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First off thanks for all the the great roms and how to's to all the devs ... I have flashed to stock 3.2 now i can't gain root ..... any ideas???
Currently there is no way to root the stock 3.2 FOTA. Nor can you go back to the older ROMs as a new bootloader was written when you flashed.
itsmagic and CWM no longer work.
Thanks for the the quick reply... was afraid of that answer ,guess I am gonna have to wait. I sure someone will figure it out real soon ...
plemme61 said:
Thanks for the the quick reply... was afraid of that answer ,guess I am gonna have to wait. I sure someone will figure it out real soon ...
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Always a good idea to search XDA before flashing a new ROM for your device.
or like me, I was in 3.1 stock, waiting for the 3.2 update and custom ROM.
But my girlfriend find the time to update it without me
Now i've to wait for the root of 3.2 from scratch
Niarf
TiboTheGentleman said:
or like me, I was in 3.1 stock, waiting for the 3.2 update and custom ROM.
But my girlfriend find the time to update it without me
Now i've to wait for the root of 3.2 from scratch
Niarf
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I Sees how you are blame the woman.
Booohoooo.
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I'm having the same problem. Just after buying my A500, I updated it to 3.2 but I didn't know that root wasn't available in that version. Nor that I couldn't downgrade to 3.1 because of the new bootloader.
Does anyone know if it's possible to downgrade this bootloader in order to downgrade to stock 3.1 rom too? I feel that the answer is that it's not possible...
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I'm having the same problem. Just after buying my A500, I updated it to 3.2 but I didn't know that root wasn't available in that version. Nor that I couldn't downgrade to 3.1 because of the new bootloader.
Does anyone know if it's possible to downgrade this bootloader in order to downgrade to stock 3.1 rom too? I feel that the answer is that it's not possible...
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No. It's not currently possible.
I'll probably get people barking at me for suggesting this, but given that you've only recently purchased your tablet, you could always take it back and exchange it. Depending on where you got it from, they may have a satisfaction return window (usually 14-30 days for big box retail). This would allow you to return to an older version, or upgrade to a custom 3.2 ROM instead.
Normally this type of behavior is frowned upon, mainly because it is speculated to result in raised prices of consumer products in general. In truth, really it is up to the retailer. If they are willing to observe a satisfaction return policy, and you are unsatisfied with the product, you are operating within the business perimeters that they've established. It wouldn't be illegal, so its merely a question of your own morality and your willingness to take advantage.
I guess it depends on how badly you need root. For me, it is a show-stopper. My tablet sits at home now that I've lost root, mainly because it is useless for my needs without ad-hoc support.
Or you could just wait for the 3.2 root, but my gut tells me it might be a while. I don't know why, but I have a bad feeling about this particular upgrade. That's not really based on anything factual though.
Cheers,
-PW
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Or you could just wait for the 3.2 root, but my gut tells me it might be a while. I don't know why, but I have a bad feeling about this particular upgrade. That's not really based on anything factual though.
Cheers,
-PW
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That could be because most of the "real A500 DEVS" ( not just ROM chefs) have left this forum for a less hostile environment.
Now i've to wait for the root of 3.2
I was going to wait for the 3.2 root but now that you say it might take (lot of) time, I think I'll try to give it back to the store.
I need this root for many things, ie : mounting my nas shared folders.
camino62 said:
I was going to wait for the 3.2 root but now that you say it might take (lot of) time, I think I'll try to give it back to the store.
I need this root for many things, ie : mounting my nas shared folders.
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I use ES file explorer, and it opens my NAS shared folders just fine without root.
(of course I also want root for many things, that's just not one of them anymore)
can't wait untill the root for 3.2 it's coming! please crack that off!
I'm waiting for 3.2 root.
I'm also waiting for 3.2 root, because i want stock 3.2 with root. Right now i'm on Honeyvillain 1.2 with no issues so far, only SU. But that's a common problem right now for 3.2 ROMS.
What do you think about change wpa_supplicant in update.zip before flash with a version that support ad-hoc network?
Mircoron said:
What do you think about change wpa_supplicant in update.zip before flash with a version that support ad-hoc network?
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Once you are on stock 3.2 you can not root, and you can not downgrade, and you can not flash any modified or non-stock image. There is simply no way to do this until someone finds a way to root 3.2
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Once you are on stock 3.2 you can not root, and you can not downgrade, and you can not flash any modified or non-stock image. There is simply no way to do this until someone finds a way to root 3.2
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Too like i-pad
ve6rah said:
Once you are on stock 3.2 you can not root
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I guess that's not correct, at least for A501 but I think for A500, too.
I followed those steps to get a rooted HC 3.2 for my A501:
- Download HC 3.1: Acer_A500_4.017.07_EMEA_CUS7 http://cdn.acer.futuredial.com/Acer_A500_0.000.00_4.017.07_EMEA_CUS7_1311771237783_253e5e46.zip
- Download Decrypter [DEV][APP] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099673
- Decrypt downloaded file with Decrypter (put Decrypter and Acer_A500_0.000.00_4.017.03_EMEA_CUS7.zip into same folder)
- Unzip Acer_A500_0.000.00_4.017.03_EMEA_CUS7_decrypt.zip
- Copy update.zip from the above package to MicroSD card of A501
- shutdown (NOT restart!) A501
- Power up the tablet using Volume - & Power buttons (hold buttons until text shows up)
- A501 finds update.zip and Update will commence
After that you will have HC 3.1 on your tablet. Now root your tablet with iconiaroot 1.3 (use google to find the apk). Once it is rooted you are able to install ClockWorkMod via Acer Recovery Installer from Market, there's a thread somewhere around here, too.
Then look at thread:
[ROM][24.08]Acer A500 HC 3.2 4.015.01[HC 3.2][CWM & root] - xda-developers
So far I have no problems, everything's seem to work okay, WiFi, Bluetooth, 3G...
Hope this helps! However, I am not responsible if you brick your device! Do it on your own risk!
Werner
Omaticayan said:
I guess that's not correct, at least for A501 but I think for A500, too.
After that you will have HC 3.1 on your tablet. Now root your tablet with iconiaroot 1.3 (use google to find the apk). Once it is rooted you are able to install ClockWorkMod via Acer Recovery Installer from Market, there's a thread somewhere around here, too.
Werner
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oh man, this really make me happy just for a second, sound with confident, downloaded the iconia 1.3, run it but failed. i guest A500 not the same with A501 after all.
Here's the reply an Acer representative posted on Acer ANZ Facebook page:
"the A501 update has two more security patch integrated hence the slight delay on the update. The date is very likely to be tomorrow, that the first batch of users are going to receive FOTA update notification. Australia & New Zealand are amongst the first countries with the updates made available. Appreciate your understanding and hopefully the update will be with you shortly.".
This was posted around 3.30 PM of the 09/19 (UTC).
Just remember...
DON'T RUSH TO APPLY IT OR YOU'LL LOSE ROOT!
Wait for the devs to modify the OTA and take out the new bootloader and recovery...
This is like the millionth time I've read that 3.2 is unrootable... LoL Repetita iuvant
chiasottis said:
This is like the millionth time I've read that 3.2 is unrootable... LoL Repetita iuvant
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Considering how many idiots have flashed it and then come in here crying about it, it bares repeating.
So, in your opinion, is everyone that flashed the 3.2 an idiot or just those that are now crying about it?
mac4402 said:
So, in your opinion, is everyone that flashed the 3.2 an idiot or just those that are now crying about it?
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Very good question. I updated fully knowing I would loose root, however I have full confidence that the devs will work it out.
Sent from my A500 using xda premium
mac4402 said:
So, in your opinion, is everyone that flashed the 3.2 an idiot or just those that are now crying about it?
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The ones that are crying about it, obviously.
After searching on this forum and others, I updated to 3.2, at the time I could not find anything stating that you couldn't root it, but also nothing saying you could. I did however see a few posts from people doing previous upgrades saying that they managed to maintain root. At the time I realized there was a risk I wouldn't be able to root it, but it seemed likely I would. I also figured that if I couldn't root it, at least I could always flash back to 3.1 and root that.
Unfortunately I was wrong on both counts. Since that time I, and others, have made sure that anyone who asks is very aware of the risks so that others don't make the same mistake that I did.
I'm not really complaining though, I do have full confidence that 3.2 will be rooted in time, and while I enjoy having a rooted tablet, and use many applications that require it, not having root is not a deal breaker for me. and I still enjoy the tablet (though I must say the ads are drivng me nuts!)
I guess this is what I get for being an early adopter.
Looks like that was true. Downloading now on my A501...
I'm calling it "Acer Payback" for originally giving us the most easy to root device I've ever seen
Besides, anybody who roots and installs a custom recovery should know...Never take an OTA factory update, or at least be cautious about doing it.
One poster on another forum, was advised by Acer Support to do a factory reset to roll back to factory
I'm no rocket scientist, but doesn't that involve using that pinhole by the rocker?
Anybody try this yet? Results?
Not sure about what your question means... Update wouldn't install ("update not valid" error), so I did a Factory Reset: Settings -> Privacy -> Factory Reset (backup your internal SD as it'll be formatted). After that the update completed fine.
First impressions: snappier; some stuff (like keyboard) looks crispier on screen; more stable networks; new movie editor; etc.
Definitely a huge improvemente over 3.0.1.
So guys.. could anyone say what should i do to take safe OTA update while i have rooted a501 HV hc3.2 CWM? What are steps to do this not bricking our tab?
As guys said i could wait for way to root stock rom.
This is a judgement call. Basically, if you're happy being rooted, and you're running a custom rom with 3.2, I really see no need to revert back to stock, unless you have a lot of funky issues.
Personally, I wouldn't look forward to setting things up all over again, then having to wait till the devs com eup with another root, which may not be as easy as before. Not to mention I would lose ad-hoc support along with a couple of root required apps.
But if you have issues, then by all means, run the OTA.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Moscow Desire said:
if you're happy being rooted, and you're running a custom rom with 3.2, I really see no need to revert back to stock
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Reality call: not everyone wants to flash a custom rom. I've been flashing roms on WinMo, then Android for years and I've come to the conclusion that, no matter what, stock is better. The only time custom may be preferable is once the device isn't anymore updated officially.
As a side note, please notice that we A501 users were still running 3.0.1 prior to this update and, as you know, that ROM was terrible. This is why I preferred updating immediately (and having, finally, a device that works well) without waiting for root and other mods, which I can live well without.
You could download the FOTA and modify it to remove the new bootloader and recovery and get it rooted, like ezterry did with the A500 version. Maybe try contacting him on exactly what to modify...
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Reality call: not everyone wants to flash a custom rom.
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No reality call needed . If you had looked at the guys post, he/she is running Honey Villain3.2, which I believe is a custom Rom. The post was wether or not there was a need to revert back to a non-rootable factory rom, without taking a chance of things going bad.
I really couldn't tell you about 3.0. It lasted about 20 minutes after I bought my 501. To say that "3.0 was a terrible Rom", and then say "Stock is better", is a contradiction in itself.
Flashing any rom, should be a personal choice, of course there are pro's and con's which each person has to decide. And they should do their homework beforehand.
So really, there is no need to get "snippy"
But then again, there are always trolls about
Moscow Desire said:
No reality call needed . If you had looked at the guys post, he/she is running Honey Villain3.2, which I believe is a custom Rom. The post was wether or not there was a need to revert back to a non-rootable factory rom.
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Ops! Didn't see that post; I thought you had come here to instruct us to discard stock in favor of custom. Sorry.
Moscow Desire said:
So really, there is no need to get "snippy"
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I didn't get "snippy". I'm just tired to read, every single time there's some problem, "flash a custom" as the only solution. It wasn't your case, though, sorry.
No problemo.
But as you say, flashing is not a cure for everything. But for those of us who like to tweak things, it's nice to know we have that choice.
I just wish people would read about these things, before they get themselves in trouble.
Or the best is "I rooted, now what?"
Or, "I didn't see my exact model, but I flashed one that was close".
yea thats what i meant. I had rooted my device cuz 3.0.1 was awful. Again, i have to roll back to 3.0.1 since i have instaled 3.2 ( some factory default ??) Or what? And as you gays said Id like tu be sure before i start doing anything in this subject.
miszi said:
i have to roll back to 3.0.1 since i have instaled 3.2 ( some factory default ??)
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Yes, you must go back to stock to update.
I just rec'd the new A500 8Gb version that already has 3.2 installed. So this is not the normal 3.2 OTA, which maybe the same. Don't know how to confirm.
I have read so many posts that appears to be rooting instructions for 3.0 and not for 3.2. I see one Thread that had instructions on how to root a OTA 3.2 but the instructions even says will take 1.5hrs. I have rooted tablets/phones before and i know it doesn't take that long and don't want to lose data.
I don't want to install a custom rom just so i can be rooted. I just want to root this tablet and i don't want to downgrade the bootloader.
Can anyone please point me to the correct thread or simply let me know if rooting is currently out of the question for this scenerio.
im on the same page, just picked up the 3.2 from costco.. A little common sense points me and you in the direction of downgrading to the 3.0.1.. Then bumping up to the rooted 3.2.. its not a one click solution but it makes complete sense..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
im doing it as i write this let you know my success..
Yeah I have read that an option is to downgrade to 3.0, root then go to 3.2. Guess i'm waiting on a short version that will root stock 3.2 and it doesn't make sense to me to go back only to go up versions of rom for this alternative route.
lol its data, not like your trading in your new car for a 87 nova.. Downgrade is for exploit access only as soon as root --> update recovery ---> flash rom you will be right back to 3.2..
:-/
anyways method 2 works.. did it in 15 minutes cause i got distracted..
good luck waiting for ur 1 click
cool, so i guess this is the best solution for now....i'll do the same.
IMPORTANT : Make sure you download the acer recovery installer while still on 3.2 as you WILL have problems accessing android market once you install the UNSTABLE 3.01...
Its pretty hard to hard brick but please , don't take that as a challenge...
The vanishing keyboard ...
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IMPORTANT : Make sure you download the acer recovery installer while still on 3.2 as you WILL have problems accessing android market once you install the UNSTABLE 3.01...
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Agree; first hand experience ...
ultramag69 said:
IMPORTANT : Make sure you download the acer recovery installer while still on 3.2 as you WILL have problems accessing android market once you install the UNSTABLE 3.01...
Its pretty hard to hard brick but please , don't take that as a challenge...
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lol wish I had known that when I rooted mine, I was freaking out scouring the interwebs for an apk of it when I downgraded cuz I couldn't use the damn keyboard
sent from my Acer Iconia A500 beast of a tablet via XDA app
I found out the hard way too, got the OTA update of 3.2 installed, then got the acer recovery installer downloaded. Was a colossal waste of time...
Thought I'd let others know, easier than having to stuff around yourself and hoping you can recover...
Thx for the heads up guys, i did install the acer recovery. Now i know why you need it since that 3.0 downgrade is very unstable. I did manage to root, install CWM and flashed a 3.2 rom.
I used this... straight root no downgrade required.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
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Hi all,
I'm getting my A500 in the next few days, and I was wondering what the best process for rooting is.
I understand there is either the method of reverting back to 3.0.1, or rooting from 3.2 with adb and some serials?(haven't looked into the last method much).
Which is the safer way? Is one easier than the other?
I believe the tab will arrive with 3.1 according to the spec sheet, if that makes any difference.
mswirski said:
Hi all,
I'm getting my A500 in the next few days, and I was wondering what the best process for rooting is.
I understand there is either the method of reverting back to 3.0.1, or rooting from 3.2 with adb and some serials?(haven't looked into the last method much).
Which is the safer way? Is one easier than the other?
I believe the tab will arrive with 3.1 according to the spec sheet, if that makes any difference.
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If it comes with 3.1, you're golden. Just use "Iconia Root".
Oh, i thought that only worked on 3.0
If, by chance, the spec sheets are wrong, and it comes with 3.2.x , which is easiest?
mswirski said:
Oh, i thought that only worked on 3.0
If, by chance, the spec sheets are wrong, and it comes with 3.2.x , which is easiest?
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You have to flash it which is the only way known currently.
You have to revert to 3.01 then use iconia root. You MUST download Acer Recovery installer 1st from android market as the 3.01 rom is REALLY buggy and you can do just about nothing but root your tab... After rooting and running the acer recovery installer then you can upgrade to any rom you please but remember, if you flash an Acer stock rom you have just wasted your time as you will no longer have root access(best case) or brick you tab (worst case)...
Best to look in developement and get one of the stock roms from there or a cfw....
I like Harkon, but thats because I have an A501.... If you have an A500 you have more choice....
Look in the developement section for downgrading 3.2 to 3.01.... All instructions and apps, bar the acer recovery installer....
Cheers...
So I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there is no solution to root a TP that's already applied the 2.0 update?
I've tried the root methods already obtainable on here and they don't work. I'm guessing (more hoping) that someone is working on finding a solution.
Makes me sad. A co-worker updated it for me because "it said it needed to update it so I did it for you"... *sigh*
OTA2 removed the exploit unless you were already rooted and used Voodoo Rootkeeper to maintain root during the update. I haven't heard the outcome with regards to 2.5. I don't want to risk root so won't be updating unless it's safe.
2.5 is out ? which your version of tablet ?
16gb us. Was delivered last week.
Yeah, I didn't have it rooted before so yeah.
Either people like us find a way to downgrade or wait until a new exploit is found. The former seems easier but my knowledge of these things isn't very high...
Yeah, I'm not sure how to either. I'm good at following directions but when a "friend" upgrades your device for you...
As for downgrading, I don't think that'll be an option until someone finds a Lenovo rom flash utility.
byersbw said:
16gb us. Was delivered last week.
Yeah, I didn't have it rooted before so yeah.
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2. 5 was not available to US last week. How did you get it? Supposedly it's still going through certification. 0086_US is 2.0. What version are you?
Oh hell.... I've been reading too many posts on the Lenovo forums. My apologies, I am running OTA 2.0 NOT 2.5. I will correct my first post and title.
I'm running ThinkPadTablet_A310_02_0039_0086_US.
Okay. Thanks. No worries, but was scratching my head, looking puzzled.
Haha! I can understand. I have that look a lot sadly. I appreciate you telling me as I had no clue as to what exactly I was saying.
Now, if anyone knows someone on the inside at Lenovo that could get the flash utility...
LOL If only.
And now we wait. Did NOT expect CM9 to come out so fast and be working so didn't care much for root otherwise. Oh well, that was my fault and I knew I'd lose root for the time being. Now I wait patiently, since the primary work of the developers now is making CM9 to work properly so w/e.
Why isn't there a way to downgrade the rom to 075? The tab has a recovery boot. If it could be downgraded, it could then be rooted , then updated.
No way to downgrade, unless you know something the rest of us are unaware of. There's a bunch of folks that either can't root at all, or took OTA2 before getting root/without preserving root. We've been told that there's nothing to be done for the time being.
I don't know how to do it, but I know that's how other tabs got around the problem. I only say it in case someone does.
AFAIK, the problem is the recovery's signature check.. if it recognizes that the update.zip to flash is older than the build actually installed, it won't install the new ROM.
Thanks. Noob enough that I couldn't explain it, just knew it doesn't work.
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AFAIK, the problem is the recovery's signature check.. if it recognizes that the update.zip to flash is older than the build actually installed, it won't install the new ROM.
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I wonder what it takes to defeat the check? There must be an update script that performs that check. Editing elements of the update script has been the key to other "can't be done" situations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22918839[WIP][4.0.3]ICS CM9 ThinkPad Tablet PORT
I'm going to keep putting forth suggestions instead of claiming something can't be done. Afterall, the point of this entire forum is to work togther to overcome obstacles.
While I don't know a lot about these things, if it could be done, it would have been. This forum is overflowing with posts from owners of all kinds devices asking how to downgrade their respective device so they can take root. It's not an uncommon request, and one that I have researched for another device, only to find the same answer. Hey if you find out how to do it, you'll make a fortune.
Two other tablets, the Flyer and the View downgrade to gingerbread, then unlock bootloader, then root, then update to honeycomb, then custom roms are applied. They got the idea from another tab, the Iconia, who got it from the Transformer . . .
I'm just trying to push good and bad ideas to someone with the skills. It's about not taking 'no' as an answer.
Here's the thread for Flyer/View:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21028879[Procedure]No HTC unlock downgrade HC-GB for official OTA