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Success rooting Bravo

Rooted my Bravo today with SuperOneClick, worked like a charm, and appears to be permanent (after several reboots). This is my first smart phone, so it's all new to me, but so far, so good.

New to smartphones myself. I was heavy in motomodding years back but this is new game for me. I still have yet to find a good noob tutorial (step by step) for installing non-markets (in particular sirius-xm app). I have rooted with S1C, but now what? I know , that's what the search forum button is for. I've done that, but all I find are mid-level talk, and not idiot(me)speak. I'll keep watching for examples. Thanks.

Once I got the phone rooted, I was relying on the SideLoad Wonder Machine I found on another site (lets you install .apk files through a point-and-click interface), but it failed to install several apps. Then I found out how to do it using ADB from the command line and so far, everthing I've tried has installed with no problem. I'm only semi-geeky, and I can grok what I've had to thus far. I started out at the command line in DOS 3.3 back in 1988, so delving into this has not been too hard. Kinda fun, actually.

Tomorrow I'll post up step by step instructions on how I did it the noon way. You have to buy an app called Root Explorer that gives you access to write on system files

Thanks alot. I will say the SWM program has worked great so far for installing nonmarkets. Very easy to use. Now I just need to learn how to remove all the dead weight and I'll be happy. I will say that the Sirius-xm app is VERY CPU intensive, so multitasking is difficult. Hoping removing uneeded processes will relieve some of the strain.

I'd love to be able to get rid of some of the bloatware apps that came with this phone, if for no other reason than to make it more 'mine.' The stock browser, Latitude, Mobile Video, Media Share, Social Networking (ack!) all gotta go.

hi Scrondar, could you post some basic instructions and links to superoneclick? i just got a bravo and would like to root it.

I have rooted and enabled non market apps via super one click 1.5.5. To get rid of bloatware I downloaded bloat freezer from the market. It does not totally remove them from the phone but freezes them from running in the back ground or appearing in the app drawer. It's 1.99 in the market I had to email the dev because it forced closed when I opened it but he was awesome about getting me a working version. Worth every penny. I wanted to freeze it because it gives you the option to defrost if you want. I think I read somewhere if you delete the stock apps from the phone it keeps you from updating to 2.2 or any other version of android in the future (if one is ever released for this phone). Although I may be wrong about that.

Chagla- You can find the link to rooting instructions on this site, but in a nutshell, I downloaded and installed the Moto USB drivers on my Win7 64-bit desktop machine, enabled USB Debugging on the Bravo (Settings->Applications->Development->USB Debugging (checked), downloaded and ran One Click Root (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304), and that was it. Now, what I'd REALLY like to try is some custom ROMs on this phone, but as yet know of none that will safely work on it. Good luck!

why not z4root? did it not work?

cray1000 said:
why not z4root? did it not work?
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Never got the chance to try it. By the time I was ready to try rooting, that app was no longer available on the Market, and then I found Super One-Click, which worked on my first attempt.

[Q] New Droid user

Hi guys.
I'm totally new to Android OS but finding it pretty amiable so far. Got a Flipout that's rooted and installed the CEE firmware after getting pissed off with MotoBlur. I know my way around the phone pretty well. Installed the Wireless Tether app too which, I was amazed to discover, works beautifully. After using WM6.5 for so long I'm used to stuff not working for no good reason so that was a bit refreshing.
What I'm hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction for is...
1 - I'm rooted. Now what? What else can I do and why would I?
2 - My battery life sucks. Any apps I should be using to optimise this?
3 - I have SetCPU but tbh don't really know how to use it. Should I even bother?
A bit about my usage that might be relevant - I use Twitter and FB apps pretty frequently (update interval 30 mins+), have 3 email accounts (1 push 2 pull 30 mins interval). Hope this helps.
Cheers!

Essential Apps for new Droid User...
Hello Kaladan .
I too am new to the world of droids (well read regarding symbian hacks/mods). I am also a very quick learner. In the short time I have owned my Flipout (UK), I have learned that there are a few apps that are essential installations for rooted users.
1: "Titanium Backup" (paid if possible)...essential for nand backup (rom)..system backup, App installation & a whole host of other needed routines.
2: "BusyBox" standalone installation or install from within "Titanium Backup"
3: latest "Clockwork" recovery tools (search on here for more info on this).
4: Setcpu..? (no kernal modded for overclocking is available yet for the flipout so this fact alone makes installation of Setcpu questionable unless you want to underclock to save battery?).
5: Root Explorer..(very usefull for locating those elusive system files that we sometimes need to edit).
6: RSDlite..Stable, reliable & essential for full firmware rom flashing.
7: UniversalAndroot..(for future rooting projects)(renowned for stability & user friendliness).
I would consider all the above Apps to be essential as most of what you are gonna want to do on or with your Flipout will require the phone to be rooted & at least 1 or more of the listed Apps to be installed.
There is a whole world of Droid Apps at your disposal (Market & other sources) once your rooted & set up but we'll leave the fun of discovering some of them to you.
Hope this post has been of some help to you...
Stay Breezy & Be Lucky...
Peace...

Thanks dude, this is helpful.
I've managed to, er, procure Titanium Backup but it says I'm not rooted; havent' had time to mess on with it but I'll have a fiddle with it today. I actually used UniversalAndroot to root in the first place though.
Root Explorer and RSDlite I've got already too.
BusyBox seems to be a bit more complicated than I'd expected though, I'd seen some instructions somewhere about terminal emulators and Linux commands. I don't know much about that but I suppose I've gotta start somewhere
Edit: Nevermind, I figured it out. TiBackup works and BB installed
Thanks again matey.

How stable is rooted Nook?

Hi,
I'm looking toward a Nook Touch because it looks to have better specs-wise than the forthcoming Kindle Touch (though Amazon has better backend/store support), but how stable is it if rooted? I'm intrigued about the possibility for using ezPDF, simple browser, etc. on a rooted Nook, but was concerned about any stability issues.
Thanks.

Once you get it rooted, it can be very stable. I've run ezpdf on mine before to read books for school on.

Once rooted, it is quite stable. Ezpdf and opera mini are the apps for your needs, and they are very responsive - they seem to be made for the nook

after rooting it just works the same as before. If anything can brake it, it's those modified frameworks and other jars so I keep myself away of that. So basically one can easily install and uninstall applications on rooted nook and that's it. I do not use market, so everything comes in apk which are rather clean after being uninstalled. With my approach to not modify framework or use gapps or market, the latest update of nook software provided by BN went really smooth and after reboot I had all my apps working - beside from those needing root access.

In my experience, stability is fine, but my root was apparently incomplete (did not have write access to some folders) and I decided to revert back to stock for now by doing the L+R factory reset. I wouldn't let that discourage you, but you must, must, must backup your N2E if you're gonna try rooting. You never know when it'd come in handy.
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Does Dolphin Browser Mini work on rooted Nook, or is Opera the only 3rd party browser?
Also, is there a list somewhere of confirmed apps that work on a rooted Nook?
Thanks.

Bosun,
We have a list of working apps in this forum, under themes and apps in the main nook str menu.
Dolphin does work, but the address bar doesn't follow the link once you select it. But if you make a search in google and go to the link, or have the link in favorites, there is no problem.

[Q] KF Do over - back to 6.2

I fell into the 6.2.1 trap before I got Google Android Market installed. As a result of a partial market installation, I get periodic errors about the android market that pop up and need to be forced closed. I plan to do a factory reset and return the device to the store then buy a new one with the original OS. I need to know what to do so I can get it working with Android Market OTA.
Since the tablet has only 6+ GB to play with, I don't want to load it with too many hacking type tools or other OS. I am interested in seeing how Titanium Backup works but I don't know if I want to keep the KF permananently rooted. My main goal is to have Android Market available and working wirelessly. I am also trying do decide whether to block the the OTA update from Amazon permanently or just until I get my basic Google apps installed. So my plan is:
Get a new Kindle Fire with old OS
Leave WiFi off
Root with Super One Click
Install Google Android Market
Disable rerouting to Amazon Market
Am I right assuming that once installed, Google Android Market will continue to function once Amazon updates me to the latest version?
I also want to make sure that I have Google Mail and Google Maps and I don't know if 6.2.1 unrooted prevents installing those. I like the ability of the 6.2.1 to get rid of junk on the carousel and the scrolling speed seems a little better now. Of course videos are playable with unrooted KF.
Am I missing any steps or are there other recommendations?

You should be able to install Google maps and Gmail onto a regular 6.2.1 KF without any problems.
I don't think there's a known method to block the update while keeping full online functionality.
The best thing at the moment is to install a premodded 6.2.1 update with root access so you can install the Market Place etc.
In anycase if you return the unit for a new one there could (and probably will) be another update in a few weeks. So far there's been an update every couple of weeks since it came out. Each time you lose root and are back to square one.
I'm waiting for someone more clever than me to find a workaround to get root access back on a 6.2.1...
PS - 6GB is a lot of room for installing apps! I wouldn't worry about running out of room unless you're filling up your KF with downloaded media.
oh and PPS - Amazon updates can easily stop the market place from working. The 6.2.1 update has stopped mine from working (because I had it installed in /system/app which is one of the folders replaced in the last update.)

Got new 6.0 KF - Bootstrapping Catch 22
So I returned the 6.2.1 version and got a new one with 6.0 still installed. Now I find that I have no way of loading any apps with the stock unit. The directories that show up on the device through the USB connection are very limited. I copied the root explorer app to the documents directory but naturally it does not show up.
Without having a file explorer app, I don't know how to proceed. If I turn on and register the Kindle, I am liable to get updated immediately. If I can just get to the Amazon store and get a file explorer app and then quickly turn off wireless I may luck out. Are there any other ways to get an app installed without having an app like root explorer or similar without having to first go to Amazon market?

6.2.1? I'm still on 6.2. What's the deal? Why did i not get the update?

Update - I was able to quickly register and bring in the root explorer app. I then turned off WiFi and found I was still at 6.0. Now to try to root it...

Things to do with a rooted fire tv!!

Are you someone who just got their Fire TV rooted and don't know exactly what you can do with it being rooted? Or maybe you haven't rooted yet because you are unsure of what you can do with it rooted? Well hopefully i can shed some light on this with a little guide on things to do, along with some tips and tricks.
First let me get started by saying never forget to make a backup of your Fire TV via TWRP before making changes or tweaks. This is not to freak you out or disparage its just good practice ii have learned in rooting devices. I will cover TWRP later.
One of the best things to come along in the rooting world of android is Xposed installer. In short Xposed is a framework apk that allows users to modify/ customize their devices. This is not done by Xposed Installer per say but the modules that you download with in Xposed installer. So i will show how to install it, how to use and modules that will be beneficial use for Fire TV fyi mouse is need to navigate Xposed.
Xposed installation​
1. We need to download the following BusyBox a program that most rooted apps are dependent on here Xposed Installer v3.1.5 here along with Xposed Framework x89 sdk22 arm64 here
2. Install BusyBox however you install side loaded apks. Open BusyBox and click the install button on bottom right. On SU prompt screen grant root access. As you should for root apps you install.
3. Install Xposed Installer, there is no need to open after install because without Xposed Framework installed it doesnt work.
4 Place the Xposed v89 zip onto Fire TV internal or external storage is your choice just remember where so you can point TWRP to it.
5 Reboot into TWRP recovery, choose install, point TWRP to the Xposed zip and on right side of options choose install zip. Let TWRP run its script when it says complete simply reboot and voila Xposed is installed. NOTE it is NORMAL for the first boot to take 10 min after Xposed is installed.
Xposed Tutorial and Modules​
Open Xposed installer on be careful screen prompt click box to don't show again and ok. The 3 line icon on top left is menu button. Module option is where you can see and activate modules you install. Download option is where we search for and install modules. After you download a module Fire TV will prompt you to install. Note modules wont work until activated and a reboot.
Modules i find beneficial and know are SAFE are the following​Boot Manager- this allows for you to choose what apps start on boot.
RootCloak- this is designed to hide root app detection. Im assuming it still will hide root but could be wrong worth shot right
Xposed Edge- this is the FUN one that allows a fair share customs tweaks. My fav is remapping of remote buttons ie home button goes to alternative launcher, double tap home opens netflix. Which is great for 3rd party remotes that have a lot of buttons. NOTE There is a pro version as well Note- whenever you make changes in edge you may have to reboot for changes to effect.
DISCLAIMER be careful some modules may cause problems like bootloop and worse so research before you install modules to see if they are compatible​
Other Apps​
These are apps recommended or useful for rooted devices and for Fire TV use​ADBLink-allows you connect PC t to Fire TV via adb can install apks, push/pull files, run adb shell.
Easy Fire Tools- Android app that connects to Fire TV via adb can install apps from your android device onto Fire TV, transfer files and other features.
Root Explorer- these apps allow you to manage files but also a way to install side loaded apps, find one that is root friendly so you can access system folders if ever needed.
AdBlocker- we all know why we want one for all my rooted phones always been partial to adaway.
Alternative Home Launcher- who does like Fire TV launcher, really Karen of course you would!
TV App Repo and APK Editor- For those who do use alternative launcher i mention these because TV App Repo allows you to make bookmarks into apks. APK Editor to change the icon and name of TVApp Repo apks because the names and icons are generic.
TWRP​
Finally the benefits and how to use TWRP. This allows users to make a backup images of device and ability to restore it when **** goes wrong. You can also do a factory reset.
Backup- after you choose backup from main screen choose select storage and choose storage then click swipe to backup. These can take a while to do seemed like 20 mins or so. Whatever storage you chose will be the default storage until you change it. Note- I have a backup image and its size is 4.5gb so id recommend you need some sort of external storage for these. If there is not enough space backup can not be performed.
Restore- performed same way as backup.
Factory Reset- Just wanted to mention don't forget if you do this and have a backup image on Fire TV internal storage you will lose it.
Hope this helps out​

@g422
Thanks for the write up!!!
To be honest, the benefits of rooting appear to be somewhat underwhelming, at least, for the Fire TV. Not a single killer feature/application ...
I do know that it is more convenient to have root than not, but appears to be in pretty subtle ways.
My main use is between SmartYouTubeTV, and Netflix. If I fumble through the Amazon launcher, I am there, and life is good!
Am I missing something?

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Am I missing something?
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Yes, you didn't read the OP He gives many examples of use for root, if those aren't valuable to you, then root isn't for you.

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Yes, you didn't read the OP He gives many examples of use for root, if those aren't valuable to you, then root isn't for you.
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Hmm, just for the record, pretty much every tablet or phone (except a couple of real cheap deals) I have in my household are rooted! So I do see good value in root on those devices.
It's just that I struggle with root utility on Fire TV devices. As in - "why bother?"
I see that the OP likes Xposed Edge for button remapping, so if that's your cup of tea, that's a killer feature to get root for. I myself religiously correct Chrome look on tablets using Xposed/App Settings (link), which very few others seem to care about. But I want to see more of these killer features for Fire TV! Suggestions?
Btw, I am not being adversarial or critical, just very curious. Which itch are people scratching with root on Fire TV???

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Hmm, just for the record, pretty much every tablet or phone (except a couple of real cheap deals) I have in my household are rooted! So I do see good value in root on those devices.
It's just that I struggle with root utility on Fire TV devices. As in - "why bother?"
I see that the OP likes Xposed Edge for button remapping, so if that's your cup of tea, that's a killer feature to get root for. I myself religiously correct Chrome look on tablets using Xposed/App Settings (link), which very few others seem to care about. But I want to see more of these killer features for Fire TV! Suggestions?
Btw, I am not being adversarial or critical, just very curious. Which itch are people scratching with root on Fire TV???
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I sort of see your point, but I think the root version of Mouse Toggle works, while the non-root doesn't. At least that's been my experience. Also, can you block updates without root?

I took no offense to your comments bibikalka. I am inclined to agree that there is a limit of what to do with rooted fire tv especially compared to a phone or tablet. I started this thread to give back to xda who has kept my multiple devices over years rooted. Thread was also done in hopes of getting ideas to do and/or sharing of apps that can be helpful especially now that rooting is allowed for the general masses just not those who were able to jump on board early.

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I sort of see your point, but I think the root version of Mouse Toggle works, while the non-root doesn't. At least that's been my experience. Also, can you block updates without root?
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I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.

#1 reason I root a fire TV box is so I can use large NTFS drives on the USB port.

Can someone point to me how to fix sd card write permissions. I tried xiinternalsd for xposed but when i open it goes to amazon home screen

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I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.

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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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yeah i just re read what ya posted i see what ya meant

Imho top reasons for it are Xposed Edge Pro, ad blocking via AdAway (if you use the browser) and finally, the updates issue. While unlikely, it's not impossible for Amazon to get crackin and stop the use of certain third-party apps (NIMH is a giveaway)
Edit: forgot one important one, "debloating" the OS, whether by blocking the startup or disabling packages you don't want/need to give more cpu and memory to apps you do
Without root access, it's Amazon's device; with root access, it's now your device.

g422 said:
I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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yeah i just re read what ya posted i see what ya meant
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For a while, updates could be blocked without root, but Amazon fixed that hole:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/disable-ota-fire-stick-t3667978
But! You want to block updates so you don't lose root, so it's a bit circular. If you don't have root, you don't care, and just update as per Amazon otas. Btw, I do have updates blocked on my fire sticks
Anyway, please keep the conversation going! We should develop a good set of must have features which are only available via root.

The main reason I root now is to debloat. Go as barebones as possible in order to improve performance. I kill all possible services that are absolutely unnecessary. I've removed Amazons GUI and use Appstarter. I just like a clean fast experience.

Thanks for this but u all do know u can connect to a PC wirelessly via adb without root. It's the only way I have ever added apps to my stick. Find your sticks individual ip. Open terminal on a pc, adb connect ipaddress. Then adb devices, a prompt will pop like on your phone asking to allow device or not. Click always or yes whatever. Then u do adb install draganddropwhateverapphere. Loads up in seconds depending on apk size. U can even use your phone if u have the adb platform tools magisk module installed on your phone. I install apps to my stick from my OnePlus 6t

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Thanks for this but u all do know u can connect to a PC wirelessly via adb without root. It's the only way I have ever added apps to my stick. Find your sticks individual ip. Open terminal on a pc, adb connect ipaddress. Then adb devices, a prompt will pop like on your phone asking to allow device or not. Click always or yes whatever. Then u do adb install draganddropwhateverapphere. Loads up in seconds depending on apk size. U can even use your phone if u have the adb platform tools magisk module installed on your phone. I install apps to my stick from my OnePlus 6t
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Ummm, or you know just use the Apps2Fire app lol. No magisk module or root needed. You're welcome.

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Ummm, or you know just use the Apps2Fire app lol. No magisk module or root needed. You're welcome.
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I am saying I never need root or anything to use adb and install apps wirelessly. I have done this for the past year with NO ROOT. Don't need it for sideloading apps. Adb connect ipaddress, then adb install dragdropapp from PC into terminal. No root or magisk needed. I always have a rooted phone and that's where the magisk module comes in. On a PC u can load them to a stick out of the box.

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I am saying I never need root or anything to use adb and install apps wirelessly. I have done this for the past year with NO ROOT. Don't need it for sideloading apps. Adb connect ipaddress, then adb install dragdropapp from PC into terminal. No root or magisk needed. I always have a rooted phone and that's where the magisk module comes in. On a PC u can load them to a stick out of the box.
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Yep, that's exactly what you said before. Not sure why you are repeating it.

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Yep, that's exactly what you said before. Not sure why you are repeating it.
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Cuz u aren't understanding. If u read your comments, then mine, you would see it seems u think I'm saying one would have to have root to use adb install. U do not.

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Cuz u aren't understanding. If u read your comments, then mine, you would see it seems u think I'm saying one would have to have root to use adb install. U do not.
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That is 100% incorrect. I see now you have a reading comprehension disability. I can't imagine how hard that must be for you and I empathize.
Obviously root is needed for magisk modules. I suggested an app to help all those without root.
Bless your heart.