Hello guys,
I have an HTC Tatto since last wednesday and now I've some doubts regarding this situations:
- It's possible to install games/applications in SD-Card instead of the main memory?
- When I have my Tatto conectted to the PC, it's possible to use the PC Internet connection in the Tatto?
When I enter the Market or another application, he connects always my operator connection, I would like to use my PC Internet connection.
Hope you can help me.
Thank You and an excellent year for all
1. No. (Not possible with official ROM - and there are no custom ROMs for Tattoo)
2. No solution I'm aware of.
Since the Tattoo is downgradeable am i able to use a costum ROM for the Hero???
You can flash different official ROM but not a custom one.
Android 2.1 is coming....
zeka1974 said:
Hello guys,
I have an HTC Tatto since last wednesday and now I've some doubts regarding this situations:
- It's possible to install games/applications in SD-Card instead of the main memory?
- When I have my Tatto conectted to the PC, it's possible to use the PC Internet connection in the Tatto?
When I enter the Market or another application, he connects always my operator connection, I would like to use my PC Internet connection.
Hope you can help me.
Thank You and an excellent year for all
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One of the main changes Android 2.1 is going to get in is allowing installation of apps on to the SD Card!!....going by the reports we should get official upgrades pretty soon!
zeka1974 said:
Hello guys,
I have an HTC Tatto since last wednesday and now I've some doubts regarding this situations:
- It's possible to install games/applications in SD-Card instead of the main memory?
- When I have my Tatto conectted to the PC, it's possible to use the PC Internet connection in the Tatto?
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-- Yes, though i am not sure how but you can change it some where ( sorry for being vague here)
---YES, i am doing it now. Using the wifi on my tattoo to use the net. Just connect it in "Mobile network sharing mode" when you connect it to the pc. Or go into yours apps list and use the "USB to PC" to change the connection type
Hi to all.
I need a help from you.
I have my HTC Shift and I need to make it works as phone and Gps.
I made an upgrade of S.O. from VISTA to Windows 7 Starter Edition
question are:
1. Can I upgrade a Rom Cooked with phone and Gps on it also now that I made first upgrade to Windows 7 Or I must get it back to Windows Vista to do this.
2. I'm Italian, can I wait for any Italian version Rom or it's just the same
3. I liberated my HTC (Modaco...) but when I use the usbtool I cannot attach to Vista, this is because I put first Windows 7?
4. Which is more suitable for me which ROM COOKED you suggest me to flash and for flash I must use utility downloaded from HTC : htcflash.exe ?
5. What is HardSPL, Do I need this for flashing a cooked rom?
Many many thanks for any possible answer to me.
I need to use it as a navigator with Garmin so I need to have GPS works and Phone also.
Sulilvan2002
sullivan2002 said:
Hi to all.
I need a help from you.
I have my HTC Shift and I need to make it works as phone and Gps.
I made an upgrade of S.O. from VISTA to Windows 7 Starter Edition
question are:
1. Can I upgrade a Rom Cooked with phone and Gps on it also now that I made first upgrade to Windows 7 Or I must get it back to Windows Vista to do this.
2. I'm Italian, can I wait for any Italian version Rom or it's just the same
3. I liberated my HTC (Modaco...) but when I use the usbtool I cannot attach to Vista, this is because I put first Windows 7?
4. Which is more suitable for me which ROM COOKED you suggest me to flash and for flash I must use utility downloaded from HTC : htcflash.exe ?
5. What is HardSPL, Do I need this for flashing a cooked rom?
Many many thanks for any possible answer to me.
I need to use it as a navigator with Garmin so I need to have GPS works and Phone also.
Sulilvan2002
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Hi sullivan2002!
Just trying to answer you questions as good as I can.
1. I guess so (I use XP), but you have to make sure by reading the appropriate threads. I think you have to leave the wifi and BT connections ON before abandoning Vista, but I also recall that there is a workaround that in case you did not do it.
2. It is up to you, but I think that if there is no Italian ROM version by now there are very little chances to have any from now on. There is no further development on this forum, the developers are just not interested in Shift any more. But I think that there is the original Italian ROM somewhere here, if that's enough for you.
3. I think so, but I have no experience with Win7. Did you install the Shift Control Center in Win7?
4. I use i00 which keeps the appearance of the initial HTC snapview screen and also is using reduced resources. But you might want to try several ROMs, once HardSPL is it fairly easy to replace the ROMs. I also enjoyed Thaihugo's Shift custom ROM "age of reason" and "age of beauty", which are very good. But there are also other very good ROMs that I didn't try. Anyway, look for the appropriate radio rom to match the selected coocked rom.
- Are you aware that there is no solution to use the phone with the headphones, but only with the speaker?
- Are you also aware that you can use the GPS only in a mixed way, the GPS module from the WinMobile side with the programs and maps installed on the Win7 side? This is because there is no access from the WinMobile side to the SD card to host the maps.
- Are you aware that there is no access from the WinMobile side to wifi or BT?
5. Definitely you have to use HardSPL. I did it before leaving Vista, but I am not sure it is compulsory to do it under Vista. But you have to do it, otherwise there are very good chances to brick the Shift.
Here are some hints, but you'll have to do some good reading on this forum:
How to flash ROM
(=copy/paste selections from this forum, not my merit)
"First of all you have to:
• liberate the Shift
• HardSPL the system.
Once you HardSPL this, then you have to
• download CustomRUU (CustomRUU.exe utility) from this Shift forum.
• Run CustomRUU as admin on Vista to load nbh file.
Make sure this RUU_Signed.nbh is in the same folder where CustomRUU.exe.
For beginers: first install HardSPL (read forum for the proper link) then the radio, then the rom.
To install radio or rom, use the main program and run as administrator
- for radio, it is "romupdateutility.exe"
- for rom, it's customruu.exe
The 1.58 radio was the original radio for the european shifts. It will make a hissing sound problem on a rom that was made for the 1.27 radios. "
Please do the appropriate readings of the forum, your Shift is at stake here.
Good luck!
thanks for answering
Hi
first of all thanks for answering me.
I would like to ask you
You said
Are you aware that there is no solution to use the phone with the headphones, but only with the speaker?
but ONLY PHONE or also Music, MP3, Films... Cause I would like to bring with me in my car and sometimes use the JACK PLUG to use with my car amplifier in order to hear music mp3... from that.
For me is just enough to install GARMIN or iGO 8 on windows 7 and run them. So maps are on hd. But I Can't understand why if I unlock Snapview... and I make work SD, I Can't use SD for putting maps and make Windows Mobile recognize it.
I understood I have to go back to VISTA and to to all I made for unlocking and after to reinstall Windows 7 starter edition (is more light and fast and I can sell it, htc better when I will not use it more in the future...)
for HardSPL sincerly I didn't understand how to use it. I thought after unlock (modaco... usbtool...) I could put exe file from htc to flash rom and use cooked rom i00 instead of htc new firmware but maybe I have to do somthing with HardSPL.
As I understood from you I can use Winmobile only for sms email and phone (if will works) and all things do better from Windows side.... gps....maps... music.... films...
Ok thanks dear friend. I see you are in Bucharest. I went in Bucharest some years ago. Am fost la Bucuresti in trecut si am vezut tot tara ta.
Ceau si o zi buna.
sullivan2002
sullivan2002 said:
Hi
first of all thanks for answering me.
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You are welcome!
sullivan2002 said:
Are you aware that there is no solution to use the phone with the headphones, but only with the speaker?
but ONLY PHONE or also Music, MP3, Films... Cause I would like to bring with me in my car and sometimes use the JACK PLUG to use with my car amplifier in order to hear music mp3... from that.
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Only phone, there were long debates and high hopes on the forum a few years ago in the time of the Shift Project.
About Music, MP3, Films... I never tried them on the wm side, I guess there is no problem with using the headphones or an external amplifier. BUT there is a reason stopping you to use large files because the SD card does not work on wm side, therefore you cannot access your files.
sullivan2002 said:
For me is just enough to install GARMIN or iGO 8 on windows 7 and run them. So maps are on hd. But I Can't understand why if I unlock Snapview... and I make work SD, I Can't use SD for putting maps and make Windows Mobile recognize it.
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The HTC Shift is an unfinished HTC job/crippled product on the winmob side, so it doesn't work with wifi, BT or SD card, only with the 3G modem. You can also sync wm via internal usb with the w7 side.
USB and Ethernet are accessible from outside only to the w7 part and not at all to the wm part.
sullivan2002 said:
I understood I have to go back to VISTA and to to all I made for unlocking and after to reinstall Windows 7 starter edition (is more light and fast and I can sell it, htc better when I will not use it more in the future...).
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Not necessarily, maybe you are lucky. Try first (re)installing the Shift Control Center (shagctrl) on the W7 part. Then start it from top-right button and see if you have access to wifi, BT, 3G, etc.
sullivan2002 said:
for HardSPL sincerly I didn't understand how to use it. I thought after unlock (modaco... usbtool...) I could put exe file from htc to flash rom and use cooked rom i00 instead of htc new firmware but maybe I have to do somthing with HardSPL.
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You have to HardSPL first before using a coocked rom, otherwise you will brick your Shift wm. You cannot just drop a new rom, you have to enter the bootloader mode first with HardSPL.
With "modaco" you are just liberating your Shift, i.e. unblocking the SnapVue and turning it into the true Windows Mobile 6.0 to allow cab installs. It was said that HTC has chosen this solution (SnapView) to avoid paying the WM license, but I would say also to hide the crippled functionality of the hardware. Be aware of the licence issue if you open the Windows Mobile 6.0, please do some more reading.
If you decide to go for a coocked rom, you have to enter and prepare the bootloader mode, which is initiated with ecshift.exe from W7 without WM running at all. I don't remember exactly from one year ago, but I think that hard-resetting the winmob side and reconnecting the two operating systems via usb are necessary steps preceeding HardSPL. SPL probably stands for "System Program Loader". To HardSPL you have to install the EnableRapi.cab file on winmob side and run ShiftHardSPLFinal.exe on Vista side, which will put the special Romupdateutility (RUU). To flash ROMs after you installed HardSPL you can use the original RUU or CustomRUU.
It is difficult to explain in further details, I am not an expert, but look on this forum for the thread called "Step by step guide to liberate > hard spl > flash Rom" and follow carefully all the instructions there. You have to do a lot of reading, pay good attention to the instructions and hints given by the seniors on this forum. If you have no experience then this is no half an hour job, including the readings you have to spent many hours for being successful in using a coocked rom. But it pays off.
sullivan2002 said:
As I understood from you I can use Winmobile only for sms email and phone (if will works) and all things do better from Windows side.... gps....maps... music.... films....
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Yes, but for GPS you have to go in a mixed way because of the reduced RAM of wm and of the SD card issues: use the built-in GPS antenna and receiver in the winmob side and install the program and the maps on W7 side; the two sides communicate through the internal usb bus, you have to trigger this connection with USB Tool. Similar for synchronizing the two parts.
GPS is working only with some coocked roms.
sullivan2002 said:
Ok thanks dear friend. I see you are in Bucharest. I went in Bucharest some years ago. Am fost la Bucuresti in trecut si am vezut tot tara ta.
Ceau si o zi buna. sullivan2002
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Nice to hear that, you are doing excellent in Romanian, congratulations. I hope that you enjoyed the country and the people. Was it as tourist or was it for business?
All the best!
HI my friend
At first for Tourist 1998.. and then business but only for 1 year.
I enjoyed always I came in your country, Romania is a very green and has a beautiful nature and countryside and people were more friendly than here in Italy. But for people, italian people is hard to understand this, due of bad facts and news from some who did mistakes here (more are zigans here who make troubles and they are similated to romanian). Of course here there are a lot of romanians and no all could have a suitable job cause also for crisis that hit our country. I went last year in Cluj for a week and also I took a car a white Dacia like the police car and I made about 1000km to go to Timisoara and return to cluj cause I pay about nothing for airplane.
You said:
Not necessarily, maybe you are lucky. Try first (re)installing the Shift Control Center (shagctrl) on the W7 part. Then start it from top-right button and see if you have access to wifi, BT, 3G, etc.
I can see shift Control Center (shagctrl) from Windows 7 side but what I can do? Why I'm lucky if I could see Shagctrl open? I can't still open SD card from WM also when I click on USBTOOL... Maybe I need to do this in order to put here in my SD, HardSpl, and New i00 rom to be cooked or no? is another way to flash it? Can I connect via Activesync and do that?
Ok I will look on the forum Step by step guide to liberate and try to do it today, but first I have to put on my WM a software called pimbackup.... and SMSexport in order to backup all my sms calls...
Thank
Sullivan
sullivan2002 said:
HI my friend
At first for Tourist 1998.. and then business but only for 1 year.......
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Hi Sullivan!
Nice to hear about your travels in Romania. Yes, the lanscape in beautiful and most of the people are very friendly. There are good Romanians and bad Romanians, just like worldwide there are good people and bad people.
But not many of the other people make the distinction or are willing to make it.
This is part of the show of this world......
sullivan2002 said:
I can see shift Control Center (shagctrl) from Windows 7 side but what I can do? Why I'm lucky if I could see Shagctrl open?
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No, you are lucky if, by opening the ShagControl, you can then activate wifi and BT. If not, try reinstalling the ShagControl, it shouldn't take long. If not, you have to look here on the forum for a work-around before going back to Vista.
Btw, did you erase completely the Vista recovery partition or is it still there and you can put Vista back in 10 minutes with the F3 thing?
If you have no other choice then going back to Vista, I suggest to make a back-up image of the W7 OS that you can restore later, it will save you a lot of time.
Regarding the W7 correct installation, I suggest to read the posts of RSargeant, they are very good and he speaks also about the communication part, if I recall correctly.
sullivan2002 said:
I can't still open SD card from WM also when I click on USBTOOL...
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That's correct. You did not get my message: you cannot open the SD card from the WinMob at all. Not even with a coocked rom.
This is a still open challenge on this forum. It appears theoretically possible, but nobody managed to do it, it is about both hardware and software (drivers and not only) changes.
sullivan2002 said:
Ok I will look on the forum Step by step guide to liberate and try to do it today, but first I have to put on my WM a software called pimbackup.... and SMSexport in order to backup all my sms calls...
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Yes, you are right, save all your personnal data first, it will completely washed out.
Good luck!
OK
Hi my friend.
Ok yesterday I made some changes to my HTC SHIFT X9500
I put hardspl, it was not so easy cause I made it 3 times, always system said me something like: I cannot open port.... and didn't want to start but at the end after 2 times and after I reset my device...it did fortunately.
I could put a cooked rom: i00
sincerly I'm not so satisfied 100% cause resolution...and other things but sure better from the previous
I wanted to put the 6.5 Rome for htc shift from CLIO 28/3/2010 but I cant download it:
http://romeos.monx.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56&Itemid=93
it's very nice but nothing to do, link is out, maybe I have to pay something to the author to download it.
Now I have inside i00 ROM Cooked but If I want to put another ROM Cooked or the original Italian Rom I have to put again HARDSPL or not? I used one time hardspl is it enough?
AFTER I upgrade Windows Visto to Windows 7 Starter Edition
I would like to ask you this:
After I upgrade to Windows 7 and I go to WM side, I cannot Attach it !!!
Attach to Vista and when I go to Windows 7 side I cannot see Pocket PC
How I can do? Is it possible or I have to remain with Vista? Oh Damn !
MY objective is to put GARMIN PC to my HTC SHIFT and use it as navigation and Mp3 device connected to my Car Radio Amplifier.
Ceau
Sullivan2002
sullivan2002 said:
Hi my friend.
Now I have inside i00 ROM Cooked but If I want to put another ROM Cooked or the original Italian Rom I have to put again HARDSPL or not? I used one time hardspl is it enough?
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Yes, once is enough, but only until loading again an original rom (I think)! May be we get also someone else on this forum to confirm it (that after loading the original rom is necessary to HardSPL again).
sullivan2002 said:
After I upgrade to Windows 7 and I go to WM side, I cannot Attach it !!!
Attach to Vista and when I go to Windows 7 side I cannot see Pocket PC
How I can do? Is it possible or I have to remain with Vista? Oh Damn !
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Hey, you're not stuck with Vista. Did you follow the recommended threads to install Win7? Watch carefully the drivers. Ah, I think you have to do the installation of Win7 in Vista compatibility mode and as administrator. Can't tell you more, I use XP, remember?
sullivan2002 said:
MY objective is to put GARMIN PC to my HTC SHIFT and use it as navigation and Mp3 device connected to my Car Radio Amplifier.
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You'll manage that, cannot be that difficult! Once the usb connection done, there should be no further problem.
Good luck!
ok
thanks
I understood about hardspl, I think so to put again if I want to put an original rom and after a cooked one.
For the rest. Now All is ok, also USBTOOL.. works I installed GPSBLUE... and GPSGATE in WM side and W7 side. In WM side I output on Activesync and in W7 side Input on Activesync.. but GARMIN Doesn't reconize GPS.
Ok about the drivers for W7, all went well about installing in Vista Compatibility mode and Administrator mode.
I have installed GARMIN 5...XXX.30 and can see only Bluetooth GPS or USB GPS, I think I must download somewhere a version like 5....xxx.70, I heard somewhere that was written that only this version can reconize GPS from Activesync or TCP/IP
Sullivan2002
sullivan2002 said:
ok
thanks
I understood about hardspl, I think so to put again if I want to put an original rom and after a cooked one.
For the rest. Now All is ok, also USBTOOL.. works I installed GPSBLUE... and GPSGATE in WM side and W7 side. In WM side I output on Activesync and in W7 side Input on Activesync.. but GARMIN Doesn't reconize GPS.
Ok about the drivers for W7, all went well about installing in Vista Compatibility mode and Administrator mode.
I have installed GARMIN 5...XXX.30 and can see only Bluetooth GPS or USB GPS, I think I must download somewhere a version like 5....xxx.70, I heard somewhere that was written that only this version can reconize GPS from Activesync or TCP/IP
Sullivan2002
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Hi Sullivan2002,
After checking with someone I know, on his HTC Shift there is the following software installed:
- On the WinMob side - PPC GPS Router 2.0.0.0 (HTC 2005) to enable the GPS port and HTC GPS Tool v1.2.1.26 to do the reception.
- On the W7 side there are Franson GPS Gate 2.6, Garmin Mobile PC v 5.00.70g and GMap Catcher.
Unfortunately I can't tell you more, I'm not using Shift with GPS. Maybe in the future.
Anyway, do a search on this forum, I recall there was a thread on Gramin.
Good luck!
ok thanks a lot
I will try
sullivan2002
I have Eu HD2 which has the Stock Desire Rom installed and all is working fine but I would like to install a new ROM like one of the many that use Sense 3.0 or android 2.3.5. I would also like to have my SD card partitioned so I actually have space to install apps on my phone
How do I go about doing this?
PS- Sorry for the super Noob question :-/
PPS - the ROM I had in mind was
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272440
please
read the stickies about CWM in the dev section
erm, any chance of a friendly link to get me started
vrchris said:
erm, any chance of a friendly link to get me started
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Here.
Thats great cheers! One small problem at the moment is I can't get my phone to sync with my PC now. I can get it to connect and I can view the files on it in Explorer but it won't "sync" - any ideas?
I have Windows 7 64bit
reinstall the drivers for activesync
That instruction about syncing / getting an active sync connection doesn't mean what it appears to mean. It simply means get a USB connection.
Put phone in bootloader, connect to USB, when word. "Serial" becomes "USB", that's an activesync connection and you can flash.
Try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185087
Hello
I know I will be repeating, but i have read many things and they just do not get into my thick head
so let me start
i bought a Samsung Focus from ebay.in (cell-force.in)
i got the phone. it had initial software (i think pre nodo) installed. i connected it to Zune to my PC, it took some time but it installed the latest release, i.e. 7720
now, when i further explored i found that it is not possible to install apps other than marketplace, also the great well known wifi bug
now I need your help
could someone please help me, what should I do to solve this
I want my device to be able to install any application I want
I want to connect to wifi (if solution for that ssid but available after rooting/unlocking/jailbreaking my focus)
Also, if I do jailbreaking, and when any update is available, would I be able to update normally using Zune?
I read about chevron, but I think they do not support 7.5 (7720) yet
So pleaser held me
By the way, I have WinXP in my laptop, not Win7
Waiting for your help friends
nipungupta7 said:
Hello
I know I will be repeating, but i have read many things and they just do not get into my thick head
so let me start
i bought a Samsung Focus from ebay.in (cell-force.in)
i got the phone. it had initial software (i think pre nodo) installed. i connected it to Zune to my PC, it took some time but it installed the latest release, i.e. 7720
now, when i further explored i found that it is not possible to install apps other than marketplace, also the great well known wifi bug
you can if you have unlock (developer or Chevron) and access to the XAP files. as for the wifi bug, I'm not sure what you mean
now I need your help
could someone please help me, what should I do to solve this
I want my device to be able to install any application I want
possible, some you have to buy
I want to connect to wifi (if solution for that ssid but available after rooting/unlocking/jailbreaking my focus)
this should work regardless of where you are in the world. if you can't connect to a wifi then your phone's hardware might have an issue.
Also, if I do jailbreaking, and when any update is available, would I be able to update normally using Zune?
yes
I read about chevron, but I think they do not support 7.5 (7720) yet
no, it only supports OS ver. 7004/7008. You will need to downgrade to 7004 from a rom here, unlock with chevron and install several tools to keep the unlock.
So pleaser held me
By the way, I have WinXP in my laptop, not Win7
Waiting for your help friends
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Now, the long bits. I sent this to someone else, but posting it here so others can read. I'll build a newb how-to shortly.
First, you need to be on 7004/7008 OS version (check in settings/about).
If your version is greater than that (739x, 7720) then you need to downgrade to 700x
If your rom is greater than that then read my mini-guide here
Now, you need to unlock, so read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857127
It has a video tutorial, so it should be easy.
Once unlocked, immediately install Samsung Tools from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924497 and run them.
Make sure "prevent relock" is checked (actually everything should be checked) and reset.
Then, install WP7 Root Tools from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1265321
Now, you should be able to sideload.
When you've done all these, you could update to 739x (NoDo) but not all the way to Mango (7720) since you need to do some more steps, which you can also read here (includes all steps):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1298351
thanks Sir
you are really very helpful
one last query, can i use winxp for all this. i have read people have trouble using winxp
if not, i will have to update to win7, which is not so easy
You're welcome, good luck!
Yes, you can use XP SP3.
just wanted to share this
i succesfully created apphub account with my university email id
and now i have interop unlocked, and can install 3rd party apps
but still cant connect to wifi (any wifi), even if broadcasting ssid is active, but i cant still connect to wifi
it is hard for me to believe that there is any hardware fault
well lets see, if MS fixes more bugs/adds features in the Nov 7 announcement
fingers crossed
nipungupta7 said:
just wanted to share this
i succesfully created apphub account with my university email id
and now i have interop unlocked, and can install 3rd party apps
but still cant connect to wifi (any wifi), even if broadcasting ssid is active, but i cant still connect to wifi
it is hard for me to believe that there is any hardware fault
well lets see, if MS fixes more bugs/adds features in the Nov 7 announcement
fingers crossed
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Glad to hear you're sorted, at least for most bits.
I sincerely doubt on Nov 7 they will announce anything else than generation 2 phones and some software. But we'll see.
For your WiFi issue I suggest you try this: install Connectify on a laptop with Windows 7 and share the wireless connection (or a PC with a wireless dongle but with Windows 7). If that doesn't work, your phone has a hardware fault. I know for sure this works with any WP7 phone I've tried.