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Another battery drain problem - driving me CRAZY!!

I know there are already a lot of discussions on battery drain and believe me, I have read every single one of them. However, I think mine is slightly different:
When fully charged and using WIFI for 10 minutes, 10% of juice will be used. Listening to MP3 for 1 hour will also use another 10%. Overall, battery life is really bad but the key is it only happened suddenly. It have been very good up till now.
I have tested this on another battery and have exactly the same results so it is not battery related. I have also hard reset the phone and tested the battery with nothing installed and it still drains. A full charge only lasts me like 4 hour of very light use.
I installed Battlog and the power consumption is around 90 which I think is pretty low, but at times, even with this low consumption, I can see the battery usage literally falling before my eyes, like 5 % in 5 minutes.
I have also tried the HTC battery test, i.e. fully charged the battery, turned on plane mode and full brightness. After one hour, it only used 8% which I thought is normal. However, if I start using the phone by just simply clicking around, it will start dropping.
I believe the phone is fine on standby but once it starts doing things, even simple operations like moving around folders, it starts consuming a lot of power.
This all happens after an overnight charging episode when I noticed that the light stays amber in the morning and the percentage stays at 80%. I soft reset the phone and it immediately show 100%. This has never happen again but my battery usage is never normal since.
All in all, I think it is somehow hardware related, like the battery gauge is bad or the charging is never complete but it still shows green. It is still under warranty but I think will be very difficult to convince the service centre that there is something genuinely wrong with the phone.
P.S. Should also mentioned that I am using the stock telstra rom and have also cycled through the batteries twice before testing.

I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..

Fenixz said:
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
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I had actually "reset" the battery but only drain it to 5% before recharging as I have read that it is not safe to drain to 0%. I'll try to completely drain it tonight and recharge. Will report back.
btw, I noticed that when the battery is charged to 100%, the led stays amber for about 15-20 minutes before turning green. Is this normal or should it turn green immediately after reaching 100%?

Tried completely draining the battery and charge overnight but have no effect. The problem persists. So this is definitely not a battery problem.
I guess the last thing I can try is charging the battery with a standalone charger or another HD to see if there is problem with the charging mechanism in my phone.

The latest Telstra rom seems a bit better on battery

led amber
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .

aidinali said:
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .
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aidinali, can you please explain what you mean? I thought the led will go off if you unplugged the charger. My problem is that after reaching 100% as indicated on the phone, the led stays amber for another 15 minutes before turning green.

Well , I'll correct & explain more....
1-when you reach %100 ,the led will turn to green immediately (if you’r phone is plugged in).
2-if you unplug ,the led will turn off (as you said ).
The problem is that since the battery meter in HD has not been defined by percentage , it doesn't match with
Apps like battery level or battlog .so when you see %100 on them , it' s not "real % 100 ".

I believe there is something wrong with the phone as the percentage usage and charging status do not match. However, since the basic HTC software does not have any battery usage in percentage, it’s hard to convince the service centre that something is wrong.
Any software that shows the battery as a percentage all have the same reading, so I assume they all rely on the mainboard for that information. There is obviously something wrong with either the charging process of the phone or draining more battery than it needs during usage.

I have 100% exactly the same problem as in the original post.
Does anyone else?
I have also tried 2 batteries and had exactly the same results with both, so I also know it is not the battery. The only app I have installed other than Dutty's 6.5 rom is Tomtom which does not need to be run for any of these issues to occur.
Any chance on warranty? I think it's software...

Try a different ROM. I've been having the same problem. I just flashed a new ROM about an hour ago (partly because Dutty's 6.5 kept freezing). I'm hoping both problems will be solved now.

i've found the latest radio rom to make a big different to battery life. 1.14.25.24_radio
the previous radio rom (1.13?) did suck the juice and made battery last 2 days less than 1.14

Try charging with a different charger. Ie. connect a USB cable on your PC and charge it from there.
I've had very similar problems with the stock charger a month after i got my TouchHD, and ended up testing with my old P4350 charger and all problems went away.
I've had similar drains even witch WiFi off, no emails, exchange or 3G access...
Now i'm getting a whole day's usage and i'm left with 30-40% battery, with 2 hours average talk time

I've tried with a number of chargers.....battery still sucks.
I've just switched from Dutty's to Energy ROM, radio is 1.14
If anything...energy drains more quickly than Dutty's
It says it drawing 350mA

Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.

samlives said:
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
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Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.

I had same problem when i flashed miri's rom, hd got warm and didn't last, it cooled down in standby, the answer to my problem was that the wifi was not set to save battery mode, once i set it to save power everything was ok

Used 8% in 24 hours
Fallen Spartan said:
Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
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Have been trying that for a month now....something seems to have suddenly worked It only used 8% of the battery in 24 hours! I live in the rainforest with no service so cellular was turned off...wifi on, but I only accessed it about 6 times......still,nothing has changed. The same conditions would leave me with a dead battery in 7 hours previously.
Time will tell if it keeps up this well.
By the way....Thanks

So basically you're saying people should drain down the battery to 1% or so and not to 0% (device dies when battery is out) to get a better battery strength?

Seems to be the general consensus. I'm still not sure if that's what made the difference for me but previously,I would put my device to standbye when I went to sleep at 10:30pm and it would be dead by 6am

Battery does not charge properly when D2 is off

Hi,
I noticed the following problem on my Diamond 2:
If I turn off the phone for night charge it never shows green in the morning.
The only way to see that amazing green light is to charge the phone whent it is turned on.
Of course I applied the latest hotfix - no use for the off mode charging. And of course I wrote to htc - will not waste your time repeating their suggestions.
And I am not happy with my phone battery life - it hardly endures one working day - lets say - 10 hours...
ROM - Official, yet.

orlean said:
Hi,
I noticed the following problem on my Diamond 2:
If I turn off the phone for night charge it never shows green in the morning.
The only way to see that amazing green light is to charge the phone whent it is turned on.
Of course I applied the latest hotfix - no use for the off mode charging. And of course I wrote to htc - will not waste your time repeating their suggestions.
And I am not happy with my phone battery life - it hardly endures one working day - lets say - 10 hours...
ROM - Official, yet.
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I never turn my phone off so the green light problem never arises. However I will check and see if occurs.
As for battery life, you will need to give it a few weeks of use before you see maximum battery life.
Make sure you don't continually discharge the battery (better still keep it charging whenever you can) and you should see improvement over time.
Unlocking and replaceing the ROM can also have a significant effect on battery performance as does the Radio version in use. That's going to need some work on your part but the improvements are there to be had.
Some apps that are in common use are also power hungry and can cause a significant drain on power.
And if you install your apps to mem card then again that uses more power than installs to phone storage memory.
You can also turn off any unused background apps and processes.
Only turn on Bluetooth and WiFi when needed.
All these things help.
Personally I carry a spare standard battery with me at all times and strangely since I bought it I haven't needed to us it. The placebo battery effect?

Thanks for the answer.
About the battery usage conseption:
You suggest that I plug my phone each time when possible?
I thought that as the battery has XX recharges according to the specifications it is not good to charge each time whenever you got AC or USB access
I started to follow your recommendation anyway.
For example however - my laptop is never (when possible) with battery in it. I use the battery only when necessary, becasue in the user manual is written that has 300 cycles of recharging. And I always wait until completely discharged before charging. That is how I began treating the Dimond, too.

orlean said:
Thanks for the answer.
About the battery usage conseption:
You suggest that I plug my phone each time when possible?
I thought that as the battery has XX recharges according to the specifications it is not good to charge each time whenever you got AC or USB access
I started to follow your recommendation anyway.
For example however - my laptop is never (when possible) with battery in it. I use the battery only when necessary, becasue in the user manual is written that has 300 cycles of recharging. And I always wait until completely discharged before charging. That is how I began treating the Dimond, too.
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With Lithium Ion batteries the "quoted" numbers of "rechage" is is an approximate equivalent to give some idea of life expectacy.
It's a hangover from the old NiCad battery days and is not really very helpful when applied to Lithium Ion usage.
The most important aspect of LIon is it's ability to hold it's voltge at max current for longer than other technology. It does this best when well charged and maintained at near max as possible as often as possible. The downside is it's life expectancy which does deteriorate over time.
If you require max daily useage then max charging whenever possible will give you this and you will have to accept that the battery will at some point loose it's charge retaining capabilities and will have to be replaced.
For most of us that's the most important thing.

This is not a battery issue, I believe that this is a software one.
I noticed this morning, having left my phone on charge, and 'off', all night, that the indicator light was still red. When I switched on the phone, it showed only 80% charged.
Having seen this before, I carried out a soft reset, the battery indicator then showed fully charged.
So the battery is charging fully, but the battery charge indicator is showing less than that.

[Q] Battery level showing problem 50% to 15%.

Samsung GT-T5800. Android OS 2.1-update 1, I5800XXJH1, Kernel 2.6.29 root SE-S603 #2.
The problem:
1. Battery till 50% discharges normally - about 10-15% per day, but after 50% it immediately shows 15% and asks to connect charger and phone switches off very fast. actually no chance to mane even emergency call. No 40%, no 30%, no 20% in battery level.
2. When connect phone to charger - battery charging level immediately set to 80% or every ~10 seconds: 50%, 60%, 70%, 80%. After that phone charges about 1,5-2 hours till 100% and after about 1-2hours it asks to disconnect from the charger. Battery temperature during charging and after it: 31-33C.
After 3d 8h 40min. (~80hours using applications: Battery booster and Memory Booster, no 3G) of battery usage phone switches off.
Battery usage was:
Android system: 61%
Cell Standby: 19%
Phone Idle: 12%
Bluetooth: 4%
Voice calls: 4%
Time from 15% to 5% - 15 minutes with no using the phone. Battery's temperature 20C, Voltage: 3588mV Phone switches off. I have tried 2-3 times to switch on the phone to make battery more empty and finally switched it on and at the same time connected it to charger.
Here is the interesting charging time line after phone died and was switched on to charge it (sorry - no in seconds):
0:00 - 1% - 20C/3588mV (temperature/voltage)
0:01 - 3%
0:01 - 5%
0:01 - 15%
0:02 - 15%
0:03 - 30%
0:03 - 40%
0:04 - 30%
0:05 - 15%
0:07 - 15%
0:09 - 30%
0:12 - 40%
0:14 - 30%
0:15 - 15%
0:16 - 30% - 28C/3698mV
0:18 - 40% - 28C/3718mV
0:20 - 50% - 28C/3730mV
0:21 - 40% - 28C/3727mV
0:23 - 50% - 27C/3728mV
0:36 - 60% -
0:36 - 50% - 26C/3769mV
0:37 - 60% - 26C/3774mV
0:59 - 60% - 26C/3807mV
1:24 - 60% - 26C/3807mV
2:06 - 70%
2:07 - 80% - 26C/3906mV
2:44 - 90% - 26C/3971mV
3:18 -100% - 25C/4101mV
4:03 -100% - 22C/4184mV - Asked to disconnect the charger.
After this charge GT-I5800 (with no any software changes) stoped to show 50% to 15%, but 30% disappears fast to 15% (it means one short call).
Possible that battery issue reason is that (I think) phone was charged partly switched off and partly switched on.
Maybe there are some battery level controlling OS software bugs, I do not know.
Is it official bug or issue?
Or some guru can comment that battery level issue? I saw I was not first user having it.

should be from the firmware
it seems this happening to all

Well i also have exactly the same issue...
I have observed that when i make/recieve a call the battery voltage decreases greatly because of which the battery also decreases and after sometime the battery voltage comes back to normal but NOT the battery.
My battery also drops down from 50% to 15% or 5%.....It's really very annoying...
I think that this is a frimware issue but i am not sure..I am scared that it could be a hardware issue...
Well i have mailed Samsung also regarding this issue so that they fix this issue in the next frimware upgrade and hope others also do the same so that we have a better chance of this bug getting fixed.....!!!

pravarthegreatest said:
Well i also have exactly the same issue...
I have observed that when i make/recieve a call the battery voltage decreases greatly because of which the battery also decreases and after sometime the battery voltage comes back to normal but NOT the battery.
My battery also drops down from 50% to 15% or 5%.....It's really very annoying...
I think that this is a frimware issue but i am not sure..I am scared that it could be a hardware issue...
Well i have mailed Samsung also regarding this issue so that they fix this issue in the next frimware upgrade and hope others also do the same so that we have a better chance of this bug getting fixed.....!!!
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And when I switch off / on the phone then it shows probably correct vallue. For an example. It shows me 15% and after restart it is 60 %. What a stupid bug - I've never have this problem with any device before. Even phones 10 years ago were able to show correct battery status. I think this problem was also with original 2.1 android firmware.

Can someone who has upgraded to froyo pl. confirm that this issue is resolved in the new firmware?
Sent from my GT-I5801 using XDA App

TekkenLaw said:
Can someone who has upgraded to froyo pl. confirm that this issue is resolved in the new firmware?
Sent from my GT-I5801 using XDA App
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yes, in JP9 / froyo is still this battery problem. When I switch on / off the phone then it's ok. Does someone resolved this issue please ?

My issue still exists. Froyo did not help. Also I can't understand why does one time on charging battery becomes hot, another time -cold.

same for me, and today i charged my phone and after charging just put it on my table after 1h i saw that there are only 80%. Didn't see this on other firmwares

Same here. I thought it is because of my battery manager widget which I had installed, but un-installing/master clear also did not help. Looks like it is major problem. Moreover, few of the battery widgets mention that in some devices they report 1% level battery change, but in Samsung I5801, it will be 10%.

what about this issue at JPA ?
when you was installing JPA did you hard reset your phone ? (factory settings)
If yes which application do you use for restore all of the datas and settigns ?

Yes, it was done. Hard reset seems is not related, and did not help.

Same problem here...
Since built in battery meter is not accurate at all Im using custom one but problem remains.

might fix battery issue.
might work...saw it for Epic 4g and gave it a shot (as its Samsung too). Some sites say LiON do not have memory like NiCd did but somehow it worked for me. Now I stay on 100% for 5hrs or so. lasting 2 days with 45mins call time and some Wifi use. Like today charged full 100% at 9AM and now its 2230 and I have 80%.I have switched off a lot of things. See below.
http://androidforums.com/epic-4g-tips-tricks/171804-recalibrating-battery.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701567
Above needs to be done once only. If it doesn't work then go to service center. Remember battery has 6 months warranty only so be quick and try above on new battery.
I also run LauncherPro instead of stock. Disabled data and enable when out of AP range (only use Wifi when needed and have an AP). Background data/synch is always off unless I use market. All apps are set to never except Gmail. Use K9 Email too and ATK. Am on DDj6 FM. Have removed a lot of apps, foursquare included and run 2 screen with LauncherPro widgets only.
Settings to switch off are here.
http://jvoegele.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-to-improve-battery-life-for-samsung.html
http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-hack-your-htc-evo-4g-increase-battery-life-373058/

afalak said:
might work...saw it for Epic 4g and gave it a shot (as its Samsung too). Some sites say LiON do not have memory like NiCd did but somehow it worked for me. Now I stay on 100% for 5hrs or so. lasting 2 days with 45mins call time and some Wifi use. Like today charged full 100% at 9AM and now its 2230 and I have 80%.I have switched off a lot of things. See below.
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As long as I know li ion batteries doesnt have the memory effect but they still have to be recalibrated from time to time, lets say once a month. That means dont charge the phone until it goes off and then charge to the top.
I wasnt willing to wait for 11 hours for phone to charge when I bought it and after few days I ve notice that battery last very short. After that I ve performed the full cycle (drain to the bottom - when phone turn itself off, then after few minutes turn it on, wait until it goes off - repeat few times until its completely off then charge it fully - I usually turn off the phone while charging ).
As long as I know all modern devices like phones, notebooks etc shut down before the battery is completely drained because they want to have safe margin of the battery power because of, as long as I know, when li ion batteries become completely drained then could be damaged completely so you cant recharge them again. Anyway with that "turn on then its drained" I believe that I use the battery more than normal and that phone will recalibrate to the new situation figuring that battery have more voltage than phone "expected".
Anyway with few recharging cycles like those I ve described above I can use the phone now for a 2 days with moderate usage...
That 50-15 problem still exist but 100% period last quite long and also phone can be used a long time from the moment battery reach 15% ...

Try doing it the other way round!
Keep your device on constant charge or at least as much as possible for 10 days from new and you should have now problem.
I have run tests on Lion powered devices for the past 5 years and I have never had to "calibrate" once.
My battery usage is always consistent and seemingly accurate.
And this method encourages max power from the battery.
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i just flashed my I5801 with Froyo (XXJPB and then XXJPA), but having very low battery back up, can anyone advice something which can help boosting the performance of the battery? Please help.

charging problem

I was on quark os v.1. VoLTE, video calls, battery charging, and back up were fine. After that I clean flashed sanyam jain's n7.1. I faced very slow charging on standby, sometimes no increment in battery percentage while power off (after hours when I try to wake it up while power off it looks like it had forgotten to charge and starts like I put in the charging pin) and discharging( but slowly and some times remained at the same level) while using net .
then i clean flashed quark os v2. Same problems persisted again and also video call option disappeared. Finally I reverted to quark os v1 and the problems continued . I changed charger also but all in vain
Now I am charging my battery independently using self made butterfly and it gives good backup which perhaps proves battery is OK.
I think charging files have been deleted on my phone because during power off battery level only increases while keeping screen awake and it doesn't charge even by 1 % for full night charging during power off mode. I don't need solution for video calling, I only want my charging problem fixed. Hope you help me. Thanks

My battery drains when phone is turned of and phone will not restart on new battery

Hello, i have an SM-N9005 and have always thought it was some kind of software glitch.
Now upgraded and tested several Nougat and Oreo Mods and same error. Running on RR 8.1 Mod
Even when fully turned off the battery drains 6-8% per hour.
If I take it out OK
But then when installing another fully charged battery the phone will not restart until a power cable or power bank is connected for a few seconds so it lights up the charging meter. So I can't just take out the battery overnight or while travelling
I just very annoying. Have replaced the power connection socket but same after that
Also heats up badly with CPU up to 65-68 C or more but has now turned down clock speed to test

Test with a stock rom only .
But reads to me as a problem on the motherboard .

I have similar issues. Any resolution software related?

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