Hi all
I was wondering if anyone knew the answer to the above question.
to explain a bit better:
If i change the IMEI on my XDA it will obviously show up on the phone. What i want to know is will the network see the new of old IMEI. Ie whis is sent out by the phone.
Also:
From that i have found out the new service which blocks off stolen phones work that runs in the UK work by the IMEI code of the phone.
How do i make sure i don't change my IMEI to a number that is registered as stolen and in turn block my phone off.
Also again:
If at a later stage my phone does get blocked will changing it back to the original IMEI unblock it?
After all this i'm wondering if i should bother changing the IMEI. Although it would be nice to have my DOB there.
Oops I think I posted this in the rwong place!!
To Adminstrators:
Sorry
If it is in the wrong place could you move it?
The IMEI is stored in two places: one is displayed, the other is used to send to the network. The Manipulator changes both locations. The chance you'll change your IMEI to one of a stolen phone is small, very small. (It's six digits if you exclude the manufacturer part, so the chance is definitely bigger than getting hit by a meteorite, but still)
We included the IMEI change bit because:
a) We could
b) Privacy concerns: we'd like to live in a world where people can have multiple identities that are hard to connect, even if their opponents happen to run the country / telco.
WOW!!
Thanks for the great answer. As soon as it is possible to change my imei and unblock my phone i'll be doing it. (I have version 4.20 so it don't work yet).
Does anyone know of a web site where it list all the imei that are recognised as stolen or a number i can call in the UK to find out. The local police are useless and don't know anything.
A number to report a stolen phone would be useful as well cos my little sis got her knicked.
is there any way that i can change the imei of my xda II.bought one from ebay.
Why you need to change it? IMIE is look like a serial number that have only one in the world.I think you should contact the mobile operator to unlock it if your country prevent the phone that sold outsite your country. For our country does not lock it.
paper weight
it has been blocked by the governement. i already called their office and told me that the phone has been blacklisted and there's nothing they can do about it. well it only means that my phone is a paper weight now. unless i could change the imei. i have no choice.
I have a dumb question.
If i lost my hd2 and i have insurr on the phone, I get a new one after paying the deductible. If i ever found the lost hd2 or somebody else found it what happens ?
is it rendered useless by tmobile or the guy that found it can still use it when he pops in his sim ?
thanks,
rancidm said:
I have a dumb question.
If i lost my hd2 and i have insurr on the phone, I get a new one after paying the deductible. If i ever found the lost hd2 or somebody else found it what happens ?
is it rendered useless by tmobile or the guy that found it can still use it when he pops in his sim ?
thanks,
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thats very subtle.
In the UK, I was told by my retailer that a lost phone can be blocked from accessing the network and that this was done as soon as a phone became an insurance write-off. I don't know what constitutes 'the network' in this case.
rancidm said:
I have a dumb question.
If i lost my hd2 and i have insurr on the phone, I get a new one after paying the deductible. If i ever found the lost hd2 or somebody else found it what happens ?
is it rendered useless by tmobile or the guy that found it can still use it when he pops in his sim ?
thanks,
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In the UK, the re-found phone now belongs to the insurance company.
Every network knows the IMEI numbers that are accessing their network. They will block any IMEI's that are reported lost or stolen and add it to the black list.
In the UK our phnes would be blacklisted as soon as reported lost or stolen by the networ operator, if you havent recieved your replacement there isa tiny chance th network may un-blacklist your phone but a ver small chance, and for using it in a different country erm im not telling you,............... lol
there is a site that for ~£2 can verify a phone by IMEI if is stolen.
there are some free sites also that can verify if the IMEI is blacklisted.
i think black list is international and it will not work any ware on this planet if blacklisted.
cedesmith said:
there is a site that for ~£2 can verify a phone by IMEI if is stolen.
there are some free sites also that can verify if the IMEI is blacklisted.
i think black list is international and it will not work any ware on this planet if blacklisted.
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The IMEI number is used by the GSM network to identify valid devices and therefore can be used to stop a stolen phone from accessing the network in that country. For example, if a mobile phone is stolen, the owner can call his or her network provider and instruct them to "ban" the phone using its IMEI number. This renders the phone useless in that country, whether or not the phone's SIM is changed. However, the phone can be used abroad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity
Demon_man said:
The IMEI number is used by the GSM network to identify valid devices and therefore can be used to stop a stolen phone from accessing the network in that country. For example, if a mobile phone is stolen, the owner can call his or her network provider and instruct them to "ban" the phone using its IMEI number. This renders the phone useless in that country, whether or not the phone's SIM is changed. However, the phone can be used abroad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity
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In other words, you can not claim the insurance without make a report to the police, then, that phone is blocked by the network(useless after that) and if all goes right you get a new one.
Just a question, does the insurance pay if you lost it? Or is just if is stolen?
A mobile insurance has many "If..."
xokos said:
In other words, you can not claim the insurance without make a report to the police, then, that phone is blocked by the network(useless after that) and if all goes right you get a new one.
Just a question, does the insurance pay if you lost it? Or is just if is stolen?
A mobile insurance has many "If..."
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I guess it would depend on what you are covered for, im covered with Virgin for anything, so even if i throw it at a wall drop down the toilet im covered i will get areplacement, my friend is only covered if its stolen so depends who you cover is with and what thre T&C's are.
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i think black list is international and it will not work any ware on this planet if blacklisted.
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IMEI blacklists are only vaild in the country the phone was barred from. So it goes without saying you could take it to another countrys cellular network and use it with a different SIM.
Demon_man said:
if you havent recieved your replacement there isa tiny chance th network may un-blacklist your phone but a ver small chance
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It's impossible to unblock a blocked IMEI number, once it's been blocked it's usless in that country.
Kalavere said:
IMEI blacklists are only vaild in the country the phone was barred from. So it goes without saying you could take it to another countrys cellular network and use it with a different SIM.
It's impossible to unblock a blocked IMEI number, once it's been blocked it's usless in that country.
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not true i have had a vodafone phone that they blacklisted by somestupid reason i still had the contract and had upgraded and i got it un-blacklisted
Thanks to everyone invovled with the unlocking of telephone calls. I am a Canadian user on Bell with a Bell Tab and using it as my only device (with a BT headset of course!).
I have a Galaxy S and an application from my work restricts access based on IMEI. Because I have both devices and I swap my sim when I want to carry soemthing smaller, is it possible to mirror/duplicate the IMEI from the S to the Tab? As only one device will be on the network at any given time I don't see why this would be a problem but I don't know much about how IMEI is used on mobile networks.
I read some posts about scrubbing the IMEI but nothing about replacing it.
Thanks,
Greg
Are you sure that the access is restricted based on the imei and not the mac address ?
pakalrtb said:
Are you sure that the access is restricted based on the imei and not the mac address ?
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And its really easy to change the wifi mac to any other value you would like, especially to that of an old device that does have network access.
But if the app queries the imei then you're stuck.
Yeah, it's definately looking at the IMEI, it's part of registering for the service. So there's no way to re-program it? That's a bummer.
Part of making it work on froyo requires me to figure out how to get Samsung Social Hub as the app itself doesn't like froyo on the Galaxy S but with social hub I can read email. Such bad software but that's what I got. Okay, guess I need to tell my gatekeeper guy to change my imei for the service from the Galaxy S to the Tab.
You need a piece of hardware called an sptbox to change the imei number on your phone. It costs $250 and I think you have to buy it from China or some reseller, of which, there doesn't appear to be any in North America. Doesn't seem worth it to me.
My 6p was stolen over the weekend. The police won't let me report it as stolen without the IMEI. I bought the phone off eBay a year and a half back and the seller is no longer available. I have the original box but it is missing about 4 digits for the IMEI, the part where they should be must have been ripped off.
Is there any way I can get the rest of the digits? find my device on google no longer stocks IMEI. The serial number is there in full if that helps
Try contacting your service provider. They may be able to tell you the IMEI that has connected to that SIM.
I'll give them a whirl tomorrow. thanks