[Q] Modify Blueooth Stack for Satnav Behaviour - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Hi all,
I own a Bluetooth system for my bike helmet called Scala Rider. The system is designed to be able to connect to a mobile phone and a satnav simultaneously, however I use my HTC HD2 with WM65 as a TomTom only device, and I use my HTC HD7 with WP7 as my phone and A2DP audio source.
Unfortunatly, the helmet system doesn't work properly for me because it see's both devices as phones.
Is there any way that I could modify the Bluetooth stack on the WM65 phone to emulate the behaviour and operation modes of a TomTom satnav so that the helmet system will allow me to operate both devices together?
Thanks
Richard

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CC9060 Software is already the latest: 1.74
I found these checked bluetooth options:
Wireless Stereo
Hands Free
I'll give that a try and uncheck Wireless Stereo!
Do you already know, that bury will release an actice cradle for the Touch HD in June/July 2009! Then I am able to load the battery while driving.
Update:
With unchecking bluetooth stereo, the navi software uses the phone speakers, whereas it is connected to the CC9060.
But there are still two disadvantages:
- Radio ist not muted when a call comes in.
- Not as loud as the car speakers
I've written to bury and they've answered me the same:
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What is the reason, that Nokia devices where able to transmit the navigation commnands over the car speakers?
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Damn! Is it the handy operating system or the handy-brand?
As you mentioned already your symbian device is doing it right. But the WM6.1 device fails!
Maybe I should test it with the new omnia HD (also symbian OS) if it works!
Please report back if you find ourt anything more, I am sure it must be possible maybe with a reg tweak.
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At the moment I don't see any possibilities to get that to work.
The manufacturer of the my new bluetooth car kit (bury) said, that it is very seldom, that a mobile phone sends navigation commands to the carkit. They are also not testing this feature, when they are adding a mobile phone to their supported phones list.
Should't a carkit in handsfree mode work as a headset?
Even Parrot was unable to say which device is generally sending every sound to the their carkit. But they said, that their carkit is reacting on EVERY activity from the mobile phone, when it is in handsfree mode.
We need more feedback from carkit / navigations users to finde the weak point!
Hi Pal
Just been reading about vjvolubilis and btmusic and some diamond users have managed to make it work. I have just installed it and will try it out on the way home tonight.
Sully
hungabunga said:
Hi Pal
vjvolubilis and btmusic
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So those are the right apps? Are they free and maybe also available here?
I could test them, too.
they are free to use, i had some success with vjvoubilis. it worked but kept muting the stereo even though there were no commands from tomtom. for btmusic you need .net
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btmusic wants to have 2.0. But in my Rom .net 3.5 is already included. Does it work with you?
EDIT: After installing v2.0 via activesync btmusic starts but then a message "license expired 01/09/2008" appears.
I had to download .net 2 to make it work, the phone still works fine after installing version 2 and I am running duttys 2.7rom. Link for .net2 found on this page under requirments http://maxmobilesoft.com/index.php/software/btmusic
Sully
I thought in v3.5 v2 is icluded.
Get it to work now, too. But:
How did you solve the license expired message? Setting back the system language is starting the programm but not a solution for always.
use the link I provided above, you have to register to download but that version doesn't have licence problem.
Sully
Thanks a lot, but I've registered now, too. The app works.
But I am to tired to walk down to the car and test it. Maybe in a few hours after sleeping for a while.
go to sleep man and check it in the morning, there is no rush.
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