Question 3D printing? - 3D Printers

So just out of curiosity I've have been looking at couple 3D printers... They're outrageously expensive... Will they ever have affordable 3D printers for hoe use?
And people that own them... What can you make with them?
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I would rather just buy a real hoe instead of printing one
I'm sure in time the tech will advance enough to allow everyday folks to have one, but like all new technologies it will take a good while.
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3D printers are cool technology but not really designed for private use or mass production
most of them work by laying small strips of plastic and forming them together. These strips normally are all the same width (say you have a machine that prints a 1mm strip and you want a something to be printed at a width of 1.5 mm you going to get 1 or 2mm so these aren't necessarily that accurate)
Some high end machines solidify a jelly by crossing two lasers.
These printers are manly used as a engineering tool to print of a visual model of something you have designed on a 3D rendering program (pro E, solid edge...) It would only print off a solid prototype to help the design of the final product.
So unless some one fundamentally change the design I don't see a 3D printer being available to the public. The materials to make one normal sized print can cost $10-30. Plus it can take hours.
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The fast forward 10 years is pretty cool. Nowadays we can get 3D printers for 300$ doing 0.2mm strips, and the material to make one print is below 1$. There hasn't been any major change to the technology, just continuous improvement.

phhusson said:
The fast forward 10 years is pretty cool. Nowadays we can get 3D printers for 300$ doing 0.2mm strips, and the material to make one print is below 1$. There hasn't been any major change to the technology, just continuous improvement.
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Changes be coming. Closed loop control for extrusion, laser preheating, printer mechanical component health monitoring..

I agree with 3D printers being expensive but they are not easy to handle therefore the ones who can actually use them should buy them. It is also the upcoming technology therefore the chances of upgrading is there.

>They're outrageously expensive...
I guess that depends on one's definition of expensive. I believe you can buy and mod a very decent printer for around 250-270$, which is around the price, if not less, most people spend almost yearly for a new phone, and in comparison, a 3d printer is actually useful.
>And people that own them... What can you make with them?
Almost anything really. Print new things for your printer, print things to fix things around the house, print prototypes, print things for your car, print things to make some things easier, print a lot of holders for things, print niche things that you can't buy, print things for the garden, print adapters, print cases, print toys for kids, etc. If you can model, you can go all out. In the end they absolutely pay off, you learn to do more things yourself, be more self-sufficient, save money, and have fun!

wayase8080 said:
>They're outrageously expensive...
I guess that depends on one's definition of expensive. I believe you can buy and mod a very decent printer for around 250-270$, which is around the price, if not less, most people spend almost yearly for a new phone, and in comparison, a 3d printer is actually useful.
>And people that own them... What can you make with them?
Almost anything really. Print new things for your printer, print things to fix things around the house, print prototypes, print things for your car, print things to make some things easier, print a lot of holders for things, print niche things that you can't buy, print things for the garden, print adapters, print cases, print toys for kids, etc. If you can model, you can go all out. In the end they absolutely pay off, you learn to do more things yourself, be more self-sufficient, save money, and have fun!
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I repair things where are no spare parts available. I build things which you can't buy

I just like one benefit of 3d printer,
You can more realize things like it is more beneficial for the students.

boloteh said:
I figured this would be a great place to ask about 3D printing Star Wars Clone Helmets. I have been looking into purchasing a printer to expand my helmet collection as well as other props and wondered what advice anyone could give. My budget is around $1,000 and I would like to print the helmets in one print. I know nothing about 3D printing but am eager to learn. I would prefer something that will work well out of the box but I also don't mind doing modifications. Thanks!
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Printing such helmets in one print won't work due to the details and complexity. You have to print several parts and put them together.

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A500 being used as a scale

This has nothing to do with anything really, just a neat thing I saw today that I thought I'd share.
Today I went to a sub shop(Jersey Mikes) in my town, which I don't normally go to cause its on the other side of town, and as I was standing there ordering I noticed the meat slicer dude was weighing the meat on a USB scale of some sort which was plugged into an A500 covered in plastic wrap. Other than the momentary "oh cool, I got one of those" I didn't think too much about it until I sat down to eat. I mean, considering the price of the tablet, coupled with the price of the scale attachment, it would be cheaper to buy just a digital food service scale I would think. So I'm wondering why. Maybe they somehow use it for inventory control or something, I don't know. But anyway, I thought it was cool to see one of our tablets being used for more than just watching cats on Youtube or whatever.
rofl... that's extravagantly terrific.
Of course, now we'll need pictures.
You'll be suprised what companies have apps for android devies for interface.
Seen the scales as well, they conenct via wifi to update product weights.
They have DJ interfaces (get a good screen protector for yoru fingers don't drag).
Househould security control, theater control, and light control bundles with the APK's for 2.3, 3.1+, and 4.0
Canon has there app so yo ucan scan from pritners, and print right to printers from phones and tabs. (believe Kodak does as well).
Medical interfaces for variosu medical soft. Even Mcallister is releasing the Android 4.0 itnerface for Avimark for veterinary hospitals.
I thought you meant they use the A500 to scale, not plug in a usb scale attachment. I was wandering how, use the digitizer to sense weight? COOL!!!! They might have a reason for that because A500 can record the weights.

Replacing my laptop with Galaxy Note

I originally purchased the Galaxy Note around 1.5 months ago on a £27 GBP per month 24-month contract from 3 (including 500 minutes, 5000 texts and unlimited data) with the purpose of it saving me the costs of two devices. So far, it has proved more than capable as serving as both a tablet and phone, but I want to try and extend that. After spending a few ill days using solely the Note, I've found I'm able to complete almost all my regular PC tasks that I would carry out on my laptop on my Note instead.
Thanks to Polaris Office, which comes pre-installed on the phone, I can even do the majority of my school homework on my device with reminders set on S Memo and S Planner. S Note helps me organise recipes for my passion for cooking, whilst Nova launcher allows me to have several slots on my dock bar coupled with a default ICS look for a tablet-like experience. The sites which I visit frequently, such as YouTube and Facebook, all have adequate enough apps and Thumb Keyboard makes typing on the Note (be it landscape or portrait) a breeze. So, fading out my laptop usage seems like the natural thing to do in my mind.
However, before I am able to do that I have a few things I need to sort out first and I have taken the liberty to write them out below with the hope that someone hear can help me with one or more of these issues I face.
Firstly, the Galaxy Note only delivers around 4/5 hours of screen time, which isn't awful but an improvement is always welcome. So, I am looking for a larger battery, but I still need to fit my phone into a case so I don't want one which increases the size of my device. Any recommendations that aren't ridiculously priced as I don't have an awful lot of money with £27 out of £40 allowance going towards this phone?
Next, I am looking for a case for my Note which both protects the back of the device and the camera, which I have heard to be prone to scratches, plus the screen. So, a flip-case seems most appropriate. I love the styling of the Zenus one found here, but it is rather expensive. So, does anyone know of some cheaper alternatives with a similar styling? I want one with a kickstand so I can view movies from my bedside cabinet or set it up to play some games using a gaming pad.
Unfortunately, as with every device, severely heavy usage does mean you have to charge at least once a day. Unfortunately, the charger which came with my phone does not reach from a mains plug to a chair in my living room or bedroom. So, could anyone recommend a longer wire approximately four metres in length for a decent price?
I also have a few questions regarding the software of the Galaxy Note. My phone suffers from the brick-bug thanks to accepting an upgrade before checking online, which was in hindsight a little foolish, and also the deep sleep bug. The brick bug should, hopefully, receive a fix from Samsung. But, if this comes in the form of an update, will it not wipe data and trigger the bug or shall this update be safe? As for the deep sleep bug, what can I do to try to trigger my phone into deep sleep? I already get around 15 hours of light use on my phone, which is still better than any other smartphone I have (admittedly just an old HTC Desire and Samsung Wave), but as I said all improvements are welcome. Any ideas?
OnLive allows you to pull of full HD gaming with the likes of Homefront available on the service to play on your mobile. I want to know how connecting the "Universal Wireless Controller" works? Is it compatible with ICS?
Finally, I am looking for some app recommendations. Open to all suggestions.
EDIT 1: I am also looking for a 32GB Micro-SD/SD card (whichever one the Galaxy Note takes) for the cheapest price available. I have heard of some 64GB cards working too, but unless they are for a reasonable price I am uninterested. Any suggestions for a cheap card for storing some media on? I am also looking for PC software to rip my DVDs to place them onto my SD card. I have loads of television show box-sets that have 20 minute long episodes just perfect for a bus trip, for example.
EDIT 2: So, upon some reading, I've heard lots of people saying how a screen protector is a must. I certainly didn't think so, but I trust the people on here to not steer me wrong. The issue I have with many screen protectors is that they add a weird texture for touching and also are absolutely a nightmare to get on. Anyone know of a screen protector which doesn't impair the comfort of touching and using the S-Pen on the screen?
Brad387 said:
I originally purchased the Galaxy Note around 1.5 months ago on a £27 GBP per month 24-month contract from 3 (including 500 minutes, 5000 texts and unlimited data) with the purpose of it saving me the costs of two devices. So far, it has proved more than capable as serving as both a tablet and phone, but I want to try and extend that. After spending a few ill days using solely the Note, I've found I'm able to complete almost all my regular PC tasks that I would carry out on my laptop on my Note instead.
Thanks to Polaris Office, which comes pre-installed on the phone, I can even do the majority of my school homework on my device with reminders set on S Memo and S Planner. S Note helps me organise recipes for my passion for cooking, whilst Nova launcher allows me to have several slots on my dock bar coupled with a default ICS look for a tablet-like experience. The sites which I visit frequently, such as YouTube and Facebook, all have adequate enough apps and Thumb Keyboard makes typing on the Note (be it landscape or portrait) a breeze. So, fading out my laptop usage seems like the natural thing to do in my mind.
However, before I am able to do that I have a few things I need to sort out first and I have taken the liberty to write them out below with the hope that someone hear can help me with one or more of these issues I face.
Firstly, the Galaxy Note only delivers around 4/5 hours of screen time, which isn't awful but an improvement is always welcome. So, I am looking for a larger battery, but I still need to fit my phone into a case so I don't want one which increases the size of my device. Any recommendations that aren't ridiculously priced as I don't have an awful lot of money with £27 out of £40 allowance going towards this phone?
Next, I am looking for a case for my Note which both protects the back of the device and the camera, which I have heard to be prone to scratches, plus the screen. So, a flip-case seems most appropriate. I love the styling of the Zenus one found here, but it is rather expensive. So, does anyone know of some cheaper alternatives with a similar styling? I want one with a kickstand so I can view movies from my bedside cabinet or set it up to play some games using a gaming pad.
Unfortunately, as with every device, severely heavy usage does mean you have to charge at least once a day. Unfortunately, the charger which came with my phone does not reach from a mains plug to a chair in my living room or bedroom. So, could anyone recommend a longer wire approximately four metres in length for a decent price?
I also have a few questions regarding the software of the Galaxy Note. My phone suffers from the brick-bug thanks to accepting an upgrade before checking online, which was in hindsight a little foolish, and also the deep sleep bug. The brick bug should, hopefully, receive a fix from Samsung. But, if this comes in the form of an update, will it not wipe data and trigger the bug or shall this update be safe? As for the deep sleep bug, what can I do to try to trigger my phone into deep sleep? I already get around 15 hours of light use on my phone, which is still better than any other smartphone I have (admittedly just an old HTC Desire and Samsung Wave), but as I said all improvements are welcome. Any ideas?
OnLive allows you to pull of full HD gaming with the likes of Homefront available on the service to play on your mobile. I want to know how connecting the "Universal Wireless Controller" works? Is it compatible with ICS?
Finally, I am looking for some app recommendations. Open to all suggestions.
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Brad, you put a lot into this post. I'm not able to comment on all of it, but good luck in your pursuit of a single device.
I cannot offer an alternative to Zenus, but can attest to the quality of their cases. If you go their route, you won't be disappointed.
As far as cables, I'd suggest checking out Cables-To-Go. They have tons available online.
And lastly, there are a lot of app recommendation threads out there... but for your purpose I might suggest "Papyrus". It is a very slick note taking application with some nice features.
Good luck!
The On live universal controller works. Used it on stock gingebread. Never tried on ice cream sandwich.
I find the blackberry charger works well. Its pretty long.
I suggest you head to the market and get the longest (branded) charger you can find.
Does anyone know whether the Note requires more power to charge the Note like the iPad needs a more powerful charger and cannot use the iPhone 4's charger.
Thanks.
I have a charging doc with slot to charge an extra battery. Bought the dock with two batteries for less than $20 on Ebay. The batteries are not the quality of the original but still are serviceable. I have since ordered two OEM batteries still in the blister packs (also on Ebay cellphone dealer for $7.00 ea.) just because the price was good.
I'm never without my Note anytime I'm awake.
I am also looking for a 32GB Micro-SD/SD card (whichever one the Galaxy Note takes) for the cheapest price available. I have heard of some 64GB cards working too, but unless they are for a reasonable price I am uninterested. Any suggestions for a cheap card for storing some media on? I am also looking for PC software to rip my DVDs to place them onto my SD card. I have loads of television show box-sets that have 20 minute long episodes just perfect for a bus trip, for example.
CorruptedSanity said:
I find the blackberry charger works well. Its pretty long.
I suggest you head to the market and get the longest (branded) charger you can find.
Does anyone know whether the Note requires more power to charge the Note like the iPad needs a more powerful charger and cannot use the iPhone 4's charger.
Thanks.
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Well, thanks, but I don't own a Blackberry charger as Blackberry devices have never ever appealed to me.
stiffi2011 said:
The On live universal controller works. Used it on stock gingebread. Never tried on ice cream sandwich.
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Well, I am using the stock ICS. But, still...thanks. I am sure someone here might found that information useful.
CGI_Ram said:
Brad, you put a lot into this post. I'm not able to comment on all of it, but good luck in your pursuit of a single device.
I cannot offer an alternative to Zenus, but can attest to the quality of their cases. If you go their route, you won't be disappointed.
As far as cables, I'd suggest checking out Cables-To-Go. They have tons available online.
And lastly, there are a lot of app recommendation threads out there... but for your purpose I might suggest "Papyrus". It is a very slick note taking application with some nice features.
Good luck!
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I am sure the Zenus cases are of a sufficient quality, but they are around £40 GBP which is just ridiculous for a case in my opinion. I am looking for a similar styled one, but cheaper.
So, upon some reading, I've heard lots of people saying how a screen protector is a must. I certainly didn't think so, but I trust the people on here to not steer me wrong. The issue I have with many screen protectors is that they add a weird texture for touching and also are absolutely a nightmare to get on. Anyone know of a screen protector which doesn't impair the comfort of touching and using the S-Pen on the screen?
All i can say is dont go for the really cheap screen protectors, as you get what you pay for, But on the other hand, dont get ripped off and pay a fortune either !
Have a read through this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332004&page=27
People have reviewed their protectors so you might find one thats just right for you.
Good ones wont affect the S-Pen, But if they do, there are a few screen tuner apps on the market to adjust the sensitivity.
a protector is a must for me ! No matter how tough the gorilla glass is, Its not un-scratch able, just scratch resistant.
azzledazzle said:
All i can say is dont go for the really cheap screen protectors, as you get what you pay for, But on the other hand, dont get ripped off and pay a fortune either !
Have a read through this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332004&page=27
People have reviewed their protectors so you might find one thats just right for you.
Good ones wont affect the S-Pen, But if they do, there are a few screen tuner apps on the market to adjust the sensitivity.
a protector is a must for me ! No matter how tough the gorilla glass is, Its not un-scratch able, just scratch resistant.
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Thanks for such a quick reply and I am reading through that thread right now. I am looking for a screen protector which does not effect the S-Pen nor ruin the quality of the image of the screen. Anti-glare for greater outdoor visibility would also be nice. I've heard of anti-fingerprint too, which again would be nice. What screen protector are using might I ask?
theres a whole range of cases available for the Note, I personally like the wallet cases, as it saves me some room in my pocket
theres a case thread in the accessory section too, Have a look through there, It all depends what you are looking for !
TPU, Leather, Plastic, Carbon faker * I mean fibre*
Wallet, flip, hard shell......... you can see where im going with this right ?
azzledazzle said:
theres a whole range of cases available for the Note, I personally like the wallet cases, as it saves me some room in my pocket
theres a case thread in the accessory section too, Have a look through there, It all depends what you are looking for !
TPU, Leather, Plastic, Carbon faker * I mean fibre*
Wallet, flip, hard shell......... you can see where im going with this right ?
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I am also looking for an SD card, big as possible for as cheap as possible, and also a solution to the sleep bug I have where my phone won't deep sleep.
Im gonna let you in to a little secret here Not many people know about it but if you go here, Magic Place Full of Info
you can find out a whole array of things.
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Im gonna let you in to a little secret here Not many people know about it but if you go here, Magic Place Full of Info
you can find out a whole array of things.
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http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...urce=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search
What do you think about this SD card? Think it'd do the job okay?
yeah I only use a class 4 SD card also, Ive had it for ages and it does the job so i kept it.
However, the higher the class, the faster the read/write speeds are, If that isnt an issue then go for that one as its reasonably priced.
I'd avoid ebay unless you find a well known ebayer as there are a lot of scams about, People selling 32gb class 10 cards that turn out to be 8gb class 2 or something lol
keep your wits about ya
Good post Brad....I've always searched for the single 'converged' device and the Note has pretty much done the trick.
Apps like Evernote especially and Springpad are great catch all apps allowing cloud storage, organization, and easy access of ALL of your data and documents...checked Em out.
Some big (work) sites tho, so just aren't displayed well on the note compared to my lap top so have to use it sometimes, and that's about the only downside.
rockky said:
Good post Brad....I've always searched for the single 'converged' device and the Note has pretty much done the trick.
Apps like Evernote especially and Springpad are great catch all apps allowing cloud storage, organization, and easy access of ALL of your data and documents...checked Em out.
Some big (work) sites tho, so just aren't displayed well on the note compared to my lap top so have to use it sometimes, and that's about the only downside.
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Well, frankly, I spend most of my internet time on a small selection of sites. Facebook, YouTube and many more all have mobile apps/versions of their site.
I am looking for...
a good screen protector which doesn't ruin the screen or S-Pen
a charging cable around 4 metres in length
a case which offers protection to the camera, back and front/screen

[Q] Looking for Nexus 4 virtual Template model

Currently i am planning on getting the Nexus4,
And also i have plans to design my own protective case for it and have it be printed in 3D.
Though to design a case that doesnt only look good but also fits tightly on to the body of the phone i'm gonna need to have a reference model.
With a reference model i can create a case that fits snug around the phone and doesnt have it slide around, but also doesnt scrape/damage the phone.
Does anyone know how i could obtain a accurate virtual representation of the phone?
Here are some examples of 3d printed cases made for the (much easier to reverse engineer) iphone4:
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_708555_599851_1349823649.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_729922_621124_1351092787.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_383278_146878_1338413388.jpg
And heres a link from a shapeways page:
http://www.shapeways.com/model/3619...-swirl-puzzle-style.html?li=productBox-search
I'm interested in this too so I can create a DIY carbon fiber cut-out.
carbon fiber cut-out
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I dont know why people insist on carbon fiber accessories when the material dampers wireless (wifi, BT, antenna) performance
Well ****. This sounds like an awesome idea. Hope you're able to get an accurate model of the device (and share). I'd like to do something like this as well. Maybe a cool case with "bolts" printed into it to make it look like it was pieced together and NEXUS cut out in the back
I haven't even been able to find an official press render of the thing over 500x500 or so in size so I can start working on a .psd for the device. Good luck finding a 3D reference lol
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Good luck with this! It looks cool but I doubt you will find anything this early before it's even released. Your best bet might be to just wait for it to be released and then get someone to make it for you or do it yourself.
good to see positive reactions about it, if i cannot get a reference model i might just have to "reverse engineer" the entire thing.
Though this would be quite the complex process, mostly because it's a highly reflective object.
Most 3dscanners are based on laserlight that bounces away if the object is shiney. Though i dont feel like spraypainting/powdercoating a brand new phone to make it non-reflective
Another way would be to use a tactile scanner that uses a 3 axis "stylus" to put points down in 3d space.
Though the point of such a device is always razor sharp, i dont know how it will fair against gorilla glass and the plastic on the side.
Also this method is very succeptible to having the model slide around while trying to digitise it, even if it's just fractions of mm's
ah well, ill first have to get my hands on to the phone....
MissStabby said:
good to see positive reactions about it, if i cannot get a reference model i might just have to "reverse engineer" the entire thing.
Though this would be quite the complex process, mostly because it's a highly reflective object.
Most 3dscanners are based on laserlight that bounces away if the object is shiney. Though i dont feel like spraypainting/powdercoating a brand new phone to make it non-reflective
Another way would be to use a tactile scanner that uses a 3 axis "stylus" to put points down in 3d space.
Though the point of such a device is always razor sharp, i dont know how it will fair against gorilla glass and the plastic on the side.
Also this method is very succeptible to having the model slide around while trying to digitise it, even if it's just fractions of mm's
ah well, ill first have to get my hands on to the phone....
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I'd suggest checking with a T-Mobile store and seeing if they have any plastic dummy phones or check eBay. Spray painting that would be much less harmful haha I'm definitely in this project. I'd like a cool custom case
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Any updates on this? A quick google search popped up a few models on a site called turbosquid, but the price is fairly prohibitive.
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/lg-google-nexus-4-3ds/707234
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-hd-lg-nexus-4-model/706053
Was looking at possibly designing a case and/or dock myself. Any luck with finding a 3d model of the Nexus 4?
We could always try different sizes and see if they fit on the phone. Considering high prices of 3d prints, the best idea would be to just print some little parts and then compare with the actual phone. The cheapest dummy I found is http://www.trait-tech.com/product/T-LG-E960__dummy-phone-model-for-lg-e960-nexus-4.html so you don't have to worry that you'll scratch your phone. If anyone here owned a 3d printer, that'd be great.
Edit: found one 3d case - http://m.videobash.com/picture/view/id/95415
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=508b9662e69e85ff5250d066f73ee4b9
Edit 2: you might like it - http://grabcad.com/library/nexus-4-case
Did you get anywhere with the nexus 4 case?
I'm trying to get someone to design one to cover my note 2 battery in my phone lol.
The back of my phone is covered in electrical tape at the moment. Not a good look lol!
MissStabby said:
Currently i am planning on getting the Nexus4,
And also i have plans to design my own protective case for it and have it be printed in 3D.
Though to design a case that doesnt only look good but also fits tightly on to the body of the phone i'm gonna need to have a reference model.
With a reference model i can create a case that fits snug around the phone and doesnt have it slide around, but also doesnt scrape/damage the phone.
Does anyone know how i could obtain a accurate virtual representation of the phone?
Here are some examples of 3d printed cases made for the (much easier to reverse engineer) iphone4:
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_708555_599851_1349823649.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_729922_621124_1351092787.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_383278_146878_1338413388.jpg
And heres a link from a shapeways page:
http://www.shapeways.com/model/3619...-swirl-puzzle-style.html?li=productBox-search
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3d models of the nexus 4
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?tags=nexus+4
http://grabcad.com/library/nexus-4
http://3docean.net/item/google-nexus-4/4487363
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thaaaanks! :good:
MissStabby said:
thaaaanks! :good:
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Can you help me out? I need a case, any case lol that's a little bigger at the back to accommodate my note 2 battery!
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ill have to check, also i'm still looking into the models to see if they are actually based on cad and measurements instead of just visual reference.
For a holder/case/expansioncase the model needs to be accurate to fractions of millimeters.

My Samsung Smart PC pro 700t case and beyond

Hi all,
Been a while since I posted in these forums! I think my last check in was around the time of the HTC Titan.
Anyhow, I recently I have been designing cases for high end tablets. I just finished work on the Samsung Ativ700t. Check it out.
Demo and making of.
http://youtu.be/-QlsQIz71KU
Now that I'm finished with the Ativ I'm looking for the next best high end tablet to work on. I was thinking that the Helix may be a good fit.
The Surface Pro seems like it would be fun but MS seems to have things pretty well covered already with their kickstand and keyboard cover.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Isaiah Coberly
Routb3d said:
Hi all,
Been a while since I posted in these forums! I think my last check in was around the time of the HTC Titan.
Anyhow, I recently I have been designing cases for high end tablets. I just finished work on the Samsung Ativ700t. Check it out.
Demo and making of.
http://youtu.be/-QlsQIz71KU
Now that I'm finished with the Ativ I'm looking for the next best high end tablet to work on. I was thinking that the Helix may be a good fit.
The Surface Pro seems like it would be fun but MS seems to have things pretty well covered already with their kickstand and keyboard cover.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Isaiah Coberly
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Yes, what about a 500t one? There is a lot more demand for the 500t tablet than the 700t.
Appreciate the video for the fabrication process.
Looks like Batman armor. You should stick in a bat insignia (and hope DC Comics won't sue). Suggest Batman-style "musculature" styling accents. Glow accents? (http://thatscoolwire.com) Right now it looks...utilitarian. No sizzle. For high-end toys, you want some panache. A little je ne sais quoi.
The handstrap in the back looks useful and you should use it as the leading pitch, since most cases don't have the feature. As a logical progression, suggest enhancing strap with a 360 pivot--although it would be wasted on Windows tabs, since Win8 Metro is still functionally limited to landscape. Which segues to another question: Why Windows tablets, which has about zero market share? Why not popular Android tablets? Adjustable retention tabs?
Frankly, the origami folds look way too complicated to use, and can't be locked in place for optimal touch use, ie if you press on the screen, the whole thing bounces up and down like a bad shock absorber. Apple's tri-fold is the simplest and best. That allows two incline angles (for viewing & typing), which is all you need. You can allow said tri-fold in both landscape & portrait orientations, ie a tic-tac-toe pattern.
>Yes, what about a 500t one?
With a $129 price, OP is right in sticking to high-end toys. I think he can simplify the design and reduce a substantial part of the labor. But for higher volume (for lower margin), he'd need to go to a mass production process anyway.
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Appreciate the video for the fabrication process.
Looks like Batman armor. You should stick in a bat insignia (and hope DC Comics won't sue). Suggest Batman-style "musculature" styling accents. Glow accents? (http://thatscoolwire.com) Right now it looks...utilitarian. No sizzle. For high-end toys, you want some panache. A little je ne sais quoi.
The handstrap in the back looks useful and you should use it as the leading pitch, since most cases don't have the feature. As a logical progression, suggest enhancing strap with a 360 pivot--although it would be wasted on Windows tabs, since Win8 Metro is still functionally limited to landscape. Which segues to another question: Why Windows tablets, which has about zero market share? Why not popular Android tablets? Adjustable retention tabs?
Frankly, the origami folds look way too complicated to use, and can't be locked in place for optimal touch use, ie if you press on the screen, the whole thing bounces up and down like a bad shock absorber. Apple's tri-fold is the simplest and best. That allows two incline angles (for viewing & typing), which is all you need. You can allow said tri-fold in both landscape & portrait orientations, ie a tic-tac-toe pattern.
>Yes, what about a 500t one?
With a $129 price, OP is right in sticking to high-end toys. I think he can simplify the design and reduce a substantial part of the labor. But for higher volume (for lower margin), he'd need to go to a mass production process anyway.
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Yours is the best reaction I think I've ever gotten from one of my videos! I woke up, Read your review and subsequently woke my girlfriend up Giggling at the thought of the Batcase. Seriously though, "Batman, if you're really out there, I want to make your case!". You know he wouldn't be caught dead with an iPad!
As for the rest of the suggestions and comments.
Hand Strap
There are other cases that have the hand strap. You are the third to suggest a swiveling hand strap. I'll look into it and see if I can find a way to Swivel the hand strap without increasing the thickness of the case too much. Too much is any more than .07".
The Price
The Ativ family of tablets taught me something about price. I initially offered the case for both the 500T and the 700T at $99. I had way more interest for the 500T but way more orders for the 700T. I Think of it like this, If someone were to offer me one of the two tablets for free, I would certainly take the 700t. That said, the people who bought the 500T most likely settled. It's that same decision making that prevents the majority of them from justifying a case that is X11 more expensive than the cheapest case they can get. Not every tablet has a bigger brother to separate out the price conscious shoppers so I'm greatful for having accidentally stumbled into the Ativ family. Though my product has the potential to be much more widely adopted, I am fine with the idea that I can continue making small quantities of hand made cases For a fair and sustainable price. With limited time and resources, it's imperative that I find tablet users that recognize the value in what I do. The very tablet that my potential customers buy tells me something about their decision making. I will never hand make a case for a product that someone has most likely settled for.
Origami Folds
The cover automatically folds into the stand. A child can do this. There's a removably attached Teather that activates this folding mechanism. The auto fold is one of the surprising features of the case. When people see the case in action for the first time They experience some rare form of the Bewilderment that is particularly stronger when they see it in person.. Because it delights people, The case is a lot of fun for show and tell. It is really commonly stated from users that they are giving demos in public places to perfect strangers and loving Or loathing the attention.
The stand has a very minimal amount of spring even before the live hinges are broken-in and is a sturdy enough stand that you would literally destroy the case before it would collapse/bend into an unusable viewing angle.
I couldn't agree less about the trifold being the best or better solution. The trifold is a design that fails to adapt and requires way more energy and attention to actually set up. If you can open a book cover and set something down you can use my case. The structure of the case will naturally adapt whether you're setting it down on a table, a knee, a pile of laundry or an un-even surface of any kind. I have literally had Amputees writing me and telling me that they love my case because they don't need a second hand to use it.
Thanks! And great reply!
Isaiah Coberly

Question Looking beyond the basic table top 3D printers

There are a couple of things I am interested in and I am sure that means that it would require a different type of 3D printer for each need. When I mean this, there are table top 3D prints for what I would consider modeling or basic stuff and then there are 3D printers that use cement to 3D print homes now. Each is a 3D printer but for very different things.
If I were to make a list of things that I would love to 3D print, here they are.
1. Teeth, yes I said it and most modern dentist offices 3d scan your mouth and send files somewhere and replacement teeth are regularly printed. I want to to cut their overhead out and take the 3D scans and to it myself. All I care about for the dentist is paying the labor to have them installed. Why do you need to pay your dentist $15000 for implants you can 3D print yourself for $5, So what if they charge you $500 to install them, that is still cheaper than they were going to charge you.
2. Car body parts, for some of the older people here or car enthusiast back in the 1980's Pontiac made a car called the pontiac fiero. The Pontiac Fiero is a car where you could buy complete body kits and make it look like any car you wanted in your own driveway. So I am interested in being able to 3D print front and rear car bumpers, spoilers, front lips, trim pieces ,etc, etc, etc
3. Aluminum alloy wheels for your car. I want to be able to 3D print my own car wheels with spoke designs I want because I cannot find what I want from any of the companies already making car wheels.
4. Cell phone cases
5. Custom brackets for photography and videography equipment

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