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SmithMicro replaces CIQ?
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KaptainRandom said:
SmithMicro replaces CIQ?
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In simple words, no.
I'll link you to a thread with discussion about the SmithMicro Application, enjoy!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444332

Smith micro is used to control gapps and their updates not spy on u
Edit: I believe it controls other firmware as well unlike ciq if removed at all it causes firmware errors

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Smith micro is used to control gapps and their updates not spy on u
Edit: I believe it controls other firmware as well unlike ciq if removed at all it causes firmware errors
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I pulled that apk apart right after the ota to determine what it was and if it was safe to remove for my own senseless rom. I believe you are correct in the features of what it is there for. I did notice some xmls, and smali that referred to logging, and writing "user logs" to sd. At first Ithought it was a ciq replacement, so I pulled it when I cooked that first rom. I did not experience any ill effects. Although tbh I only ran the rom for about a day, missed Tommy's extended quick settings. There was also a welcomed lack of any ciq, in lib or bin, very good sign.
Anyways, I'm still in the debug process with my rom, but I will report back after I have more uptime w/o Smith.
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I know removing it affects certain apps and doesn't affect others you may or may not bump into an issue depending on what you're running I found out about it when I was stripping a rom and saw the service running and it piqued my curiosity this was on synergy when I discovered ciq and began the battle with removing it and HTCloggers that was a fun experience I soft bricked my phone about 100x trying to get rid of that crap, this was before treve had released any info on it so I was going at it blindly
Edit: I forgot to add the service SmithMicroDM is a download manager for firmware updates I believe it controls OTAs prls and profile updates as well as a few other apps
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I know removing it affects certain apps and doesn't affect others you may or may not bump into an issue depending on what you're running I found out about it when I was stripping a rom and saw the service running and it piqued my curiosity this was on synergy when I discovered ciq and began the battle with removing it and HTCloggers that was a fun experience I soft bricked my phone about 100x trying to get rid of that crap, this was before treve had released any info on it so I was going at it blindly
Edit: I forgot to add the service SmithMicroDM is a download manager for firmware updates I believe it controls OTAs prls and profile updates as well as a few other apps
We are legion, for we are many.
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If it controls OTAs I'm definitely leaving it out. Lol
It could be that I removed any apps it was joined to. I was down to 115MB zipped last time I cooked. I will say this, 4.67 makes for one hellaciously fast stripped down rom. Couple edits to init.rc in the boot.img, and it feels like an aosp rom.
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You will know when it causes an error it will say something like process com.smithmirco.xxx force closed the xxx being replaced with a specific process such as DM or service and then the app will crash I had issues with things locking up and requiring a battery pull HTCLoggers.apk was the worst as soon as I tried to freeze or delete it in tibu the damn thing would FC every 1/10th of a second making it impossible to restore with out flashing a backup or reflashing the rom over itself to replace the logger I finally found it embedded in several system files like frameworks-res.apk and systemui.apk which required removal from the code itself I never could get it removed without some sort of error before TrevE released his removal info, I was about ready to pull my hair out after about 60 hrs of deleting code and having to restore backup after backup when I couldn't boot or it would boot and immediately go ape**** force closing or locking up I ended up giving up and switching to a rom without ciq the first few I tried had serious wakelock issues from improper removal then the classic came out and it was ciq and wakelock free. I was able to tell how invasive ciq and htcloggers was when I found it I dumped a few logs and found IQ hits popping up attached to almost everything data or input related it was in SMS, keyboard, call history, dialer etc pretty scary especially since I had no idea what exactly it was logging or what it was doing with those logs, TrevE was lightyears ahead of me in tracking down that info, however I would personally classify ciq and loggers as malware/spyware glad sprint listened and got rid of it unlike big red who just flat out lied and said they didn't use it, which they didn't they used the same idea different name and figured no one would notice *rolls eyes*
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HTC Sneaks Spying App into Android 2.3.4 Phones

http://hothardware.com/News/HTC-Sneaks-Spying-App-into-Android-234-Phones/
Hooray
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flipz also removes the CIQ from his rom (and has for a while)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046622
here is the CIQ www
http://www.carrieriq.com/overview/IQInsightExperienceManager/index.htm
Big brother is always watching. Even if it is a half brother from Taiwan.
CDKJudoka said:
Big brother is always watching. Even if it is a half brother from Taiwan.
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Probably MIUI has the same thing too inlcuded, who knows!
AA27 said:
Probably MIUI has the same thing too inlcuded, who knows!
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It may just be a special app, but I doubt it. I think the MIUI was written for the KIRFers of all the apple knockoffs.
AA27 said:
Probably MIUI has the same thing too inlcuded, who knows!
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I wouldn't doubt if it had some sort of tracker included, but I have enough crap made in China, including most of my phone, so I'm not even trying it.
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The simply thought of spyware and how info is collected is spooky enough to be suspicious of everything.
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Another reason to not run Sense.
Carrieriq is asked for by sprint to be included in all Android phones, however, all of its features are turned off, so the only impact it has on you, the user is ~20kb of memory space less.
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Probably wrong but the dropbox folder is for users that go to the market on their computers and download apps from there. You can have your phone download an app straight from your comp for those that don't know.
But aren't all there privacy issues understandable??? All the noobs that never mod their phones want a more pleasant experience....well this is what they have to give to get a better user experience...
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Time to use a SSL VPN. or openVPN time.
Its easily disabled even if you don't use a ROM that strips it out (like Fresh Evo 4.2).
Here is how. Use titanium backup to freeze the following programs:
"HTC IQAgent 2.3.3"
"IQRD 2.3.3"
Freezing or uninstalling those 2 programs completely disables Carrior IQ. You can verify this yourself by looking at your logcat. You'll see some errors show up saying:
Unable to start service Intent {act=com.htc.android.iqagent.action.ui19 (has extras) }: not found.
This is caused by the system trying to start IQ, but failing. Uninstalling these programs should be ok, but I choose to freeze them just in case there are issues that arise from their removal.
Art2Fly said:
Carrieriq is asked for by sprint to be included in all Android phones, however, all of its features are turned off, so the only impact it has on you, the user is ~20kb of memory space less.
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It has a huge impact on the phone and is one of the main reasons why sense roms are slower than AOSP. There have been more than a few times I've found it using up about 30% of my CPU and causing everything else to run like crap.
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I laugh at the "excusing" in this thread.
If Apple was doing this people would be flaming them and attack Apple/iphone as a whole.
Funny how that article says it's just now being found when we've known about it for over a year lol
What you guys don't seem to get is that they have been doing this for longer then you think! There are a few apps things running that do this in 2.1.
MultiDev said:
Its easily disabled even if you don't use a ROM that strips it out (like Fresh Evo 4.2).
Here is how. Use titanium backup to freeze the following programs:
"HTC IQAgent 2.3.3"
"IQRD 2.3.3"
Freezing or uninstalling those 2 programs completely disables Carrior IQ. You can verify this yourself by looking at your logcat. You'll see some errors show up saying:
Unable to start service Intent {act=com.htc.android.iqagent.action.ui19 (has extras) }: not found.
This is caused by the system trying to start IQ, but failing. Uninstalling these programs should be ok, but I choose to freeze them just in case there are issues that arise from their removal.
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Thanks for this. I backed it up in case there were problems (which I don't expect) and then uninstalled it. I'll post here if I get any errors.
tnerb123 said:
What you guys don't seem to get is that they have been doing this for longer then you think! There are a few apps things running that do this in 2.1.
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And that makes it okay?
BTW, Is there any easy way to keep the system from trying to start CIQ after having removed it?
Think one thing: Regardless of OS companies want to know your steps by any means necessary. It is a shame that instead of asking people companies have to secretly steal personal information.
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Ummm does this worry anyone else?

I've been up late tonight, and just so happened to stumble across this article over at AndroidPolice. Figured it might interest some people here since it includes our phone.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...e-numbers-gps-sms-emails-addresses-much-more/
Here's the thing, though. They recommend uninstalling the offending apk immediately, which I tried.....Unfortunately that gives me repeated force closes over and over and over while the system tries to run it, to the point where I had to restore to a backup. So what do we do about this?
UPDATE: You can remove HTCloggers.apk...all you have to do is restart afterwards.
Evo4gLI said:
I've been up late tonight, and just so happened to stumble across this article over at AndroidPolice. Figured it might interest some people here since it includes our phone.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...e-numbers-gps-sms-emails-addresses-much-more/
Here's the thing, though. They recommend uninstalling the offending apk immediately, which I tried.....Unfortunately that gives me repeated force closes over and over and over while the system tries to run it, to the point where I had to restore to a backup. So what do we do about this?
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Yes and no.
Yes because so many users run Sense.
No because I run AOSP.
Frankly, I wonder how many other serious flaws there are.
I can name several apps that want their hands on permissions they have no business in [Facebook for one]
Its like 1984 for sure. There's an article in the new section here at xda that talks about some of the other vulnerabilities as well.
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Thanks for sharing. Another reason why we root our phones
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Many devs remove these programs and such to remove ciq. I can't find the thread right now, but it reads just about everything. It's so deeply imbedded into the framework.
It reads every button you press on your keyboard.
Every text you send and receive.
Every app you use and download.
The pages you browse on using the internet browser.
It even goes as far to read any spot on your screen that you touch.
This is spyware to the extreme. Sprint and HTC will say its not "spyware" and say its used only for marketing to determine how phones are being used to further develop for the current trends in smartphones. It's very possible they could steal personal info with this. Is it currently happening? Uhh...probably not, but there will still be a lot of paranoia about it.
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Sounds like a really good reason to stay with AOSP to me...
very True Haha
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Some of us haven't forgotten the XCP rootkit that was on some Sony BMG titles in 2005... hope HTC doesnt suffer a similar demise like Sony eventually has of late.
This has been removed from MikG.
This is exactly why I'm AOSP. (that and sub-100MB ROM files)
I read the article too- (I have an Androidpolice/Android Central) feed in my Pulse reader....
I already knew CIQ and such were slimy embedded spyware...but the Treve app- spotted stuff I hadnt deleted already... Sprint sent me a "letter" about bandwidth usage and We-KNOW-what-Your-Doing" ----
I'm not amused by HTC/Sprint's collusion... leaving our bottoms out there in the cold for anyone to do whatever with.....
I bet even money my phones been cloned... sometimes I can't use it for calls .. recently -and I'd not had a single missed call or problem in a year.
I'm not a happy camper.. worried about my credit card #'s and really really am annoyed by HTC sliming us this way...
to the tune- that it'll be an icey cold day in hell before I'd consider buying another HTC phone for anyone in my family- (my family has 3 Evo 4g)...
We are not amused.....
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Sounds like a really good reason to stay with AOSP to me...
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AMEN
it appears to me that this file has already been removed from MikFroyo. At least, I can't find it...
BTW, you can just remove it using TIbackup, but you'll have to restart to get rid of the repeated force closes. Simple fix, and I've done the same for CarrierIQ as well.
It was removed from sprint lovers rom as well... I couldnt find it at least
I removed HtcLoggers.apk from mine and after rebooting (force close loop) it seems to be working fine. However, is there an old log file still on the phone that can be read by some Spyware app that needs to be removed or does all this data need to come from the logger app itself? If there still is a log, I'm sure it has enough info to still steal my ESN and other stuff.
Wow! Glad I run custom ROMS

BUSTED! Secret app on millions of phones logs key taps

An Android app developer has published what he says is conclusive proof that millions of smartphones are secretly monitoring the key presses, geographic locations, and received messages of its users.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/30/smartphone_spying_app/
You can download the app to see if you have CIQ from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559&postcount=110
Im running Miui and came out ok. Need root to run the app / clean it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122569&highlight=ciq
That's pretty f**ked up. This logs keys as they are pressed, even in dialer. It doesn't appear to be installed on all android builds, seems to be carrier dependant.
I ran TrevE_Logging_TestApp_v7 to check for CIQ on my SGHT959 stock froyo.uvka6 rooted (Tmobile USA) and it came back clean, no CIQ found.
It would be good to post a list of which carriers/phone manufacturers are utilizing this rootkit so they can be avoided.
Anyway I think the only ones affected would be users of stock roms like me, CM7/MIUI and other custom roms should be fine.
Vibrant
just ran it on my Samsung Vibrant running Trigger 3.2 and it came up clean...
Phrack said:
It would be good to post a list of which carriers/phone manufacturers are utilizing this rootkit so they can be avoided.
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Agree!
I found it on my T-Mobile SGS2.... :/ I killed it with Titanium backup and rebooted. So far so good. I backed it up just in case it does mess up the phone by removing it.
Cool thanks.
sw20 said:
Agree!
I found it on my T-Mobile SGS2.... :/ I killed it with Titanium backup and rebooted. So far so good. I backed it up just in case it does mess up the phone by removing it.
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From my research the only way to tell if your phone has icq is to run log cat on your phone. Also just uninstalling the visible program didn't stop the program. I have found that asop and Muiu roms do not have ciq installed and only custom roms or kernels (in sgs2 case) which specifically removes listed as it removed.
I talked to a customer rep @ T-Mobile and she had no idea what I was talking about when I asked about ciq.
Can't wait for the class action law suit against ciq and see if this company can survive especially after eckhart's new video showing the program logging everything.
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Does anyone know how i get sqlite3?
Hey man! this is ****ed up. How do we remove this?
It depends on which rom you are using. If you are using CM7/MIUI they don't have CIQ because they are based on open source android builds. CIQ is added by carriers and some phone manufacturers so if you are running stock rom or hacked rom based on a stock rom there is a good chance you have CIQ.
You need to download TrevE's Logging Test App to check for CIQ:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559&postcount=110
There's different versions, try them until you find one that works for your phone. This will tell you if CIQ is found. To remove it you need to pay 99 cents for pro version of app and your phone needs to be rooted.
**EDIT
Here's some more info on Carrier IQ from the author of Logging Test App. It details what Carrier IQ does and logs.
http://androidsecuritytest.com/features/logs-and-services/loggers/carrieriq/
IMHO CIQ would probably be useful software if
A) Subcribers voluntarily participated
B) The software can easily be removed
As it stands this is classified as a rootkit because it is carefully hidden with no way for an average person to remove or disable it.
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On the plus side there seems to be a plethora of apps available in Android Market for checking if Carrier IQ exists on your phone.
https://market.android.com/search?q=carrier+iq&so=1&c=apps
I have a feeling there will be eventually a simplified method for removing CIQ. Just be patient.
vibrant doesn't have it...
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im glad mine doesn't have it. i put important stuff like mine and my moms bank accounts on my phone. cm7 is a safe choice

Carrier IQ

All right the company Carrier IQ is suddenly popping up in news stories everywhere. I assume I am safe from this garbage if I am using Cyanogenmod but how do I make sure my Wife's shift is clean of this if she's using Stock rooted 2.2? She will not let me change roms or even upgrade her to 2.3 so I would like to know what I need to delete to make sure Carrier IQ is not installed on her Shift or at least not sending any info back to it's mother ship.
If you haven't heard Carrier IQ is installed on millions of phones of different manufacturer's and is supported by many carriers including HTC and Sprint. It collects data and sends it back to Sprint or who knows who. Apparently it can log everything and it ignores any permissions or security you have set up or something like that. It is installed "invisibly" and you do not have the option to opt in or out. I assume Titanium or some other program can see the pieces I would need to delete but I don't know what they are.
Here's where I read about it and it does list an app that may be able to take care of it but I would rather know how to do it manually:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/01/carrier-iq-what-it-is-what-it-isnt-and-what-you-need-to/#comments
Thanks
Evo_Shift said:
All right the company Carrier IQ is suddenly popping up in news stories everywhere. I assume I am safe from this garbage if I am using Cyanogenmod but how do I make sure my Wife's shift is clean of this if she's using Stock rooted 2.2? She will not let me change roms or even upgrade her to 2.3 so I would like to know what I need to delete to make sure Carrier IQ is not installed on her Shift or at least not sending any info back to it's mother ship.
If you haven't heard Carrier IQ is installed on millions of phones of different manufacturer's and is supported by many carriers including HTC and Sprint. It collects data and sends it back to Sprint or who knows who. Apparently it can log everything and it ignores any permissions or security you have set up or something like that. It is installed "invisibly" and you do not have the option to opt in or out. I assume Titanium or some other program can see the pieces I would need to delete but I don't know what they are.
Here's where I read about it and it does list an app that may be able to take care of it but I would rather know how to do it manually:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/01/carrier-iq-what-it-is-what-it-isnt-and-what-you-need-to/#comments
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Run supreme sense
VICODAN said:
Run supreme sense
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I know! I told my wife it is better...she still says no
You can use Treve's app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.treve.loggingkey
Evo_Shift said:
I know! I told my wife it is better...she still says no
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Show her that video and tell her you want a divorce if she doesn't agree.
lol jk about the divorce part but seriously I just watched that video and im so glad im not on stock sense.
Flash MikShifted G v1.76 or Supreme Sense, then hand her back the phone. If she doesn't like them better than stock there is something wrong
i think people over think things too much about these little threats
+1 OP, I'm in exactly the same boat!
Unfortunately it seems at this point, no way to remove CIQ without root
guyandhisdog said:
+1 OP, I'm in exactly the same boat!
Unfortunately it seems at this point, no way to remove CIQ without root
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I think he already mentioned that yes she does have root on stock if you read the OP. So yes titanium backup should be able to remove it no problem. Use the app carrier IQ detector to find out how much of it needs to be removed.
CIQ is built into the kernel too. He needs to swap kernels as well as remove the apps.
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Ron Overdrive said:
CIQ is built into the kernel too. He needs to swap kernels as well as remove the apps.
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I looked at the kernel. All there is in the kernel is bug fixes to allow CIQ to run properly. If you remove the system apps there is nothing for the bug fixes in the kernel to use.
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has anyone used the advanced version of treve's app on a shift successfully?
or removed the the ciq stuff manually with success? if so is there anything that needs to stay on the device so it doesn't brick.
i'm using a stock rooted rom and kind of want to stick with it.

What to do if CIQ is active...

OK, just tested my Legendary 2.1 set up with Voodoo CIQ detector from the market and it said CIQ was active with a score of 370. So I reflashed K0nane's CIQ remover and all was gold again. It then said there are CIQ components but appears to be inactive with a score of 170 as expected since there are neutered files andf folders required still in the system. Here is K0nane's thread if you don't have the file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340083
It is possible a theme or lockscreen may have restored CIQ components in your system so check after you flash stuff.
Keep checking - it will stay inactive for a while, but I see the score jump once in a while and I have no mods or themes installed on Legendary 2.1, so it's more likely that rebooting your phone was what did the trick (temporarily) rather than flashing noCIQ again during said reboot
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You could always just not worry about it. It does help them gain metrics on the network they so badly need to work on.
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You could always just not worry about it. It does help them gain metrics on the network they so badly need to work on.
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OMG HELL NO. F*( CIQ
I see 170 on ACS 5.5 with Shake & Bake Mix Up v.5.9 12/4/11 theme & Samurai 2.0.8
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You could always just not worry about it. It does help them gain metrics on the network they so badly need to work on.
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Have you read the articles or seen the video of what it is recording? Keep that crap off my phone! The only thing they need to know is which towers I am hitting to improve service there. That they get without CIQ Bullsh&t!
I have installed legendary rom AND flashed konane's ei22-nociq-signed
voodoo carier iq also says 370 and active (a lot)
but a reboot and it says 170 and dormant
the thinking is that these are false positives.
Well I cleared Dalvik and cache, flashed the noCIQ file and keep checking and still inactive. Went to the Market and inactive still (thought that might have triggered it). But can't get it to show active again. So I have to agree that something is causing a false positive. Maybe this will be fixed in an update to Voodoo detector. In the meantime it doesn't hurt to reflash the file.
I'm running SleeperRom and mine says elements are found but are inactive with a score of 70. It's been consistent every time I run it.
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I'm running SleeperRom and mine says elements are found but are inactive with a score of 70. It's been consistent every time I run it.
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Hmm...wonder what extra work was done to get it down to 70.
kennyglass123 said:
Have you read the articles or seen the video of what it is recording? Keep that crap off my phone! The only thing they need to know is which towers I am hitting to improve service there. That they get without CIQ Bullsh&t!
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typical knee jerk reaction. me thinks you should review the video by treve. while it did notate a text had been recieved, he makes it seem as though it keylogged him tyoing the text or the body of the recieved text. ciq did not. it notated that a text had been recieved. the logging program he was using on his computer picked up the acual text of the message. no carrieriq. check the code on the screen all around where his text pops up.
ive linked you to the exact instance in the video.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=T17XQI_AYNo#t=12m25s
this is what ciq accually gathers.
Browser page render event: Internal page ID, no data related to page contents or URL Page renders
Location event: GPS and non-GPS location data Location changes, telephony-related events
HTTP event: Request type, content length, local port, status code, URL, no page contents HTTP request sent or response received
Network event: Internal identifier Network state changes
Telephony/radio events: Misc. radio and telephony data Call dropped, service issues, radio event, etc.
Hardware event: Battery level, voltage, temperature, etc. Hardware state change
Keystroke event: Key pressed in phone dialer only
Miscellaneous GUI events: Network type, battery state GUI state changes
Call event: CallerID, state, phone number Call initiated, received, or failed
Application event: Application name New app, app stopped, app gained/lost focus
SMS event: Message length, phone number, status, no message body SMS received or sent
i personally am fine with all of this. no page data, no personal data, no problem. i think they just need an opt out system.
bg4 said:
I have installed legendary rom AND flashed konane's ei22-nociq-signed
voodoo carier iq also says 370 and active (a lot)
but a reboot and it says 170 and dormant
the thinking is that these are false positives.
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I don't think it's false, because there are still 3 CIQ files remaining on the phone. These files are so engrained into the system that when I deleted them, the phone would not boot past the Samsung screen. So these 3 files are still being used somehow, and they are accessed early in the bootup process. If I have a free moment to purposely cause a bootloop, I'll capture a logcat that shows the errors generated when the system is unable to load the CIQ files...
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When you boot up look at /Dev/ttyCIQ0 if it's present, your scores are likely because that pops up at boot and disappears. It's within the kernel.
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austin420 said:
i personally am fine with all of this. no page data, no personal data, no problem. i think they just need an opt out system.
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I do and dont. I agree that it isn't being used for anything malicious, and sprint only has the parts enabled that they need. However, it is a battery draining service, and the parts sprint doesn't need can be turned on by them. So its a do i trust them type thing. I don't.
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If you have the noCIQ mod installed or are running a ROM with it removed, it is gone. Period. The Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector app is not yet compatible with the noCIQ series of mods.
Only libiq_client.so must remain in the boot process - and in fact, it does absolutely nothing. It only matters because it's statically linked. libiq_client.so is 100% controlled by the framework-side pieces of code - which are removed with noCIQ.
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If you have the noCIQ mod installed or are running a ROM with it removed, it is gone. Period. The Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector app is not yet compatible with the noCIQ series of mods.
Only libiq_client.so must remain in the boot process - and in fact, it does absolutely nothing. It only matters because it's statically linked. libiq_client.so is 100% controlled by the framework-side pieces of code - which are removed with noCIQ.
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Thank you K, and thanks for your work. Any idea why the app would fluctuate saying inactive at boot and active hours later?
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zanderman112 said:
I do and dont. I agree that it isn't being used for anything malicious, and sprint only has the parts enabled that they need. However, it is a battery draining service, and the parts sprint doesn't need can be turned on by them. So its a do i trust them type thing. I don't.
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Any medical device can easily be turned into a weapon. I don't trust it for that sort of reason.
The Root said:
Any medical device can easily be turned into a weapon. I don't trust it for that sort of reason.
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I guess that's the tl;dr of mine lol
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Any medical device can easily be turned into a weapon. I don't trust it for that sort of reason.
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My thoughts exactly. Not only that, but if Verizon has the "most reliable" or "best" network, and they don't use CIQ, then why do the other networks need it?
Or I could be wrong, and maybe Verizon has their own spyware instead of subing it out to CIQ.
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kennyglass123 said:
Have you read the articles or seen the video of what it is recording? Keep that crap off my phone! The only thing they need to know is which towers I am hitting to improve service there. That they get without CIQ Bullsh&t!
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Have you read the articles for WHAT they are collecting? Probably not close enough, because no one knows exactly what data they are collecting, just the abilities they have to collect. I seem to think, this has been highly sensationalized. Just because it had the ability to do certain things, doesn't mean that's how it is being implemented by Sprint.
Everyone is so eager to label things as data miners, and spyware they forget that they cannot actually see the metrics.
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Have you read the articles for WHAT they are collecting? Probably not close enough, because no one knows exactly what data they are collecting, just the abilities they have to collect. I seem to think, this has been highly sensationalized. Just because it had the ability to do certain things, doesn't mean that's how it is being implemented by Sprint.
Everyone is so eager to label things as data miners, and spyware they forget that they cannot actually see the metrics.
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The ONLY Metrics Sprint needs is what tower I am hitting and when as well as how much data is used through it. That they already get from tower data. They have no business checking out what URLs I visit or any of the other crap that can be collected. I already get enough spam from data miners latched onto sites I visit at home. Don't need it on my phone too.
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