i was runnind yuki-xbmod on my hd2 and decided to flash Dft ultrafruit. after flashing using magldr usb flasher my micro sd card aint working no more.when its booting it comes toa hault and says "storage card not working".i have tried everything ,even istalling an android build to nand with the card in it but nothing happens. When ever i put it in my pc i hear a sound which shows its been detected but i cant find it in my computer. i tried a nokia phone to format it but it keeps asking me for a password. i have never used a password for it before. can anybody please help me on how to go about this situation.. its a sandisk 16gb class 2 micro sd..
Password on Nokia is just to leave it blank I believe, it locked because you didn't unlock it before flashing.try flashing xboxrom again
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kwartey said:
i was runnind yuki-xbmod on my hd2 and decided to flash Dft ultrafruit. after flashing using magldr usb flasher my micro sd card aint working no more...
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suggest flash back XBmod-Yuki rom with sd card , and send DEV_STORAGELOCK.cab then you can unlock it. after unlock just off then you can flash any other HD2 WP7 rom with this card and work.
if have Nokia phone, just format it (faster then flashing rom again and send cab file) and skip when ask for password.... few time he ask for password but every time dont enter anything and continue until card is formatted...
or just use panasonic sd formater with adjust size checked on
gdsbalaji said:
or just use panasonic sd formater with adjust size checked on
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cant use if card locked
thanks to you all guys. i flashed back yuki-xbmod rom and its working now...u are all lifesavers.thanks again...
No prob at all sir, don't forget the thanks button a be sure to call in again if you need it! =)
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eric1204 said:
suggest flash back XBmod-Yuki rom with sd card , and send DEV_STORAGELOCK.cab then you can unlock it. after unlock just off then you can flash any other HD2 WP7 rom with this card and work.
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i have flashed the DEV_STORAGELOCK.cab . After i did this i placed the sd card in my pc but yet still it cant detect it...whats the problem now???
Did you run the app it installs? After you run the app its unlocked until you boot wp7 again, if you ran it you need to for mat the card as it still won't be seen by windows, go to admin tools and find the storage manager, at work an can't remember the exact name, you will see card listed as unknown, right click an format
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In control panel under admin tools > computer managment
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How could it be possible I always used my 2gb micro SD but last night I made the decision to say bye to winmo n started using my 16gb. So I transfers the android folder to it used it n all was good then I wanted to back up all of my winmo files so i remove the SD card from my phone n place it in my card reader..n said to reformat the card..I HAVE NO ACCESS TO MY SD CARD.. I can't even format it some how it got protected...even my phone days to formatted but is never successful...ANY ADVISE THANK YOU
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ive got a sd problem too. i ever used the same 16gb class2 microsd card tu run android builds and store winmo and android data. last night ive tried to switch from darkstone to matcc android build. i reformatted the sd card, put the files on it (only android folder nothing else) and started android. everything was fine but i´ve got a bsod(radio 2.12.50_2 and german stock vodafone rom). then ive tried another android build but i got the same error(doesnt ever got bsod before). later android didn start at all(every build). then ive tried chuckys rom with matcc vers. 1.5 and ive got the bsod problem again. tried 2 other builds and now andriod doesnt start and i cant even connect my hd2 to my pc(bootloader doesnt connect too) but chucky rom boots correctly. everytime ive tried another build i reformatted my sd card to fat32. hope someone can help me, sorry for bad english.
i got this problem now too. android somehow writeprotected my sd card so i can't put files on or take files off anymore...it's basicallly made my 16gb card useless. can't format or anything. tried through windows mobile, pc, and android...nothing works. anybody know how to fix it?
Same thing happened to me. My class 2 16gb card is now locked and ive found no way to unlock it.
Not that I really liked that card anyway, but it was nice to have so much storage space.
thats no problem. On your adapter for your micro sd card, there is a lock on the side of it. Make sure that it is in the up position. Basically in the unlock position, then it wont be write protected.
No, your not understanding. Its not the physical lock on the adaptor, its a logical lock on the Micro SD itself.
The Micro SD card comes up as locked no matter what I use to try and format, or delete etc.
I've googled like mad trying to find a way to fix it even installing Ubuntu to see if another OS could do it, but everything fails.
Same here I came to a conclusion. That there are some files in the SD card....what was the last buid u were using before this happened...the best solution. For this should be with an android. Phone and astro file management explore the SD card...unlucky. me none of my friends have an android device
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put card in card reader ... format it from command prompt (win+R+cmd+enter)
format X:/fs:fat
X is your card drive letter dont mess up with this one.
Lol I spend hours searching for a solution. N nothing u kno thou theres always hope
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No, your not understanding. Its not the physical lock on the adaptor, its a logical lock on the Micro SD itself.
The Micro SD card comes up as locked no matter what I use to try and format, or delete etc.
I've googled like mad trying to find a way to fix it even installing Ubuntu to see if another OS could do it, but everything fails.
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also u can try something like this:
http://www.diskwipe.org/
_X_ said:
put card in card reader ... format it from command prompt (win+R+cmd+enter)
format X:/fs:fat
X is your card drive letter dont mess up with this one.
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lemme try that...i formatted it through my computer and unchecked "quick format" and after like 30 minutes it finished with an error.. hopefully this works.
gparted
ok..
whats wrong with just formating the card with ' GPARTED ' .. assumption of Linux usage !
or if you use that sloppy old microsoft O/S then use 'paragon partition manager '
job done yea?
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storage tool for wm
Ok
dr_derqami said:
Download " storage tool" for wm. Install it. Send shortcut to start up so that as soon as wm boots it ll find the sd card. When u get storage tool workin u ll have options choose formate or fix the sd then it ll work. It worked for me.
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well formatting it through cmd didn't work...everything was still there on the card. lemme try your method now... thanks.
delete file by file and see which one is locked on the card.
change permissions on the sd card.
try to delete files from the winmo
try to overwrite the android folder and start it with another build and then format after a sucessfull start.
fuzzysig said:
delete file by file and see which one is locked on the card.
change permissions on the sd card.
try to delete files from the winmo
try to overwrite the android folder and start it with another build and then format after a sucessfull start.
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None of this is possible cuz the card is written protected ..try using another device that runs android n try it with astro. Explorer
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malikadnanm said:
well formatting it through cmd didn't work...everything was still there on the card. lemme try your method now... thanks.
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Do u remember which build u were using??
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Do u remember which build u were using??
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yea.. i used mattcleo 1.6b. i can actually still boot up android...but even in android i can't delete anything using astro. I tried replacing android folder using a card reader but that didnt work either... i'm going to try that storage tools suggestion..but i doubt anything will work. CMD finished and said that the disk was unreadable after finishing 99%.
Ok
Sounds like corrupted sectors or damaged disk to me
Put the card into a windows pc and run scandisk on the card, make sure you check : fix errors automatically and scan for bad sectors
In this video i show you how to format your sd card after use with windows phone 7
SD FORMATTER 3.0 http://www.mediafire.com/?kl563ku3pnn3o25
Enjoy!
I just formatted the SD card in android and it worked fine, able to store everything on there and android recognizes it fine. maybe i got lucky
hi 96edwy
i've asked you on your youtube link but also on here if you don't mind
i have a working 8GB PNY micro sd card that has been reformated from 199mb capacity
i want my hd2 wm7 to recognise it so i can use it to store more conversations, applications and put music on
do you have any idea how i can achieve this?
If wp7 doesn't recognise it, maybe its not supported, there is a thread on here with the sd cards that are supported, have you checked if your sd card is supported?
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Thanks for youtube video. I have 16gig that come with htc hd2 some people say it works flawless, but mine keep boot up to DFT and reboot cycle. Rarely I open it up and it will go to windows. So when you install windows phone 7 it will automatic copy file to SD card right?
caubecari said:
Thanks for youtube video. I have 16gig that come with htc hd2 some people say it works flawless, but mine keep boot up to DFT and reboot cycle. Rarely I open it up and it will go to windows. So when you install windows phone 7 it will automatic copy file to SD card right?
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May be WP7 doesnt support your SD Card. Check the supported SD Card list.
guys i did upgrade to win7 , i was fall and rush and didn't read the notices well so is my SD card formatted ? which means all the data lost ???? i had Pim Backup for my contacts and it was there at my SD card , is it lost ?
and how can i back to windows mobile 6.5 again ?? , i tried Energy Custom Roms but it's not working
PLEASE HELP
tantan911 said:
guys i did upgrade to win7 , i was fall and rush and didn't read the notices well so is my SD card formatted ? which means all the data lost ???? i had Pim Backup for my contacts and it was there at my SD card , is it lost ?
and how can i back to windows mobile 6.5 again ?? , i tried Energy Custom Roms but it's not working
PLEASE HELP
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yes sorry to say your sd card is gone, all data is lost.
you can go back to wm6.6 by flashing a stock or custom rom, just boot into the tricolour screen and flash as you would any normal rom
Thanks God anyway
but when i try to flash custom Rom it gaves me connection error on the installation progress
why is that ?
I just mount SD card in MAGLDR then diskpart clean it then format it normally...
allow usb connection from your active sync
tantan911 said:
Thanks God anyway
but when i try to flash custom Rom it gaves me connection error on the installation progress
why is that ?
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you need to allow usb connection from your active sync which is disabled in order to flash wp7
Thanks again
Hey Dude thanks for getting my card back very much appreciated, excellent tutorial
Manual with Command promt
1. Run command prompt with admin privileges
2. Type in diskpart
3. Type in "list disk" to find diskpart's designation for your flash drive
4. Assuming your flash drive is disk 1 type:
a. select disk 1
b. clean
c. create partition primary
d. select partition 1
e. active
f. format fs=fat32 quick
g. assign
h. exit
after runnng wm7, i still can format sdcard by using another android phone/nokia phone. And the sdcard is recognized when my phone is running android/wm7/wm6.5). But there are 2 weird problems that i can't solve:
1. cannot use SD formatter v.30 software to format my sdcard again. always get error message when the format process reaches 30-40%. Even if i pre format my sdcard by using another software(hard disck low level format, partition wizard) /phone( android phone, nokia, window 6.5 phone), SD formatter still can't format my sdcard.
2. cannot install any android SD builds. When the android boots, the screen show me " ... cannot find any logical sector..."
thanks!
96edwy said:
In this video i show you how to format your sd card after use with windows phone 7
Enjoy!
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Thanks mate. It really works. Btw, just a suggestion. Why don't you write a how to bcoz it is not really convenient to watch the video at Office
thanks anyway
I just ran the formatting tool on a WP7 formatted card directly from a usb slot in my PC and it worked??
ohdaesu said:
I just ran the formatting tool on a WP7 formatted card directly from a usb slot in my PC and it worked??
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lol what about it?
96edwy said:
lol what about it?
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why go to all the trouble with the phone when you can just format on ur pc in one click??
ohdaesu said:
why go to all the trouble with the phone when you can just format on ur pc in one click??
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i thought that was obvious tbh, it works exactly the same both ways, just easier to not take the sd card out your phone, plug it into an adapter then into a card reader, u eva thought people might not have a card reader??
Format WP7 SD with photo camera
I had a very unconventional method to restore my SD card.
I put it in my Canon photo camera and did a low level format.
After this I could access it fully again through windows / android.
Hello everyone, I've recently installed Back to the Future [XBmod-Yuki] with kingston 8gb class 4. Everything was fine until i pressed 'reset ypur phone'. The phone started crashing on htc logo , so I decided to go back to wm 6.5. The problem is my sd card is no longer recognisable by anything. I tried SD formatter, hard disk low level format tool, killdisk, mitool partition, but with no luck
http://www.jayceooi.com/2011/09/19/how-to-unlock-revive-sd-card-after-install-windows-phone-7/
Or
Youtube type in search(video from 96edwy)......> htc hd2 how to format your sd card after wp7 use
thaks for the help, but both methods are not working, i've installed storage lock, but my sd card is no longer recognised by the phone itself. when i go to mass store, my pc is not finding anything either.
i have the exact same problem i also tried with the cab sender but had no luck if someone could please help us i actualy lost 2 8Gb sd cards
I had to get a new sd card for similar case.
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Check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1280293
all the solutions they gave in the forum didnt work for me, only this worked:
be carefull never do a reset from the about menu cuz this was the reason all my cards got locked <- im on this now for over a week, so believe me i tried everything, but its never useless to try it yourself because in my opinion you cant talk about a general state of cards or wp7 installation.
Reflash everything with your card inside your mobile, i mean start with windows 6.5 then the radio then magldr and then the native rom from yuki,
as it boots up wp7 you should get stuck on the htc screen because your sd is broken, now empty the sd bevor the phone has booted, and enter it in your sd reader, windows should now detect the card.
this only worked for one of my cards. and no its not depending on the brand because i have 2 sandisks and with the 8 gb it worked... with the 2gb it didnt...
but i still couldnt manage it to get to mango.
weeezel said:
all the solutions they gave in the forum didnt work for me, only this worked:
be carefull never do a reset from the about menu cuz this was the reason all my cards got locked <- im on this now for over a week, so believe me i tried everything, but its never useless to try it yourself because in my opinion you cant talk about a general state of cards or wp7 installation.
Reflash everything with your card inside your mobile, i mean start with windows 6.5 then the radio then magldr and then the native rom from yuki,
as it boots up wp7 you should get stuck on the htc screen because your sd is broken, now empty the sd bevor the phone has booted, and enter it in your sd reader, windows should now detect the card.
this only worked for one of my cards. and no its not depending on the brand because i have 2 sandisks and with the 8 gb it worked... with the 2gb it didnt...
but i still couldnt manage it to get to mango.
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I had troubles to install WP also, I just tried again today, and I have it now!
I installed it from cabs, following more or less this:
http://www.jayceooi.com/2011/09/16/how-to-install-windows-phone-7-5-mango-7720-on-htc-hd2-video/
I downloaded 7004-7392 and 7392-7720.
I installed in 3 update steps:
1st I installed the ROM,
then 1st update 7004-7392
then I installed all cabs to get to 7661
then I installed all to 7720
Had some troubles, but by keeping trying, I got it
Now I have my red mango!
Even if it is still bugging because of my sd card... Now It freezes 1 second after being loaded.
jinge said:
Now I have my red mango!
Even if it is still bugging because of my sd card... Now It freezes 1 second after being loaded.
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Had that same issue, just hard reset on magldr (power on, vol up and volume up again) and problem solved.
at the stage of 7.392 to 7403 it gets stuck with me cause of the sd card it wont update and then it gets into a boot loop, its definatly the boot when i need the sd to update, the boot kills my sd and it wont recognize the updates, any trick how to get over that boot which kills the card? any way to get the updates to the card without doing that reboot on wp7
I don't have a solution to the SD unlock, BUT I can tell you that people SAY that if you put the SD in a Nokia device and format it, it will be usable again. I gave myself a serious scare as I thought I had destroyed 2 SD cards, when not even WP7 recognized them, but I found out that if you do a Task 29, install radio 2.15, MAGLDR 1.13, enable 24mb nand and clear SD MBR, then install the ROM again, the phone can read the SD once more, thus meaning it is NOT DESTROYED and salvageable. Hope this was somewhat helpful to anyone else that thought like me he had destroyed his SD!
VERY IMPORTANT: WP7 stops recognizing the cards if you take them OUT of the device, so if you want to save yourself an hour of reflashing DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES pull your SD out. Otherwise you will need to reflash if you want the phone to see the SD again.
EDIT: Read my next post for the solution! Hope this helps
How to format a WP7 secured card
Hey guys,
I have flashed WP7 from initial builds to NODO to Mango so many times that I have lost count...
With NODO I have had success in formatting the card with my Nikon D90.
Cards started to be locked in Mango. The only solution is to format the card with a Nokia C6 or any Nokia with Symbian v8 or above.
I have tried every tool and every tool is dependent on the OS for initial recognition, and OS (Window 7) simply refuses to recognize the "wp7 secured" card.
I managed to salvage my SD card using a SD-adapter and the built-in SD card reader of my netbook... (Android, CWM, and 5 USB card readers didn't work) windows recognized the card as a 200MB card at first (?..)
used SD formatter to restore the original size to 4GB
0nova said:
Hey guys,
I have flashed WP7 from initial builds to NODO to Mango so many times that I have lost count...
With NODO I have had success in formatting the card with my Nikon D90.
Cards started to be locked in Mango. The only solution is to format the card with a Nokia C6 or any Nokia with Symbian v8 or above.
I have tried every tool and every tool is dependent on the OS for initial recognition, and OS (Window 7) simply refuses to recognize the "wp7 secured" card.
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Oh rly
Because I manaed to reformat my SD WITHOUT ANY CAMERAS OR NOKIAS
All you have to do is use the DEV_UNLOCKSTORAGE.cab and that will unlock your SD which can then be read by your PC and reformatted with SD Formatter 3.0!
HD2_(ab)User said:
Oh rly
Because I manaed to reformat my SD WITHOUT ANY CAMERAS OR NOKIAS
All you have to do is use the DEV_UNLOCKSTORAGE.cab and that will unlock your SD which can then be read by your PC and reformatted with SD Formatter 3.0!
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And again, inane 'solution' to the problem you don't understand.... Probably think we are all stupid here.
enigma1nz said:
And again, inane 'solution' to the problem you don't understand.... Probably think we are all stupid here.
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I think I realised your problem and I'm sorry. I had missed the part where he says the PHONE can't recognize the card either.
Same thing happened to me, but I just:
1.Ran task29
2.Installed 2.15 Radio
3.Installed magldr 1.13
4.Went into services (WITH MY SD CARD IN MY PHONE) and I picked Clear SD MBR (i don't know if that really helps, but just in case it does)
5.Enabled extra 24mb nand and I flashed the ROM
6.Then I updated to 7720
7.I installed DEV_STORAGELOCK.cab and unlocked my SD, i turned off my phone, I took my SD out and My computer could now read and Format it.
I am truly sorry if this is another "stupid" solution.
HD2_(ab)User said:
I think I realised your problem and I'm sorry. I had missed the part where he says the PHONE can't recognize the card either.
Same thing happened to me, but I just:
1.Ran task29
2.Installed 2.15 Radio
3.Installed magldr 1.13
4.Went into services (WITH MY SD CARD IN MY PHONE) and I picked Clear SD MBR (i don't know if that really helps, but just in case it does)
5.Enabled extra 24mb nand and I flashed the ROM
6.Then I updated to 7720
7.I installed DEV_STORAGELOCK.cab and unlocked my SD, i turned off my phone, I took my SD out and My computer could now read and Format it.
I am truly sorry if this is another "stupid" solution.
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So you installed WP7 that locks the card all the way to Mango, installed the DEV_STORAGELOCK to unlock it with a .cab in order to be formatted on your PC? Sure thing, stick with that method, it works...
enigma1nz said:
So you installed WP7 that locks the card all the way to Mango, installed the DEV_STORAGELOCK to unlock it with a .cab in order to be formatted on your PC? Sure thing, stick with that method, it works...
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Are you sarcastic? I mean really are you. Cause I SWEAR it works. The card may be locked, but builds 7004, 7392 can still see it just as well as 7720, but I think you need to be on 7720 in order to use DEV_STORAGELOCK.cab!
HD2_(ab)User said:
Are you sarcastic? I mean really are you. Cause I SWEAR it works. The card may be locked, but builds 7004, 7392 can still see it just as well as 7720, but I think you need to be on 7720 in order to use DEV_STORAGELOCK.cab!
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Nope, dev_storagelock works on the native build.
Still doesn't help me get my card unlocked though...
KrewsialNL said:
Nope, dev_storagelock works on the native build.
Still doesn't help me get my card unlocked though...
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Either I'm a lucky mother Effer that this works for me, or you guys do something entirely different. And does the SD brand have anything to say?
Hey guys im a noob and i tried flashing [ROM][24 LANGS] 02.04.12 HD2O© v2.00b5 WP7 TANGO 8773 FULLY UNLOCKED [ONLINE]
i put it usb flasher mode then clicked on the exe and everything went fine until the very end and it said some errors happened.
i then did a battery pull cuz i panicked and then i turned it on and it boots and everything but then it comes up with a screen saying memory card not working and i cant get it to go away
i did have a kingston card in it while i flashed the rom.
was that my problem?
Please help
some errors....
which errors???
did you format to FAT32 in computer before insert in HD2
did you set "UseLast24NAND" and "ClearSD MDR" in MAGLDR before flashing?
also many sdcards not supported by WP7....
dxdy said:
some errors....
which errors???
did you format to FAT32 in computer before insert in HD2
did you set "UseLast24NAND" and "ClearSD MDR" in MAGLDR before flashing?
also many sdcards not supported by WP7....
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i bought the phone and it was already on windows phone 7 all i did was plug it in and flash the new one
and i dont remember the errors because i closed the program but they were during the partition 4 and the progress bar was like - far from the end
if WP7 already installed and if this WP7 is Yuki (BTTF) ROM, card is locked and you must first unlock card to use it on others WP7 ROM's
dxdy said:
if WP7 already installed and if this WP7 is Yuki (BTTF) ROM, card is locked and you must first unlock card to use it on others WP7 ROM's
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the guy said it was on the 1st Windows Phone 7 rom available for US Devices if that helps
i figured out what my issue was everyone.
for some reason there was an error in the flashing process which i talked about that let the phone boot normally but it said the sd card was damaged
so what i did to fix it was all i did was put it back in usb mode and i flashed it again this time it was successful now it works great =]
i was scared ****less for awhile lol
put sdcard in PC card reader and check... if not readable, is locked...
dxdy said:
put sdcard in PC card reader and check... if not readable, is locked...
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I figured it out thanks
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Hello..
I'm preparing this friend's phone for Android installation (used to run W 6.5).. I upgraded the SPL to HSPL 2.08, and installed MAGLDR... all of that while the SD Card inside the phone. now the card is not recognizable.. I tried choosing USB MassSTG through MAGLDR, I got nothing.. I tried connecting the card to the computer directly, same thing.. no disk shows in computer or disk manager, and when I try to refresh, it just keeps searching forever.
I installed CWM after that, and nothing new. I have both Windows sync and HTC sync installed on my PC.
Anyone had this problem before? Anyone ever did these steps while the card was in the phone?
I read that WP7 locks the SD card and you can use it only by inserting it into the phone and connecting the phone.. is that also the case with W 6.5? could the card be simply locked? the owner wasn't much of a help since he can't remember ever taking the card out of the phone.
Any help would be much appreciated.
hunted22 said:
I read that WP7 locks the SD card and you can use it only by inserting it into the phone and connecting the phone.. is that also the case with W 6.5?
could the card be simply locked?
the owner wasn't much of a help since he can't remember ever taking the card out of the phone.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Since you said any help is appreciated, then I'll just answer the latter question.
No, Windows Mobile doesn't lock SD cards. And never use mass storage of magldr, it can corrupt (large) files.
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Marvlesz said:
Since you said any help is appreciated, then I'll just answer the latter question.
No, Windows Mobile doesn't lock SD cards. And never use mass storage of magldr, it can corrupt (large) files.
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Thank you for your response.. I do appreciate it.. it looks like magldr has corrupted the whole card instead of just one file
I hope there is a way to save the card out there..