can you tell audio quality with techno! Lol
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How can you tell audio quality with techno! Lol
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Nice pic! Can't lie to you, but I've clearly nicked that..... hehe!
Depends on your definition of techno really.... hehe! When I first started collecting vinyl (1988 - have 12000 vinyl now, and no matter how much the misses nags, I'm not getting rid of ANY! Told her she can make my coffin using them, but till then.....) there were three dance music "genres", house, acid,
Nos0x said:
I've tried a number of apps but sadly the sound quality is the same through all of them, not the best
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I'm on a train on way home from work.... listening to (proper) Techno by my good friend Richie Hawtin: mp3 256kbps @ 44.1kHz w/ Replaygain tags, via PowerAmp, on a pair of Klipsch x10's
Freakin Sweeeeeeet!
What IEM's/headphones are you using?
*Note - if anyone wants help or advice on headgear/IEM's/headphones, audio encoding or eq setup, let me know and I'll be happy to help.....
For headgear advice, let me know your music preferences (songs, genre etc) and how much you can spend.... techno. It breaks my heart hearing some plinky plonky euro "hands in the air" tosh labelled as techno.
I DO have a very eclectic taste music wise, and have setups and headgear to suit....

12000 vinyl ? you a hifi man? Linn?
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Technics SL-1210 Mk2, Pioneer DJM-600 zone Pro mixer, Marantz PM-KI PEARL LITE amp bi-wired to a pair of Mission SX3's speakers (Mmmm!) and a pair of Monitor Audio BRONZE BX2's as my monitors (use them for the studio setup also....) Oh, and a pair of Sennheiser HD 25-2 @ 70 ohms.....

nelvinchi said:
Technics SL-1210 Mk2, Pioneer DJM-600 zone Pro mixer, Marantz PM-KI PEARL LITE amp bi-wired to a pair of Mission SX3's speakers (Mmmm!) and a pair of Monitor Audio BRONZE BX2's as my monitors (use them for the studio setup also....) Oh, and a pair of Sennheiser HD 25-2 @ 70 ohms.....
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Yup you seem pretty electo! I had the hd-25's great headphones, swapped them out for momentum on ears, similar sounding but very comfy.
I have ATC SIA-150, ATC SCM40 and Naim CD5x :good:

WasherUK said:
Yup you seem pretty electo! I had the hd-25's great headphones, swapped them out for momentum on ears, similar sounding but very comfy.
I have ATC SIA-150, ATC SCM40 and Naim CD5x :good:
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Nice setup chief! The HD 25's are perfect for DJ'ing and studio use - I'll admit that the Momentum's would be my pick for "listening" to tunes....
BTW, the Mission SX3's are some properly sweet speakers for a good price - if you get a chance, swing by your local Richer Sounds and ask for a demo,,,,,

I try and avoid richer sounds, keeps me sweet with the gf lol
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nelvinchi said:
I'm on a train on way home from work.... listening to (proper) Techno by my good friend Richie Hawtin: mp3 256kbps @ 44.1kHz w/ Replaygain tags, via PowerAmp, on a pair of Klipsch x10's
Freakin Sweeeeeeet!
What IEM's/headphones are you using?
*Note - if anyone wants help or advice on headgear/IEM's/headphones, audio encoding or eq setup, let me know and I'll be happy to help.....
For headgear advice, let me know your music preferences (songs, genre etc) and how much you can spend....
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I've tried my closed back Sony headphones and open backed seinnhisers (sp). The phone sounds worst of all with earphones though, get a lot of hiss.
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Nos0x said:
I've tried my closed back Sony headphones and open backed seinnhisers (sp). The phone sounds worst of all with earphones though, get a lot of hiss.
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What model are your Sony and sennheiser head/earphones?
Are you happy with them otherwise?
Just in case you are in the market for a new pair, I can very highly recommend two pairs:
Klipsch Image X10 - High Performance Noise-Isolating In ear headphones - you can get a pair on Amazon for less than £100 - worlds smallest IEM's but truly excellent sound and range - I wear them on the tube trains and overland trains, really noisy environments but I don't even need to turn up the volume!
Same goes for Soundmagic's E30's - £40 on Amazon, but you need to buy Comply TX400 memory foam tips to get the best out of them and get full noise cancelling.... I've got a collection of headphones worth over £2000, and for my daily use, I use the pairs above!

Sound quality sucks. It's way too low. Can't wait to root the phone and install the insane volume mod from Z1 forum. Hopefully it works
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