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Are the virtuous ROMs dead ? should we switch to Taboonay ?
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1. ALL the 4 virtuous ROMs are stuck at their versions for the past few days since 19th July
2. http://www.virtuousrom.com/ update from 22nd July states that UNITY project is on hold.
EDIT 2: People are saying "this thread should not clutter Dev threads".... well, please read the bolded part above. Asking Qs in generic area about Dev status of ROMs would be inappropriate.
EDIT 3: I think too many folks took this negatively. Changed topic from "[Q] Are the virtuous ROMs dead ? should we switch to Taboonay ?" to "[Q] What is the status of virtuous ROMs ? UNITY kernel ?". Hope that clarifies that this thread is not to denigrate any developer.
rshetye said:
Are the virtuous ROMs dead ? should we switch to Taboonay ?
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There will be a new Super ROM out any day, call the "SuperHootchieCoochie ROM". Wait for it, cuz when it hits, it's gonna make ALL other ROMS obsolete!
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lol guess you are one of the spoilt ones as no updates for a few days everyone panics. they are not dead but i do think if there are no major updates from the sources then nothing more to add i am afraid. what i would like to see is kernel updates for the actual virtuous roms available. its not secret i love virtuous galaxy but thats stuck on unity v7 while some have v8/9 etc. mdj has said that galaxy will be updated when updated firmware is released. i am not a flashaholic like some as once i have a stable offering i am happy however i do like to have the latest available. i am currently trying out thor galaxy v1 to see what that offers as its a fusion of galaxy and asus goodness. i have stayed away from official acer 3.1 mods ad acer driers are not the best. saying that virtuous picasso 1.10 was electric
kjy2010 said:
There will be a new Super ROM out any day, call the "SuperHootchieCoochie ROM". Wait for it, cuz when it hits, it's gonna make ALL other ROMS obsolete!
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Whats this? Do tell...
MJ-12 said:
Whats this? Do tell...
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If you don't know about SHC rom then you're not worth it.
On a serious note... There is no need to flash every single day. If the rom is bugfree and/or there are no new sources then there's no reason to update it.
So chill back and wait for SuperHootchieCoochie ROM.
Do us a favor and ask such questions in the general area, keep this clean for development ...
+1 not only a rom oesnot need to be updated every day but cooks also have a life
Finally definitively not the good place to ask the question...
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CarpeNoctem said:
+1 not only a rom oesnot need to be updated every day but cooks also have a life
Finally definitively not the good place to ask the question...
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Not sure about that. A bit of a grey area This is asking about development of a specific rom. Surely its only the devs in the dev section who will be able to answer this. Its not a tip for users, a theme or an app question he is asking. Chill abit with the 'this is not for this section'.
Anyway when are we getting GT 3.2
I tend to agree with the topic starter. Although I know the developer does a great job, having 4 or 5 different roms to support, makes things confusing, not only for the developer, but also for his followers.
They wonder, what rom should i take, why he switches from Acer to Asus to Galaxy to Xoom and then hops from one rom to another. It makes me think the developer also doesnt know what he wants. Shall i use the asus core or perhaps the acer core, and if that choice is made, he hops back to another core.....
Also, if developing that many different ROM's, what you end up with is a less polished result as when you stick to one dev. direction, which is - in my eyes all to clear as m-deejay's roms still have problems with random power off, wifi problems, and some more, while i do know roms with other kernels, which dont have those problems.
So instead of showing us how many different developments the developer can keep up with for 30-40%, i think he should stick to 1 or 2, and make those 2 100%, or as close as possible to a 100%.
Just my 2 cents......
virtuous alive. moderators please close this thread
How alive is virtual picasso?
I believe Virtuous hoochiecoochie can be alive, but applies the same to the other treads, i really doubt that, as still the wifi problems, the random power offs, random screen-freezes are still as bad (or good, depending on how much you mind) as several versions before.......
Virtuous roms are very unstable, id move on if I were you.
MOD: Please dont close this thread.
Cheers!
CheopsChefren said:
I tend to agree with the topic starter. Although I know the developer does a great job, having 4 or 5 different roms to support, makes things confusing, not only for the developer, but also for his followers.
They wonder, what rom should i take, why he switches from Acer to Asus to Galaxy to Xoom and then hops from one rom to another. It makes me think the developer also doesnt know what he wants. Shall i use the asus core or perhaps the acer core, and if that choice is made, he hops back to another core.....
Also, if developing that many different ROM's, what you end up with is a less polished result as when you stick to one dev. direction, which is - in my eyes all to clear as m-deejay's roms still have problems with random power off, wifi problems, and some more, while i do know roms with other kernels, which dont have those problems.
So instead of showing us how many different developments the developer can keep up with for 30-40%, i think he should stick to 1 or 2, and make those 2 100%, or as close as possible to a 100%.
Just my 2 cents......
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As far as virtuous galaxy goes random reboots are a thing of the past since unity v2. From v3 onwards the kernels have been good. However unity v7 in VG 1.0.5 seems to have reverted back to old ways instead of going fwd. Its a shame thor wont release his kernel sources as this would greatly enhance the custom roms we have on here. I do agree that having so many ports can tend to confuse but from my hd2 days mdj works that way!
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virtuous alive. moderators please close this thread
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And 1 for closing this thread as this cant be constructive. Where would this acer forum be without devs like mdj? We have more choice than most of the other tablet owners on here. We have the chefs enhancing the stock option and we have mdj providing us with flavours from deifferent devices. That cant be bad can it? If the virtuous roms are too buggy then we all have the choice to stay clear. However there are many that prefer the custom options and can live with the bugs. We have choice in here not just from stock optimisations but custom mods from various devices. Thats must be a good. What we dont want is people starting to get on the chef and he leaves xda like most of the exp chefs all over xda are doing!
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Close This thread!
For example galaxy is more or less perfect, 3 small issues to fix, but what else should be updatet. So not much to do for mdj.
And no need to flash a new rom every day, I think. Don't change a running system.
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chuchikuchi rom ?
kjy2010 said:
There will be a new Super ROM out any day, call the "SuperHootchieCoochie ROM". Wait for it, cuz when it hits, it's gonna make ALL other ROMS obsolete!
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eh i want the super hootchikuchi rom jejeje XD XD lol
and now in serious, i want the next rom over xoom 3.2, and now i use the taboonay version but i want a remake over xoom
Close This thread! please¡¡
Peter.
MJ-12 said:
Whats this? Do tell...
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There will be a small price you have to pay for it, approximately 1000,000 pesos. But it's worth it bro! It even comes with a hot secretary that will type for you........"wait for it"!
another 1 for closing
Case in point:
I bought both the Iconia and Transformer and had a tough time deciding which to open and keep. What made me choose the Iconia was the dev support in comparison. Lets realize without dev support our tabs, phones, etc. Wouldn't be functional or as fun!
If the dev of the rom says he's still developing, then case closed.
kjy2010 said:
There will be a small price you have to pay for it, approximately 1000,000 pesos. But it's worth it bro! It even comes with a hot secretary that will type for you........"wait for it"!
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Emm, blonde or brunette flavour? Or is she modable, she can dye her hair according to taste
+1 for open +1 for mdj +1 for devs + 1 for VG 3.2 +1 for shc
MJ-12 said:
Emm, blonde or brunette flavour? Or is she modable, she can dye her hair according to taste
+1 for open +1 for mdj +1 for devs + 1 for VG 3.2 +1 for shc
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and +1 for u to
she depends on DEVs skills
What is your favorite rom a500/501 users? Pros, Cons, features you have, features you dont have. Just wondering what everyone else is using.
edit: If i left any out on the poll let me know
ajdrausal said:
What is your favorite rom a500/501 users? Pros, Cons, features you have, features you dont have. Just wondering what everyone else is using.
edit: If i left any out on the poll let me know
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Golly gee there haven't been enough of these threads lately.
Since you didn't have the best ROM on your poll, I had to come in here and type it out.
The Root Tooty Fresh and Fruity ROM of course!
what about the virtuous roms like virtuous galaxy or picasso, but they havent been updated in forever
Thor, but that's not on the list.
I personally liked THOR, but there were a few things left out since its not Acer stock ROM (such as hardware screen rotation lock).
I'm using lightspeed now and I would have to say I like it the most because it removed every bit of bloat the stock Acer had.
sKgbn5TN
Cactus42 said:
Thor, but that's not on the list.
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NoUseToRush said:
sKgbn5TN
+1
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+2 for Thor. I have been running it for over a month now and it is quite fast and stable.
Virtuous XooM anyone? smoothest 3.2 rom ive seen so far.
gh123man said:
Virtuous XooM anyone? smoothest 3.2 rom ive seen so far.
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I agree. I have I'm still on it even though it has no updates. It runs great and fixed all the issues I had with the tablet.
Thor V12.
Btw. I don't spend much time over here so this may be a dopey question but... why doesn't Thor post on xda?
Wait let me guess...
Mods pissed him off
Trolls pissed him off
Or he's a premaddona?
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Thor +1
no more random reboot ever
chefdave12118 said:
Thor V12.
Btw. I don't spend much time over here so this may be a dopey question but... why doesn't Thor post on xda?
Wait let me guess...
Mods pissed him off
Trolls pissed him off
Or he's a premaddona?
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Add the first two to the fact that XDA won't let him post his work here because he won't publish his source code (like Google didn't post theirs for 3.2), and you have the master recipe.
Thor V12 is seriously an awesome rom, loving everything about it.
SoHaunted said:
Thor V12 is seriously an awesome rom, loving everything about it.
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All the Thor comments seem to be positive, so I installed it, and it is pretty awesome!
Link for Thor
Rooted and installed my first rom yesterday. It was thor's. If i hadn't killed my battery in the process of installing/re-installing/re-re-installing (had issues w/ wifi and sd storage), i wouldn't have gotten any actual work done while on night shift. From what I did get to play around with, it was much snappier than stock, and allowed me to tether to my phone's data via bluetooth without any 3rd party apps. So not only did I become an instant fan of thor's, but I also might actually start watching Breaking Bad (streamed the first ep on netflix). lol
Hey guys, the source code for Android ICS (4.0) Has his the AOSP repo on git! I will work on getting one running right when I get home! Hope to get one released sometime this week!
Nice one mate. I'll look forward to it!
So will the honeycomb drivers work with ICS?
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ansonantonym said:
So will the honeycomb drivers work with ICS?
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They should.
DaAwesome1 said:
They should. It's not like the code language changed xD
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The kernel did though...from 2.6.35 -> 3.0.1. I bet that warrants new drivers, but I'm not Linux expert however.
Let me know if you need beta testers. l
Great news! Look forward to trying this over the weekend
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Hey guys, the source code for Android ICS (4.0) Has his the AOSP repo on git! I will work on getting one running right when I get home! Hope to get one released sometime this week!
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Sweet! Looking foward to it
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I'm willing to pay a bounty for a good quality Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) ROM for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (wifi / 7510, that is).
Galaxy Tab 10.1 - 7500 - PLEEEEAAASEEEE!!!!
radiobicho said:
Galaxy Tab 10.1 - 7500 - PLEEEEAAASEEEE!!!!
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I don't have one bro, I couldn't test it.
DaAwesome1 said:
I don't have one bro, I couldn't test it.
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I hope you have a pretty good setup to compile it man, I heard ICS is huuuge!
DaAwesome1 said:
I don't have one bro, I couldn't test it.
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What is the difference between 7500 and 7510? I know it's 3G. I mean the ROM. Is it a different kernel or drivers? I mean, could you do a ROM for both versions without having to make many changes?
stardust240781 said:
What is the difference between 7500 and 7510? I know it's 3G. I mean the ROM. Is it a different kernel or drivers? I mean, could you do a ROM for both versions without having to make many changes?
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I have flashed complite wifi only firmware on my 3g tab with Odin and it worked just fine, without any problems. 3g didn't work obviously. So if you don't need 3g then you probably can use a wifi only Rom.
poisike said:
I have flashed complite wifi only firmware on my 3g tab with Odin and it worked just fine, without any problems. 3g didn't work obviously. So if you don't need 3g then you probably can use a wifi only Rom.
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Thanks for your reply, but you didn't get my question I think. In other words : what has to be changed to convert a wifi ROM to a 3G ROM?
stardust240781 said:
Thanks for your reply, but you didn't get my question I think. In other words : what has to be changed to convert a wifi ROM to a 3G ROM?
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No idea, sorry.
That will be great you must have a very Powerful grunty pc
Heard It Takes hours to compile with multicore systems
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DaAwesome1 said:
Hey guys, the source code for Android ICS (4.0) Has his the AOSP repo on git! I will work on getting one running right when I get home! Hope to get one released sometime this week!
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nice!
do you own a 10.1. or a 10.1v ?
Galaxy Tab 10.1v - 7100 - PLEEEEAAASEEEE!!!!
Living up to your name, as usual, I see.
Here is a link to the ics update for the motorola xoom.
I have no idea if this is of any use to our developers but just thought it might in some way speed up the development of a fully working a500 ics custom rom.
http://android.clients.google.com/p...igned-tervigon-IML77-from-HTK75D.71a21bfe.zip
there are already roms (or at least a rom) working fully except for the camera. Unless it has acer camera files, i doubt the xoom code will help much.
nifterific said:
there are already roms (or at least a rom) working fully except for the camera. Unless it has acer camera files, i doubt the xoom code will help much.
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do you know the link?
Link you should know that the link can't be .. linked on xda
Google it mane
Ill help you put a lil bit
Ics, Thors roms and tegra owners
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Google Tegraowners
Am I the only one who would just love to see a community based repo for ICS on the Iconia, all GPL compliant?
I know it's not on Xda but just wanted to thank u guys for mentioning the ICS rom for the a500. It is by far the smoothest/fastest rom I've flashed on my a500. I'm just blown away at how great it runs. I could care less about the few things that need fixed. I'm now loving my Iconia. Thanks again.
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nifterific said:
there are already roms (or at least a rom) working fully except for the camera. Unless it has acer camera files, i doubt the xoom code will help much.
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Thors rom is Honeycomb 3.2 with a ICS theme tweaked
Sanien said:
Thors rom is Honeycomb 3.2 with a ICS theme tweaked
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No, he's got a ICS rom (Android 4.0). I'm running it right now and it's amazing. The best rom I've ever ran on my Iconia.
Yes he does have it I had 40 running for a bit but SPB shell doesn't run along with a handful of other apps I have bought ill wait till app developers get the kinks out..
He's been working on it since October I think so its pretty good Cam and vpn don't work as of now we need Acer to release alot to get everything the way it should be...
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Sanien said:
Thors rom is Honeycomb 3.2 with a ICS theme tweaked
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I didnt say anything about thor, but thanks for playing.
Sanien said:
Thors rom is Honeycomb 3.2 with a ICS theme tweaked
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This! i just woke up, but this made me laugh.
If someonegets this ICS ROM booting on the Iconia, i'll buy them a beer.
IcedCube said:
This! i just woke up, but this made me laugh.
If someonegets this ICS ROM booting on the Iconia, i'll buy them a beer.
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Then you owe me a beer or two.. I have installed and ran it a couple times.. But im back to my other Rom that everything works on... i have to have it ALL OR NOTHING... ..
IcedCube said:
This! i just woke up, but this made me laugh.
If someonegets this ICS ROM booting on the Iconia, i'll buy them a beer.
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And you owe me personally, about well, a lot of beers. And not just any beer mind you, but I like really expensive beer
In fact, if one would calculate 12 beers per day @.5L per beer since the time he got HW Accel working, No green screens, and 85% of all functions working, you owe me about 457 beers, give or take. But I'm not greedy. I'll settle for an even 400 x.5L.
The Pure ICS rom 4.x, runs damn good. Only 3 or 4 things left. Most people are using it as a daily driver.
But now, "Iced" cube, if you don't come through with your wager, on open terms as you set, Well... that would be considered "welching" on a bet.
Welp, there goes my weekly wage...
I did say "a beer", not "a few beers"
'tis all good, i'll drop some money in the tin.
That aside.... Time to flash the ROM, then!
What all does it take to make this run?
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What all does it take to make this run?
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Well..........you'll need.....
An Acer Iconia A500 and an SD card. :-D
I'm using it while I type this, it's the best my Iconia has ever been, I can live with no camera for now.....
I don't get this...
When I attempt to flash this ROM (the one in the first post) to my Iconia, I get the following error:
assert failed: file_grep_prop("/system/build.prop","ro.build.fingerprint") == "motorola/tervigon/wingray:3.2.1/HTK75D/190830:user/release_keys [...]"
Is there a work around?
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I don't get this...
When I attempt to flash this ROM (the one in the first post) to my Iconia, I get the following error:
assert failed: file_grep_prop("/system/build.prop","ro.build.fingerprint") == "motorola/tervigon/wingray:3.2.1/HTK75D/190830:user/release_keys [...]"
Is there a work around?
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Youre flashing a xoom rom? That might be the problem. There is an ics build mostly functional for our device a few pages in to the dev forum (where we are) or you can google thor and try his which afaik is just lacking camera and rotation lock.
Which ICS rom is everyone running?
I have seen a lot of talk lately with people comparing the ICS development ROM's to Task 14.. I have been swapping back and forth almost daily between AOKP #23 and Task 14 Slim so here are my thoughts..
1st of all both are awesome ROM's that offer plusses and minuses depending on what each individual wants and needs.. These observations are based on MY wants and needs so opinions will vary.. The fact that Task 14, a HC 3.2 ROM even gets mentioned / compared to an ICS ROM speaks volumes about how good it is..
Things I like about AOKP #23:
--Browser hardware acceleration
--No screenshot soft key (I loathe that thing)
--ROM Control
--Ability to set # of homescreens
--Swipe to dismiss
Things I like about Task 14:
--Rock solid and stable
--Camera works for video chat
--Just as fast as ICS in many areas and faster in some
--Mini widgets
--Several awesome themes available
The AOKP is actually pretty stable for the most part and Roman and team have done an awesome job on it but remember it's a beta so there is issues and bugs at the time of this posting.. Task 14 is super rock solid and its really only limited by HC 3.2..
I honestly can't decide which I like better.. They both ROCK! I guess that's why I change between them daily..
A few AOKP issues I have is with apps and the screen.. Words with friends is a good example of this.. Also, the screen gets a little glitchy at times when viewing online images.. Nothing major and by no means a put down on AOKP...
I have had zero issues on Task 14 that are not widespread HC 3.2 related..
If you can live without the camera and are willing to experience a few minor bugs here and there then the AOKP may be for you.. If however you want rock solid with zero bugs, a working camera and a system that is just as fast then Task 14 may be for you..
These are MY thoughts and comparison of 2 kick a$$ ROM's... Thoughts and replies are welcome but please don't turn this thread into a pi$$ing match...
You're just asking for a pissing match. I'll just watch... for now...:sly:
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I hope not since they are both awesome ROM's...
I've tried ics, very fast and smooth without touchwiz is a godsend. There is only one 3g ics rom so I have not tried romanb's yet. 3g is a big deal to me. Other thing with isc is no proper USB/mass storage support. It does not show all files that I've downloaded from net except whatever files I transferred to tab. Camera is another big issue for me, or lack of. Video does not work also from the rom I tried. Some apps on market not supported also so cant update. That's my summary of isc. HC3.2 on the other hand is improving. I have not tried Task as again no 3g. I'm a big fan of Alterbridge and his Overcome roms. Been using his rom since the original Tab. His latest 2.3.0 soup up with pershoot kernel is more than great for me. ISC is great but for my daily usage, its not ready yet.
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raqball said:
I hope not since they are both awesome ROM's...
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Just wait its coming bro...
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I do realize this is XDA but I guess I hope we all will act like adults and that this mini review will help anyone who can't choose between these 2 awesome ROM's.. Heck I'm having a hard time choosing.. The OP was made on Task 14 and this post is getting made on AOKP..
Good comparsion between the two. Personally, I use Task14 with b00sted's ICS theme. No ICS can compare to it right now, but once the camera issue is solved, ICS will be boss.
All us Task fans are hoping for a Task ICS ROM soon.
BTW, good thread OP.
A Task ICS ROM will be awesome once it comes.. I'm back on the AOKP for this morning as least..
I think we scared off the ones that would have made this a pissing match. Good.
BTW- nice OP.
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How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
donniezazen said:
How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
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He is comparing what is available today. The OP is well aware that ICS is in development but he is looking for a daily driver and was looking for others opinions on what we use.
Until ICS is official there is no way to do a 1 for 1 comparison.
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How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
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It's easy.. I use them both daily and figured my post might help others who are on the fence or not sure which to use..
Anything can be compared.. Pinto -v- Corvette or Blonde -v- Brunette ect....
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How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
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Easy you try them both and yes ics is alpha but thats what is available now and is the point of this thread. I came to the same conclusion as the OP after using both kang versions. the arguably incremental improvement in smoothness does not outweigh the full functionality goodness of galaxytask
Adding Visidon even gives me face unlock features and with camera ics+ i get the camera panorama functionality on my galaxy task rom
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ICS ........... almost stable!
donniezazen said:
How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
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Even though it is supposed to be alpha (since the Camera mainly does not work and there are also some minor bugs), it is quite stable for daily use as I myself use it and the best part is there are some amazing customisation options ..... literally mind blowing!
Thanks for the review. Still haven't custom rom'd it up yet.
When does the official ics come out?
i have found that the battery in the latest ICS kangs (not the one on XDA as that doesnt get updated! but the one on rootzwiki) is by far lots better than any HC.
So indeed for an alpha release ICS is looking very good compare to an already establish HC rom.
So I can only imagine how good ICS will be when SS releases it...hopefully in April..
bit OT interesting that there are no leaks yet from samfirmware!
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i have found that the battery in the latest ICS kangs (not the one on XDA as that doesnt get updated! but the one on rootzwiki)
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Romanbb is constantly updating the AOKP...
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Even though it is supposed to be alpha (since the Camera mainly does not work and there are also some minor bugs), it is quite stable for daily use as I myself use it and the best part is there are some amazing customisation options ..... literally mind blowing!
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mind blowing? seriously? did you just come from using my Packard bell 286 from the back of my closest? Just kidding. But mind blowing compared to what? stock?
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mind blowing? seriously? did you just come from using my Packard bell 286 from the back of my closest? Just kidding. But mind blowing compared to what? stock?
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Lol im with benzoman on this one...
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Benzoman said:
mind blowing? seriously? did you just come from using my Packard bell 286 from the back of my closest? Just kidding. But mind blowing compared to what? stock?
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Agree as well... ICS is not mind blowing and is only slightly snappier than Taks 14 in some areas..