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Im dont know, every where I read, thay say that the cam is s..., and it takes 5 secs. from when I press till it takes the picture.
Is that right?
Stick with the Diamond, much better IMO. Only advantages of a HD is the bigger screen and more RAM, but I think the Diamond is much more useable.
To answer your question, that appears to be the case for me, yes.
"Only" the screen is a pretty major advantage, it's almost double the size. The Diamond isn't seriously usable for web browsing - the HD is. Ditto for video.
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Im dont know, every where I read, thay say that the cam is s..., and it takes 5 secs. from when I press till it takes the picture.
Is that right?
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That's rubbish and completely untrue. I find the camera to be quite excellent and picture quality very good in fact.
I don't blame you though for getting that impression. Before I got my own unit, I also had that false impression from reading all the complaints on this forum. But after getting my own HD, I'm really happy with it. This is despite not having flash.
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That's rubbish and completely untrue. I find the camera to be quite excellent and picture quality very good in fact.
I don't blame you though for getting that impression. Before I got my own unit, I also had that false impression from reading all the complaints on this forum. But after getting my own HD, I'm really happy with it. This is despite not having flash.
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Exactly the HTC Touch HD is a great phone. Some people reading forum like this think they get a good sampling of what people using the phone think about it. That is not true since it is mostly the maybe 1% that have troubles of some kind with their phone that write here. The rest of the people that are happy with their phone do not write about.
The only thing I can recommend for people considering buying the phone is to get the phone and try it out. You will most likely like it a lot.
Camera is not bad, but also not good. Don't buy it as a camphone.
I've got a nokia n82 and a touch hd.
If the cam is ****? Yeah, it is. Don't let people let you think different. I guess it's not worse than other htc-phones though, I haven't had one since the original touch (elf).
If it was daylight out here now (denmark, actually) I should have taken comparision shots for you, but it's not, and with the xenon flash on the n82 it is even more superior in this light.
That said, the touch hd is a fantastic device in every other aspect! I didn't buy it for the cam, and don't care about it's picture quality, since I've got my n82.
The camera is only suitable for taking pictures in well-lit area.
Forget about dark areas.
All in all I'm sufficiently pleased with it, as I did not expect anything great.
Hello
Yes the Cam is ****
very slow slow slow and it only does pictures in very light areas.
In the drak they are very dark - the missing flash is a desaster.
Do not buy the hd for taking pictures or videos
But also safe you monry on fu.. nokia modells
IMHO...
The quality of the photos that the Touch HD can take is far better than the three HTC devices I've used before. It's actually pretty good in my limited experience with it. However, the camera remains virtually unusable because of two things:
1 - the delay between tapping the screen and the photo taking the image while the camera fusses over the focussing and then thinks for a couple of seconds
2 - the lack of hardware button makes camera shake very hard to avoid
These two factors make it almost impossible to take a photo of a moving scene because of the unpredictability of the timing of the shot and the likelihood of camera shake.
Attached is a photo I've just taken in the low evening light that illustrates what should be a perfectly easy photo. I couldn't avoid camera shake even standing still and being ultra-careful. The exposure isn't bad though.
the cam is bad... only usable by normal daylight also video recording is very bad
well in normal daylight the cam is better than my n73. video is realy better...
Are there some tweaks or settings to speed up taking images? It's really slooooow...
TIP: Disable the "Auto Whiteness" in the camera.
I have spent the last 2 weeks playing with the camera and was very disappointed with low level lighting pictures at first, BUT! now I have ressolved this problem.
There is an option in the camera "Auto Whiteness", the sensor or software in the camera seems to be useless at judging lighting, so if you set this to manual and select the indoor lighting icon (looks like a light bulb) then the camera gives quite impressive low level lighting pictures.
Speed of the camera between pressing and taking a picture is about 3 seconds, not the worst shutter delay I have seen on a camera phone, but not the best. Hopefully HTC can address this with future software updates??
For me the main issue is the blurryness of virtually all pictures,
if its a picture of a person I have to ask them to be still, then I take a pic and then I have to ask them once more to be DEAD STILL.
Most people take stay still to mean don't walk off any where but with the Touch HD stay still means don't let one muscle move.
If you want a phone that takes decent picture then its not or you.
Its a multimedia phone (pics not included)
I have been playing with the HD for two days now, which meant finding all of the tweaks and then removing them until it works for me. The excellent tweak app (search for it here) recommends enabling the sport and burst modes of photo (works great) and then changing the maximum res to 3M (makes my phone crash!)
Anyway if you want to take really good SHAKE FREE pics the ONLY way is through the burst/sport options. The auto focus for the 'normal' cam is so crap that the shutter stays open forever. In sport or burst mode the camera has to ditch the refocus and just shoot - out of the 5 in sport or 30 in burst you will have two or 10 decent pictures. This was exactly the same on my old HTC P3900.
The video is still completely crap - although much improved if you shoot as for MMS.
If we're talking about very low light, even my Canon camera does not give good result. So I don't expect miracle from HD. Having said that, I have taken quite a lot of indoor shots with lights on and the result is not noticeably worst than what my Canon camera can deliver.
As for motion, I actually don't find any problem there. I have taken quite many shots with car moving towards and away from me and the sharpness is still there. No blurring at all.
I find vido recording to be really good.
The lack of hardware button is a non-issue for me. I find it very easy to just touch the screen, the try to hold it still for the process to be completed.
This is the best camera I've ever had in a phone, and I find myself using it quite a lot since getting my HD.
This is seriously the worst camera I've ever had in a phone. And the sad part is the auto focus which is way too slow and cannot be disabled. No other tweak will help really unless somebody will figure out how to set focus to infinity permanently.
Attached are photos taken with the HTC Touch HD at night in New York City last week:
YESSSSSS IT SUCKSSSSSSS!
Auto light balance is useless, shutter speed is miserably slow (not even for a still photo) , no flash , video is worthless. 5 MP not in full screen (in full screen it is 4MP) .
If you have kids and want to take a photo for them then please wait till thy sleep and start shooting , other wise you will be wasting only your time and battery .
It is even too bad in watching movies without setting hours and hours converting them!
I hope it is not a hardware issue and only software that can be updated later .
No cam-mobile , yes surf-mobile and nav-mobile.
My only complaint with this phone is the camera is pretty much crap. I find it almost impossible to take a photo without motion blur, if the light level is not perfect then its pointless even trying.
Are there any tips or tricks I am missing, or apps from the market that can replace or improve upon the stock camera app? Or are we stuck with what we have?
Try holding the phone still, and make sure what you're trying to take a picture of isn't moving? Lol thats the only tip that I have.
Anartic said:
Try holding the phone still, and make sure what you're trying to take a picture of isn't moving? Lol thats the only tip that I have.
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haha .. getting my kids to stay still while I take their picture is as as likely as me nailing water to the wall!
SnapPhotoPro is the best replacement camera app I have used - includes a stability/auto focus feature which I find eliminates most blur (havent tried taking a picture of anything moving though).
the best fix I found for indoors was setting the phone on a fixed surface when taking pics but really though, if you disable the auto focus to infinity, the camera snaps instantly instead if having to wait. its not a huge improvement but sometimes it helps.
I really love how fast this thing operates. Have you guys tried the panorama mode, omg, it's friggin awesome. It automatically takes 8 pictures and tells you where to align them. You just rotate the camera! The whole thing processes almost instantly!
Yeah the panorama is cool but the resolution on it sucks. I like the frames in the audio postcard
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I know its kind of silly (maybe even a bit sad) but I like the frames too...
I just tried the Panorama and I could say it's Fast easy and cool i just wish it can at least focus on each one to have more details
yeah, i do with it would let me pause so I can take a sharper shot. what I do is rotate really slow. That's how you want to do anyway ya know? Slooooowly.
iceshinobi said:
I just tried the Panorama and I could say it's Fast easy and cool i just wish it can at least focus on each one to have more details
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Saw this thread and thought "MUST TRY!" and after trying it a few times I totally agree... I would be happy giving it a second for each part if it made it higher quality...
Hopefully they will have an update for that to be an option
I had the exact opposite reaction
I thought that the camera was a little slow taking pictures and extremely slow getting ready for the next photo. That's one thing that Apple's done very impressively on iPhone 4. But the panorama mode is pretty quick. So maybe this could be a software fix. Obviously, the first thing I did was turned review off. But it still takes almost 2 seconds to return control after taking a snap.
I just wanted to know if you guys were getting the same issue.. My xoom is taking awfully blurry pictures, even when im standing still. Either the stabilization is horrid or my camera is messed up.
Feedback? Thanks!
I was just about to post about this as well. I'm hoping its a software issue because when taking landscape photos especially the blurryness is terrible.
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vitodintino1228 said:
I just wanted to know if you guys were getting the same issue.. My xoom is taking awfully blurry pictures, even when im standing still. Either the stabilization is horrid or my camera is messed up.
Feedback? Thanks!
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It is night now so I cannot take any daytime pics but I have not noticed anything like that. Here are a couple pics I just took outside with the flash on. Look fine to me.
Yeah I didn't have a problem earlier, took this a few hours ago, completely freehand. View attachment 527589
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d.scardino said:
I was just about to post about this as well. I'm hoping its a software issue because when taking landscape photos especially the blurryness is terrible.
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Dude, do yours look as sharp as that?
keitht said:
It is night now so I cannot take any daytime pics but I have not noticed anything like that. Here are a couple pics I just took outside with the flash on. Look fine to me.
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Any particular settings? Mine don't look nearly as sharp. Does your display look blurry before hand? or is it that clear all the way through? I've noticed they look a lot better when i preview them back in the gallery than while i'm taking them. Ugh. I feel like i've run into this problem before... oh yeah, my droid x..
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Any particular settings? Mine don't look nearly as sharp. Does your display look blurry before hand? or is it that clear all the way through? I've noticed they look a lot better when i preview them back in the gallery than while i'm taking them. Ugh. I feel like i've run into this problem before... oh yeah, my droid x..
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The display looks somewhat pixelated but the actual photo looks much better.
In order to not take away from this thread and to keep things organized I am starting a Camera comparison thread seperately
Mine too, but i'm using captivate
I just upgraded to serendipity's latest rom (6.3, 2.2.1) and all of a sudden, my photos are all very blurry and poorly exposed.
the camera worked GREAT on the stock rom.
any ideas or help is very appreciated.
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I just upgraded to serendipity's latest rom (6.3, 2.2.1) and all of a sudden, my photos are all very blurry and poorly exposed.
the camera worked GREAT on the stock rom.
any ideas or help is very appreciated.
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What does this have to do with the Xoom?
I was having the same problem. After taking the picture install QuickPic. There is a problem with the stock honeycomb picture viewer.
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vitodintino1228 said:
I just wanted to know if you guys were getting the same issue.. My xoom is taking awfully blurry pictures, even when im standing still. Either the stabilization is horrid or my camera is messed up.
Feedback? Thanks!
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From my experience, the pictures look quite bad when viewing them on the Xoom (via the gallery app), but once you offload them and look at them on the computer they look quite good. Do you have auto-focus turned on in the camera settings, and are you holding down the shutter long enough to let it focus? You may accidentally have the camera set to not focus or be in macro mode, which would lead to quite the blurry picture.
Offload some of ur pics onto a computer and see if they still seem blurry.
FWIW it seems like macro shots are the only ones that actually look half-decent on the Xoom itself.
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I was having the same problem. After taking the picture install QuickPic. There is a problem with the stock honeycomb picture viewer.
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Thanks for the suggestion. This actually shows the pictures clearly. Wonder whatsup with the stock Gallery app?
also keep in mind that a tablet is not the optimal platform for taking pics. Image stabilization, while good, cannot work miracles and the tablet form factor is not the easiest to hold steady while taking a pic....
Quality is just OK, my phone is far better for taking pictures.. I didn't expect much from a tablet anyways..
Video camera is decent aswell, however the stuttering issue I had with my first 2 wifi xooms still exists, oh well, I prob wont even use this for recording anyways...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyXAw5JtJlQ
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Quality is just OK, my phone is far better for taking pictures.. I didn't expect much from a tablet anyways..
Video camera is decent aswell, however the stuttering issue I had with my first 2 wifi xooms still exists, oh well, I prob wont even use this for recording anyways...
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Hawaii??
Looks real nice!
Hi Everyone,
My last phone was a Galaxy Nexus and the camera on it was well known to be ****. Yet I'm finding it nearly impossible to get a decent shot using the GN3's - it's by far the worst camera I've ever used and it's meant to be 13MP. I know Megapixels are largely meaningless but I get blurry shot after blurry shot.
The problem is, I suspect (I hope?) that this is partly due to me being terrible at photogeraphy and not really knowing what to do to get the best results. What I mean is, I've pretty much left all the settings on "auto" and hoped for the best, which from what I've read is actually meant to be pretty reasonable but I've yet to take a single decent pic with this thing. I've narrowed it down, I think, to two separate issues.
Here's a shot I took earlier today, in a brightly lit supermarket:
http://i.imgur.com/Blcjlo5.jpg
This is with image stabilisation ON. Now I'm not the best at taking pictures, certainly, but I can get much, much better results on my crappy GNexus. The above is a pretty typical example of the kinds of pictures I'm getting, incredibly blurry ones. Is there a way to (for example) reduce the shutter speed or something to help with this? I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Now here's a picture of my (slightly disgruntled) cat. This is probably the best picture I've managed to take yet:
http://i.imgur.com/itd9LM9.jpg
But look at the state of it! it's not clear or crisp at all, it seems to have some sort of awful filtering all over it. It kind of reminds me of what you get when you use an Emulator and turn on all of the texture enahncements.
Has anyone got any suggestions? I'm really just looking for some help picking the settings that will give me the best results in most cases. I don't take that many pictures so I don't mind if I lose out in certain specific situations, I just want to be able to pull out the phone, take a pic or two and be done with it.
And before anyone says it, I'll be the first to admit that I'm an utter, utter n00b at this.
Thanks!
Having image stabilisation on is your problem right there. It slows down the shutter speed considerably. You're supposed to only turn it on in low light conditions in the event that you don't want to use flash.
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MohJee said:
Having image stabilisation on is your problem right there. It slows down the shutter speed considerably. You're supposed to only turn it on in low light conditions in the event that you don't want to use flash.
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Holy crap, you hit the nail right on the head there. It's a bit backwards that "image stabilization" causes massively blurry pictures, I'm sure I'm not the only person that made such a silly mistake. Thank you, kind sir!