First things first, if you flashed a previous version of Clockwork Recovery using Odin, FLASH BACK TO A STOCK KERNEL using this Odin package:
http://koush.tandtgaming.com//test/kernel-captivate-stock.tar.md5
This recovery is *very* safe to use. It does NOT flash your kernel; it is a completely uninvasive recovery method.
How it works: The recovery is packaged as an update.zip that you run from STOCK recovery. The update.zip unpacks Clockwork Recovery onto the ramdisk and restarts recovery. When you reboot, it reverts back to the original, unmodified, stock recovery. So, you will need to keep the recovery on the root of your SD card as an update.zip, and apply the zip every time you want to start Clockwork.
HOWEVER, if you use ROM Manager, all of the recovery installation and management instructions are done for you!
Installation instructions:
Download ROM Manager from the Market.
Flash Recovery.
Choose Captivate as your phone.
Accept the Superuser prompt.
Use ROM Manager to create a Backup.
On the very FIRST boot of Clockwork, you may need to manually select "reinstall packages" if Clockwork does not start. You should only ever have to do this once. It will be automatic from then on.
Watch the backup go!
That's it! This is completely painless and safe! There is no need for Odin anymore to replace the recovery or flash updates!
If you appreciate my work, please buy the Premium version of ROM Manager!
Sweet!
Nandroid'd!
Ah yeah....smooth like butter baby!!! Great work once again. Remember to donate people!!!
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Ah yeah....smooth like butter baby!!! Great work once again. Remember to donate people!!!
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For us Noobs, can we get more information on where and when to use this?
In reading everything I get some of it, but not all. This is my first hackable android phone, so I am still learning the lingo.
With other phones, I would just Flash a custom ROM or Flash Factory ROM back.
So how do ROM Manager and Clockwork recovery come into play?
Are there any tutorials - not that just give step by step (like above) but explain what is happening in each step or why?
alphadog00 said:
For us Noobs, can we get more information on where and when to use this?
In reading everything I get some of it, but not all. This is my first hackable android phone, so I am still learning the lingo.
With other phones, I would just Flash a custom ROM or Flash Factory ROM back.
So how do ROM Manager and Clockwork recovery come into play?
Are there any tutorials - not that just give step by step (like above) but explain what is happening in each step or why?
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The long and short of it is that you can now flash ROMs and make backups, and restore, without your computer.
The recovery is the tool that lets you do the backups and installations. ROM Manager is a convenient Android front end to the recovery.
After these steps you won't really have to "hack" your phone lol. Root your phone and download Rom Manager from the Android market...then have it flash a recovery (the first selection at the top) choose your device when prompted. Now after that finishes select "reboot into recovery" and as the above post states you may need to select "reinstall packages" (I did). Once that goes through, you'll see your new custom recovery menu. DO A NANDROID BACKUP of your current Rom as soon as you can....then (as long as your current rom isn't messed up, if its stock your fine) from there on out you can play as much as you want with very little risk of bricking your phone. There are others who can explain it better but your stuck with me till they chime in lol. Its a very easy process and nearly foolproof.
Koush said:
That's it! This is completely painless and safe! There is no need for Odin anymore to replace the recovery or flash updates!
If you appreciate my work, please buy the Premium version of ROM Manager!
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Awesome work! Premium version has been purchased by me. Thank you for the efforts.
Didn't work at first for me.
I installed Rom Manager (premium)
Installed CW recovery
Accepted SU
Tried to backup from within Rom Manager
I got a "Can't find update.zip" message.
When I rebooted and opened Rom Manager again, I got the "Error Occured" message, but it locked up on me and became unresponsive.
I uninstalled Rom Manager, rebooted, then reinstalled. I flashed CW recovery again, rebooted normally, opened rom manager again, and flashed CW recovery again.
After that I was able to use rom manager to reboot into recovery and backup.
Not sure if mine was just a fluke or what, but I figured I would share.
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Didn't work at first for me.
I installed Rom Manager (premium)
Installed CW recovery
Accepted SU
Tried to backup from within Rom Manager
I got a "Can't find update.zip" message.
When I rebooted and opened Rom Manager again, I got the "Error Occured" message, but it locked up on me and became unresponsive.
I uninstalled Rom Manager, rebooted, then reinstalled. I flashed CW recovery again, rebooted normally, opened rom manager again, and flashed CW recovery again.
After that I was able to use rom manager to reboot into recovery and backup.
Not sure if mine was just a fluke or what, but I figured I would share.
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Titanium Backup did that to me also the first time I ran it....I've had quite a few freezes and slowdowns when opening a program for the first time and waiting for SU to kick in.
It should also be noted that when you chose to partition the sdcard via the recovery menu, it partitions the internal sdcard and not the external.
Maybe that can be made an option? I would like to do my nandroid backup to my external card so I have it for safe keeping.
Everything else working as expected, I enabled advanced options and downloaded the superuser package (from Extras) just to test things. Havent experienced any problems other than the sdcard wipe (which wasnt totally unexpected).
If something should happen to your phone (brick, unrecoverable error, etc), how can we reboot into this custom recovery to reflash the nandroid backup? Can we get into it via adb (adb reboot recovery)?
Yeah, having an external SD Nandroid would be a great option. Not just for safekeeping, but for easy transfer in case of hardware loss or replacement.
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It should also be noted that when you chose to partition the sdcard via the recovery menu, it partitions the internal sdcard and not the external.
Maybe that can be made an option? I would like to do my nandroid backup to my external card so I have it for safe keeping.
Everything else working as expected, I enabled advanced options and downloaded the superuser package (from Extras) just to test things. Havent experienced any problems other than the sdcard wipe (which wasnt totally unexpected).
If something should happen to your phone (brick, unrecoverable error, etc), how can we reboot into this custom recovery to reflash the nandroid backup? Can we get into it via adb (adb reboot recovery)?
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I just did a reboot into recovery mode (the normal way, not with rom manager) and I had to click "reinstall packages" to get into the ClockworkMod recovery menu. So I'm not sure but I'm guessing (hoping) that its still available if we run into problems later.
Yep. It's pretty much how the Droid and N1 people are used to doing it anyway.
Clockwork is hella handy to manage and switch between working ROMs on the fly, as well as triggering recovery mode without keypress acrobatics, but having update.zip on the SD card to fall back on using the normal restore and the stock kernel is great in case of semi-bricking, and as this last week has shown us, the Galaxy phones are a bit prone to this.
THANK YOU!!! Been waiting for this since I got the phone, you are the man, I'll be adding to your Paypal account shortly!
Works like a charm. Thanks Koush!
Thank you. I am new to the scene, but looks like I chose the right hardware for hacking. The swift and easy way in which I have been able to advance my freedom on this gorgeous hardware makes me forget for a while that I am on AT&T, home of the fruit carrying zombie army.
Sweet! Can't wait to try this on my phone later tonight. Will deff be buying ROM Manager Pro
Thanks for this...I just bought the premium version...Since this is my first Android phone I have a question. I previously rooted my phone and uninstalled alll the AT&T bloatware, My question is about the backup I just made using this. If I restore the backup will it restore a rooted backup with out all the AT&T bloatware? Also when I ran the backup I go 2 messages at the end
No /sdcard/.andriod_secure found. Skipping backup of applications on external storage.. Is this normal?
No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext. Is this normal?
Also I now have 2 ROM Manager icon in my application screens. 1 will open the program and the other tells me that the aplication is not installed on my phone. I tried to delete that icon but it won't go away, Any ideas? FIXED..I rebooted my phone and the extra icon went away...
Thanks for all help and these great apps...
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Thanks for this...I just bought the premium version...Since this is my first Android phone I have a question. I previously rooted my phone and uninstalled alll the AT&T bloatware, My question is about the backup I just made using this. If I restore the backup will it restore a rooted backup with out all the AT&T bloatware? Also when I ran the backup I go 2 messages at the end
No /sdcard/.andriod_secure found. Skipping backup of applications on external storage.. Is this normal?
No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext. Is this normal?
Thanks for all help and these great apps...
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i got the same message, im assuming that you dont have an external sd card thats why it generated the message...
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i got the same message, im assuming that you dont have an external sd card thats why it generated the message...
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I do have one in my phone but there is nothing installed on it yet..maybe that's why..
I rooted my phone today. And everything was great.
I installed Clockwork. And applied CM 7.
I of course backed up my previous rom and everything was going smoothly until everything was completed.
My phone boot up as normal and then it got stuck in the CM logo.(now when I see a blue android skating I might puke)
So I tried to restore my previous rom but clockwork is defective. I selected 'backup and restore' and then nothing shows up in the screen..
Is there anything I can do to fix my phone?
I love this phone so much I really wanna fix it.
Any ideas?
since you are rooted, download the CM7 rom again (zip file) and put it on your SD card, then flash it from the recovery
Do all your flashing and backups from recovery, not from rom manager. You can confirm your backup exists by going to sdcard/clockworkmod/backups. If you did your original backup through rom manager, there's a good chance it's corrupted. Reflash cm7 from recovery if you can't restore your backup.
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I'm having basically the same problem. I just downloaded the cyanogenmod rom and put it on my sd card but I'm not sure how to flash it. Do i keep it as a zip and install it using the install update.zip thing? cause that gave me an error. Or do i extract it and put it in my backup folder and try to flash it using the restore option? Or is there some other option Im missing?
Thanks in advance
Ah ok I figured it out, I was trying to use the .zip for the a different model phone. I got it all working, thanks for the help guys!
I got a message from rom manager saying a new update is available, so I select to clear dalvik cache and back up rom and let it start. I go to check my machine a few hours later and the screen is green. I tried to boot into clockworkmod but it says it has no backups, what else can I do?
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anyone have any ideas b/c I'm about ready to put this thing in the trash. thanks
are you using the latest CWM?
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anyone have any ideas b/c I'm about ready to put this thing in the trash. thanks
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You can always start over...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949699
7.1 rc1 requires that you have the latest version of cwm. If you do not, then you encounter exactly what you have described. All is not lost! If you selected "backup rom" before you began, then boot back into cwm, restore your old rom, then update to the latest cwm (3.0.2.8, I believe) then update to rc1. If you do not have a backup then you will have to start over again but you will probably make backups in the future.
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You should have a bootable CWM sdcard for occasions like this.
Unless you have a nandroid I don't believe you can roll back to an earlier version...
Unzip this attached file and put the folder contents in the root of your CWM sdcard, re-wipe and then flash latest CM7.
I messed up my phone, erased everything on the sd card and at this point can only get into clockwork mod recovery. Try to flash a zip and says it is successful, then ends up back at clockworkmod recovery again. I am lost
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I messed up my phone, erased everything on the sd card and at this point can only get into clockwork mod recovery. Try to flash a zip and says it is successful, then ends up back at clockworkmod recovery again. I am lost
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Did you select partition SD card? If you did and didn't copy the contents to your PC then you are out of luck. I don't know whether there are tools that can recover from erased SD card. And which ROM you tried to flash? ICS or Gingerbread?
I was trying to flash ICS, and it said it was successful, but the same loop process back to clockwork mod. Messed with stuff I didnt know about and erased the entire sd card. Have been able to successfully flash CM, and in the process of reinstalling apps, then will back it all up again, and try to flash ics again. Wow, thought I was screwed there for while.
any tips for flashing ics, cause obviously i failed.
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I was trying to flash ICS, and it said it was successful, but the same loop process back to clockwork mod. Messed with stuff I didnt know about and erased the entire sd card. Have been able to successfully flash CM, and in the process of reinstalling apps, then will back it all up again, and try to flash ics again. Wow, thought I was screwed there for while.
any tips for flashing ics, cause obviously i failed.
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If you want to flash ICS ROM, you will need HBOOT blackrose and resize the partition. In addition, you will have to reformat your SD card to create a ext4 partition. You can't flash ICS ROM on stock partition. Just do some additional research and you will have Ice Cream Sandwich
Got it to work. Thanks for the help. I was scared for a while there that everything was lost.
I installed medroid. I see that you have medroid and texasice ICS. Can you have 2 roms on a phone?
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Got it to work. Thanks for the help. I was scared for a while there that everything was lost.
I installed medroid. I see that you have medroid and texasice ICS. Can you have 2 roms on a phone?
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I have 2 ROMs on my SD card but not 2 ROMs on the phone The Medroid v6.1 that I am using does have Texasice's work included that's why I listed Medroid and Texasice.
Blackrose and ICS are tough to get right without exact preparation. As taodan said, I would study the threads on Blackrose and ICS. I usually read the whole thread unless it has hundreds of pages. And, sometimes I still don't get it. These aren't that extensive yet. I don't know about cwm but amon_ra prompts you before you can do anything asking if you want to proceed. Cwm, when I used it didn't do that. One reason I changed.
If you get to the point where you can try Amon_Ra 2.2.1, I would give it a shot. Has been 100% bullet proof for me.
Also, I personally feel it is important to wipe System also as part of the wipe process.
Enjoy the roms--
already solved.. hehe
I have been running CM9 on NC SD card for a ,couple of days now. I have CM7.1 in emmc. I find CM9 to be more phone-ey but I haven't had time to truly get used to it. I attempted to backup via Rom Manager today, it dumped me into recovery, tried to install gapps, failed & shut down. Anyone have issues like this. Not stopping production, but I love my backups. Just can't get enough.
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I have been running CM9 on NC SD card for a ,couple of days now. I have CM7.1 in emmc. I find CM9 to be more phone-ey but I haven't had time to truly get used to it. I attempted to backup via Rom Manager today, it dumped me into recovery, tried to install gapps, failed & shut down. Anyone have issues like this. Not stopping production, but I love my backups. Just can't get enough.
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ROM Manager does not work with SD installs. If you try to use it, it tries to boot to CWM recovery to accomplish its tasks. You have no CWM recovery on an SD install. It is a special recovery script written by verygreen. That is what you see scrolling by after ROM Manager tells it to reboot.
But there is a way to put a custom CWM recovery as an alternate recovery on the SD. It has been specially modified to work with the SD installed partitions. It can back up your SD system for you. See my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22719241
Thanks, I appreciate the information. You are a pal.