Hey guys, I just got my 8525 a week ago, I'm still trying to get used to it. Overall i think i like it more then my TREO650 but i have one problem, i cant stand the small power button on the side. Most of the time i push it i push the slide keyboard out too, its so small i can never find it.
My old Treo650 had the power button and locking keys on the END button, when i push END it would lock and turn off the screen, to Unlock i would push END again and then the Center button. Is there any way to re-assign the Power button on the 8525 to be like my old Treo650?
Any suggestions guys. I am having the same problem with small power button
DAFTEK said:
its so small i can never find it.
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sounds like a personal problem, maybe see a doctor?
On a serious note.. i dont think it can be reprogrammed via the software, i believe the power button is actually mapped via hardware since it is used for functions like putting the phone into bootloader mode, etc.. i could be wrong though.
Hey thanks for the reply although its my phone with the small problem I have tried two programs on the forum here called Devicelock.cab but that only locks the device but you still have to push power to power the phone back up.
I believe the power key can be reprogrammed in one or two highly invasive ways.
However, it doesn't sound like you want to re-assign the power key, but to assign the power off function to another key. Is that correct? That's easy/
If you want to assign the power on function, that is more complicated, but there are work arounds.
V
I agree with the original poster. The small power on/off button is poor design. When I want to place a call, I first need to turn the device on by hitting that very small button. Then I need to activate the phone app or invoke MS voice command. It's just plain poor design. I love my 8525, but it could be so much better if the product designers at HTC actually thought about the ergonomics of the tasks users do the most.
One more gripe. The phone app is atrocious. Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu. This is annoying for a phone and a better design could mitigate the poor usability. I/m not an iPhone fanboy but take a look at the thought Apple put in there *first* phone and it is quite illuminating on the state of PPC phones.
r111 said:
[...]Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu[...]
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You could try scrollwheel up or D-pad up for recent call list .
(also down for speed-dials).
Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.
ovidiugm said:
Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.
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The original poster could - while in a call - try pressing the green button for two or three seconds.
I think it's even mentioned in the manual...
Cheers
Daniel
Hello.
I agree with the previous posters. The badly placed powerOn button is "bad design". If anyone finds the sollution (to PowerON the device using another key) please share it!
Otherwise, this is a great device. A true pocket computer
Best regards, jZ
+1 for the poor design.
I always hit the power button as I am pulling it out of the case when a call comes in, that turns off the screen, then I have to hit it again to see who is calling, and with all that going on as well as the ringer, the phone has a minor anurism and delays in answering.....
So to summarise the poor design aspect of this thread:
1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
Conclusion, it's just about right then!!
You can't please all of the people all of the time.
Mike
1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
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Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V
vijay555 said:
Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V
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unfortunately i can operate my wife's buttons even when i dont want to.. talk about poor design )
Lol, Shogun, remind us again how many kids you have?
Ok, some Opus Dei style self flagellation for the errant moderators going off topic.
Is this issue now resolved?
V
I can also operate my wifes buttons just fine as well but all i want is to find out if i can move the power button to maybe the PPT button or END when holding it.
Daftek, again, do you want to emulate the power key functionality, (ie on/off) on another key, and/or entirely disable the original power key?
V
Thats what I would like to do......
Hello.
I think we'd all like to assign a DIFFERENT KEY to POWER ON function. POWER OFF is no problem, because a button for this can be assigned through "Buttons". When the phone is in "sleep mode", only the POWER button can wake it.
Any solutions?
Regards, jZ
IMHO, it's possible but not easily.
Easiest work around is to disable button locking, so that pressing any button can wake the device, and then use a software lock to timeout/power off if you happen to poke a hardware button while it's in your pocket.
Alternatively you could rewrite the button driver, but it's possible (although I've not looked into it definitively) that the hardware power button is a hardware interrupt to the CPU. In which case a software based solution will not override a hardware based connection.
V
This is what I did...
I totally agree the power button is a pain, the size, placement...
I know this sounds a bit weird but I took a small piece of plastic (actually from a toothpick) and crazy glued it on the button. It works great! I never miss the button anymore! See picture...
I just bought a used hd2 yesterday, and it came with magldr with ultimate droid rom 3.3. I found out that none of the physical button acts as a Menu and Back button which makes navigation and menu access very hard. I even changed roms but still same thingn
My question is, is hd2 don't map physical keys as menu and back? Or is my unit actually defective? All the buttons work though, only that the Window and Home button does the same thing while Back and End button turns off the screen.
Thanks in advance!
Update: I have manage to get the menu (window) button working, but the back button is more trickier.. it seems thatt the physical button is actually pressing other keys.. in this case when I pressed the Window button for menu.. it will actually press the Home button which will bring me back to home screen. And for the back button, its actually pressing the End button, although I did manage to get it to press its back button, but its quite difficult. Does anyone knows how to fix this?
reply back button
I think that u may have a faulty back button or that dirt got under it thefe are guides on here xda that show u how to fix back button etc but it requires you taking phone apart and you need to read guides totally and follow steps there are also guides on youtube as well. It also sounds that the buttons might have been remapped there is an app called button remapper that allows you to change what the physical buttons do like the phone button back button etc do in other words you can change what every physical button on your hd2 does like for example the volume keys you would be able to change to back button etc. Read about button remapper on google before attempting to use app hope this helps you.
That's a common issue in the HD2, probably your device is defective.
Don't bother with the warranty, replacement and all that stuff since the back and menu aren't required for flashing or entering bootloader mode.
Just download "zMooth" app from market. (Pro version will give you End & Search)
I would prefer fixing the physical keys as they are important functions that is required in order to navigate around. Any links to how to fix the buttons? I think they are just misaligned because of prolong usage. Because multiple tries proves that it can still work.
Update: I have seen the official tutorial video for disassmbling the HD2, to just replace the keypad flex ribbon requires one to go very deep inside the phone before you can actually access the flex ribbon for the keypad. Now i am thinking twice to repair the physical button, let alone give an unofficial service guy to replace it.
@Marvlesz
I have installed zMooth, nice app.. but take some time getting used to. thanks!
or you can try a cm7 rom and use the tablet tweak soft keys in the options.
u can use button savior to replace all buttons .. it's a must have for me ..
Does anyone know if physical button problem such as mine are caused by the wear and tear of the flex cable or is it because of the plastic buttons itself?
the virtual buttons in toolbar
return home menu .
they often don't work.
when I pressed the button.
it has key down effects,but nothing happened.
why?
I'm sure the screen is well.
Try Button Savior from the Android market.
I initially thought that also but at least on my Fire it turns out that I needed to tap and hold the buttons. Just a fraction of a second but longer than just a tap. Once I got used to that things improved greatly. I have another Android tablet and phone and neither of these require the longer tap so I came to the Fire expecting the same behavior. Drove me crazy until I got the hang of the extra long tap. Actually since you have to keep holding a bit tap is not really correct but I'm not sure what word to use.
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ags29 said:
Try Button Savior from the Android market.
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I'll try it.
hope it can work.
Just wanted to know if there is a way to make it so when you push the power button your nook will boot up (or lesson the time needed to hold in). It seems like I have to push really hard and long for anything to happen. I already know you can remap the keys to something else, but haven't seen anything on this idea.
Typically I have to hold in on the power button for 3-5 seconds to power on the Nook. This is because the short press is used for sleep/wake. It would be bad if you were trying to put the device to sleep and ended up rebooting. You can remap the keys but I don't know how without researching the subject.
Reige1 said:
Just wanted to know if there is a way to make it so when you push the power button your nook will boot up (or lesson the time needed to hold in). It seems like I have to push really hard and long for anything to happen. I already know you can remap the keys to something else, but haven't seen anything on this idea.
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Haven't seen of anyone remapping the Power Button. Pretty vital button IMO. But I've noticed the longer you have the NC the likelihood of it wearing a bit increases. I have to hold mine down a while...sometimes even pressing it twice. You have to realize that the internal components aren't made to last forever so I'd suggest go light when pressing. Granted, I've had my original over a year and have no clue how many times I've flashed it so I do expect mine to wear out one day.
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Haven't seen of anyone remapping the Power Button. Pretty vital button IMO. But I've noticed the longer you have the NC the likelihood of it wearing a bit increases. I have to hold mine down a while...sometimes even pressing it twice. You have to realize that the internal components aren't made to last forever so I'd suggest go light when pressing. Granted, I've had my original over a year and have no clue how many times I've flashed it so I do expect mine to wear out one day.
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That's the reason why I wanted to know if it's possible to decrease the time it takes to hold it down. I've only had my nook for couple weeks now but I want to last for as long as possible.
Are there any apps i can dl from the play store or a mod i can flash to make my life easier ? holding the power and home button maybe works 2 out of 10 tries.
Little Bigboy said:
Are there any apps i can dl from the play store or a mod i can flash to make my life easier ? holding the power and home button maybe works 2 out of 10 tries.
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If you're on stock TW, you can enable palm gestures and swipe from left to right. If you're on a custom ROM, chances are there is an option to add "take screenshot" to the extended power menu accessed by holding the power button.
Try this
In my experience you have to hold the buttons for a second or two; it's not a quick "click" -- it's a press, hold, release.
Power Button + Home button works for me 99% of the time. Just make sure to press them at the exact same time and hold until it takes the screenshot...
The wave your palm over the phone gesture is the one that sucks, in my opinion. That one works less than 50% of the time for me and I see no reason to ever enable it when you can just press Power Button + Home easily...
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Power Button + Home button works for me 99% of the time. Just make sure to press them at the exact same time and hold until it takes the screenshot...
The wave your palm over the phone gesture is the one that sucks, in my opinion. That one works less than 50% of the time for me and I see no reason to ever enable it when you can just press Power Button + Home easily...
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Agreed. When I swipe to take a screenshot, many times it changes the page and then takes the pic! Maybe I just need to perfect my technique. When I do the power/home button trick, I make sure to press the power button just before I hit the home button and that seems to work well for me.
jeffreii said:
Power Button + Home button works for me 99% of the time. Just make sure to press them at the exact same time and hold until it takes the screenshot...
The wave your palm over the phone gesture is the one that sucks, in my opinion. That one works less than 50% of the time for me and I see no reason to ever enable it when you can just press Power Button + Home easily...
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I agree - anytime the palm swipe has worked for me is if my phone is laying on a flat surface, the screen is completely clean and i really focus on setting my hand on the edge and quickly swiping. Most times I just turn the page or move the screen.
Holding Home + Power Button is the way to go.
If may work better for anyone having trouble with the button method if you hold the power button with your left hand and the home with your right simultaneously. That's the only way my girlfriend can do it.
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Power Button + Home button works for me 99% of the time. Just make sure to press them at the exact same time and hold until it takes the screenshot...
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+1 ... unless one or both of your buttons have issues with their contacts.
Home and power button is the easiest ever, you must have issues with your buttons...
Little Bigboy said:
Are there any apps i can dl from the play store or a mod i can flash to make my life easier ? holding the power and home button maybe works 2 out of 10 tries.
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Use AOKP ROM...its power+volume down
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