Hi to all!
Please write here your opinion why snap or octa better?
Not just bla-bla-bla, but real things and knowledge!!!
Thank you!
I've voted for Octa because I no need LTE and 4K video. So Octa is more interesting, modern, perspectiv. I hope it'll be less power consumption with same or better performance as Snap.
My reasons for Octa:
1. 4 powerful + 4 efficient cores which can work simultaneously -> better CPU performance and better battery life
2. More RAM available (2.72 GB vs 2.38 GB)
3. Better sound (Wolfson DAC vs Qualcomm DAC)
Pros of Snap which don't bother me:
1. LTE. We don't have LTE in Ukraine. IMHO, even with new Qualcomm QFE1100 chip LTE will drain more battery than GSM/UMTS. It just improves situation compare to other LTE solutions but GSM/UMTS operation is still superior in this regard.
2. 4K recording. Too large video files. I think 1080p 60fps is more important.
3. Supposedly better GPU performance. I don't play games.
Didn't know some countries or rather telecoms don't have LTE still. It'd be like going back 5 years, can't imagine tethering my tablet on 3G...
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slimslim said:
Didn't know some countries or rather telecoms don't have LTE still. It'd be like going back 5 years, can't imagine tethering my tablet on 3G...
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Our telecoms are bragging about LTE and we have covered 20% of the country. 5,6 towns have limited lte depends where you are and beside
that they are charging a lot for LTE. Mostly in Europe, Eastern countries doesnt have proper LTE but everyone are using Snap version still...
ussrxoden said:
My reasons for Octa:
1. 4 powerful + 4 efficient cores which can work simultaneously -> better CPU performance and better battery life
2. More RAM available (2.72 GB vs 2.38 GB)
3. Better sound (Wolfson DAC vs Qualcomm DAC)
Pros of Snap which don't bother me:
1. LTE. We don't have LTE in Ukraine. IMHO, even with new Qualcomm QFE1100 chip LTE will drain more battery than GSM/UMTS. It just improves situation compare to other LTE solutions but GSM/UMTS operation is still superior in this regard.
2. 4K recording. Too large video files. I think 1080p 60fps is more important.
3. Supposedly better GPU performance. I don't play games.
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Where did you find the info on the DAC?
Three Reasons for the Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5420:
1) Notably more memory bandwidth 14.9 GB/s vs 12.8 GB/s
2.10 GB/s more memory bandwidth. This is the maximum rate that data can be read from or stored into memory.
2) Considerably higher ram speed 1866 vs 800
1066 higher ram speed. It can support faster memory, which will give quicker system performance.
3) Supports hardware-assisted virtualization Yes vs No
it is easier to obtain better performance when using virtualization if it is hardware-assisted.
Three Reasons for the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800:
1) Shorter 10 mm vs 11 mm 1 mm shorter.
2) Explicitly narrower 10 mm vs 12 mm 2 mm narrower.
3) Reasonably faster CPU clock speed 27.78% faster CPU clock speed.
Edit: Forgot the source of this info
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designgears said:
Where did you find the info on the DAC?
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I know you asked him, but I read somewhere ( easy to google for it) that Samsung signed a long-term deal with Wolfson.
I also read that the DAC on the S800 is integrated so guess which one is getting the Wolfson?
Anyway I am not in a hurry , so I will be playing with the Phone in the showrooms quite a lot before I make any decision,,
As I said before, it's difficult, but not being in a hurry, is a good thing....
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Three Reasons for the Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5420:
1) Notably more memory bandwidth 14.9 GB/s vs 12.8 GB/s
2.10 GB/s more memory bandwidth. This is the maximum rate that data can be read from or stored into memory.
2) Considerably higher ram speed 1866 vs 800
1066 higher ram speed. It can support faster memory, which will give quicker system performance.
3) Supports hardware-assisted virtualization Yes vs No
it is easier to obtain better performance when using virtualization if it is hardware-assisted.
Three Reasons for the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800:
1) Shorter 10 mm vs 11 mm 1 mm shorter.
2) Explicitly narrower 10 mm vs 12 mm 2 mm narrower.
3) Reasonably faster CPU clock speed 27.78% faster CPU clock speed.
Edit: Forgot the source of this info
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Just pointing out that both versions have the same performace, as a 1,9Ghz Octa matches (or beats) a 2.3 Ghz snapdragon.
Same happened with the S4, and now that the Note 3 can use all 8 cores we will see.
And I also believe both versions are identical in size.
I would pick the octa for two simple reasons:
4G in Qatar only started this year and has weird bands that no phone supports, except for custom made 4G keys.
I'm interested in the ability to use all 8 cores at once.
I'm also interested on what people will do to improve on that aspect with kernels, It seems a fun little ride
I would pick the S800 version if I desire down the line, but I'll start with the Octa first.
PS: I have a weird fetish love for exynos for some reason, even knowing the not so open behaviour.
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2) Considerably higher ram speed 1866 vs 800
1066 higher ram speed. It can support faster memory, which will give quicker system performance.
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Where would you find the info regarding that 3 GB RAM?
Edit; Got it. According to anandtech exynos 5420 supports up to 1866 MHz.
thekoRngear said:
Where would you find the info regarding that 3 GB RAM?
According to wikipedia (yeah, know it is viewed as not-so-reliable) both the MSM8974AB and Exynos 5420 have 32-bit dual-channel 933 MHz LPDDR3e (14.9 GB/sec). Even if the note version snapdragon doesn't have that AB tag it will be 800 MHz (12.8 GB/s) which is not that far behind.
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Here is the source of that comparison:
http://versus.com/en
It could be bogus .... big chance it is ....
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I NEED LTE. Since having it, I can't see myself using anything slower.
SgtGoldy said:
I NEED LTE. Since having it, I can't see myself using anything slower.
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Ditto
ussrxoden said:
My reasons for Octa:
1. 4 powerful + 4 efficient cores which can work simultaneously -> better CPU performance and better battery life
2. More RAM available (2.72 GB vs 2.38 GB)
3. Better sound (Wolfson DAC vs Qualcomm DAC)
Pros of Snap which don't bother me:
1. LTE. We don't have LTE in Ukraine. IMHO, even with new Qualcomm QFE1100 chip LTE will drain more battery than GSM/UMTS. It just improves situation compare to other LTE solutions but GSM/UMTS operation is still superior in this regard.
2. 4K recording. Too large video files. I think 1080p 60fps is more important.
3. Supposedly better GPU performance. I don't play games.
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1. I live in chicago and I'm going to need that hella fast LTE
2. The 4k recording
betoNL said:
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I know you asked him, but I read somewhere ( easy to google for it) that Samsung signed a long-term deal with Wolfson.
I also read that the DAC on the S800 is integrated so guess which one is getting the Wolfson?
Anyway I am not in a hurry , so I will be playing with the Phone in the showrooms quite a lot before I make any decision,,
As I said before, it's difficult, but not being in a hurry, is a good thing....
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Lame. Well, I am not in a hurry either, my work offered to buy me any device I wanted. I have an HTC One, tried the SGS4, G Pro, 1020 and the 5S is just to small. The only thing left was the Note 3
No choice. Only Octa will be available. And I want Octa for true 8 core mode.
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Yeah even I would go for octane...I would love to have all 8 cores working...a true octa core
Not sure yet.
Don't care much about 4k video. 4G isn't widely available in India yet but should spread in the next couple of years. Still plans will probably be expensive for a while so I can live without it for the next 2-3 years.
Probably the biggest issue for me would be battery life. The S800 seems to do well and battery life on the G2 appears to be superb. Not sure how the Octa matches up here, we will have to wait for reviews.
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Lame. Well, I am not in a hurry either, my work offered to buy me any device I wanted. I have an HTC One, tried the SGS4, G Pro, 1020 and the 5S is just to small. The only thing left was the Note 3
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However.....
There is a chance the S800 will carry the Wolfson
Just found this info:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/678952/samsung-galaxy-note-3-24-bit-192khz/30#post_9816900
How do they disable the System on chip DAC?
tattari
i really don't know , i just read it
LG's upcoming G2 phone packs in modern features including 5.2" HD IPS screen, 13 MP camera with 8x digital zoom and the ability to play lossless 24-bit/192kHz audio files. Coming with the Snapdragon 2.26GHz quad core CPU, 32GB ROM and 1920 x 1080 full HD IPS screen, the new G2 sports a variety of modern features. Now that Wolfson's latest WM5110 mobile 24-bit/192kHz DAC chip is showing up in devices, first reported in May 23 here @ Enjoy the Music.com's Industry News page, audiophiles and high fidelity enthusiasts will soon be able to travel with a single device to hear their high resolution music and answer phone calls plus other mobile computing tasks. Wolfson's M5110 is the industry's first quad core High Definition (HD) Audio Processor System-on-a-Chip (SoC). This new highly-integrated, low power HD Audio Processor with advanced DSP feature set is designed to deliver HD Audio performance of 24-bit/192kHz for smartphones, tablet computers and portable multimedia devices. The WM5110 provides 110dB signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) and a fast 600 MIPS of processing power, while only requiring 3mW DAC to headphone power consumption, making it the most powerful and efficient HD Audio Processor on the market. Other features of LG's G2 include Audio Zooming that enables users to zero in on specific audio source by zooming in on your subject while recording video. This unique feature uses three stereo mikes, which amplify sound from the specified angle and deemphasize the surrounding noise. If you want to enjoy the music, then simply plug in your headphones and go. The unit provides easy file sync simply by plugging in a USB cable and the G2 intuitively shows you the icons for features that require earphones or USB cables when you plug them in. This allows faster access to the apps you desire. The LG G2 comes with a large 3000 mAh battery for hour after hour of musical pleasure
and that's the source link
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/news/0813/
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i wouldn't call my self an audiophile , but i really do appreciate high quality music , and have a decent pair of cans that can produce good music
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OT: For Exynos version, GTS won't be shipped out-of-box. They will ship with core-migration.
GTS will be enabled later through some kernel/patch upgrades.
LTE is so overrated. Who's going to download a 1GB file on mobile data anyway. Most of the time, it'll be small packets and you won't even feel the difference in speed between LTE and HSPA+ for those.
Plus, battery blows on LTE. Even if I owned an LTE device, I'd still run it on HSPA+ because of the battery life.
Except for the S4, the Exynos is always better than the Qualcomm. On the S4, Qualcomm was better because it could run native AOSP and Exynos 4 didn't work correctly. However, the Exynos is always the preferred version and even pay premiums for it.
Hello,
I am aware of the hardware differences between the two models. Fortunately, both are available in my country and I can take my pick. From what I gathered there is absolutely no reason to buy the N900 when the N9005 is available, or am I missing something? Would anyone buy a N900 if they could get the N9005 just as easily?
Thanks,
I had the option to pick either, obviously I picked the N9005 as you should too as you've seen the hardware differences aha.
The only difference that I am aware of is that the N9005 is 4G LTE, whereas the N9000 is not.
I don't have 4G on my current plan at the moment but will be getting it in February.
Exactly, my country doesn't support 4G so that's why. I'll be receiving my N9005 today. The 4K video recording and sd800 are worth the extra 50 bucks. Thanks!
imo really hard to choice. yes 4k recording and snapdragon performance is a huge advantage over 900 one but that sound quality think makes me think again. i dont have 4k display device, my computer monitors are all 1080p like the note3 so i have no chance to watch the 4k videos that a shoot but i will see the sound quality advantage of n900 while listening to music.
Do you still think the V20 is worth getting in 2017 in the context of S8/+ that's here & coming Essential phone, Pixel 2s, Note 8, V30 none of which are expected to have a user replaceable battery it seems (could this be the last high end model with a user replaceable battery after the Samsung Note 4) & its current <$400 price?
So what do you still like about your V20, what don't you like & is there a best model to get for updates or other factors?:good:
My initial impressions/background: I liked the V20 when it first came out for its removable battery, expandable storage, bright IPS sharp display, fingerprint reader & power button in a very sensible location, the secondary screen & IR blaster but didn't think it was worth the $800 price without front facing stereo speakers & wasn't particularly impressed by the cameras especially front facing but now it can be had for <$400 & hate my Nexus 6P battery life at this point while loving my Samsung Note 4 quick swappable battery. I also have a Moto X Pure I got a great deal on ~18 months ago with its great front facing stereo speakers & bright IPS display & expandable storage but it's battery life also is weak without a user replaceable battery.
I will take another look at the V20 at its current price, is there are difference between unlocked http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US996-Unlocked-v20-titan & T-Mobile http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H918-Titan-v20 (which I could unlock if needed) with warranty & international LG V20 H990DS Unlocked International Model-No Warranty model in terms of updates or other factors because I've read that the Unlocked US996 model has not been getting updates while I'm wondering if the T-Mobile or International gets updates..?
Despite Quad DAC, I was disappointed by the V20 speaker but have since found https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HEYIPGK impressive headphone jack speaker & https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XYBWXG1 cool compact floating bluetooth waterproof speaker that will make it easier to bypass that weakness & could use another phone I have if the front facing camera continues to disappoint. I also saw some impressive V20 video optical image stabilization footage.
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I watched a lot of reviews before getting the v20. Coming from the Note 4 edge I can say I'm happy with it. I just got sick of Samsungs bloatware.
I would say if you're not an audiophile and use your camera in auto mode then there is little going for the v20
k.dos said:
I watched a lot of reviews before getting the v20. Coming from the Note 4 edge I can say I'm happy with it. I just got sick of Samsungs bloatware.
I would say if you're not an audiophile and use your camera in auto mode then there is little going for the v20
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Interesting since I have the Note 4 & love the battery swapability, I'm going to watch more video reviews before a decision. I am an audiophile so its single downward speaker was a deal breaker at it original 2x asking price compared to my Nexus 6P & Moto X Pure front facing stereo speakers but just would likely use external speakers (headphones-bluetooth speakers) with it. I'll test out the camera manual mode features when I take another look, I like options as long as it doesn't take too long to get through them.
Do you have the unlocked or a carrier model-do you care about the updates issue?
If a removable battery is a high priority then the v20 would be worth it on that alone because I think this phone is the last of the removable battery featured in a high end phone. V30 looks to be going the way of the G6.
Really sucks I am disappointed with smart phones trend to go the non-removable, glass enclosed and stupid 30 minute water resistance.
Its an excellent phone and I think it's a better value than the G6 is.
Samsung is just bloated garbage, so much junkware I would not pick an s8. Samsung has this idea that their phones are worth more than the competition and their continued trend of increasing phone prices is something I do not support.
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Another nice feature is the second screen, set it to "always on" (still turns off in your pocket etc) and you can see the time and notifications without having to touch the phone at all.
The v20 is just a bit taller then the Note 4 but slightly thinner, it fits just a well in my hand and feels better due to its all metal back. If you like the size of the Note you'll have no problem with the v20
My biggest complaint is the glass has a slight curve at the top and bottom that make full tempered glass screen proctors nearly impossible. I have noticeable scratches in my screen because I didnt want to use a plastic screen protector!!!
Also the power button on the back to me is a bit weird and I miss the physical home buttons.
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If a removable battery is a high priority then the v20 would be worth it on that alone because I think this phone is the last of the removable battery featured in a high end phone. V30 looks to be going the way of the G6.
Really sucks I am disappointed with smart phones trend to go the non-removable, glass enclosed and stupid 30 minute water resistance.
Its an excellent phone and I think it's a better value than the G6 is.
Samsung is just bloated garbage, so much junkware I would not pick an s8. Samsung has this idea that their phones are worth more than the competition and their continued trend of increasing phone prices is something I do not support.
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I do find it ironic that Samsung moved away from the Note 4's removable battery to subsequently have enclosed battery defects overheat-explode costing them billions which could have been avoided if they just stuck with the removable batteries that had made consumers-power users happy. Also why not just have an Active/Sport model or even Samsung designed cases for those who want manufacture certified water resistance..?
I did know before I got the Nexus 6P that its enclosed battery would cause issues but not as bad or quick as it did which only reinforces my appreciation for removable batteries. I will likely still go through the hassle of replacing its enclosed battery but I've had to carry around and depend on external batteries with a sense of dread over the N6P's degrading internal battery life. I may ask the Essential phone team for example why they & Google no longer care about removable batteries or headphone jacks (is it to conform to Apple proprietary "curator" ways instead of empowering the actual end users)?
I'd be willing to pay the high prices if there weren't such compromises..
k.dos said:
Another nice feature is the second screen, set it to "always on" (still turns off in your pocket etc) and you can see the time and notifications without having to touch the phone at all.
The v20 is just a bit taller then the Note 4 but slightly thinner, it fits just a well in my hand and feels better due to its all metal back. If you like the size of the Note you'll have no problem with the v20
My biggest complaint is the glass has a slight curve at the top and bottom that make full tempered glass screen proctors nearly impossible. I have noticeable scratches in my screen because I didnt want to use a plastic screen protector!!!
Also the power button on the back to me is a bit weird and I miss the physical home buttons.
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I typically use a case (with a lip to protect the screen) like https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5M72E0 without screen protectors & have never had screen damage. Gorilla glass 4 with case lip not enough?
I like its fingerprint-power button location & hope it will cause less accidental power offs than on sides near volume controls & I haven't personally missed the physical home button. Regarding the kind of control the user has over the secondary screen I found the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yInN7OV4M3k useful.
When I take another look at the V20 this week I will run through all the options but always appreciate owner experience feedback
So no difference between the US996 Unlocked model vs carrier/T-mobile model in terms of updates (or Wi-Fi Calling calling)?
SMARTPHONEPC said:
I am an audiophile so its single downward speaker was a deal breaker at it original 2x asking price compared to my Nexus 6P & Moto X Pure front facing stereo speakers but just would likely use external speakers (headphones-bluetooth speakers) with it.
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Sorry, but an audiophile would not be interested in the quality of the speakers even if there were two of them.
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I purchased an unlocked G4 which was supposed to have been comparable with all my T-mobile carrier bands. But I later learned in a Redditt post that it in fact was missing an important one which resulted in connectivity problems. So when the prices dropped on the V20, I made sure to get the carrier model. Now I have much better reception as well as Wifi Calling and FM radio, neither of which are available through the unlocked version.
jian said:
Sorry, but an audiophile would not be interested in the quality of the speakers even if there were two of them.
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OK jian I'll let you the true audiophile define what sounds good to me in every practical circumstance.. I'll also give up bluetooth forever only to buy your brand of wired equipment to live in your good graces..
I profusely apologize that I can appreciate handheld dual front facing stereo speakers as offered in my Nexus 6P & Moto X Pure.
Sarcasm aside, I won't make excuses for LGs easily muffled V20's uninspiring single downward firing mono speaker.
BTW, is there a failing speaker issue https://www.google.com/search?q=lg+v20+speaker+issue or is it the speaker grille according to https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...eaker-sound-with-simple-hardware-mod-0176333/ & https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/enable-dual-speaker-stereo-sound-your-lg-v20-0176433/ ?
Lg v20 DS990 is below $400 on ebay. Great price. Standby is amazing, manual mode and audio superb. Battery drains 15% or more per hour with screen on, but batteries are cheap. Auto camera mode is poor, including autofocus. Great build quality, no bootloops. So if you are okay with these things, go for it! It's crazy paying 800 for Samsung, made from effing glass! And this comes with screen protector already applied. Dropped it once with Spiegel cash (must have case), no problems. Phone is fast and I love secondary screen.
Medevac1 said:
I purchased an unlocked G4 which was supposed to have been comparable with all my T-mobile carrier bands. But I later learned in a Redditt post that it in fact was missing an important one which resulted in connectivity problems. So when the prices dropped on the V20, I made sure to get the carrier model. Now I have much better reception as well as Wifi Calling and FM radio, neither of which are available through the unlocked version.
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Thanks Medevac1 but that's comparing 2 different devices, has anyone compared or experienced the unlocked US996 model vs the T-mobile H918 model on T-Mobile?
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US996-Unlocked-v20-titan
"US996 Unlocked Technical Specifications:
Technology CDMA, WCDMA, GSM, UMTS, LTE
Network CDMA, GSM, LTE Multi-Band/Multi-Mode
Frequencies CDMA 1.9 GHz CDMA PCS/800 MHz CDMA; GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; LTE Bands 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25
Data Transmission EVDO, EVDO Rev A, 1xRTT, LTE, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+, HSPA
Connectivity:
4G LTE Network* Yes
Mobile Hotspot** Share a 4G LTE data connection with 8 other compatible wireless devices***
* 4G LTE network not available everywhere
Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
** Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability."
Vs.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H918-Titan-v20
"T-Mobile H918 Technical Specifications:
Technology GSM, LTE, WCDMA
Network GSM, LTE, WCDMA
Frequencies GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, LTE Bands 2/4/12/66, Roaming 1/3/5/7/13/20, WCDMA Bands B2/B4, WCDMA Roaming B1/B5
Data Transmission GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/LTE
Connectivity:
T-Mobile 4G LTE Network* Yes
Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
VoLTE Capability Enables HD Voice****** and enhanced communications over the cellular network***
* T-Mobile’s 4G LTE Network not available everywhere
** T-Mobile Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability. Additional charges may apply.
*** Depends on network availability.
Where I usually am T-Mobile is best at the moment (speed tested all carriers but not with this device) but that could change over time or obviously when traveling where T-Mobile is far less reliably good so shouldn't I get the unlocked US996 model..?
T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling (& FM radio) can not be enabled in the unlocked US996 model?
herrzeba said:
Lg v20 DS990 is below $400 on ebay. Great price. Standby is amazing, manual mode and audio superb. Battery drains 15% or more per hour with screen on, but batteries are cheap. Auto camera mode is poor, including autofocus. Great build quality, no bootloops. So if you are okay with these things, go for it! It's crazy paying 800 for Samsung, made from effing glass! And this comes with screen protector already applied. Dropped it once with Spiegel cash (must have case), no problems. Phone is fast and I love secondary screen.
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Anyone here in the US using the LG V20 H990DS 64GB Dual Sim, GSM Unlocked International Model, No Warranty model on T-Mobile or any carrier?
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks Medevac1 but that's comparing 2 different devices, has anyone compared or experienced the unlocked US996 model vs the T-mobile H918 model on T-Mobile?
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US996-Unlocked-v20-titan
"US996 Unlocked Technical Specifications:
Technology CDMA, WCDMA, GSM, UMTS, LTE
Network CDMA, GSM, LTE Multi-Band/Multi-Mode
Frequencies CDMA 1.9 GHz CDMA PCS/800 MHz CDMA; GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; LTE Bands 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25
Data Transmission EVDO, EVDO Rev A, 1xRTT, LTE, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+, HSPA
Connectivity:
4G LTE Network* Yes
Mobile Hotspot** Share a 4G LTE data connection with 8 other compatible wireless devices***
* 4G LTE network not available everywhere
Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
** Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability."
Vs.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H918-Titan-v20
"T-Mobile H918 Technical Specifications:
Technology GSM, LTE, WCDMA
Network GSM, LTE, WCDMA
Frequencies GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, LTE Bands 2/4/12/66, Roaming 1/3/5/7/13/20, WCDMA Bands B2/B4, WCDMA Roaming B1/B5
Data Transmission GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/LTE
Connectivity:
T-Mobile 4G LTE Network* Yes
Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
VoLTE Capability Enables HD Voice****** and enhanced communications over the cellular network***
* T-Mobile’s 4G LTE Network not available everywhere
** T-Mobile Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability. Additional charges may apply.
*** Depends on network availability.
Where I usually am T-Mobile is best at the moment (speed tested all carriers but not with this device) but that could change over time or obviously when traveling where T-Mobile is far less reliably good so shouldn't I get the unlocked US996 model..?
T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling (& FM radio) can not be enabled in the unlocked US996 model?
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Why can't GM radio be enable I think what US unlocked version?
My post was more a comparison of experiences rather than phone to phone. Both the LG 4 unlocked and the V20 were US996 models which were originally designed to work for US Cellular phones. I was just pointing out that given this there are certain trade offs with using these phones on the TMO network.
Pretty sure I'm getting one just because of the replaceable battery.
Just can't decide between the unlocked US version and Verizon version.
LG just announced they were making the bootloader unlock app available for all Unlocked models of those phones.
I think the VZW version may have been updated to eliminate the unlocking capability.
ymDroid said:
Pretty sure I'm getting one just because of the replaceable battery.
Just can't decide between the unlocked US version and Verizon version.
LG just announced they were making the bootloader unlock app available for all Unlocked models of those phones.
I think the VZW version may have been updated to eliminate the unlocking capability.
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Wait really? so that means i can root my sprint lg v20 which is on zv6?
kel29738 said:
Wait really? so that means i can root my sprint lg v20 which is on zv6?
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The following phones can now have their bootloader's unlocked by LG unlocking tool.
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
• LG G6: US997.USA for the U.S. open market
• LG G6: H870 for the European market
• LG V20: US996.USA for the U.S. open market
• LG V10: H960A for the European market and Android M (Except France)
• LG G5 SE: H840 for the European market
• LG G5: RS988 for the U.S. open market
• LG G5: H850 for the European market
• LG G4: H815 for the European market
So this makes the unlocked version a plus.
Checked out the V20 again Monday night in an AT&T store but only had like 20 minutes where it was next to the G6 & not too far away from the Samsung S8+. Issues I'd like to be able to resolve before hitting a buy button even at this lower price:
1) If I bought the V20 it would be the worst built in speaker I've ever put up with (maybe this unit was defective but I shouldn't assume so). Beyond videos, music however brief, voicecalls, I'd frankly like everything to sound acceptable without external speakers so I'd have to try How To Fix/Improve LG V20 Speaker Sound Quality. That YouTube video unfortunately does not demonstrate before-after, has anyone done this "simple hardware mod" described at https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/improve-your-lg-v20s-speaker-sound-with-simple-hardware-mod-0176333 with what results?
I could comment that the G6 speaker did sound more acceptable in a brief test (but still not impressive) & when I looked at the same downward firing speaker location on the G6 it did not appear to have any or at least the same thick crowded speaker grill that could be muffling the V20 sound so perhaps it could be improved..
2) Screen is too blue as reported at https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/color-calibration-screen-to-6504k-v20-t3484489 so I'd have to try https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/arent-satisfied-v20-screen-color-temp-t3492061 - https://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-v20/739129-how-adjustlg-v20-screen-color-calibration.html , has anyone done this?
The AT&T store model does not let me get into settings so as is the V20 screen was not as good as my Moto X Pure (colors or brightness) but the V20's brightness spectrum seemed acceptable & hopefully the aforementioned color adjustment can be improved while my Nexus 6P whites are comparatively yellowish. The Samsung S8+ colors & brightness were impressive but still didn't feel the need to get it overall especially without a removable battery.
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Checked out the V20 again Monday night in an AT&T store but only had like 20 minutes where it was next to the G6 & not too far away from the Samsung S8+. Issues I'd like to be able to resolve before hitting a buy button even at this lower price:
1) If I bought the V20 it would be the worst built in speaker I've ever put up with (maybe this unit was defective but I shouldn't assume so). Beyond videos, music however brief, voicecalls, I'd frankly like everything to sound acceptable without external speakers so I'd have to try How To Fix/Improve LG V20 Speaker Sound Quality. That YouTube video unfortunately does not demonstrate before-after, has anyone done this "simple hardware mod" described at https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/improve-your-lg-v20s-speaker-sound-with-simple-hardware-mod-0176333 with what results?
I could comment that the G6 speaker did sound more acceptable in a brief test (but still not impressive) & when I looked at the same downward firing speaker location on the G6 it did not appear to have any or at least the same thick crowded speaker grill that could be muffling the V20 sound so perhaps it could be improved..
2) Screen is too blue as reported at https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/color-calibration-screen-to-6504k-v20-t3484489 so I'd have to try https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/arent-satisfied-v20-screen-color-temp-t3492061 - https://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-v20/739129-how-adjustlg-v20-screen-color-calibration.html , has anyone done this?
The AT&T store model does not let me get into settings so as is the V20 screen was not as good as my Moto X Pure (colors or brightness) but the V20's brightness spectrum seemed acceptable & hopefully the aforementioned color adjustment can be improved while my Nexus 6P whites are comparatively yellowish. The Samsung S8+ colors & brightness were impressive but still didn't feel the need to get it overall especially without a removable battery.
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ymDroid posted about https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIAAM853A4091 where you can see the potentially sound muffling speaker grill in question that owners have removed as detailed above, close ups below:
I can try to install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.lumen on the store demo model for color calibration controls. Even unrooted, I find it worth the install.