Not all good news. But have a read of this:
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=5915
Shame about the poor BT performance
Do you have the AK2 kit for the XDA Exec then?
No, I was referring to the link. An employee of O2 has undertaken extensive testing and the news for 3G users using push email is not good (kills the battery!)
which means that if this employee is usin it on his exec, it should be ready and we can expect to see it soon right?
hmm but if there is A2DP and it only works over WMP, does that mean we still cant use Skype through a wireless headset?
I use skype through my bluetooth headset with no problem. It is not a stereo headset, but it works perfectly. If you wish to know how to do this, and you have a normal non-stereo headset, pm me for simple instructions - or I can post them here. I did not realize people were having a problem.
I use skype through my bluetooth headset with no problem. It is not a stereo headset, but it works perfectly. If you wish to know how to do this, and you have a normal non-stereo headset, pm me for simple instructions - or I can post them here.
Don't see much difference between this and checking email automatically every 15 minutes. I suppose the new AKU2 method might be easier on data overhead though, albeit heavier on battery.
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I use skype through my bluetooth headset with no problem. It is not a stereo headset, but it works perfectly. If you wish to know how to do this, and you have a normal non-stereo headset, pm me for simple instructions - or I can post them here.
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i know that tweak too that allows me to use the headset for skype but its not stereo.
i thought with the AKU2, we would be able to do it.
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chetccox said:
I use skype through my bluetooth headset with no problem. It is not a stereo headset, but it works perfectly. If you wish to know how to do this, and you have a normal non-stereo headset, pm me for simple instructions - or I can post them here.
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i know that tweak too that allows me to use the headset for skype but its not stereo.
i thought with the AKU2, we would be able to do it.
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mind sharing that tweat with us too????
I have skype installed on my qtek 9000, and wanted to be able to use it from my bluetooth headset (Jabra 250). I started skype from the qtek screen, and of course could not get the bluetooth audio to stay on for more than a few seconds. The cyberon voice dialer keeps starting up, and as soon as it is through waiting for sound, it shuts down and so does the bluetooth headset audio. I happened to create a voice tag to start skype, and made a 100% repeatable discovery. If I start skype from the headset, I have continuous audio. Even if I shut skype down in memory, running programs, the audio continues in the headset. This also means you can listen to mp3 files etc. on the headset until you push the headset button to turn off the audio lock. If I start skype from the qtek screen, this does not happen. Once I have the continuous audio connection, a simple press of the headset button reverts all to normal. Setup the voice tag in settings, voice speed dial, applications. Choose skype, and setup whatever tag you wish.
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No, I was referring to the link. An employee of O2 has undertaken extensive testing and the news for 3G users using push email is not good (kills the battery!)
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He's an ex-O2 employee. We have to make it clear because there's no link to the company.
jah said:
Not all good news. But have a read of this:
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=5915
Shame about the poor BT performance
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Not flaming you Jah, just the writer of this review
My first post and not flaming
But I cant see how push email will be any more battery and data consuming that having the device set to sync every 10 mins. I have mine set to that and I use about 20 - 25 mb a month and I view webpages.
I think it will be a big leap forward
2 other things that a totally incorrect about the review
The Messaging and Security Feature Pack adds some new features to the administrator’s arsenal, including Force Password, Password Reset and Device Reset. The first two are fairly obvious, but the third is an option to force the device to hard-reset to factory condition, in the event the device is lost or stolen. Note this feature doesn’t extend to any Storage folder on the device or an SD Card in the expansion slot.
Wrong, The remote wipe carrys out a clear storage and this will also clear the entire device. Granted the storage card wont be, but I am sure this will be resolved in future updates
The bigger question is the impact on Server performance a fleet of mobile devices constantly synchronising with it will have. Servers tend to be resource hungry at the best of times, and this will add to the load. More to come as live installations occur and people get stuck in – but Exchange Server 2003 SP2 is already known to require more power than earlier versions to run effectively.
I am sure normal syncs cause this and if you are running exchange you will have a system to cope with this
I think time will tell, but a think a real rival for RIM
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jah said:
Not all good news. But have a read of this:
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=5915
Shame about the poor BT performance
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Not flaming you Jah, just the writer of this review
My first post and not flaming
But I cant see how push email will be any more battery and data consuming that having the device set to sync every 10 mins. I have mine set to that and I use about 20 - 25 mb a month and I view webpages.
I think it will be a big leap forward
2 other things that a totally incorrect about the review
The Messaging and Security Feature Pack adds some new features to the administrator’s arsenal, including Force Password, Password Reset and Device Reset. The first two are fairly obvious, but the third is an option to force the device to hard-reset to factory condition, in the event the device is lost or stolen. Note this feature doesn’t extend to any Storage folder on the device or an SD Card in the expansion slot.
Wrong, The remote wipe carrys out a clear storage and this will also clear the entire device. Granted the storage card wont be, but I am sure this will be resolved in future updates
The bigger question is the impact on Server performance a fleet of mobile devices constantly synchronising with it will have. Servers tend to be resource hungry at the best of times, and this will add to the load. More to come as live installations occur and people get stuck in – but Exchange Server 2003 SP2 is already known to require more power than earlier versions to run effectively.
I am sure normal syncs cause this and if you are running exchange you will have a system to cope with this
I think time will tell, but a think a real rival for RIM
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You're probably right. But it's early days isn't it.... hardly anyone has seen this software in a commercial environment, and the way people deploy exchange server can vary from company to company. I also don't think there are many companies (except Microsoft) who have large ActiveSync deployments sucking on the exchange server now, so it's hard to tell what could happen.
The interesting thing is that EVERYBODY will have work to do, not just O2. Orange, Vodafone, T-Mobile, I-Mate and so on - lots of keen people, lots of opportunities to tweak and get things write.
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jah said:
Not all good news. But have a read of this:
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=5915
Shame about the poor BT performance
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But I cant see how push email will be any more battery and data consuming that having the device set to sync every 10 mins. I have mine set to that and I use about 20 - 25 mb a month and I view webpages.
I think it will be a big leap forward
2 other things that a totally incorrect about the review
The Messaging and Security Feature Pack adds some new features to the administrator’s arsenal, including Force Password, Password Reset and Device Reset. The first two are fairly obvious, but the third is an option to force the device to hard-reset to factory condition, in the event the device is lost or stolen. Note this feature doesn’t extend to any Storage folder on the device or an SD Card in the expansion slot.
Wrong, The remote wipe carrys out a clear storage and this will also clear the entire device. Granted the storage card wont be, but I am sure this will be resolved in future updates
The bigger question is the impact on Server performance a fleet of mobile devices constantly synchronising with it will have. Servers tend to be resource hungry at the best of times, and this will add to the load. More to come as live installations occur and people get stuck in – but Exchange Server 2003 SP2 is already known to require more power than earlier versions to run effectively.
I am sure normal syncs cause this and if you are running exchange you will have a system to cope with this
I think time will tell, but a think a real rival for RIM
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I am not the one who wrote the review, but some clarifications:
1.When MSFP initiates the sync cycle it will open an HTTPS connection to the server, with a long timeout. This means that regardless of traffic, the radio will always be transmitting and receiving. This is very different from your 10 minutes sync cycle, where the radio only transmits during that time.
2.The remote wipe does a clear storage as you state, and as you agreed the storage card is not erased. I can't see why you disagree on this then?
3.Server performance may be impacted because of the way the sync works. When the direct push is in use the HTTPS connection is initiated and the server is notified by the device of the current list of folders to be monitored. If any changes happen during the HTTPS connection availability this is immediately notified to the device and a synchronisation of that folder only happens. The extra load comes from the fact that the Exchange Server now has continuously monitor each folder, while an on-demand ActiveSync on a 10 minutes cycle does not require this monitoring to be on.
By the way, edited the article to have my explanations 1 and 3 added to the appropriate sections.
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... hardly anyone has seen this software in a commercial environment, and the way people deploy exchange server can vary from company to company. I also don't think there are many companies (except Microsoft) who have large ActiveSync deployments sucking on the exchange server now, so it's hard to tell what could happen.
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Almost true. There are lots of companies with large deployments. I used to work for a multinational company with 40,000 employees, using an Exchange Server infrastructure around the world. And I was in a push email trial (using Intellisync) back in 2004. This just to show that this is not a new concept, and companies have been working on this for some time now...
freitasm, I always assumed that direct push events would be generated by MTA events for a given users, rather than some sort of polling of users mailbox fodlers? It would seem a little more efficent this way? I'm guessing tho!
Probably it is because it would be better. I am not aware of the actual implementation - the events are only fired for the specific folders involved in the synchronisation, so some filtering is going on, which requires some processing anyway.
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ratclj01 said:
jah said:
Not all good news. But have a read of this:
2 other things that a totally incorrect about the review
The Messaging and Security Feature Pack adds some new features to the administrator’s arsenal, including Force Password, Password Reset and Device Reset. The first two are fairly obvious, but the third is an option to force the device to hard-reset to factory condition, in the event the device is lost or stolen.
Note this feature doesn’t extend to any Storage folder on the device or an SD Card in the expansion slot.
Wrong, The remote wipe carrys out a clear storage and this will also clear the entire device. Granted the storage card wont be, but I am sure this will be resolved in future updates
I am not the one who wrote the review, but some clarifications:
1.When MSFP initiates the sync cycle it will open an HTTPS connection to the server, with a long timeout. This means that regardless of traffic, the radio will always be transmitting and receiving. This is very different from your 10 minutes sync cycle, where the radio only transmits during that time.
2.The remote wipe does a clear storage as you state, and as you agreed the storage card is not erased. I can't see why you disagree on this then?
3.Server performance may be impacted because of the way the sync works. When the direct push is in use the HTTPS connection is initiated and the server is notified by the device of the current list of folders to be monitored. If any changes happen during the HTTPS connection availability this is immediately notified to the device and a synchronisation of that folder only happens. The extra load comes from the fact that the Exchange Server now has continuously monitor each folder, while an on-demand ActiveSync on a 10 minutes cycle does not require this monitoring to be on.
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with reference to your point 2
The author states that a remote wipe WILL NOT clear the folders on the device and I am pointing out that the wipe will clear the entire device. That is the bit I was saying was incorrect
With reference to your point 3
I am currently running Exchange Server 2003 with SP2 and the option for push email is already there and switched on. The monitoring of the folders needs to be happening regardless of push email supported devices because even if you connecting via push or set cycles the folders need to stay current regardless and the moment any change is made the exchange server needs to react and alter the folders on the server. To think that the exchange server does not monitor constantly just because MSFP device is not attached is silly. How would a user connecting though the web intereface stay current if monitoring was not enabled in the same way.
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I am currently running Exchange Server 2003 with SP2 and the option for push email is already there and switched on. The monitoring of the folders needs to be happening regardless of push email supported devices because even if you connecting via push or set cycles the folders need to stay current regardless and the moment any change is made the exchange server needs to react and alter the folders on the server. To think that the exchange server does not monitor constantly just because MSFP device is not attached is silly. How would a user connecting though the web intereface stay current if monitoring was not enabled in the same way.
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On Direct Push a HTTPS connection with a long timeout (determined by the server Timeout parameter) is established and kept alive. To reduce traffic and data charges the connection is not used until items are ready to sync. And to prevent unnecessary data usage only changed folders are synchronised. The monitoring is on the server side, and only on folders that are set to be monitored when the connection is established. This is the initial traffic - more folders more traffic.
http://blogs.technet.com/exchange/archive/2005/06/07/406035.aspx
When doing the manual ActiveSync the whole structure is synchronised, folder by folder and the traffic is higher, but the process is longer. The server is only participant during the ActiveSync, with no monitoring happening. When this type of sync starts each folder's content are compared with the current status on the Exchange Server at the time. The server does not store status on individual item if there's no direct push involved.
Are there any networking applications that would allow seamless switches between Wifi and GPRS/Edge?
It would be nice to be able to have a GPRS connection on the way into work, perahps streaming internet radio and then to have the network connection detect the Wifi and then switch. I suppose you would have to preconfigure your device with a list of access points, but considering that most of us use our devices at work and home, that should be easy to setup.
Or am I asking for something technically difficult to do?
YEs, Yes you can, but it maybe more trouble than its worth..
Its possible, Im not sure how "seemless" the transistion is going to be. First, you need to turn your Wifi slider to Performance so wifi radio stays on and scans while the PDA is sleeping. Then you need to add the SSID's (and WEP keys if applicable) of all the access points you intend to switch between. Having done this, you're going to need a huge battery, because leaving wifi on on this mode usually only yields about 3 - 3.5 hours of battery life. In addition, your GPRS radio is running so your battery life will be consumed slighly faster. With this configuration I have my work private network access points (3 for the different departments). My home wifi AP, and a few hotspots that I frequent in the evenings. When wifi is on, I can walk between any of these locations and the pda will automatically connect me to the present network. The downside to this is that every time I pass another visisble hotspot, the Universal chimes and wakes up to alert me to the new connection options. I also recommend doing the 802.11G hack for more compatibility (no speed improvement). Hope this helps.
Really seamless handover between GPRS and WIFI is not really possible without some firmware/radio stack changes. As long as you can put up with a second or two of data interruption there might be an 'seamless enough' solution in software (i haven't found one though).
There are some new phones which can do this handover for the voice channel (so called 'UMA' phones) but even then I have only seen the handover work seamlessly one way (wifi-to-gsm) in practice.
I can't see MS adding UMA support for some time (Motorola and Nokia have some phones that do this already). It nay be that a 3rd party adds UMA support but it won't be great as it needs to be embedded in the OS for best usability.
Google "UMA mobile phones" for more info.
It is possible to have seamless handover between GPRS and WIFI without firmware/radio stack changes ! The technigue is Mobile IP. But the provider would support/provide it or you have your own Home Agent server ( like proxy server)
You have only one IP address and your connection session is never abrupt during WIFI <-> UMTS Handover.
The other problem is GPRS/UMTS connection-hooking on MS Windows CE !
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Is there a kind of utility that if a connection is required, asks user how to connect? Something like there use to be on a PC, when You start IE? I don't remember which version of IE/Windows it was but it looks something like this - http://support.bee.net/dial/email/outlook6.gif
The problem is, selecting manually how to connect is very much pain in the ass, I am wondering that if there isn't a software already written for this, why is that. It would be a simple yet very usable - You start IE for example, and the phone asks you how to connect, via WLAN or GPRS or whatever. OR maybe even over BT if You have a BT device for connection over PC or smth.
The second option would be to prioritize the connection list - like tell the PDA that first try WLAN, if it fails then try GPRS etc.
The third option would be somehow to use MortScript for this. It's still better than going to Connection Manager through tens of taps.
Been searching the forums. Looked through at least all threads' titles under networking. But no solution so far.
Any ideas? I would appreciate any help. And still wondering why someone hasn't already solved this... Maybe they have, but cannot find it then
So nobody has ever heard of anything like this? Would there be an enthusiast who would program such utility? It would not be a major application...
How do you manually choose connection?
I have HTC Diamond with Windows Mobile 6. I connect it to my work computer to synchronise with Outlook but I want to use my 3G (or GPRS) connection for internet. What should I do?
i really dislike the way the WM6 autoamatically chooses GPRS has its first connection type.. but then if WIFI is turned off it has no choice
An option to possible enable Wifi rather than GPRS would be nice
Windows mobile's connection manager is horrible. I suspect the group assigned to WM networking at microsoft had little (or no) prior experience and didn't really understand how IP routing, interface stacking, etc. works.
We sorely need some kind of end-to-end communications manager that is aware of all network devices (GPRS, CF wireless/ethernet cards, onboard wireless, bluetooth, USB, etc) and virtual devices (all forms of VPN), and how they interoperate. Something that allows editing of routing rules, per-connection DNS servers, gateway priorities, preferred devices, timeouts, connection persistence, etc.
Worry about things like "dial-on-demand" after the basics are covered.
Today it's virtually impossible to keep a WM device on a VPN connection and even harder when you've got phone calls and wifi to deal with. I have my activesync configured through a PPTP VPN and at least 5 times a day it loses its connection and requires me to manually press "sync." Sometimes that doesn't even work, requiring a reboot. Usually there will be some vague and unhelpful error message like "waiting for network" or "could not connect for an unknown reason."
In fact while I'm on a bit of a rant, is anyone else infuriated by error messages like that?
Obviously there was an error - you don't need to tell the user that. If there was no error, you'd be connected! What is the purpose of telling the user there was an error? There is always an "error" unless there is success. TELL THE USER WHAT THE ERROR WAS. Anything else is useless and frustrating.
The device should also absolutely freak out if it ever loses any connection. If the phone loses anything.. the GSM signal, activesync's connection to the exchange server, the VPN... it should beep, vibrate, flash, and refuse to do anything (sleep, power off, etc) until either one of two conditions is true:
1. The error is no longer present (the phone was able to reestablish the connection), or
2. The user has acknowledged and dismissed the error.
It should never be the case that the phone is disconnected and not attempting to reconnect, unless the user chooses that mode of operation. Anything else leads to lost email, missed meetings, and high blood pressure.
Ugh.
Anyway, I think there's a lot of money to be made by a company that can put together a properly functioning WM connection management system. I'm still looking...
This might help, I've not tried it yet but it looks promising....
http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/ppcstuff.htm#MobileProfiler
That is a much needed program. WM 6.1 does an awful job with GPRS, WiFi,
Phone, etc.
Thanks joemanb, somehow I missed Your reply. But this isn't exactly what I'm looking for. But thanks anyway. I understand that this proggy would be very useful for many people but I don't understand why somebody with programming skills doesn't want to do it...
I have the very same problem.
I have both symbian and WM phones.
Nokia have had this right since my 9500 when you check email or go on the Internet it prompts you for the connection to use. I got a Imate-Kjam and was shocked that it did not do this. It was subsequently replaced with a E90 that still does it the right way and very well. I just got a Samsung SGH-i780 and it is great but it still has no Idea of how to connect to the Internet the way I would like. having 3g makes it less of a problem as I simply don't use the wi-fi but this bugs me that I can't.
All they need to do is have the phone prompt you when you open a Internet app for the connection to use. How hard can that be to realize ?
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Um... Bump?
Come on developers, You cannot say You don't miss something like that already...
Bandswitch
I hope too in the developers. While waiting I found "Bandswitch" which make something similar...
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-bandswitch-v1-2-3.html
Disable GPRS connections
Try this. Works fine on my Herald/P4350.
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility/
Thanks for the suggestions but as far as I can tell, these apps only handle mobile data connections and now Wi-Fi. You can easily disable GPRS by creating a fake GPRS connection with no real access point. That is not what I am trying to accomplish here. But thanks anyway.
I am experiencing a couple of annoying issues with my new HTC HD2. Most of which seems to have coincided with my old O2 number being ported over to T-Mobile. Prior to this I had a temporary number and all settings seemed to work ok (although frankly I cannot recall to be sure). Once the number was ported everything went a bit mental, I could not connect to any internet app via Wi-Fi and various searches boiled this down to an erroneous proxy server setting which once removed resolved my problem. I also had an email issue which I partially resolved by deleting my account and setting it up again from scratch. The two issues I am now left with are a bit odd.
When connected via Wi-Fi neither ie6 nor email will connect - it seems to be that neither of these applications will fallback to wi-fi if there is no mobile coverage/connectivity. To clarify, I have deliberately turned my phone radio off to test it purely with wi-fi - with both apps I get the "cannot connect" message where it prompts me to check that mobile service is available and I am not in flight mode etc. So clearly it is not willing to use wi-fi even though it is connected and I can use Opera with no issues - this does not seem to impact any other application. I wonder if there is a registry issue that is stopping them from using wifi.
I can get round this temporarily if I go into settings>all settings>connections>connections>advanced>select networks and then change "programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:" from "T-mobile Internet" to "My Work Network" however this only reverses the issue i.e. they then work with wi-fi but not on mobile internet (with the added issue that all other internet apps will no longer working on mobile internet) - so this is hardly a satisfactory resolution.
I have had a bash with various other settings but nothing seems to work - has anyone else experienced this issue?
is the option "the internet"available? that would make the app use whatever connection is available to the phone.
as far as the number being ported starting this I'd be tempted to backup and hard reset.let the phone pick up the sim with the new settings from fresh.
Thanks for the prompt response. I have checked other options and whilst there are others none of them are configured. The fact that other applications happily work under either wifi or mobile internet would seem to imply it is just these applications that are being a bit obtuse rather than any of the connectivity settings.
I guess I may have to hard reset - although I am not convinced that the SIM would govern connectivity settings of microsoft applications.
Just noticed QuickGPS does the same thing i.e. will only connect through mobile internet - it complains it cannot connect if I try through wi-fi only.
bl**dy hell - Google Maps does not work now either!!!!!!!!!
lol, one problem breeding others, it's a "feature" hehe.
Ok i'll shut up now.............did a hard reset and all seems good for the moment at least. Frankly I clearly should have bowed to your better judgement LOL
sometimes its the best first thing to try. once you have done a few they only take 20 30 minutes, you can spend hours with network problems.
We have a Windows box with a wifi dongle and we're having an issue when a customer with a GS4 running Android 4.3 connects to it. The connection and DHCP negotiation work correctly. Once that happens we begin pinging the phone twice per second*. The phone answers the pings for about 3 seconds, and then never answers a ping again. The phone screen is not turned off. The user hasn't left the mobile app, hasn't killed any tasks or anything like that. Does anyone have information on why the GS4 would stop responding to ping?
I've read that there are issues with this phone/OS *originating* ping - that is NOT the case here. The 'ping' command is never used on the phone. The phone is receiving pings.
Pings are not entirely blocked since it responds correctly for the first few seconds (though not quickly - usually well over 40ms).
This feels - wild guess, could be way off base - more like the GS4 has determined that these pings are some kind of attack and therefore decided to stop responding. Is there anything like that in there? I don't know who would know the internals.
We have not seen the issue with GS3 4.3. We don't currently have any other devices running 4.3, though there is one Galaxy Nexus which could be upgraded.
* Why? Two reasons.
1. The Realtek function which we can call on our computer to determine whether there are any wifi clients connected quite frequently returns false data, and Realtek won't help us. Thus ping is now our method of detecting when the user has walked away.
2. Some older phones (not GS4) are quite sluggish in the ensuing file transfers from our mobile app unless 'prodded' in this manner. We haven't figured out why. It's like they need to be kept awake at a sub-second level.
Some cases were nothing complicated - the phone was deciding that the quality of the wi-fi connection stank so it was switching back to 3g. Turning off Auto Network Switch in the phone's Wi-Fi / Advanced settings fixed that. Other cases continue to show the problem even with that switch disabled.