Hi there,
In this first post of mine, I would like to thank the moderators of this wonderful website/forum for all the help!!
I received a Kindle fire as gift from a relative in the US but i guess he didnt know that it wont work outside of the US. But then I stumbled upon XDA Forum..
Reading about the new 6.2.2 update from Amazon, i was a little worried as I had taken pains to root my kindle just a couple of days ago and have been enjoying my first android experience. A lil bit of googling told me that "maybe" OTA wont happen outside of the US but little did I know that this "maybe" carried so much weight.
Last night Amazon did the unimaginable and pushed 6.2.2 into my kindle, to my utmost horror. BUT THEN the UNTHINKABLE happened. My kindle seems to have fought back and it has retained the Root. Everything that i installed from Android market works!!
My question : ISNT THIS WEIRD??
Are you sure you have root? Test a app that requires root. Titanium backup, Root explorer, etc..
Losing root doesn't mean that you lose installed apps. So answering your question that is not weird. And since its your first android experience, and I think first experience with modyfying system at all, I suggest you read through the forum before starting new threads. No offence, just suggesting.
This OTA update just happened to hit my kindle fire device about 30 minutes ago. I happened to be playing one of the game that I downloaded from market android, at the end of the game there was an offering to download another free game, but when I push the download screen it actually linked me to amazon store, so I manually tried to open market android. This is the time that I realized my kindle already get updated to 6.2.2. All apps already installed worked fine, except market android
Related
Earlier I posted about bypassing the 6.2 update and future updates from Amazon------->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19850082&postcount=85
I wanted to see if there were settings to disable automatic updates on the kindle and checked the license agreement and terms of use and that's when I noticed it said :
"In order to keep amazon silk up to at, amazon may automatically update or upgrade the software at any time and without notice to you. Further, amazon may change, suspend, or discontinue Amazon silk or any part of Amazon silk without notice or liability."
There is more in the Disclaimer, in regards to silk. Read it.
This whole update thing seems really strange to me.
I'm still looking for an alternative e-reader besides the kindle app. it does in fact ask me to register with amazon, but only when I try to access external reading material(not purchased from amazon) in my carousel . I can pretty much access the apps and sites fine without amazon registration.
I want to know what this update actually does and it seems no one knows besides suspecting it's purpose is to unroot .At first, I just wanted to make sure I could negate amazon's updates if they decided to start a war to avoid having to perpetually customize my kindle but now, I wonder what they are to.
I found this article about Amazon being sneaky and I will definitely hold off on this update. Apparently, they are being very discreet about the personal information collected from kindle users and kindle sales.
You can read the article here:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...n_Kindle_Fire_s_data_harvesting?taxonomyId=15
here's another w/ video commentary from google about silk
http://www.techi.com/2011/10/amazon-silk-is-just-another-invasion-of-privacy/
Well, in the meantime I am enjoying the heck out of my KF while all this hoopla goes down. I have modded it to my satisfaction and the update was just a minor inconvenience while it improved the function of the unit.
Since I do not use the silk browser, Dolphin instead, I wonder if the privacy issue applies to that browser too. I would think on Dolphin it is a matter of what DNS your network is using and thats that.
I don't like this, although I'm not surprised...
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Dont like silk? Turn it off, problem solved.
The update had nothing to do with root, otherwise people wouldn't have been able to reroot so easily.
Sent from my HTC Evo 3D.
Amazon could care less about me being rooted, and if they did, they would probably would have done more than inconvenience me for the one minute it took to re-root. The nook tablets boot loader is locked because of some deal with Netflix streaming in HD on the nook tablet. Very doubtable that they would start caring now about a few people rooting their devices, seeing as how it doesn't really hurt their business.
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Hello all,
Long time member of XDA, and love of android devices.
I just got a KF and am pretty excited to see what this thing can do.
I am interested in rooting it, mainly for all my android games that I have but dont want to lose any features.
So far this sounds like CM7 is the way to go due to no HD on CM9?
However by rooting I lose the Amazon interface completely right? This I would maybe like due to the e-books I have as well.
Any suggestions on best ROM, kernels?
Recommended Recoverys/root methods?
Thanks!
+1 on best rooting method. I get mine Wed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23537660&postcount=1011
Rooting Basics
ssmercurys said:
Hello all,
Long time member of XDA, and love of android devices.
I just got a KF and am pretty excited to see what this thing can do.
I am interested in rooting it, mainly for all my android games that I have but dont want to lose any features.
So far this sounds like CM7 is the way to go due to no HD on CM9?
However by rooting I lose the Amazon interface completely right? This I would maybe like due to the e-books I have as well.
Any suggestions on best ROM, kernels?
Recommended Recoverys/root methods?
:
Thanks!
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Sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too!
Well you can, sort of.
Rooting the Fire by itself, doesn't remove the kindle interface, although it does affect the ability to buy or watch a movie from Amazon unless you temporarily unroot the device, which is easy to do with an unroot app. What rooting does is give you control over the Fire so you can download from other markets other than Amazon and install other Android roms.
Even using the stock Kindle you can read other books on it. I use a program on my win PC,Calibre, to download and convert other books onto the kindle, works great.
But, not as much fun as installing and playing around with other roms. Using a good recovery program like TWRP, will let you backup and restore both the stock Kindle any any of the other Android versions you install. The KFU program link in post #3 in this thread is a good start to get your device rooted, new boot program, and recovery program. I did mine without it, step by step, but it sounds pretty easy and reliable. I would suggest reading up on it first though.
I'm using the rooted stock kindle, Cyanogenmod 7, and the Energy version of ICS. It has a few bugs, no video hardware assist but other than that runs well. The key is being able to backup and restore, so if you don't like one version, you just go back to another.
my expiriences
Personally ive installed a couple Roms cm7 being my favorite but I reverted back to the of stock Rom and just use go launcher ex. Rooting is worth it if you don't have amazon prime but if you do the amazon instant video is a loss but with the android market installed then you can still buy movies with that. Twrp is also needed but my favorite is simple changing the annoying rotating wallpaper.
I'm new to the Kindle Fire party as well... I managed to use the Kindle Fire Utility to perm root, install TWRP, and then FireFireFire. Following that, I installed the CM7 rom by Whistlestop and it seems to be running fine so far.
My only question is this:
Since I just got my Kindle Fire, I have Amazon Prime and want to use instant video. Is there any easy way to get instant video running on the CM7 Kindle Fire? I understand the need and method to hide root or temporarily unroot, but I've seen posts saying install some amazon account stuff, then the app.
Are there any simple steps to take in order to do this properly and watch my amazon prime instant videos on cm7?
( example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347745 )
I have joined the ranks of the kindle fire with the 139 deal. I was about to drop on a ipad2 3g referb but jumped on the KF. I'm looking to root and install the go lanucher Ex and Play store.
My questions
1. How is the stock KF on battery life compaired to the CM7 rom?
2. I love how my Galaxy S2 functions and way to recreate that on the KF?
Hi guys,
This issue has undoubtedly been asked before but can anyone confirm a 100% successful rooting of the kindle fire from outside the states (and how did u do it/guide please)?
Preliminary searching on google for rooting the fire seems to suggest its plagued with difficulty issues/bricking etc if yer outside US Soil. I won my kindle fire and so far my wife has been using it simply as an ereader, but we can't access any of the services or download and install a single app (due to not having a credit card with a USA Address). I'm guessing this is why non usa ppl are having issues, is their an app we need to install on the device to successfully root it? It's a pretty useless tablet at the moment for us, but when I do get to steal it away from my wife (for half an hour) i want to hand it back rooted, with android market (google play?) so we can turn this thing into a more useful device.
I absolutely cannot hand it back to her bricked lol.
So please, if yer from the states this questions is unlikely for you as its doubtful u have encountered the issues us international users have.
Like i said above I can't really find in google any 'international' root guide, the videos/instructions are clearly from a 'within USA' procedure and then when you look at the comments plenty of people are getting stuck at 'part x' with no sign of help or assistance.
FYI i reside in Australia.
if you root it that has nothing to do with your location
for rooting refer to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23589931#post23589931
btw. im not in the us also
cheers for that, will look into it. Just wanted to make sure. How come typing in google such things as 'kindle fire root international" or "worldwide" etc doesn't show this thread :S
would think because rooting has noting to do with international or worldwide
btw. every information i ever needed is here at xda - most articles out there refer to here - if there are some interesting articles outside they are usually linked here also - and the search function of xda is great !
Just follow the instruction at the following thread to root KF any where:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20668030
After rooting, you can install Google apps and download applications from any where.
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thanx guys xD
I'll let u know how i go.
My first hurdle is installing usb adb driver, i'm not on win 7, im on xp pro 32bit, any suggestions?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22342376&postcount=6
ALL Kindle Fires has exactly same ROM, so your region not influenced anyway
My good friend roh rooted it for me this afternoon. xD
I have 2 of the new 2017 HD 8's, one for me and my gf. Im wondering if anyone has been able to find stable root or has any issues for side loading google play?
Primary uses will be to watch kodi, amazon prime tv, netflix, and general social media.
mine comes with the advertisements, but $15 charge to get rid of em, i will have to see how annoying that is.
Appreciate the feedback!
boadicea said:
I have 2 of the new 2017 HD 8's, one for me and my gf. Im wondering if anyone has been able to find stable root or has any issues for side loading google play?
Primary uses will be to watch kodi, amazon prime tv, netflix, and general social media.
mine comes with the advertisements, but $15 charge to get rid of em, i will have to see how annoying that is.
Appreciate the feedback!
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I'm wondering the same, I've got one coming Saturday and I'm kinda scared to update or connect in case I miss an opportunity to root. Hopefully the older methods will work for Play Store and such.
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@boadicea I did find this, a post with apks for sideloading Playstore on the 7th Gen. Hope it works and helps!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603
No root, but google play works
boadicea said:
I have 2 of the new 2017 HD 8's, one for me and my gf. Im wondering if anyone has been able to find stable root or has any issues for side loading google play?
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Nobody's really cracked root on the 2016 or 2017 versions yet, as far as I can tell. There are some folks at LineageOS working on getting a version of that rom onto this device, but not a lot of word so far.
I got Google Play sideloaded successfully by using this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603
NOTE: When you enable the installing of apps from unknown sources, make sure you restart the device before attempting to open any of the downloaded apks. Otherwise, the install button just won't work and you might go crazy trying to figure out why. For whatever reason, Amazon's device settings need a fresh restart after you tick that box.
NOTE 2: If you just bought these, you likely have the 2017 edition. If that's the case, you'll want to pay attention to the red letters in that guide marked "Note (3)".
SOURCE: Just got mine today.
So far there is no root for any Amazon tablet at this time, unless you have an OS earlier than 5.3.2.1. There may not be root at all for these tablets. Amazon offers a 30 day refund policy on them. If you find they aren't for you, that's how long you have to return them
Thank you all for the responses! just unpacked, screen protected, and turned it on. Looks like its running 5.3.3.0 so looks like im SOL for now.
No worries either way, sideloading stuff is all i need. was just meant to allow me to save battery on my phone/usage and not have to be bent over on a laptop.
Will follow the aforementioned guides to install google play
Appreciate the help!
I can suggest three apps to help in the battery, space and memory saving department. 'All In One Toolbox,' 'Brevent' and 'NetGuard.' All available in Google Play Store. If you need help giving All In One Toolbox it's usage access, let me know and I'll link you to a few threads i wrote on how to give apps proper usage access that need it and to revoke the access to some Amazon apps.
I just bought a new 2017 7th generation Fire HD 8 for $50 during prime day sale. I jumped the gun not realizing that there is no root. I have the previous generation fire 7 with Slim Rom installed that I rooted back on Christmas of 2015. It still works great and my kids use it everyday. I'm impressed with the older fire 7 as I have daydream on displaying the weather while it's charging and the daily abuse it gets from the kids. I really would like to have a bigger, better screen with dual audio for the kids, hence why I bought the HD 8. I might return it, or hold on to it till root and custom Rom becomes available... Hopefully in the near future.
having fun
boadicea said:
I have 2 of the new 2017 HD 8's, one for me and my gf. Im wondering if anyone has been able to find stable root or has any issues for side loading google play?
Primary uses will be to watch kodi, amazon prime tv, netflix, and general social media.
mine comes with the advertisements, but $15 charge to get rid of em, i will have to see how annoying that is.
Appreciate the feedback!
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Hi boadicea,
apart from my feedback on Gmail that you can read here,
there is no issue at all at installing (side loading)Google Play.
I just bought my first tablet, and installed Google Play in few seconds following the link above
Only thing where I have been spending some time is to make sure to disable the OTA updates. (my post here)
Happy tweak.
Anyone has been able to root fire hd 8 and install lineage os ?
finwefeanor said:
Anyone has been able to root fire hd 8 and install lineage os ?
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No.
Hello Guys,
I am new here and I just got an old Kindle Fire HD 10 Gift from a friend who said he doesn’t need it anymore.
So I had set it up, put my account to it and found….. It is sooo bloated with all that amazon stuff… It’s ridiculous…. I would say that I do not need like 80% of that stuff and totally miss like google mail, proper YouTube app and a lot more I have not found until now.
So I was looking now for like 3 days, whenever I had the time to search for it, if there is a custom Rom for the Kindle, or maybe root to get Google on the Kindle or how it is to be done to get apps maybe from my phone to the kindle.
Amazon made it really hard for users who are not sucked into the amazon universe to actually enjoy the Kindle, don’t they?
I have a bunch of paid apps in Google, they seem to be all useless now… what really kind of bugs me, because I had hoped to use the kindle as a comic book reader, where I use Comicat on android… no idea if kindle can even open them, but I’ll have to try.
So I would like to ask, are there some ways to root an Kindle Fire HD 10 with Fire OS 5.6.1.0 ? If so, how to do that and are there Custom Roms that would give a more basic Android feel?
I only found mostly some tutorials for 7” and 8”, but rarely for the 10” Tablet and nearly always for other Fire OSes.
So every help would be REALLY appreciated!
Follow this tutorial to get root https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
To make it more stock like after you have rooted you can remove apps using root
You can also install google play store + apps from it by following this https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603
You can also replace the default launcher with another like Nova but at the moment it uses a hack to get around a limitation even on root (Launcher Hijack)
You can also install xposed and there is modules on that which should give back some of your missing features https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-xposed-t3722252
At the moment there is no custom rom but some are in development.
despicablebapple said:
Follow this tutorial
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Awesome, thank you very much, I will check everything and hope to have the Kindle a bit more.... Userfriedly, well, MEfriendly.
It would be indeed really cool if there is at least a bit I can do. Otherwise the Kindle would become more like an Videoplayer for my Kids than anything else... this would be a bit o a waste, as the device itself seems pretty nice.
Edit: The first and third Tutorial are for the 7th Gen HD8/10 Tablets, I have the 5th Gen. Wont there be a problem??
Fathor said:
Awesome, thank you very much, I will check everything and hope to have the Kindle a bit more.... Userfriedly, well, MEfriendly.
It would be indeed really cool if there is at least a bit I can do. Otherwise the Kindle would become more like an Videoplayer for my Kids than anything else... this would be a bit o a waste, as the device itself seems pretty nice.
Edit: The first and third Tutorial are for the 7th Gen HD8/10 Tablets, I have the 5th Gen. Wont there be a problem??
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Sorry for a late reply.
I'm not sure whether it works or not on older tablets, but there won't be a problem. Try it, I'm 99% sure that your tablet will be perfectly okay even it failed, because I tried that and failed, but I'm sending this from my tablet.
Good Luck! :good: