Hello, first of all this is my first post and thread. I have read the rules and searched for a similar thread. I am not stupid and I know how forums work. Now my question is: Which is the most performant kernel for the MT4G?
Know to be more specific, I am looking for a kernel which a very high OC and UV rate. I want something that can easily manage clock speed when it needs it the most. I am interested in genereal boosts of speed, higher I/O managing speeds, better gaming experiences and a longer battery life. I know that the kernel doesnt do all of that but it has a major impact those aspects. I am running CM7 nightly 144. Im hesitating between Faux123 Cm7/AOSP 2.6.35.13 kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113697) and thederekjay 2.6.35.13::demonSPEED INSANITY kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113554). I appreciate anykind of constructive feed back
I personally use demonspeed-insanity. It'll clock up to 1.8 atm. Couple that with the SMARTASS governor and you get a pretty decent balance of battery life to performance.
can't go wrong with either kernel, i've used both and their both outstanding in performance and battery life.
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Thanks for the feedback guys . I'll probably try both of them. I'll post some quadrant benchmarks and battery life results.
Faux 123 1.0.7 is the best IMO, great uv and quadrant scores, got 2600+ on stock and battery life is great.
I have used both kernels and got great battery life from each one. I prefer Faux's kernel for AOSP roms, and thederekjay's kernel for MIUI roms. Faux updated his kernel to OC @ 2.03ghz and its blazing fast
Faux's all day!!!!
He has put in the most work and has the best performance by a wide margin.
Let's all collect our phone specs in one thread and try to make a super build.
Make a list in the form of
ROM:
Kernel:
Radio:
Extra performance or battery enhancing applications(if any):
Quadrant score on average:
Battery life on average:
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Maybe by sharing these information we could help each other improve our phones
Mine:
ROM:CM7 Ba2tf
Kernel:Clemsyn's faux modified kernel elite 1.4
Radio:
Extra performance or battery enhancing applications(if any):CPU Tuner for OC
Quadrant score on average:4200
Battery life on average:21hours on normal usage with lower settings(sadly)
ROM: CM7 Ba2tf (Haven't tried Weekly #3, waiting for another Stable release)
Kernel: faux123's Stock Enhanced Kernel 0.2.2
Radio: N_01.77.36P
Extra performance or battery enhancing applications(if any): SetCPU undervolted (-75 -50 -100 -150 -200 -275 -350) with screen off and battery temp profiles.
Quadrant score on average: Not sure, haven't benchmarked in a while.
Battery life on average: About 30 hours with 4.5 hours with screen on, Wi-Fi on about half of the time, 30 minutes of calls (sometimes like 4 hours but it dies a lot faster), 300 texts a day average (send/receive), Facebook, XDA, and Browsing over 3G and Wi-Fi. Sometimes I get about 40 hours with 5.5 hours with the screen on but that's all just texting and fooling around, no using 3G which is a battery hog. I have background data and auto-sync disable which helps with the battery life a little bit. If anyone has similar or better I'm interested in how they did it. I'd say my phone gets pretty good battery life but better would be nice.
The best Combination of roms, mods and kernels for the least battery drain!!!!!!!!!! :good::good:
One ROM can be really battery-saving for one user, although really battery-consuming for another user.
There is no best, that works the same for everyone.
EDIT: Also, what is 'memory drain' as you wrote in the topic title?
Kernel: LuPus
Rom: FreeXperia
CPU Frequenz: 1401 Mhz
Battery holds about 14 hours for me with intensive of usage
After doing this guide for the OG Nexus 7, I picked up a 2013 version. I'm loving it but my battery life has been a bit all over the place.
I decided to look into kernels and I have come up with the same guide/tests/results that I did on the OG Nexus 7
I was intrigued and decided to work this out for myself and share it with the rest of the community.
This is not meant to hurt the makers of these kernels.
But FIRST, it is not a fact that there is a 'best' kernel. 'Best' is an opinion and everyone has a different opinion.
I personally believe there is no 'bad' kernel and none of these kernels I have tested perform badly or lag heaps.
People still like to push their N7's as hard as they can though.
Please take my results with a grain of salt. This is hardly scientific and results will vary heavily. This is just my results.
The Main 2 Features people look for in a kernel are:
Performance & Battery Life
Some people prefer performance over Battery, or vice versa, or an all-round kernel.
My Setup:
NEXUS 7 (2013)
32GB
Paranoid Android AOSPA RC2
KERNELS
[Sep10] [FLO/DEB] ElementalX 1.4 | S2W | DT2W | OC | UV | GPU OC
by flar2
1.5 Beta
[KERNEL][GPL][N72013] franco.Kernel - r3
by franciscofranco
r3
[KERNEL][09/24]Glitch kernel for Flo - CPU OC/UV 2.3GHz - GPU OC 654MHz - S2W/S2S - SM toolchain
by Tk-Glitch
09/24
[KERNEL|22|09|13][FLO/DEB][n3oFlo_v14|CPUQUIET|DT2W|CPU:2GHz|GPU:487,5|VC|THE RMAL]
by n3ocort3x
v14
[KERNEL][flo]Tinykernel - Updated 9/13/13
by tiny4579
9/13/13
[Kernel] (006_r2) flo/deb JB 4.3 (S2W/UV/CPU/GPU OC/Hybrid Linux 3.4+) [Sep-21]
by faux123
006_r2
[KERNEL][3.4.62][Linaro 4.8] DanKernel - r12
by R930
r12
[Aug 27] [flo/deb] Bulletproof 1.2 | Optimized stock | S2W/DT2W
by flar2
1.2
4.3 Stock Kernel
PERFORMANCE
Performance was tested with Antutu. Tested three times and averaged.
1.5 RESULTS
Kernels set to 1.5GHz max and used the default governor for the test.
1. ElementalX: 20722
2. Bulletproof: 20716
3. Franco: 20571
4. Tinykernel: 20476
5. Glitch: 20435
6. n3oFlo: 20336
7. Dankernel: 20232
8. Faux: 20142
9. Stock: 20098
MAX RESULTS
Kernels set to highest clockspeed available, performance governor.
1. Dankernel (2.0): 24041
2. ElementalX (2.2): 22364
3. Faux (2.3): 22260
4. n3oFlo (2.0): 21578
5. Glitch (2.3): 21541
6. Bulletproof (1.5): 20716
7. Franco (1.5): 20571
8. Tinykernel (1.5): 20476
9. Stock (1.5): 20098
BATTERY LIFE
Default Governor, 100% Brightness
Watching HD 720p Video on a Loop (MX Player Software Decoding) in a 10% range. The reason for this is not to kill my battery lifetime.
Max Freq at stock speed (1.5GHz)
1. ElementalX: 7 hours
2. Glitch: 6 hours 42 minutes
3. Franco: 6 hours 33 minutes
4. Bulletproof: 5 hours 53 minutes
5. n3oFlo: 5 hours 51 minutes
6. Dankernel: 5 hours 44 minutes
7. Faux: 5 hours 35 minutes
8. Tinykernel: 5 hours 27 minutes
9. Stock: 5 hours
Max Freq set as high as it can go.
1. Franco (1.5): 6 hours 33 minutes
2. Bulletproof (1.5):5 hours 53 minutes
3. ElementalX (2.2): 5 hours 41 minutes
4. Tinykernel (1.5): 5 hours 27 minutes
5. Glitch (2.3): 5 hours 13 minutes
6. Faux (2.3): 5 hours 8 minutes
7. Dankernel (2.0): 5 hours 4 minutes
8. n3oFlo (2.0): 5 hours 2 minutes
9. Stock (1.5): 5 hours
OVERALL
Best Performance:
MAX Winner:
[KERNEL][3.4.62][Linaro 4.8] DanKernel - r12
by R930
r12
1.5 Winner:
[Sep10] [FLO/DEB] ElementalX 1.4 | S2W | DT2W | OC | UV | GPU OC
by flar2
1.5 Beta
Best Battery Life:
Overall:
[KERNEL][GPL][N72013] franco.Kernel - r3
by franciscofranco
r3
1.5 Winner:
[Sep10] [FLO/DEB] ElementalX 1.4 | S2W | DT2W | OC | UV | GPU OC
by flar2
1.5 Beta
Best Overall:
[Sep10] [FLO/DEB] ElementalX 1.4 | S2W | DT2W | OC | UV | GPU OC
by flar2
1.5 Beta
[KERNEL][GPL][N72013] franco.Kernel - r3
by franciscofranco
r3
[KERNEL][09/24]Glitch kernel for Flo - CPU OC/UV 2.3GHz - GPU OC 654MHz - S2W/S2S - SM toolchain
by Tk-Glitch
09/24
Spreadsheet Results
Very interesting...
How did you achieve to make nexus 7 boot on 2.2gh on elemental kernel? Mine is crashing all the time in this frequency...
Your AnTuTu Scores seem to be totally weird. With Only 1.8GHz FUAX Kernel reaches over 25.000. I think mabe some kernel will work better on CM ROMs than on Paranoid, so comparing there performance is pretty difficult. When i comes to battery it's really confusing that with some kernels and highly overclocked cpu the battery lasts almost as long as without overclocking.
But thanks for sharing your results. I had already appreciated your work over at old Nexus 7 Thread.
theofanis said:
How did you achieve to make nexus 7 boot on 2.2gh on elemental kernel? Mine is crashing all the time in this frequency...
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I too have my nexus 7 running the 2.2 frequency. It does not crash at all. In fact it literally makes my tablet a super beast. That said though, not all processors are equal... They may all have the same specs yet they are not all equal in the frequencies that they can withstand..it is literally luck the draw...I'm pretty happy though, I always end up with the device that can handle the higher frequencies...I lucked out this time....
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cool ill stick with franco like always then
madphone said:
Your AnTuTu Scores seem to be totally weird. With Only 1.8GHz FUAX Kernel reaches over 25.000. I think mabe some kernel will work better on CM ROMs than on Paranoid, so comparing there performance is pretty difficult. When i comes to battery it's really confusing that with some kernels and highly overclocked cpu the battery lasts almost as long as without overclocking.
But thanks for sharing your results. I had already appreciated your work over at old Nexus 7 Thread.
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The score is similar to what I got on stock JSS15R. Only a few custom aosp and cm based roms have much higher scores at the moment. Reason still remains unknown.
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can you tell us what options you chose when installing Elemental?
Can you please say which governors are default for each one?
madphone said:
Your AnTuTu Scores seem to be totally weird. With Only 1.8GHz FUAX Kernel reaches over 25.000. I think mabe some kernel will work better on CM ROMs than on Paranoid, so comparing there performance is pretty difficult. When i comes to battery it's really confusing that with some kernels and highly overclocked cpu the battery lasts almost as long as without overclocking.
But thanks for sharing your results. I had already appreciated your work over at old Nexus 7 Thread.
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Yeah I was also very confused. Oh well... Don't really want to retest at the moment..
timrock said:
can you tell us what options you chose when installing Elemental?
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Defaults besides the overclocking
Funny thing: I switched from Galaxy Note forums to the Nexus corner and just saw this thread.
In the Note forum best Rom/Kernel threads are immediately closed by the Mods because they are against XDA rules/policy.
"Best" is only a very personal view - and all these tests are without any value (for many reasons).
Thanks, very informational
voted eX v1.4 im on ! u can OC and it still better batterylife then stock! also good antutu score, 21680 i got
ThaiDai said:
Funny thing: I switched from Galaxy Note forums to the Nexus corner and just saw this thread.
In the Note forum best Rom/Kernel threads are immediately closed by the Mods because they are against XDA rules/policy.
"Best" is only a very personal view - and all these tests are without any value (for many reasons).
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Yeah.. I know. I was expecting to get shut down in the original thread but the mods were cool with it. Weird ey.
ThaiDai said:
Funny thing: I switched from Galaxy Note forums to the Nexus corner and just saw this thread.
In the Note forum best Rom/Kernel threads are immediately closed by the Mods because they are against XDA rules/policy.
"Best" is only a very personal view - and all these tests are without any value (for many reasons).
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I think the big difference between this and other "best" threads is this actually has some reasonable information. Other threads that get shut down are mainly "what do you THINK is the best..." and don't have any actual data to go with the opinions. Are these test here definitive? No, but still useful. OP, t:good:hank you for doing this.
Nice to see a thread like this. They are usually not allowed but are extremely helpful for comparing.
Comparing didn't have to mean which is better. It could just be a matter of what someone is looking for.
Sent from my shiny new(bought last Nov), scratch less Nexus 4!
Nice to see a thread like this. They are usually not allowed but are extremely helpful for comparing.
Comparing didn't have to mean which is better. It could just be a matter of what someone is looking for.
Sent from my shiny new(bought last Nov), scratch less Nexus 4!
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Exactly.
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My Best Battery Stats
ROM: CM 10.2 Kang (DJLamontagnelll)
Kernel: Faux 006 (Enhanced Stock)
Best Battery Stats: Screen on 12:33 at 10% battery life.
Dear all members & visitors.
I've been using your roms & kernels since the day our i9000 was released. Big thanks to you all - devs, forum moderators & guests for your fantastic work. This is my first post - hopefully under the right section. Hope it can help somebody to achieve the smoothness & stability out of our old but certainly not dead devices.
So, here are my details:
- running the latest Mackay Rom (4.9.14) with test kernel from Mackay (0.693).
- ART runtime
- kernel tweaker app from market to set the stuff:
-- min. freq. 100mhz @ 975mV
-- max. freq. 1300mhz @ 1350mV
-- row
-- read ahead size 4096
-- low memory killer set to very agressive.
With this configuration I was able to push antutu benchmark till (see attached) 8199. This was my higher score.
Now I am playing with OC 1400mhz, from 1351mV to 1365mV. Stable stuff around 1361mV - but antutu benchmark and quadrant fail to complete.. So no results. Otherwise all other apps work just great. No reboots at all. And the battery..well, I have a 1750mAh battery and with normal usage (phone, sms, gmail) a fully charged phone overnight loses around 15-20% from 07:00 till 14:00. I assume that the battery performs better with ART runtime rather than Dalvik.
With agressive memory killer option i have always around 90-140mb of free ram. I told you - average daily user, not a lot of multitasking/games/other stuff..
So once again, big thanks to ALL devs, from 2.2.1 to 4.4.4, to miui, slim, omni.. I really tried 96% of all the roms here, but settled with Mackay from Kasper & crew. Keep up the good work.
Cheers from Slovenia.
P.S.
If someone has good&better tweaks please share.
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