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found this What do you think" here is the link.... http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/htc-hd2-breaks-free-in-the-t-mobile-usa-wilds/ and here...http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/htc-hd2-and-moto-cliq-xt-pricing-revealed-in-t-mobile-database/
Ok, so
I've been a WM user back since CE 2.0 and currently am carrying a T-Mobile Dash and a Toshiba E805, so I'm ready to upgrade the two of them into a HD2, but am curious about the potential for this thing. I don't want to be locked in to a EOL (End of Life) item from the start, and am willing to wait a few months for WM7, but in reality with all the purchased software I own I doubt I'd be happy losing it all and starting fresh with WM7. I'd tend to go with a different platform, maybe a N1 or an (gasp) Iphone but my problem is I'm a hopeless tinkerer and techie so I will definately NOT be happy on a closed platform.
Although I'm not a fan of M$ the CE/WM platform is amazingly open and compliant to my wishes, although the 32 process limit has been a nightmare, I've been pretty happy with it. The E805 with 640x480 looks and performs great, I have a larger battery so I can run it pretty much all day.
Oh, I'm currently using T-Zones and really don't want to pay $30 for Internet on whatever I get.
So my question to you folks who either have a HD2 already or know more about this than I is should I get the HD2 at the end of the month and live with the platform for 3-5 more years, possibly with vendors limiting support, seeing lots of new stuff come out for the newer platforms that will be there, or should I wait for this market to flesh out and go for a new architecture?
Thanks,
Marc
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you're thinking about it when it's sold at THOSE prices?
I am deeply offended, admitting the news are real.
I cannot tolerate that on 21st january I had to spend 440€ on this phone, one-month used by another person (plus everything else I had to buy on it, totalling 500€ roughly), while it's being sold NEW in the US, unbranded, with 1GB ROM, officially supported 576MB RAM, an included 16GB microsd, for what is the equivalent of less than 330€.
It's like stepping on users' money.
I am not among those complaining about "newer hd2 with more rom", but I am sure as heck furious about it being sold, new and with better bundle, for roughly 25% less than what I payed my used phone less than couple months ago.
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you're thinking about it when it's sold at THOSE prices?
I am deeply offended, admitting the news are real.
I cannot tolerate that on 21st january I had to spend 440€ on this phone, one-month used by another person (plus everything else I had to buy on it, totalling 500€ roughly), while it's being sold NEW in the US, unbranded, with 1GB ROM, officially supported 576MB RAM, an included 16GB microsd, for what is the equivalent of less than 330€.
It's like stepping on users' money.
I am not among those complaining about "newer hd2 with more rom", but I am sure as heck furious about it being sold, new and with better bundle, for roughly 25% less than what I payed my used phone less than couple months ago.
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well, that is just the nature of the beast. you don't even want to know what i paid for an xperia x1 when it first came out and what it sold for 3 months later. or my iphone and what it sold for 3 months later
nothing you can do about it. either buy it right away at the higher price or wait it out. what you are paying for is the early usage of the device, sucks but that is just how it goes.
I guess my main problem with this is with the announcement of WM7 support for this beast will wane. I can get a N1 or an Iphone which AREN'T new platforms, will have lots of support, and likely get updates for a long time. The HD2 (which I've been waiting for almost a year for) has great hardware, probobly a bit better than either of those other two, but is it worth it to lock my self in to obsolescence?
Thought I would just give my two pence on the Legend, just got one for the wife, I'm sticking with my Touch Pro2 Didn't see an "I GOT MINE" thread but if there is one I apologise.
The aluminium body is awesome very impressive and handles well
Nice and fast, no choppiness, bluetooth contacts sync (40 or 50 odd) from my TP2 went through faultlessly and easily (no confirming each one, etc) some lack of copy and paste on gmails, weird that it doesn't come up as a "proper" mail account even though the mails come through fine. Had to SMS my wireless key from TP2, then forward the message so I could copy & paste into wireless settings. Sucks a bit, but I'm used to WinMo goodness Wireless connects fine each time. (TP2 is sometimes a bit flakey connecting with all ROMs at least on my AP) Doesn't know what to do with WM notes files but that's to be expected.
On-screen keyboard is a bit too small for my fingers but no probz for the wife.
Capacitive screen takes some getting used to after using my resistive TP2. Fingernails don't work! hehe booo (and no stylus) Screen is very nice to look, seems brighter and "punchier" than my TP2. (think it's OLED?)
GSM signal doesn't seem as good as my TP2, sometimes you will get "emergency calls only" whereas on my TP2 that is much more rare, particularly since the 4.xx radio upgrades. Still early days yet though.
No video calling which is a minor downer since my TP2 has it, also it doesn't seem to tilt sideways although it comes with Teeter (haven't tried that yet tho) wondering if it really has a tilt sensor or not. Guy in the shop thought it didn't. But it does rotate to landscape when it needs to (camera, etc) so no biggie either way.
The optical scrolly dot below the screen is a nice touch. (particularly as she is paranoid about mucking up the screen until we put screen protector on haha)
Good to see VPN support, haven't tried it yet though. I set up IPSEC/L2TP (ie. the way WinMo demands IPSEC) at home so we will see if Android will play ball with that.
Vodafone branding is almost non-existent from what I can see, definitely not the white and red train wreck I was faced with when I got my Voda TP2 haha
No crashes yet although we did have to reset to factory defaults after a gmail signup issue where it set the primary account to something she didn't want (cos it was failing to create account all over the place, ended up creating on a PC) so had to reset the whole thing Still it wasn't that painful as this was in the first hour or two of getting it.
A nice looking phone she's well happy with it, but then she upgraded from an ancient Samsung flip from like 5 years ago haha It's the first time either of us have really played with an Android phone, she's used to dumbphones but is very tech savvy (for a girl haha ) and I've been using PPC / WinMo for over 10 years.
Personally my first impression is I'm glad I have the TP2 wouldn't trade it for the Legend but she's over the moon with it so everyone's happy If I were to place Android in the market based on a few hours of minor fiddling I would place it between WinMo (power users) and iPhone (hairdressers haha ) in terms of ease of use and capabilities. No plans to hack on it, I'll wait till she gets bored of it first
Got it free on a £20 p/m contract on Vodafone from a Voda store, they threw in a leather case and generic screen protectors without a fight. Were really nice to deal with. 500 meg data, can't remember the rest of the details but will find out if anyone asks. Also it is possible to put a consumer tariff (which this was) on a business account, which I didn't know.
I've just got this deal too and so far I'm very pleased. Although i didn't haggle for a leather case and screen protectors, WHAT A FOOL!
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Got it free on a £20 p/m contract on Vodafone from a Voda store, they threw in a leather case and generic screen protectors without a fight. Were really nice to deal with. 500 meg data, can't remember the rest of the details but will find out if anyone asks. Also it is possible to put a consumer tariff (which this was) on a business account, which I didn't know.
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Yes please!
Samfau2 said:
I've just got this deal too and so im I'm very pleased. Although i didn't haggle for a leather case and screen protectors, WHAT A FOOL!
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Some tips for you:
1. Show up 15 mins before the shop closes
2. Take a hot chick with you
3. Maybe have a business account with 2 phones already
4. "It comes with x, yeah?"
5. Be cheeky
heheee
I dug the paperwork out and the full details are as follows:
"Free" HTC Legend
100 minutes xnet
500 texts
500 meg data (not listed on receipt but confirmed verbally, I have "VP VMI" on the price plan name, Vodafone Mobile Internet?)
Free case (generic leather vodafone one, £6 worth, she'll change that as I suspect it's not nearly pink or girly enough)
Free screen protectors (the generic vodafone ones u have to cut up, they are a bit crap but will do for now, don't use the mirror ones they make the colours go funny, again she will probably get an invisibleshield or sommet cos she likes mine on the TP2)
Free mobile TV all channels for a month (remember to cancel)
Free 10 tracks a month for one month off the music store (ditto)
Free insurance for a month (may not cancel this ...)
Phone pre-packaged with a memory card, think it's 4 gig
24 month contract
I wasn't giving these guys a hard time at all, salesman was quite happy, it was quite a quick impulse buy although we did a bit of research on the phone and tariffs beforehand. The deal I got was printed up on the wall in the VF store so it's nothing special in that respect. They did mention they were having no problems shifting the Legends
Hope this helps.
That £20 deal is on VF website plus at the moment they offer £150 on Quidco so under £15pm. Mine arrives tomorrow ;-)
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That £20 deal is on VF website plus at the moment they offer £150 on Quidco so under £15pm. Mine arrives tomorrow ;-)
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Ah man I tried that cashback thing once (not quidco another one) and it just never came through. Couldn't be arsed chasing them over it. Awesome deal that tho.
Crap! Why didn't i get cashback on this beast?
I think i was just wayyy too excited to actually be getting a decent phone. I've been living with a brick for way too long.
I think voda have the legend exclusively and i had my heart set on it, i think the deal is pretty reasonable though and ive had nothing but great signal, web coverage and service so far.
I'm loving my Legend too, I think it is an absolutely cracking phone. I'm also pleased about the minimal Voda branding, all I see is the splash screen on boot, that's it.
I got 300 mins, unlimited texts and 500mb internet for £20 PCM. I actually went for the £20 PCM deal for 100 mins, etc as it seemed enough and was a good enough deal that I didn't feel it worth haggling but when he phoned up to confirm he quoted me the £25PCM deal for £20! I did the honest thing and said that's not what they originally quoted but he said that now he's accidently quoted it they have to offer it - bit random but hey.
Awesome, lucky you. I'm not likely to use more than my hundred mins but might be pushing it occasionally with the 500 texts, we'll see. Also, I agree its nice to see that Vodafone kept the branding to a minimum.
well mines finally arrived and I'm loving. only slight annoyance is voda haven't provided the update to i can get layer and google goggles apps. i read on vf forums its coming soon though.
has anyone debranded ?
I was also slightly annoyed it didn't have the update. But for free apps like Google goggles you can usually find an apk file on the net and install it using sometimg like astro. Not always the the latest version though and you can't update it. I'll upload goggles for you if you can't find it. Haven't tried for layar.
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Yeah I know, not the first thread on the subject
I am a rather happy owner of a Galaxy Tab for the past 36 hours and I just wanted to share my feelings about the usage as a phone. Until I own it I was pretty much convinced this was going to be my main phone, just a question of being able to use a Bluetooth headset with it.
I am not 100% sure anymore.
First, and probably because it's the first time I use a headset I have found this much less convenient than using a phone (This is hopefully just a question of getting used to it). Can't see who is calling (Yep with the right headset the name will show, I may purchase one, but still wont have the picture), people around can hear much better what you're saying, if if you have to manipulate the tab for whatever reason, given its size you feel clumsy
Second, texting while walking in the street is pretty much more difficult. The Tab is big, easy to drop (Read the few threads around of people who broke their screen). It takes me half a second to take my Touch Pro 2 out of my pocket, get the keyboard out and type some messages while walking. And given its size I nearly never dropped it (And whenever I did it always survived without being wounded ). I am definitely slower with my tab (Plus I have to get used to use an on-screen keyboard, but then yeah on this I guess it's a question of getting used to it)
Third (maybe funny): while in meetings I didn't see anybody raise an eyebrow whenever I was texting with my TP2 (looks a bit like a blackberry and anyway quite discrete) I can see how much attention I draw whenever I answer some txt or emails now ! And with the screen size it make sit easy to see what I ma doing... Not the Tab's neg, but for me kind of a drawback
Last one (This one may make some laugh): I love clubbing, bar hoping, etc... I thought it would fit my back pocket. And it does ! however try dancing with that in your back pocket... That's not gonna work And there is no way I'd leave my phone at the cloak, I need it with me (take phone numbers, give direction to friends, etc...). I'd be better off leaving the Tab in the cloak and still go around with a small device (Even an average sized device like my TP2 handles OK while dancing)
I love the form factor, so easy to carry around, but in the end I understand much better Blackberry's approach with the Playbook, it's probably the best way to go, and I am considering using the Tab as a second device.
However I see the pain ahead... Don't wanna have 2 plans. And that's where it sucks. It seems in many countries you are able to have 2 SIM cards with the same number (With kind of a master device and a slave one). Couldn't find anything similar with AT&T in the US If anybody ever heard of this kind of services.... It would be perfect. Then I can still swap SIM cards but that sucks... (And I guess if you do it 5 times a day you may damage your SIM (If not lose it while dropping it)). Another solution is to tether the phone to the Tab (Great I paid for a 3G Tab for nothing !!) but on that I am quite worried about the battery life of both devices Maybe through Bluetooth rather than Wifi ? Would consume less ? If anybody has an idea... Or could try SIM cloning... But it seems it's not really possible anymore with SIM v2 (And besides if the operator doesn't offer the service described above I guess there will be conflicts between the 2 devices at some stage (Not 100% sure but possible)
Anyway... Don't flame me, would just be happy to exchange on the subject with people who have found solutions, have ideas on the matter, or just inform future buyers
Waoh, zero interest on the subject !
Well, i dont have one, but i can defiantly see where using it as a phone could lead to some problems, even if it does fit in you back pocket. It is interesting that you attempted it though, but pulling it out at meetings...thats priceless
Alcibiade said:
I love the form factor, so easy to carry around, but in the end I understand much better Blackberry's approach with the Playbook, it's probably the best way to go, and I am considering using the Tab as a second device.
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I think the irony is that most of us in Europe wouldn't consider using the Tab as primary phone even though it is a fully functional phone, whereas in the US it's the other way around.
However I see the pain ahead... Don't wanna have 2 plans. And that's where it sucks. It seems in many countries you are able to have 2 SIM cards with the same number (With kind of a master device and a slave one).
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In the UK, we don't have the ability to have multiple SIMs with the same phone number either, but it is far less of an issue compared to the US because we have an extremely competitive market for data.
For example, on T-Mobile in the UK, for £20 (around $32) I can get 6 months worth of mobile internet with 1GB FUP which is ideal for a Tab which doesn't go out and about too often - and there's no overages, just an understanding that they may restrict service if you regularly go over your FUP allowance.
For £10 ($16) a month, I can get truly unlimited internet (excludes tethering) on Giffgaff which is ideal for the more mobile Tab.
When it comes to contracts, I have a mobile broadband contract on 3 that gives me 15GB a month for £15, which allows tethering etc.
I'm planning on heading over to Florida for 6 or 7 weeks early next year, and I'm probably going to get a MiFi of some sort with a T-Mobile Web Connect SIM, but it's going to be a hell of a lot more expensive than something comparable in the UK.
Regards,
Dave
NickDroid said:
Well, i dont have one, but i can defiantly see where using it as a phone could lead to some problems, even if it does fit in you back pocket. It is interesting that you attempted it though, but pulling it out at meetings...thats priceless
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The thing is since not so many people know what it is, it attracts attention... So it's not very discrete, while a small phone you can type your personal messages during meetings people don't really pay attention (Or think you're sending professional messages)
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I think the irony is that most of us in Europe wouldn't consider using the Tab as primary phone even though it is a fully functional phone, whereas in the US it's the other way around.
In the UK, we don't have the ability to have multiple SIMs with the same phone number either, but it is far less of an issue compared to the US because we have an extremely competitive market for data.
For example, on T-Mobile in the UK, for £20 (around $32) I can get 6 months worth of mobile internet with 1GB FUP which is ideal for a Tab which doesn't go out and about too often - and there's no overages, just an understanding that they may restrict service if you regularly go over your FUP allowance.
For £10 ($16) a month, I can get truly unlimited internet (excludes tethering) on Giffgaff which is ideal for the more mobile Tab.
When it comes to contracts, I have a mobile broadband contract on 3 that gives me 15GB a month for £15, which allows tethering etc.
I'm planning on heading over to Florida for 6 or 7 weeks early next year, and I'm probably going to get a MiFi of some sort with a T-Mobile Web Connect SIM, but it's going to be a hell of a lot more expensive than something comparable in the UK.
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Dave
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Well... I am European... (Although I live in NY)
US carriers suck for data plans. I lived in japan and HK before where for half the price I got much better service... Definitely for £10 a month I wouldn't even bother thinking about using my phone SIM card in my Tab to take advantage of my unlimited data plan (Which by the way in the SU looks more and more like it will be limited by throttling down once you reach a threshold.............)
Why would you need 2 plans with AT&T tab? I guess you didn't want to flash her.
Your other points are completely valid. It is just a matter of personal opinion/wanting to replace the phone with tab enough. Thanks for sharing!
Here are some workarounds you could investigate:
Try a bluetooth stereo headset with a display.
Use the Sony LiveView and wear as a watch.
Type with a tiny bluetooth keyboard.
Get a separate smartphone with a VNC client. Turn on the mobile hotspot, on your Galaxy Tab, and then control it with the smaller smartphone.
How is the Galaxy Tab's battery life as a phone, by the way?
Thanks for the post. I've been thinking to get the tab to replace my I9000 as the main phone, but after I read your post, I think I'll hold it for a while .....
PLinga said:
Here are some workarounds you could investigate:
Try a bluetooth stereo headset with a display.
Use the Sony LiveView and wear as a watch.
Type with a tiny bluetooth keyboard.
Get a separate smartphone with a VNC client. Turn on the mobile hotspot, on your Galaxy Tab, and then control it with the smaller smartphone.
How is the Galaxy Tab's battery life as a phone, by the way?
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I thought about these options... Still not satisfying
Battery life ? I dont phone much but definitely much better than my Touch pro 2 (And I use activesync, bluetooth, etc...)
Hello.
I'm a computer student, a poor computer student! who can change his phone every 2 years! I earn money with hard student working. It's time to change now, I've a (crappy) LG Arena KM900 for 2 years and I cant really ignore this piece of wasted money anymore. Short story...
Is it reasonable to buy a HD2 for about 450 USD?! Here I can find used HD2 for $330 too but who cares, I can't trust other people (and their great used phone!).
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Another option is Galaxy S, I9000 with exactly 455 USD, no used one found. Now what you think? I can also have a Moto Milestone (used) for $290. Here we don't access to int postal & payment services so just forget amazon, ebay and...
- I've enjoyed changing my Arena theme with some geeky tricks! so HD2 with all of this roms and os selections...
- I'm afraid of HD2 production to be stopped and I miss my dreams phone! else I really don't care of new phones with 8 cpu cores or 12mp cameras!
- My current phone dpesn't have bluetooth PAN ability which is used for using phone internet connection on PC. does HD2 have this?
- I'm a fan of wp7, can I count on HD2 with this os? what about battery life?!
- is is reaaly so BIG that I can't put it in my jeans pocket?
Thanks you
Hello,
First of all,
-Yes, the HD2 does have bluetooth PAN.
-WP7 has some bugs on the HD2 which briefly are:
+*Multitouch does not work properly.
+*Compass is not working with Mango (until now).
+*There seems to be a lot of people struggling with the battery life. (however I have not had that).
+*The speaker's sound is horrible.
-It's big when you are using it, and small when you are to put it into your pocket (it's not that big).
Also, you have to be aware of two things:
The HD2 has two major issues, one being the touchscreen, some devices lose their touchscreens after an amount of time.
The second thing is, the End button may wear off for frequent use or become too hard to press, and sometimes this may also cause the screen to become unresponsive.
(correct me if I'm wrong)
My opinion,
For a two years old device, $450 can get you something better. But if you can get it less, I'd definitely recommend getting one .
But the HD2 is still the best for me, and I don't think I'm changing it, not at least for another year .
You can get a used HTC HD2 for ~$150 and ship it to wherever you live
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My opinion,
For an almost 3 years old device, $450 can get you something better. But if you can get it less, I'd definitely recommend getting one .
But the HD2 is still the best for me, and I don't think I'm changing it, not at least for another year .
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Not so old, sir! It released 2009 november, so it's exactly 2 years old...
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Not so old, sir! It released 2009 november, so it's exactly 2 years old...
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You are correct. However, I counted it as 2009 YOP and now we are almost 2012.
More like $200.00 I STILL HAVE MINE EXACTLY 2YRS OLD
Marvlesz said:
Hello,
First of all,
-Yes, the HD2 does have bluetooth PAN.
-WP7 has some bugs on the HD2 which briefly are:
+*Multitouch does not work properly.
+*Compass is not working with Mango (until now).
+*There seems to be a lot of people struggling with the battery life. (however I have not had that).
+*The speaker's sound is horrible.
-It's big when you are using it, and small when you are to put it into your pocket (it's not that big).
Also, you have to be aware of two things:
The HD2 has two major issues, one being the touchscreen, some devices lose their touchscreens after an amount of time.
The second thing is, the End button may wear off for frequent use or become too hard to press, and sometimes this may also cause the screen to become unresponsive.
(correct me if I'm wrong)
My opinion,
For a two years old device, $450 can get you something better. But if you can get it less, I'd definitely recommend getting one .
But the HD2 is still the best for me, and I don't think I'm changing it, not at least for another year .
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Thank you, very useful answer
So you say if I buy an unused device then take care of that then still I may have problems with screen & buttons?
Let's make it clear, I'm on my decide for HD2, it's about one whole year that I'm reading reviews and following software improvements... this topic is actually a try to forget all those fresh and stylish gadgets
But! if you think HD2 will disappoint me then which phone should I buy instead? to me SGS is also attractive, you know, because of it's roms & customizations + great hardware.
Should I forget HD2 because of it's old hardware and expensive price in my country? then I think it's better to wait and buy a NOW DAYS phone when I have enough money?! or you have a better offer...?
More like $200.00 I STILL HAVE MINE EXACTLY 2YRS OLD
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and you're still happy with this monster?
if you were me then what?
Hey myview.ir ,
i bought my own HD2 5 days ago for 230 $ on Ebay.
It was declared as "nearly new without any scratches".
Windows Mobile gave out a compleate speaking time of 5 Minutes!
Go out and search a nice looking HD2 on Ebay, buy it with Paypal and you'll be happy with it (of course, install Android 2.35 with Sense like this one:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1298188 ).
I'm a "poor" student too - so don't waste your money for buying things like new smartphones
I also bought mine for 230$ Its really great phone I moved from SE x10 just one week ago. I took me like 1 day to learn how to install, modify nand to be able to install android but I figured it out and when I saw rom with sense 3.5 for the first time ever I said it was the best move I could do Hd2 has much bigger community and roms works much better :] Already installed shadowgun and guest what? It works really great smooth and fast so the question is why wouldn't I love this phone?
thank you Cadilac & sab3r
I'm in love with this device, mainly because of of that it's not a phone like any others, yes my friend recently bought a shiny xperia arc s wich is really great looking and he is so happy with that but I'm not of that type! It's vivid, anyone who stayed with HD2 has a reason and it's freedom, oh ah :]
ok. Shopping from ebay is a normal thing for you, but here in my country if you want to have a $100 paypal payment then you have to pay $130! we don't have paypal or visa or master here, whoahh :\
prepareing for $450 deal
I'm crazy. huh!
This is an amazing phone, after 18 months I still don't want to change it despite being an early adopter in most things (which is always tough on my low salary!). I'd definitely recommend this phone, but as others say, look at the $230-250 range of prices. Good luck!
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Love my HD2. Best phone ever!!!!!!!! Recently broke my phone. Got a new one for $150. Cant bet that......lol
Also got to say - love this phone - play with it more than I use it!
Also dropped it a few times, cracked the small glass covering the camera lens but it seems to take better photos now.
450$ is far too much. I bought it new 340€ last year at a mall
less than 300$ can be reasonable.
Ok!
Thank you all, I'm still in love. Some people said to me about battery problems with HD2, compared to i9000 sgs. My current phone is horrible on this field and if HD2 has a weak battery then it's deal breaker for me! I know, it's a smartphone with massive screen and some energy eater parts inse but lets compare it to other HTC devices, like dhd or newer sensation...
and yeah, "berrutti" said that it's too much for a dated gadget. I don't know, maybe best thing I can do is going to the city shop and ask both HD2 & i9000 and play with them some minutes then trust my feel! I's hard to decide, fresh young device with well-known old hero.
XDA-Developers Market Forum
I bought a used T-Mobile HD2 right here on the XDA-Developers Market Forum for US$200, which included shipping. I suggest you try this as you can be fairly sure about who you are dealing with and their trustworthiness.
Because of my location any worlwide service will cost so much, if I want a used HD2 with $250 then it will finish $370 for me!
I've found some local used devices which doesn't have any additional cost, bust I don't know sellers! here I've listed them:
- HD2 with one year of usage, price: ~ $320
additional tools: 2 batteries & 8GB memory card
http://alldigitall.ir/specs.aspx?pid=2795
- HD2 with 2 years of usage, price: ~ $345
additional tools: TV cable & case
http://alldigitall.ir/specs.aspx?pid=2805
- Samsung galaxy S with 4 months of usage, price: ~ $370
http://alldigitall.ir/specs.aspx?pid=2804
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so,
I'm thinking!
myview.ir said:
Because of my location any worlwide service will cost so much, if I want a used HD2 with $250 then it will finish $370 for me!
I've found some local used devices which doesn't have any additional cost, bust I don't know sellers! here I've listed them:
so,
I'm thinking!
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It still might be worth your time to put an ad on the XDA-Developers Market Forum, as this is a worldwide forum, and just like you, not all members are in the US. There is a chance you could find someone in Ireland, or nearby in Europe, who has an HD2, and then your shipping charges would not be so high.
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I was very much like you and when i eventualy got my HD2 I wished I had done it sooner. It is the ultimate in customisation have broken the first one my fault i had to buy a replacement straight away that was a month ago . I didnt even consider any other phone. Just try to get a good price and see who has got one here it is international here look at the signatures
Mark
If you're in the US, try cowboom. I just bought a used one from there for $130US. the price increased to $140 a day later.
2 minor scratches on top. Buttons look worn out only if you look at it very closely. otherwise, it looks perfectly fine. I put WP7 on it and it's amazing. Also works a zune player (similar interface). runs as smooth if not smoother than my brand new htc sensation with android.
So after 2 android phones I have gone to wp8,and honestly the deal breaker was the nexus 4 availability fiasco. Did some reading,and went to the T-Mobile store, and opted for a Nokia 810. Was pleasantly surprised when I used the phone at how fast it operated, also you don't have to hack the phone to remove bloat, anything loaded to the phone by tmobile can just be uninstalled.
still have the old g2 as a backup but I'm really enjoying wp8 for the moment.
danow11 said:
So after 2 android phones I have gone to wp8,and honestly the deal breaker was the nexus 4 availability fiasco. Did some reading,and went to the T-Mobile store, and opted for a Nokia 810. Was pleasantly surprised when I used the phone at how fast it operated, also you don't have to hack the phone to remove bloat, anything loaded to the phone by tmobile can just be uninstalled.
still have the old g2 as a backup but I'm really enjoying wp8 for the moment.
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To be fair, you're running a Windows phone. Windows lets you do whatever you want to do right out of the box (which explains why it's prone to virus infestations). Android, on the other hand, is Linux-based and...well, I explained it here two years ago.
I'm not knocking android, just nothing some of the differences i'm noticing immediately that I am finding to be nice. Downside is I have to pay 5$ a month for wifi tethering because nobody has created a work around yet.
I'm not planning on installing any virus's on my phone lol, didn't have virus protection on android and i don't plan on using it on this phone. That issue all together is more about common sense I believe.
How's the development community for it here on xda?
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danow11 said:
So after 2 android phones I have gone to wp8,and honestly the deal breaker was the nexus 4 availability fiasco. Did some reading,and went to the T-Mobile store, and opted for a Nokia 810. Was pleasantly surprised when I used the phone at how fast it operated, also you don't have to hack the phone to remove bloat, anything loaded to the phone by tmobile can just be uninstalled.
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Availability "fiasco"????
Because THAT SPECIFIC device is priced experimentally, you ran to an inferior platform? Seems extreme... there are lots of Android devices available.
Nexus 4 is an interesting situation. Google is breaking the rules with it, direct sales with a previously unimaginably low price. It is bound to have some seriously high demand.
Now your typical sales process works like this; you price the device relative to the demand that you expect. Increasing a device's price will have the effect of lowering demand for that device. Google could go ahead and price it $150-$200 higher. This would probably balance (approximately) the demand with the supply, so you would be able to get one if you wanted to. But instead, they're running an experiment and trying to impose a lower price level on the entire smartphone market.
Now you can bet that there are a lot of people figuring that they'll wait for availability and then buy it at that nice low price of $300. Other people are going to the various service providers, and demanding a better price for things that they're selling, based on their now lowered value perceptions. Carrier doesn't yield, customer walks. At least some of them do. Now the phone that I ended up purchasing was reduced in price TWICE, most probably as a direct response to Nexus 4. It was as high as $550, was reduced to $500, and then again to $400. Now I perceive the value of this one (samsung relay) as greater than nexus 4, because of the keyboard and external storage, which is why I was happy to pay the extra $100. I wouldn't have paid an extra $250 though.
So the question I ask myself is this; IF tmobile had kept the price at $550, what would I have done? The answer is this; I would have gone to nexus 4, and probably wouldn't have one yet. I'm OK with waiting. Not like the old phone didn't work any more.