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Before the battery dies I feel like it drains alot of battery was wondering whats the most it can stay on for.Im starting to think 2 hours.
It's much more than 2 hours...I remember reading in a few threads people have gotten 7-8 hours of display time. If your phone is dying in 2 hours of display time there is something seriously wrong with it. 2 hours probably brings me to 75%
7-8 hours with the screen on the entire time I dunno thats crazy I wish it lasted that long im gonna test it soon as i get a full charge
Yeah, my impression is that 4-5 hours of actual screen use time is average. It's the standby times that really matter, in terms of variation in batt life.
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I agree 4-5 hours on auto brightness is probably the average, depending on what you're doing, obviously. I've hit 10+ hours with the screen on while using the Kindle app with white on black and minimum brightness.
I usually get around 2 hours max at 25% brightness...
You guys must be doing something wrong - like something wrong with your clock. I can play Angry Birds for more than 2hrs. Obviously, that's screen on, plus significant CPU/GPU usage.
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If you're only getting 2 hrs, there's something wrong with your phone.
I needed to drain my battery completely last week so I cranked the brightness all the way, turned on GPS and 3G, set it to never sleep and set Angry Birds running and it took well over 2 hours to drain completely, and that was from 80% charged.
I got 3 hours with farm story open entire time I let the phone sit 10 percent left lowest brightness I did everything else to save battery but when it comes to display I'm at a lose any ideas
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Btw I'm using stock ji6 rooted
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Just for some reference,
I have 50% battery now,
72% Is display and its time on 1h42m
Sounds normal isn't it?
Though I don't really like it
I was looking at system panel farm story was using 100% cpu the time it was on maybe I'll try with angery birds and see what happens 3 hours tho is bad id be happy with 5 at least
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So does anyone have any idea how to prolong the amount of battery used while the display is on? I think someone suggested clearing the battery cache but I'm not sure how to do that...
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rexrbgh said:
So does anyone have any idea how to prolong the amount of battery used while the display is on? I think someone suggested clearing the battery cache but I'm not sure how to do that...
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"Reconditioning" your battery will not make it last longer. At all. It will EVENTUALLY (after several complete charge cycles) make your reading of the battery level more accurate across the whole discharge cycle. Wiping battery stats is, for the most part, a placebo. The only time you should wipe your battery stats is if you flash to a drastically different ROM/kernel or if you get a new battery.
If you want to get less drain from the screen itself your only options are:
1) low brightness
2) avoid the color white. A black pixel on a SAMOLED is literally off, a white pixel consumes the most power possible and it's a sliding scale in between.
I was browsing for about 2 hours and battery dropped to 70%. Brightness is adjusted 25% or less though.
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"Reconditioning" your battery will not make it last longer. At all. It will EVENTUALLY (after several complete charge cycles) make your reading of the battery level more accurate across the whole discharge cycle. Wiping battery stats is, for the most part, a placebo. The only time you should wipe your battery stats is if you flash to a drastically different ROM/kernel or if you get a new battery.
If you want to get less drain from the screen itself your only options are:
1) low brightness
2) avoid the color white. A black pixel on a SAMOLED is literally off, a white pixel consumes the most power possible and it's a sliding scale in between.
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Did it anyways. Oh well...
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I just want to know what I can do to improve my battery on CM7 nightly 32. I'm at 21 hours now and almost dead. Yet I see people get stuff like 2 days and 10 hours... I have tasker and the only profile I have is when the screen goes off it turns mobile data off (not sure If it works so I also use apndroid). I NEVER use wifi, bluetooth, or high brightness. I do however have gps on so in case I lose my phone is lost or stolen I can track it. So there's no way I'm disabling that. I have tried juice defender but figured since it can't effectively disable data for 2.3.3 I saw no point in the app. Any tips?
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21 hours on moderate use is great battery life. 12 hours is usually the measuring stick for smartphones, less is bad, greater is good.
Don't know who you saw getting two days plus, but they are either not touching their phone or have an extended battery.
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Best way to extend battery life is to get an extended or high capacity battery. I just got the Mugen Power pack, not the chunky one, and im in the process of breaking it in.
On my stock battery i was getting about 17hrs of moderate use. Almost no talk but alot of texting, engadget and youtube mostly on wifi with gps always on. That might give you an idea, plus, there are countless battery related threads on here.
Will post back in afew days after my Mugen has cycled afew times.
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I have 4 stock replacement batterys and never plug my phone in to the charger. When my phone is at about 5% i just take one out and pop the next one in and charge them in the wall... I know its not the answer you want but I never have a problem with battery life lol
I would agree that 21 hours is great battery life on this phone. I can get a week of battery life on my phone if I put it in airplane mode and stick it in my desk drawer =P
Not sure how big of an impact the tasker profile has. Unless your screen is off for long periods of time I would think that it might harm the battery life because every time you touch the device, it has to 'search' and connect to the tower again.
You can try running the phone at the stock CPU speed to see if that has an improvement on your battery life. I currently run the same 1017/245 as you with a screen off profile set at 245/245.
For me, as long as I can make it through a day's use, the battery life is fine. With moderate use I can go about 15-18 hours and heavy use I'm at around 12. The car charger in those cases is a life saver.
Bottom line is, battery life really depends on your usage habits. Those people getting days out of their phones likely aren't using them very much...
well i have setcpu set at 806 max and 245 min. screen off is at 245/245 and on powersave governor. other then that its on ondemand. i also have profile set to reduce the CPU based on battery. I have it set to <101% its at 806/245 , <41% its at 768/245 and less then 25 is 368/245. i realize that these are low speed but i hardly ever get lag and i use it for everything, music, video, youtube, internet, twitter, facebook, xda , and a here and there gmail. i guess if im getting exceptional battery life... anyone want some tips?
I find the more variation I put into profiles on setcpu, the worse my battery life gets. Theory - it is constantly watching and making changes based on your CPU needs and battery. So I have mine set to 1113-1113 performance, 245-245 powersave screen off, 245-245 powersave 45degrees+ and for your mobile data, try just having a widget to turn it on and off as you need it. You probably don't need it on everytime you turn on your screen do you?
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The apndroid widget eventually gets out of sync with on/off with the data... I think its gingerbread. Most apps can't effectively turn the radio off. I hope they make one soon!
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I find the stock battery to be not that great. I bought the Chichi batteries way back in October (when they were still considered cheap) and theyve been great. I havent really done any new tests since October, but back then (before I had a data plan) I was getting atleast a day and more (from 100% to dead) with moderate usage.
I'd look for a high capacity battery, though they seem to be expensive now.
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The apndroid widget eventually gets out of sync with on/off with the data... I think its gingerbread. Most apps can't effectively turn the radio off. I hope they make one soon!
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The power bar widget that comes with cm7 works perfect for me. Turns onoff Wi-Fi/apn/GPS/brightness/airplanemode
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I just tested out my battery the other day. I got a day and 13 hours and I was at 19 percent. Wifi is a big battery killer, and brightness is too.
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Ill post a battery success story...sounds nerdy lol. And i live at my own home with my own family lol.
My mothers g2 is rooted and running cm7 nightly 29 or 30, I installed it last week. I asked her today for the first time how the battery was after a week. She is using an aftermarket 1800mah battery, wifi only at home, she was almost at 32 hours and had 39% battery left!!!!
Not sure of all settings but i put it on 1113mhz, on demand with min 368, autobacklight, wifi only at home, bluetooth is always connected and on. Talk is about 70% of her usage overall. 4 gmail accounts. I did not install set cpu at all. I even stopped it on my phone because it didnt help me one bit.
Not too shabby. I was at 57% with some texting but a lot of gps usage for latitude and wifi always on even when not at home.
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here is what i get out of a day (battery consumption for specific tasks are mentioned in percentages measured using juiceplotter)
wifi on constantly
display set to 24% brightness
background sync enabled (google, weather 6hrs, whatsapp and facebook once a day)
45 min video (rockplayer no h/w decoding) 15%
1 hr browsing+chat 15%
30 min calls 6%
20 min music+chat 5%
20 min general usage 5%
1 hr flash streaming 15%
24 hrs standby 24% (@ 1% for every hr of standby)
15% battery remaining after 24 hrs i.e. low battery warning.
i disabled the use wireless network option under locations and always on mobile data
and get much better battery life, also i use wifi constantly when available (which is 90% of the time), it is much better for battery life than using 3g or gprs/edge.
pretty amazing battery life IMO i am very happy.
So i have cycled my Mugen 1800mA battery acouple times. on average, i'm able to get about 27hrs of heavy use. Here are some settings as a baseline:
Always on Data
Wifi always on
Auto brightness
1GHz clock speed
massive amounts of text use
massive amounts of screen on time
will report back in afew days time after some more cycles.
On stock my battery use would indicate display as the most used item under battery use.
On CM, however, cell standby and cell idle I think takes up 43 and 40 percent respectively while display only takes up 5 percent... is this normal? I thought on a highly efficient system, display would usually be the most taxing power draw item.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
P.s. big ups to toast and the CM team for making it happen!
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Same here. Battery lasted longer on sense roms for me
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On the hero, sometimes going into and out of airplane mode would kill the ol' TWOS (time without signal) bug.
I will try the airplane mode trick on tomorrows charge and report back!
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On stock my battery use would indicate display as the most used item under battery use.
On CM, however, cell standby and cell idle I think takes up 43 and 40 percent respectively while display only takes up 5 percent.
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Similar situation here, though mine shows display at 15%. I seem to have similar overall battery life as I did on stock though.
For the most part, unless you never turn your screen on, display should be number one
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I see the same thing as the OP, however I find that my battery life is improved in CM7. I am running Nightly 35 right now, but it was pretty much the same in RC4.1 as well.
Still testing but looks the same... phone idle and cell signal take up the most but display is now 10%.
On stock I got 48 hours off a charge if I stuck to wifi places. It would be 24 hours in and id have something like 56percent left.
On cm I'm 8 hours into this experiment and have 44 percent left.
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I've also noticed my battery life isnt near as much as it was with a Sense rom. I looked today after reading this post and realised it said I was 59% time without signal when I havnt dropped service once. I wonder why that is... Hopefully they get this figured out as I really liked how CM6 gave my Hero more battery life over stock not the opposite.
My cell standby is right at the top with 37% but my time without a signal is 0%
Ok day two of testing coming to an end... I tried the suggestion of turning on airplane mode this morning then off to see if it made a difference.
Off the charger at 8am
At 15% 10:28 pm
Cell stand by 32%
Phone idle 25%
Wifi fall in the middle here somewhere
Display 5%
Still not the kind of batterylife I got on stock. I just goto school and home these days pretty much same routine everyday and constantly on wifi.
I'm gonna try to set the clockspeed down from default of 1ghz in cm to 800 to mimick stock tomorrow and see if that makes a difference. Then maybe try a new kernal like x99 later on in the week.
Will report back!
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Ok day two of testing coming to an end... I tried the suggestion of turning on airplane mode this morning then off to see if it made a difference.
Off the charger at 8am
At 15% 10:28 pm
Cell stand by 32%
Phone idle 25%
Wifi fall in the middle here somewhere
Display 5%
Still not the kind of batterylife I got on stock. I just goto school and home these days pretty much same routine everyday and constantly on wifi.
I'm gonna try to set the clockspeed down from default of 1ghz in cm to 800 to mimick stock tomorrow and see if that makes a difference. Then maybe try a new kernal like x99 later on in the week.
Will report back!
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I'm getting better battery life, by quite a bit. But I just noticed I've been running at 800MHz under the "conservative" governor, so that explains part of it
how's the responsiveness on the conservative govener? Any lockscreen lags or anything?
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how's the responsiveness on the conservative govener? Any lockscreen lags or anything?
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I haven't noticed much lag if any. Except occasionally when opening some apps, not enough that it ever really bothers me.
I switched it to run at 1209 MHz, and I can just about watch the battery percentage drop, so there's a definite difference there
hey there
basically, last night i:
1)wiped battery stats
2)discharged till phone shuts off
3)turned phone on again so it turns off again
4)went to sleep with it charging
5)woke up 9 hours later, on 100%
so if its fully charged, battery ETA is only giving it 7 hours and 44 minutes estimated time, WITHOUT WIFI, GPS OR MOBILE DATA, AND 25% BRIGHTNESS USING 'BRIGHTNESS PROFILES' APP. isnt this like.... rubbish? this is my setup
stock battery
cyanogenmod 7.0.3 w/ Eugene's Smartass overclock kernel V9
*******Setcpu profiles: default 245/1228 smartass
Screen Off 192/368 conservative (100 priority)
Temp >38.5C 245/806 ondemand (priority 80)
Charging 368/1459 ondemand (priority 78)
battery <10% 245/368 ondemand (priority 71)
battery 15% 245/768 ondemand (priority 60)*********
ADW launcher w/honeycomb theme
-no widgets!-
i dont want to buy one of those bulky batteries, as it wont fit in my school blazer. the question is, how do i extend my battery?
Thanks
Sounds like a duff battery. I get about 20 hours with everything on on stock rom.
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oh okay thanks, where could i buy a decent battery, adding no bulk but not too expensive?
I'm wondering the same thing... the Desire Z only comes with a 1300mAh battery... My previous phone had a more powerfull battery (2100mAh) and that was an older model WM6 smartphone (which was rubbish on power savings) and it would outlast the desire Z... Even after two years of extensive use, the old phone's battery is better then this phones brand new battery
I've been unable to find any official HTC batteries for the Desire Z which pack more juice...
At the OP. What is your signal strength like? Mine is rubbish at work as I work in a converted barn and that makes a big difference to the battery life.
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at home i ALWAYS have 3/4 bars out of 4
btw i am also using JuiceDefender, if that would make a difference :L...
since the OP, ive been on facebook for about 30-40 mins, already 82% battery.....
Have a look through the accessories section. Lots of threads about replacement batteries.
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I am in the process of 'breaking in' a new 1800 MuganPower battery. Fits perfectly with no mods needed.
It should take a few more charges etc to settle down, so things should theoretically improve.
I pulled the plug off charge 6.5 hours ago.
I have it set to use wifi when at home, and 3g for the phone connection (I have a 3G femtocell at home).
When I leave my home area, it switches off 3g and wifi and drops to 2g.
I have made a couple of 2 minute calls, checked my emails and twitter, and was out of the house for say 1.5 hours earlier.
I have had a couple of texts to which i replied.
I am on 95% charge now, and pretty pleased with that.
I've got the same mugen battery, and get through a full day easily no matter what I do. Screen full bright, wifi always on, some internet, games, gps.... etc. Only 7 hours of battery to me sounds terrible.
since my last post, i havent touched the phone at all, and its got 66% charge -__- i seriously need a better battery, may buy the mugen, would you say they are worth it?
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since my last post, i havent touched the phone at all, and its got 66% charge -__- i seriously need a better battery, may buy the mugen, would you say they are worth it?
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Have you made sure there are no apps or services that are using to much?
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Are you using the Google News and Weather widget? I still don't know why, but it was murdering my battery. Soon as I removed the widget, battery life shot back up.
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nope, no widgets except the built in analogue clock.
the battery usage is used by mobile standby, wifi, display etc. no apps....
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nope, no widgets except the built in analogue clock.
the battery usage is used by mobile standby, wifi, display etc. no apps....
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What percentage per section(standby, display) is being used?
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mobile standby 33%
wifi 28%
phone idle 28%
display 5%
im surprised its been 10h 15m and im still on 58%
the battery seems okay when not touching the phone, as i have only checked facebook for 2 minutes, and sent around 10 texts (been playing football)
looks like imma turn off wifi when not using it from now!
When I first got my Desire Z when it first came out I was pretty disappointed in the battery life. I tried programs like juice defender and minimized every possible battery sucking option I could find. I could maybe get 12 hours of use out of it so I bought a 1800mAh MuganPower battery which gave me maybe 15 hours instead. Pretty poor I thought but what more could I do?
A couple of months ago I finally did a factory reset after encountering a lot of frustrating little bugs, some of which had been around since the phone was new. Since then not only has my phone worked a lot better and faster, but battery life is MUCH improved. My phone now consistently lasts 24 - 30 hours with the same usage or more than I was using it before. So obviously buggy software can make a huge impact on battery life and it's not something you are going to be able to easily discern as to what program(s) are causing the problem.
Hmmm im not sure then..
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Okay, played a bit of speedx 3D, heavy texting and facebook/gochat, still on 31%. Battery seems ok, still going to invest in a better one though, as using the phone for games or internet heavily drains the battery, whereas standby seems to be quite good, but need to turn off wifi. I will see how it fairs tomorrow, and post a picture.
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28% for wifi seems really high. I always have wifi on and it only takes up 6%.
After so many threads about battery issues I decided to take a plunge and try battery drain. Problem is that I have extended battery and I went from 100 to 1 percent in probably 5 hours but I'm currently at 1% and running with screen "always on" and playing YouTube vidoes in HD and yet it's not going anywhere from 1%. It's been like that for 2 hours now with screen on and youttube playing. Any better ways to drain it?
try tether on too and have a computer use it as wifi router
When I turn the display brightness to 100% it drains my battery crazy fast.
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Fastest way is to simply play some of the more hardware intensive games. I find that about 2-3 hours of PSX does the trick.
pandora lol
I'd just watch lots of...uhhh...nevermind.
Turn on gps, wifi, bluetooth, stream music at 100% brightness. Make sure the speaker is being used.
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maybe the phone the phone isn't really reading properly your non stock extended battery? Might not be a rom issue?
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After so many threads about battery issues I decided to take a plunge and try battery drain. Problem is that I have extended battery and I went from 100 to 1 percent in probably 5 hours but I'm currently at 1% and running with screen "always on" and playing YouTube vidoes in HD and yet it's not going anywhere from 1%. It's been like that for 2 hours now with screen on and youttube playing. Any better ways to drain it?
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Start tethering, turn brightness up, start watching HD porn... viola! Battery will be dead in no time.
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maybe the phone the phone isn't really reading properly your non stock extended battery? Might not be a rom issue?
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I have 2 extended batteries from different vendors and both of them showing this issue.
Angry Birds?
Or turn on GPS and driving navigation - mine will drain the battery faster than it can charge with gps/navigation running.
Netflix with with background tasks. Max brightness. All of that fun stuff.
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I downloaded a program to drain my gf's xperiax8.. It was almost fully charged(99%).
Try battery discharging on market.
It says a couble of staff, but only vibration is working. And makes difference.
I opened music gps wifi also.
It drained in 3-4 hours ang regular drain is 3 days with light use, and customizations..
Edit: also with setcpu I set the MIN frequency same as max(and max is OC'ed)
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battery refresh in the market seems to work pretty good..