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Making the Leap - Stock - > Cyanogen: Let's discuss

Hi Guys,
I've been with Android since truly day 1.
I lived with my G1 for a long time and together we endured lots of roms. Cyanogen is what most always ran on my G1. Finally, after all the bugs, slow downs and issues, I got a nexus 1 and kept it stock. It's been an amazingly unfrustrating experience and I truly fear any cooked roms.
I do however, have some gripes with stock android. One of the biggest is the lack of permissions controls in apps.
Today, I read that cyanogen is implementing permissions blocking at the app level on the nightly builds. I am VERY intrigued and want to give this a go.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...port-for-revoking-and-faking-app-permissions/
So to everyone, how stable is cyan compared to stock 2.3.4? Is it still the same old buggy, bloated, incomplete rom as it was, or have they been able to keep it light, stable and full of extra features?
Please let me and the other readers know!
Thanks!

DownloaderZ said:
Hi Guys,
I've been with Android since truly day 1.
I lived with my G1 for a long time and together we endured lots of roms. Cyanogen is what most always ran on my G1. Finally, after all the bugs, slow downs and issues, I got a nexus 1 and kept it stock. It's been an amazingly unfrustrating experience and I truly fear any cooked roms.
I do however, have some gripes with stock android. One of the biggest is the lack of permissions controls in apps.
Today, I read that cyanogen is implementing permissions blocking at the app level on the nightly builds. I am VERY intrigued and want to give this a go.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...port-for-revoking-and-faking-app-permissions/
So to everyone, how stable is cyan compared to stock 2.3.4? Is it still the same old buggy, bloated, incomplete rom as it was, or have they been able to keep it light, stable and full of extra features?
Please let me and the other readers know!
Thanks!
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I love it right now.. before it was bloated and totally incomplete and now they got it working pretty darn good you asked at a good time! but for some users.. still causing issues. For some like myself it is perfect right now absolutely no problems I took a while to stick with GB because of all the problems with CM7 I had an htc magic which was pretty similar to the dream and I understand most the problems you probably faced. I've tried a bajillion cooked rooms myself and ever since I moved to the nexus one I just stick with a few (I tried so many on the magic it was my first android and wasted so much time -_-) I would suggest you give this one a try it still has extra features but most of which I find useful

It makes it noticeably snappier and battery life is better. 99% win (wireless LAN reception is a bit worse). I went from stock 2.3.4 to CM7 and am kicking myself for not doing it 16 months ago lol. Maybe there were issues with cooked Roms earlier but the n1 is a mature platform and I haven't noticed any major issues with cyanogen 7.03, of course YMMV
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I have been running the nightlies for weeks and they have been very stable for me. I have not had any significant problems and really like using them. #85 put the permissions blocking in yesterday and I tried it with a few apps. Seems to work fine. I liked stock rom, but personally could not do without trackball wake and lots of other wonderful features in cm.

Once you go custom you wont ever go back to stock.
Make sure you understand how to flash a custom recovery and how to get to it first.

he said he had cm on his hero so he must now about custom roms..
i think it is currently very stable and good apart from the wonk issue.

CM7 Nightlies have been gold for me. Except couple bootloops. I'm on #83 now with data throttle removed. I love my Dinc
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I have been running CM7 since shortly after the official Froyo was released from Google. I had to send my phone back for the powerbutton and so I rooted it right before and tried out one of the CM6 nightlies. It was amazing. The features in every subsequent version have only built on the quality of CyanogenMod. I have been a nightly user ever since (although I only flash nightlies every week or so).
It has been extremely stable for me and I have converted a few friends (most recently a friend with the Desire HD) and they don't know how they dealt with the stock crap for so long.
So in short, give it a shot. Do a nandroid beforehand if you are worried, as then you can go right back if you don't like it.

You can only control the permissions on cm7 nightlies. That feature isn't available in the stable release I believe.
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cyanogen 7 starting at nightly #74 has introduced some new bug fixes which greatly improve standby battery life, so that now idle current with screen off is 3-4mA. its so good now, that you can leave your phone unplugged over night for 8 hours and only lose like 3% battery. and this is WITH wifi and email accounts turned on and syncing.
this makes the nexus one like a brand new phone and turned it into a proper normal device in the sense that you can now rely on superb battery life. you know that when you arent using it and the screen is off, when you come back to it you will have the same battery percentage as when you left it.
its a no brainer to use the nightly just because of this alone.

Ever since the 2.3.4, I've been happy with the battery life and fixes with the GPS. Currently my uptime is 190+ hours without the usual sluggish response that requires a restart.
Running CM7 I found more random issues from the call quality being distorted and random reboots, to other random bugs that I need something stable.
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i often go 550 hours between reboots on cyanogen.

who is using what??

what roms are you using are they beta's or stable.

Using Virus kingdom rom. Not completely stable, lockscreen issues.

currently using end of days v2

cmnightly 86 i think its better then the stable roms
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Warm-Z twopointtwo

im using gingerbread-evo deck 1.2o its beta on the 2.3.4 its running very smoothly for me

White Guala said:
currently using end of days v2
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is that out yet?

MikFroYo 4.62 - Odexed - Themed - Very Stable - Everything works.

Switch between Koni III and H.R. Giger, until Koni IV comes out.
Perfectly stable and smooth.

Calkulin's EViO 3 v1.0 beta 2. Stock kernel, slightly metamorphed some stuff to appeal to my aesthetics.
Runs stable, no real issues that I'm aware of.

Back on stock to see what the official OTA brings.

Cm7 nightlie 81. Flawless on my EVO. Everything works and no bugs as of yet! Found the stable releases to not be so stable on my EVO.
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JRE77 said:
Cm7 nightlie 81. Flawless on my EVO. Everything works and no bugs as of yet! Found the stable releases to not be so stable on my EVO.
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I tried CM7 nightly 85 or 86 and right off the bat, it noticed a wifi problem that I read about. (Seems that there is a bug keeping a AES+TKIP WPA Wifi connection.)
When I see reports of ROMs working "smoothly," I wonder if that means every critical component is working smoothly, eg GPS, Wifi (WPA AES+TKIP), 4G, etc. Seems that people, not picking on the particular poster here, don't use some of the critical things that maybe broken or unstable on that ROM and report it as "smoothly working."
I'm using Vaelpak rc2, which if i'm not mistaken, is a 2.2 Nonsense ROM. Everything works great on this ROM AFAIK. I live in a 4G area, use GPS all the time, WPA Wifi, send MMS, and use the camera. (Camera still sucks compared to iPhone.)
I'm dying to know which 2.3.x ROMs, AOSP, Sense or Non-Sense have GPS, WiFi, 4G, camera, etc working perfectly.

Miui gingerbread, just the radio app but I don't use it anyway.

MIKoptodexed 4.62 ultra stable
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you can get the beta for eod 2 off his magnus' blog

HipKat said:
Switch between Koni III and H.R. Giger, until Koni IV comes out.
Perfectly stable and smooth.
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Did you change anything yet with the rom loving it . H.R giger

MisFits Speedy Port
No problems thus far. Only 2nd day with it.

dynamicpda said:
I tried CM7 nightly 85 or 86 and right off the bat, it noticed a wifi problem that I read about. (Seems that there is a bug keeping a AES+TKIP WPA Wifi connection.)
When I see reports of ROMs working "smoothly," I wonder if that means every critical component is working smoothly, eg GPS, Wifi (WPA AES+TKIP), 4G, etc. Seems that people, not picking on the particular poster here, don't use some of the critical things that maybe broken or unstable on that ROM and report it as "smoothly working."
I'm using Vaelpak rc2, which if i'm not mistaken, is a 2.2 Nonsense ROM. Everything works great on this ROM AFAIK. I live in a 4G area, use GPS all the time, WPA Wifi, send MMS, and use the camera. (Camera still sucks compared to iPhone.)
I'm dying to know which 2.3.x ROMs, AOSP, Sense or Non-Sense have GPS, WiFi, 4G, camera, etc working perfectly.
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Maybe I should have been more specific. When I say "flawless" I mean every aspect of the rom. Bluetooth, wifi,mms, 4g, gps and so on. Keep in mind mileage may vary from phone to phone and nightlie to nightlie! Granted on initial boot the camera was broke but after a fix permissions and reboot a week ago I haven't had a single problem minor or major.
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Dominus_Zeta from "Team Xron" rom. 2.3.3gb with sense. It has blend of 2.1 and 3.0 sense. O lockscreen. Very stable. Only issues for me is the screen brightness cannot be toggle.

Still a buggy phone!!

The Nexus S is quite possibly the best but most frustrating phone I've ever had. I love the hardware and the android OS. I still get random reboots, sometimes sms notifications never show up, and sometimes when I get a phone call the phone becomes unresponsive.
I've been using the latest NSCollab rom for several versions and have never over/under clocked. I clear the dalvik cache after every update and clear data/restore with titanium backup whenever necessary.
I'll feel like I've been doing everything correctly, yet I'm still left with a phone that gives me a lot of grief. What's the problem here? How can I fix this? This is extremely frustrating with no obvious solution.

I had a lot of problems with the nexus s... Now i have a galaxy sii, but i still have the nexus. Using the nscollab, i had a looooot of problems, now the phone are with the stock 2.3.4, in my tests, everything is fine. I will sell it now.
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I don't know what kernel that rom uses but that and settings on voltages make the whole difference in stability. Something like stock rom with stock kernel or cm7 with stock or netatchys kernel are always good choices and will give you stability.
Just IMHO
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mariosergio2112, how much do you expect to get from selling it?
I believe NSCollab is Cm7 with netarchy and the stock gingerbread launcher -- nothing crazy here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959282
NSCollab 1.0.35
Android : GB 2.3.4
System : CyanogenMod 7.1 [RC1] [CM Team]
Kernel : Netarchy CFS 1.3.4 [Netarchy]

Truth of the matter is that I've yet to come across a ROM that's rock solid. I've tried them all and always had either lots of random reboots, bootloops, or sluggishness.
I went back to stock last Thursday and it's been butter smooth since. No problems or anything of the sort.
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That's both good and bad news. Good news: there's a fix. Bad news: I really like some of CM7's features, but I guess it must go.
I'll give the stock rom a shot I guess.

glasslung said:
That's both good and bad news. Good news: there's a fix. Bad news: I really like some of CM7's features, but I guess it must go.
I'll give the stock rom a shot I guess.
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The Oxygen ROM is very stable aswell.

i tried several roms, but after all i came back to stock, it is stable and fast.. I do miss many features from cm7, but i guess i can live without it.
currently i'm trying to find a kernel with a battery life as good as stock one... i really miss bln ...

All I'm saying look into your voltage settings. Each phone will work different and you have to play with adjusting them. It also takes some time and patience.
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No matter what rom I use I end up going back to stock. I don't even think the net kernel is good enough.

glasslung said:
mariosergio2112, how much do you expect to get from selling it?
I believe NSCollab is Cm7 with netarchy and the stock gingerbread launcher -- nothing crazy here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959282
NSCollab 1.0.35
Android : GB 2.3.4
System : CyanogenMod 7.1 [RC1] [CM Team]
Kernel : Netarchy CFS 1.3.4 [Netarchy]
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I will sell it in brazil, where i live, i think 1000 reais, i dont know yet.
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Vandam500 said:
Truth of the matter is that I've yet to come across a ROM that's rock solid. I've tried them all and always had either lots of random reboots, bootloops, or sluggishness.
I went back to stock last Thursday and it's been butter smooth since. No problems or anything of the sort.
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no ROM I've tried has ever compared to stock, especially 2.3.4, when it comes to stability.
I tried Many ROMs but all before 2.3.4 (end of April?) and none was able to run for more than a few days without some kind of reboot/bootloop etc.
2.3.4 has been running flawlessly ever since.
Current uptime is like 1100+ hrs and that too cause i had to remove battery to change SIM card.

Hi,
I have installed NSCollab 1.0.35 on a week and have not problems on my Nexus S.

To resume, i had some endless bootloop and a lot of reboot on long calls.
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My 2 cents:
I'm on NSCollab 1.0.34, Netharky 1.3.4, KB3, OV to 1.2 Ghz, UV with protonvoltage. Gingerbread 2.3.4
I find this combo much faster than the stock one, smooth and pretty stable. Actually I have some reboots when I stress a lot my device, but they are rare.
So I don't want to renounce to Cyanogen features as the stock rom was really slow IMHO and I will give a try to NSCollab 1.0.35 very soon!
No problems in answering, good radio performance, faster than light (quadrant score: 3600) !! I can survive with a couple of reboot in a week!!

Too much porn?
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Why don't you people stop confusing CM7 with a stable ROM? CyanogenMod and netarchy kernel are probably the most crappy android software that were ever made.
I suggest you use Oxygen ROM and Jame Bond kernel. No fancy quadrant benchmarks, stock ROM with basic functions like notification power control and text reflow in browser, zipaligned and all that stuff. Delete setcpu, delete juicedefender and other crappy so called battery savers, do not undervolt and do not touch the CPU frequency. Just let the ROM run like it is supposed to, don't fill it with all the bloatware you find on market that is said to increase performance or battery life, all they do is eating system resources.
I have yet to find a better combination like this for the nexus S, I am using the ROM since 3 days now without a single reboot/FC/freeze/bootloop. I am playing order and chaos MMO 2-3 hours and I can go through the full day without problems, the phone is responsive and simply works, no fancy sh*t.

Using the stock, all is fine..
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lvnatic said:
Why don't you people stop confusing CM7 with a stable ROM? CyanogenMod and netarchy kernel are probably the most crappy android software that were ever made.
I suggest you use Oxygen ROM and Jame Bond kernel. No fancy quadrant benchmarks, stock ROM with basic functions like notification power control and text reflow in browser, zipaligned and all that stuff. Delete setcpu, delete juicedefender and other crappy so called battery savers, do not undervolt and do not touch the CPU frequency. Just let the ROM run like it is supposed to, don't fill it with all the bloatware you find on market that is said to increase performance or battery life, all they do is eating system resources.
I have yet to find a better combination like this for the nexus S, I am using the ROM since 3 days now without a single reboot/FC/freeze/bootloop. I am playing order and chaos MMO 2-3 hours and I can go through the full day without problems, the phone is responsive and simply works, no fancy sh*t.
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How does oxygen rom compare to oxygen rom with james bond kernel? I installed the oxygen rom last night and have had no problems so far. Time will tell how it holds up in the long run.

lvnatic said:
Why don't you people stop confusing CM7 with a stable ROM? CyanogenMod and netarchy kernel are probably the most crappy android software that were ever made.
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Yeah... if it wasn't for that crap you would have **** for your ROM.
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[Q] CM7 vs. MIUI

As both CM7 and MIUI have really matured over the last weeks and samsung is still not able to get to develop a stable gingerbread version I think its time to have a deeper look into the alternatives. What do you think, what is the best solution for the sgs right now? please also post experiences, but really valuable I guess are only experiences with current CM7 or MIUI versions!
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Tobi

Samsung gingerbread is as stable, or more, than CM7/MIUI, meaning none is 100% stable, what is your problem...

Samsung roms are better for now

All of them has a special thing...

Now I am using Gelnet Miui rom and it is fantastic an also stable!
You should try it

cm7 and miui are both very fast, even with lagfix on samsung roms you can see minor lags but...
cm7 and miui have bugs that made me go back to samsung custom rom.
the camera does not work even regular picture looks bad sometimes, battery drain in cm7 is also worst than any bug samsung has, if the camera and the battery does not bother you so you can give it a try.
another reason i go back to samsung rom is the brightness change from the notification bar and the swype left for calls in contacts or logs (very usefull while you are driving).

st379 said:
cm7 and miui are both very fast, even with lagfix on samsung roms you can see minor lags but...
cm7 and miui have bugs that made me go back to samsung custom rom.
the camera does not work even regular picture looks bad sometimes, battery drain in cm7 is also worst than any bug samsung has, if the camera and the battery does not bother you so you can give it a try.
another reason i go back to samsung rom is the brightness change from the notification bar and the swype left for calls in contacts or logs (very usefull while you are driving).
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thanks, but may I ask, when you tried out CM7? Ive read, that bettery is now even better lightly than with Sams FW and apparently the camera issues have also been fixed, at least by GALNET...for the swyping contacts i suppose there are alternative contacts apks?
cheers

I've just joined CM7 and have had slightly better battery power and no camera issues at all. I'm really impressed with the whole package. I can't imagine going back to stock ROM. Everything is stable and fast.
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CM7 is very stable on my phone, better than last official ROM, so I keep it.

I installed both of them on my phone. CM7 had radio problem which didnt work (although there are CM7 radio patch which could be flashed). MIUI had a problem with getting network. Kept getting SOS signal only. Tried flashing 2-3 different MIUI roms and all of them had this problem of no network. Think since there are so many custom roms based on official firmware out there, it makes sense to install them over CM7/MIUI.

Glamsen said:
thanks, but may I ask, when you tried out CM7? Ive read, that bettery is now even better lightly than with Sams FW and apparently the camera issues have also been fixed, at least by GALNET...for the swyping contacts i suppose there are alternative contacts apks?
cheers
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are you serious? that sounds awesome, if someone could pls confirm that! the last time i tried miui/cm7 i could just survive the day with massive undervolting and custom kernels which was simply put inacceptable for daily use.. using the same voltage settings on stock roms give me more than 3 days, same usage pattern.

dbraaker said:
are you serious? that sounds awesome, if someone could pls confirm that! the last time i tried miui/cm7 i could just survive the day with massive undervolting and custom kernels which was simply put inacceptable for daily use.. using the same voltage settings on stock roms give me more than 3 days, same usage pattern.
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I am using CM7 and battery life has improved but dont expect more than 1 1/2 day,
If battery life is your major concern then stick to the one you are happy with

i don't like that my Android seems like an iPhone... no no.. Miui is not for me, it's just a copy (according to me, design is too similar...)

thank you for the pointless thread, which opens a discussion that leads nowhere!

It is similar to the iphone but just think of it as way more customizeable ; im on miui right now and i couldnt be any more satisyfied; lol its gotten so better that their going to make a miui phone... thas something
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iv been trying out nearly all roms around here
and i can say cm7 is by far the superior rom out there
BUT
besides all the people always telling battery gets better and this might even be the case but the batt is still VERY weak
no comparison to stock rom

I mount the CM7, but now I also had the MIUI, I think the CM7 is better, speed, performance and stability

I tried the latest cm7 nightly a couple weeks ago. It was interesting, but definitely wasnt as smooth and polished as jvq. It also crashed a couple of times. Went back to jvq which I'm happy with for now.
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please add darky on poll

I change rom every week and have found that the best battery is with stock miui from MIUIAndroid.com. However, I never turn on data until I need it. With this after 11 hours medium usage I was still on 80%!
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Favorite Jellybean ROMS

Which ROM do you feel works the best for your Vibrant? Of course this is a matter of opinion, which is exactly what I want to hear. I'm running CM 10.1.3 right now and enjoying it. At times it can feel a little bit sluggish but I don't know if it's the ROM or my phone. I'd also be interested in hearing about your experiences with battery life in each ROM. I've been thinking of trying CyanAOSP because it's less cluttered and I have a hunch it would be more snappy.
Hopefully I'm not breaking any rules, I just wanted a really recent thread comparing the strengths and weaknesses of all the recent Jellybean ROMs. This isn't a question thread, it's more of an opinion thread.

I'm using CM10.2 build date - 10/15 for a day now. Have no problems. Everything works fine, including GPS after ds. Battery drain is normal.

selmandeli said:
I'm using CM10.2 build date - 10/15 for a day now. Have no problems. Everything works fine, including GPS after ds. Battery drain is normal.
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What's DS? Also, have you tried 10.1.3?

oneupe1even said:
What's DS? Also, have you tried 10.1.3?
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DS is DeepSleep. Its a state in which the phone uses minimal battery and thus the battery is saved.

oneupe1even said:
What's DS? Also, have you tried 10.1.3?
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If you mean the official CM 10.1.3, yes I tried it. It is stable and smooth. You can use it as a daily driver.

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I'm using CM10.2 build date - 10/15 for a day now. Have no problems. Everything works fine, including GPS after ds. Battery drain is normal.
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I just saw that you were using CyanAOSP. How would you compare it to CM 10.1.3 and 10.2?
Also, do you know where I can get the 1.75 ROM? I've heard the 2.0 has problems.

been running cyanaosp 2.0 since its release and its been fine beside a few random reboots, but im sure it was cause i had my device oc'd to high. this rom is perfect for me as i play alot of games.

Hi all,
New member of the forums, but I've been reading as much as I can about my Vibrant (Fascinate?) and I'm still kind of confused as to which model my phone really is. It's a Telus model sgh-t959d, but after flashing CyanAOSP 3.0.0 for the i9000, my phone info shows model GT-i9000. I understand there are similarities between these devices, but I was a little nervous about bricking my phone by flashing the wrong ROM. Well, it was a painless process that took less than 2 minutes! I upgraded from PassionICS, which was a good ROM, but kind of laggy. After a day of use, I can say CyanAOSP is much quicker, more refined and more fun to use. The customizations offered by Nova launcher are quite extensive and make it feel like a new phone. I highly recommend this ROM! Many thanks to the hard working devs!

Anybody have kernel recommendations to get more battery life out of CM 10.1 or 2?

CM
Im using CM 10.1.3 stable, think this is a best and stable ROM

I was using one of the CM 10.2 nightlies (10/25 specifically) for about a week before giving up on some serious battery drain and background android OS data usage issues... First time I ever exceeded my 5gig threshold pushing me down to slower speeds. Also USB data transfer simply stopped working after about a week... couldn't even mount via recovery.
Ultimately had to get new ROM files into my phone via the microSD/USB adapter and internally transferring to the internal directory.
That said, CM 10.2 itself is a very pleasant experience if you can avoid such issues - In hindsight I'd strongly suggest giving it a try but with a build that's known to be stable and without any such major issues if you intend to use it as a daily driver (the 10/15 build has been recommended more than once in my forum trawling). Lesson learned!
I made the switch last Saturday (6 days ago) to SlimBean Build 2 however, which is also based on 4.3.1. By comparison to my last experience, this has zero issues falling back to deep sleep, even after loading it down with all my favorite apps and sync settings. I've had one random reset to recovery in the middle of a phone call, and gps performance has been hit or miss so far, but otherwise there's a lot to like! Battery is back to respectable charging intervals and background data is in check. ROM itself is very zippy. Lock screen by comparison to CM 10.2 seems slightly sluggish to respond. I'll likely be sticking with this for a while.