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Same devices like HTC HD2 with Snapdragon, when you overclock the CPU, the same happens with GPU...
But in our case ( defy ) is not the same...
By default ( where i know ) PowerVR SGX530 it's runing AT 200Mhz, but can run higher, than 200mhz ( 400mhz i think ).
We can overclock the GPU to get more 3D performance, witouth sacrificate the battery?
Why do you think the GPU can run at twice the default clock speed?
If there is an article you have read that states or suggests this - please provide a link.
by default it's runing at 110Mhz ( i think )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR
the default clock is 200Mhz, and i thing can go furher.
I have seen traces of 125mhz looking in the system files, but thats more of a guess
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tomeu0000 said:
by default it's runing at 110Mhz ( i think )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR
the default clock is 200Mhz, and i thing can go furher.
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according to ti, it is [email protected] (all 3630 is)
well it's either CORE_CLK/6 (0x1) or "full speed" (0x0) (CONTROL_FEATURE_OMAP_STATUS)
racca said:
according to ti, it is [email protected] (all 3630 is)
well it's either CORE_CLK/6 (0x1) or "full speed" (0x0) (CONTROL_FEATURE_OMAP_STATUS)
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Ok, but is there any way to overclock the GPU? at 250 or 300mhz maybe?
This program on the market says it can overclock GPU:
Overclocking (GPU / CPU) https://market.android.com/details?id=com.cpufree
but doesn't seem worth trying since it has a very very bad rating and comments.
Last app update was 5 months ago.
Can someone find an app worth trying?
mrolp said:
This program on the market says it can overclock GPU:
Overclocking (GPU / CPU) https://market.android.com/details?id=com.cpufree
but doesn't seem worth trying since it has a very very bad rating and comments.
Last app update was 5 months ago.
Can someone find an app worth trying?
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I think i have used it before but it doesn't work...
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Would be cool if the gpu ups with CPU, but like mentioned above...I think the omap3630 is locked at 200mhz
If anyone knows how to do a gpu OC...please share
dunno about you guys, but as far as i know, the gpu is integrated in the cpu chip (its like an extra core so to say), so it should be overclocked with the cpu. and whenever i ocd the cpu, i experienced graphics improvements, so i think, thats the answer, they oc together.
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dunno about you guys, but as far as i know, the gpu is integrated in the cpu chip (its like an extra core so to say), so it should be overclocked with the cpu. and whenever i ocd the cpu, i experienced graphics improvements, so i think, thats the answer, they oc together.
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No they do not OC together i am afraid. Most of Android UI is being drawn by CPU and not by GPU as many thinks :/
Well, I've experienced minor changes when OCing my Defy from 1ghz to 1.3ghz, when using Neocore... it went from 39fps to 39.3 fps, but such small changes are expected, even without OC...
So guys,waiting for my GS2 to arrive tomorrow and it's time for the hundred bucks question:
Will we be able to overclock the Mali GPU in the GS2 like the SGX540 in the original GS was?Imagine the performance of this thing with an overclocked GPU!
And before you ask,no,its stock power isn't enough for me.As long as I can get more out of it that is.I will probably have it running at 1.5GHz everyday,so I'm not the kind of guy who will "proceed with caution"!
Thanks!All feedback welcome!
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I've got my CPU underclocked to 500 MHz and honestly can't tell the difference between 1.2 GHz and 500 MHz...
I even gave my phone to a colleague who has one too, and he was using it without a thought. He indeed asked me why mine was faster than his... xD
So not a clue if you can OC the GPU, but I've yet to see a single reason to OC this phone.
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I've got my CPU underclocked to 500 MHz and honestly can't tell the difference between 1.2 GHz and 500 MHz...
I even gave my phone to a colleague who has one too, and he was using it without a thought. He indeed asked me why mine was faster than his... xD
So not a clue if you can OC the GPU, but I've yet to see a single reason to OC this phone.
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Well,power corrupts my friend!And with a phone so powerful I can't help it!
Seriously though,it is nice if something like this is possible.See the original GS.The overclock of its GPU puts it against most dual core phones easily and it even bests some of them.Not likely something everyone will need in their everyday lives but you never know what the future holds!Maybe we will rival the Kal-El(Not likely I think but let's hope)!
Happy to see you here by the way pulser.It's really an honour!
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So no one interested?
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pulser_g2 said:
I've got my CPU underclocked to 500 MHz and honestly can't tell the difference between 1.2 GHz and 500 MHz...
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I have almost the same experience here, except I could see a difference between 500 and 800 Mhz, but anything above 800Mhz almost didn't change anything. Which proves that the CPU is not the bottleneck, so we should try to overclock the GPU
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I have almost the same experience here, except I could see a difference between 500 and 800 Mhz, but anything above 800Mhz almost didn't change anything. Which proves that the CPU is not the bottleneck, so we should try to overclock the GPU
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ALMOST in my mind.Almost.My CPU for one will be a 1.5GHz one!Or even more!
Well,since pulser gave attention to the thread I am a little confident it might even be followed by some devs at some time(or that someone works on it at least),so I want to ask these two regarding the lack of texture compression formats issue:
1)Does anyone know whether Chainfire intends to make any plugins for Chainfire3D himself?While the available plugins do the job for some games,they don't for some others.So,I think Chainfire is our guy on this!
2)Is the issue hardware or software related?If it is software,what are the odds that Samsung or ARM provide a driver with support for all texture compression formats?I don't think that's likely to happen but,oh well,we can always hope for it!
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2)Is the issue hardware or software related?If it is software,what are the odds that Samsung or ARM provide a driver with support for all texture compression formats?I don't think that's likely to happen but,oh well,we can always hope for it!
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It's definitely hardware related. Mali doesn't support Nvidia's, PowerVR's or Adreno's proprietary texture compression formats.
I think the gpu get overclocked with the cpu or at least that's how it was on the s1.
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It's definitely hardware related. Mali doesn't support Nvidia's, PowerVR's or Adreno's proprietary texture compression formats.
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Oh well,my hopes are gone then...
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I think the gpu get overclocked with the cpu or at least that's how it was on the s1.
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I think it was seperately overclocked with a special kernel on the GS...I could be wrong but I doubt this as it had made me feel very jealous that it wasn't possible with my Desire.
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Oh well,my hopes are gone then...
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no, CF3D is a work around this VERY hardware "issue"
there can be other hardware things that aren't compatible however.
wait isn't the Mail 400 GPU a quad-core? I've been hearing that it is but Samsung have disabled 2 cores to a dual core GPU.
dk206 said:
I've been hearing that it is but Samsung have disabled 2 cores to a dual core GPU.
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Where did you hear that?
dk206 said:
wait isn't the Mail 400 GPU a quad-core? I've been hearing that it is but Samsung have disabled 2 cores to a dual core GPU.
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I think with dual-core they are referring to the CPU only.The GPU must have remained quad-core.Else how would it pit against the octa-core GeForce of the Tegra?
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omg i got 5000 (4951) score in quadrant overclock 1.6 ghz 1400 mv
With tegrak kernel and tegrak OC utility you can OC GPU, normally it idles at 160MHz and under load clocks to 267 MHz, max OC is 400MHz but phone gets really hot.
mine is stock. when the i play f&f 5 the battery would reach 10% in 2 hours!! so my guess is that oc the GPU would cause a huge drain for the battery
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With tegrak kernel and tegrak OC utility you can OC GPU, normally it idles at 160MHz and under load clocks to 267 MHz, max OC is 400MHz but phone gets really hot.
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does the kernel offer good alround support?
comnam90 said:
does the kernel offer good alround support?
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It's stable and provides great performance. Although I'm using Ninphetamine right now. Can't use Tegrak oc with nin though. Only setcpu. Nin is oc to1.6 ghz. Tegrak is oc to 1.45GHZ.
EDIT: Just switched back to Tegrak kernel. Manual oc to 2.0 GHZ..Using Tegrak Oc. Stable.
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So in CM7 there is an option to overclock the Desire Z.
Now my question is if I can do this without having to worry about damaging my phone?
For example, the desire Z has a 800MHZ processor, so will it damage my phone to overclock it to 1000MHZ? Or maybe 1200 MHZ?
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So in CM7 there is an option to overclock the Desire Z.
Now my question is if I can do this without having to worry about damaging my phone?
For example, the desire Z has a 800MHZ processor, so will it damage my phone to overclock it to 1000MHZ? Or maybe 1200 MHZ?
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well it depends if your kernel allows overclocking to that speeds. if it dosent its very risky but if it does support it then its not that risky. for me i have e kernel that goes to 1.7 ghz so i safely clocked it to 1.5 ghz
Sorry, I'm really a noob, but what kernel do I have with CM7?
And where can I get other kernels?
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Sorry, I'm really a noob, but what kernel do I have with CM7?
And where can I get other kernels?
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sorry but i dont sure CM7, im using virtuous unity rom so i wouldnt know. but im sure your using the stock kernel that comes with cm7. just ask someone who has cm7. also there are a wide variety of kernels that you can use. just search them up on google or the xda developer forums
The CM 7 Kernal will allow you to overclock up to 1.5ghz (which for the DZ/G2 seems to be the consensus of a 'safe' overclock)
One thing to remember is that not all processors are created equal. Meaning that although we all have the same processor in our phone, some processors are able to handle overclocking better than others. It also depends on what you use your phone for and how much you need the overclock for what you are doing. I ran my device at 1.2 ghz for a while and now run it at 1ghz as it feels plenty fast to me. When playing some graphic intensive games, a higher overclock may help performance as well.
If you overclock and your phone starts to act up, then dial it down a bit. 1.5ghz is fast as hell but will alter voltage and affect battery life as well. Just play around with and see where you like your CPU speed to be at. But you shouldn't have to worry about damaging the processor by overclocking. If its more than it can handle, you will know quickly and can tone it down.
So just for example if I'm going to use Virtious(I quit because it's lagging on the Desire Z) and install this kernel and overclock my desire z up to 1,500 mhz, virtious should run way smoother, right?
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well it depends if your kernel allows overclocking to that speeds. if it dosent its very risky but if it does support it then its not that risky. for me i have e kernel that goes to 1.7 ghz so i safely clocked it to 1.5 ghz
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if your kernel doesn't support overclocking, you can't overclock no matter what... there is nothing "unsafe" about overclocking without an overclocking kernel because it cannot be done.
OP: cyanogen has its own overclocking kernel (with capability up to 1516mhz) built-in. as far as safety, it depends on your device, but the most common worst-case scenario is random restarting issues or waking issues.
on CM7, with a launcher other than the bundled ADW launcher which is choppy and slow no matter how high you're clocked, you should be able to have a smooth experience at stock speeds. I am clocked at between 1017 and 1209mhz at any given point as I have been since January and I haven't ever experienced wake or random reboot issues. YMMV but I think the general consensus for the Vision is that a mild overclock is very safe.
HELP!
I overclocked my DZ, but didn't really notice any difference, since CM7 is pretty smooth without overclocking, but know suddenly my device begins to lag very very bad. I put the CPU limit back to 245MHZ to 806MHZ but it keeps lagging:-(
whitis said:
HELP!
I overclocked my DZ, but didn't really notice any difference, since CM7 is pretty smooth without overclocking, but know suddenly my device begins to lag very very bad. I put the CPU limit back to 245MHZ to 806MHZ but it keeps lagging:-(
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which governor are you using? which launcher? have you rebooted?
If the SGX540 in P1000 can be overclocked to 370MHz, the performance of it can be highly improved like in Overcome Kernel.
(Can be showed in Quadrant Standard Edition. When it is in 370 MHz, the fps in the graphic animation of DNA can be promoted to 60fps. And got no lagging in anything. The speed(smoothness is nearly reached S2 which is official 2.3.6)
But however, it doesn't seem that any ICS supporting kernel can set the clock of GPU.
I am sorry that my English is not good enough to represent my idea, but I hope you can get what I am talking about.
And the most reason I want it to be real is that the potential of P1000 is quite big and in fact it is quite good!
PS Antutu SetCPU app can set GPU clock in Overcome Kernel.
Dang, I never knew that our GPU can be overclocked ^^
since this tab is getting old, maybe its time to overclock the gpu also?
Personally I'm agree with this
Probs a little off topic, (also to bump this up a bit)
But the Gnex which uses the same GPU can be overclocked to 512Mhz (Stock is 300 something I think), improvement seems noticeable in apps and in nenamark, you go from 27-28ish FPS to 31-32.
It would really help the tab, it seems to show age now (which makes me lust over a 7.7......)
What I knew is the potential of SGX540 in GNexus and GT are different.
GT one is 200MHz and GNexus one is 374MHz.
In Overcome Kernel w/ GT, the clock of SGX540 can be set to 370~38X Mhz w/ no crush but when it is 400MHz , the machine is seemed to be lagged.
The benchmark in Overcome 4.1 plus Overcome Kernel 4.0 can be promoted over the GT 7.7 (of course the mark doesn't represent the real using experience but let's just look at the 3D mark)
http: / / i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww300/ngtinching/SC20120401-173417.jpg
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What I knew is the potential of SGX540 in GNexus and GT are different.
GT one is 200MHz and GNexus one is 374MHz.
In Overcome Kernel w/ GT, the clock of SGX540 can be set to 370~38X Mhz w/ no crush but when it is 400MHz , the machine is seemed to be lagged.
The benchmark in Overcome 4.1 plus Overcome Kernel 4.0 can be promoted over the GT 7.7 (of course the mark doesn't represent the real using experience but let's just look at the 3D mark)
http: / / i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww300/ngtinching/SC20120401-173417.jpg
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Haha, yea I know they have different potentials Just that I thought I'd let you guys know how much better overclocking the GPU would be.
I think its worth it, there is little impact on battery life, but the improvements in apps and usage are noticeable.
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Haha, yea I know they have different potentials Just that I thought I'd let you guys know how much better overclocking the GPU would be.
I think its worth it, there is little impact on battery life, but the improvements in apps and usage are noticeable.
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I think the battery usage for extra cost of GPU is not as high as CPU.
It is being a great difference if we compared the overclocking for either CPU and GPU.
The consumption of GPU is low and it won't make the device hot as CPU overclocking.
And the temperature can keep around 35 to 36 degree Celsius under a room temperature 20 Degree Celsius.
The result screenshot I have posted is undergoing CPU overclocked (1.4GHz) plus GPU overclocked(370MHz) w/ overcome kernel and rom.
Success!!!
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If the SGX540 in P1000 can be overclocked to 370MHz, the performance of it can be highly improved like in Overcome Kernel.
(Can be showed in Quadrant Standard Edition. When it is in 370 MHz, the fps in the graphic animation of DNA can be promoted to 60fps. And got no lagging in anything. The speed(smoothness is nearly reached S2 which is official 2.3.6)
But however, it doesn't seem that any ICS supporting kernel can set the clock of GPU.
I am sorry that my English is not good enough to represent my idea, but I hope you can get what I am talking about.
And the most reason I want it to be real is that the potential of P1000 is quite big and in fact it is quite good!
PS Antutu SetCPU app can set GPU clock in Overcome Kernel.
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Hello, i have been trying to implement LiveOC into humberos's kernel and it is a success
LiveOC
This allows us to modify the bus speed which increase both the cpu and gpu clock at the same time using an app called NStools
i have only been using this for a day now and it seems to be working very well
please report back any bugs thank you,
BTW i will post the settings i have used in NStools and this kernel is for the latest MTD build
Link: http://www.4shared.com/file/216rF_WJ/boot.html?
My settings:
Governor: smartassV2
min CPU freq: 200MHz (240MHz after applying OC Value)
Max CPU freq: 1000MHz (1200MHz after applying OC Value)
OC target low: 200MHz
OC target high: 1000MHz
OC Value: 120%
hello20 said:
Hello, i have been trying to implement LiveOC into humberos's kernel and it is a success
LiveOC
This allows us to modify the bus speed which increase both the cpu and gpu clock at the same time using an app called NStools
i have only been using this for a day now and it seems to be working very well
please report back any bugs thank you,
BTW i will post the settings i have used in NStools and this kernel is for the latest MTD build
Link: http://www.4shared.com/file/216rF_WJ/boot.html?
My settings:
Governor: smartassV2
min CPU freq: 200MHz (240MHz after applying OC Value)
Max CPU freq: 1000MHz (1200MHz after applying OC Value)
OC target low: 200MHz
OC target high: 1000MHz
OC Value: 120%
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I'll give that a try when I get home (or maybe a few days later). So which ICS rom did you try this on?
EDIT: In terms of quadrant (which I know can be a bit volatile... but a nice way/quick way to see differences), ICS gets a lower mem score :< 3d is slightly lower, 2d is about double (I suspect thats forcing 2d rendering). This is comparing the gtab score in quadrant, I haven't used GB on my tab for a longgg time...)
how can i implement the boot.img file into the system???
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how can i implement the boot.img file into the system???
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This kernel is one i did 2 months ago and since then it has been updated. the kernel is in my most recent ROM
henryedwardrose said:
This kernel is one i did 2 months ago and since then it has been updated. the kernel is in my most recent ROM
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thanks for the information
as a newbie, i just thought another aokp by stimpz0r is identical
there is a strange point which is the fc of the camera while the shutter sound is closed, but it works while enabling the shutter sound
It is a great rom and thank you for your great work
Hi everybody im new user from Xperia Sp and i just play this games: turbo racing, dead tour, shiny, sailboat, epic citadel, this games sometimes are laggy and slow i dont know what? but tired of see a possible solution i found this!
the games no are optimized for processor at 1.7GHz dual core, so this is my solution for the "little lag"
i download this app called "no-frills cpu control" this app is free on Google Play
then i underclock the cpu to 1.5Ghz, because the most smartphone with Adreno 320 use a processor at 1.5Ghz, then put the "gobernor perfomance" and use "epic citadel" before in the SP result are 54.6, then later this changes the result is: 59.6, is a big change and so much perfomance for our adreno 320, and finally try all games again and the "little lag" dissapear!
this is my contribution for this "littles troubles"
Downgrading Processor speed will not affect other process?? Just a doubt only.. And i agree about Performance Governor...
Need some more advice about downgrading CPU speed.. I am a big gamer.. So doing this can i lost my other performance speed..?
Changing governor to performance destroys the battery life because the processor will just run at the maximum frequency 100% of the time
I always use Interactive. Seems better to me. Doesn't hog CPUs if not necessary.
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i just use ram manager pro.
no need overclocking or underclocking. it gives better ram optimisation for all ur background app also.
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i just use ram manager pro.
no need overclocking or underclocking. it gives better ram optimisation for all ur background app also.
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Its an excellent app..