Thinking of upgrading to the GTI9020T - Nexus S General

I just saw that my local best buy is offering the nexus s for free with 2 year contract renewal. I have an htc aria now and really like the size it's is perfect and it's a great phone but with what appears to be the end of the road for cm7 and a lot of uncertainty about cm9 for the aria I was wondering what some of your opinions are about the nexus s. Things that stand out to me are that even though it has a 480x800 the phone still seems to be quite small in comparison to some of the other monsters out there the phone seems to be well supported here on xda. I know it only has 16gb of internal memory with no external sd card but that's not a deal breaker for me I have 16gb card now and am no where close to running out of space. I know the phone is older and does not have a duel processor or 4g but free is very tempting. Anyways I respect the opinion of many of you here so wanted some of your opinions.

its worth it, i love my NS, ICS is great as well. there are a tons of roms here, lots of support, i dont have any issues, battery is great too.

Do it. Trust me. I've never been happier with a phone.

E.Cadro said:
I just saw that my local best buy is offering the nexus s for free with 2 year contract renewal. I have an htc aria now and really like the size it's is perfect and it's a great phone but with what appears to be the end of the road for cm7 and a lot of uncertainty about cm9 for the aria I was wondering what some of your opinions are about the nexus s. Things that stand out to me are that even though it has a 480x800 the phone still seems to be quite small in comparison to some of the other monsters out there the phone seems to be well supported here on xda. I know it only has 16gb of internal memory with no external sd card but that's not a deal breaker for me I have 16gb card now and am no where close to running out of space. I know the phone is older and does not have a duel processor or 4g but free is very tempting. Anyways I respect the opinion of many of you here so wanted some of your opinions.
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Are you moving to T-Mobile or staying with AT&T?
The AT&T model is the i9020a.
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Ditto, great phone and tons of dev support.

By far the best phone I have ever owned, but get a good screen protector as it can scratch easily!

Thanks everyone for your input and yes staying with att best buy must have the wrong model number listed and as far as screen protectors I always have had inv. shield on just about every phone I've owned so that would be top of the list. So the phone is handling ics well I gather from your comments as well.
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Urr I wouldn't get a nexus s on a 2 year contract, in maybe a year this phone may become out dated, if you can get it get the GN
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ditto darkshadow.
Can't you get a GN or a G2 and pay a little for the handset or wait for a few months till these handsets are cheaper?
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Well the GN isn't available through att as far as I know and the g2 is a little pricy for me at 199 or 249 depending on the model. So maybe waiting to see if they come down in the next couple of months would be option. Thanks for your opinions.
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Not that I don't rate the NS or anything, I have just bought the phone and think its wicked. But the hardware is 16 months old already.
Is there no way you can get the NS on a 12 month contract but pay a little more each month, then in a year get the GN for free?
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Advice Regarding Moving on From My Nexus One

I've had my Nexus One since April, and right now after seeing the new Nexus S (which is some-what disappointing in terms of upgraded hardware) I've decided it's time to move on. I'd like to sell before the Nexus S comes out since I believe the price of the Nexus One will decrease. I'm currently considering the following: G2, Nexus S, Captivate, Galaxy S i9000, and Mytouch 4G. The problem I'm having is deciding, see I would really love to have a front facing camera which would come in handy for me but, the phones that offer it don't work with AT&T 3G (except the i9000). So, I would like to get a captivate or i9000, but I'm not really fond of the i9000's design nor either's Touchwiz & Samsung's updates. I would really love a G2, since I could easily sell my Nexus and buy one with money to spare in some occasions and it's a very attractive device with great build quality (except for that hinge issue), but again, no AT&T 3G and no FFC. The Mytouch has the FFC, and is a nice phone and all but probably the ugliest thing EVER in my opinion. The Nexus S has everything I want (except for AT&T 3g) but, I would probably have to shell out $100-$200 to get it. So, what I need is advice. If you were in my situation, which would you choose? Thanks!
move to tmobile?
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move to tmobile?
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Still in a contract for another year :/
if i was in your situation i would not sell for a couple reasons
u will get STRESSED going back to edge. i mean its ridiculously slow coming for a 3g one
In a couple months they will be releasing some kick ass phones..wait patiently ..regardless the n1 is already depreciated
You will be trading one of the most customizables phones for some that you are not sure if it ll get the same support
IF you sign up for tmobile you buy one g2 and get 1 free (just got an email about that)
Nexus s is quad band so what's the deal?
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Nexus s is quad band so what's the deal?
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Quad band GSM not HSPA
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I would suggest u either sell and wait some months with a dumb phone or sell later. Cuz no phone right now on the market is an upgrade
Zephyrs said:
I would really love a G2, since I could easily sell my Nexus and buy one with money to spare in some occasions and it's a very attractive device with great build quality (except for that hinge issue), but again, no AT&T 3G and no FFC
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Get a Desire Z from bell canada, unlock it, and that's your G2 with AT&T 3g support.
The one I am impatiently waiting for is the Motorola Olympus for at&t. They say q1 of 2011, which is just when my warranty is running out for the n1.
the nexus one is still one of the best phones currently out there. my opinion at least. i hope to keep this phone another year before i get another itch. til then i hope my N1 doesn't get any scratches.
I'm looking at the desire Z also for the next phone. I'd like the price to come a bit first though. I haven't found it for less than 650 yet.
Wait a month 2 c whats new in 2011...
Went from a Nexus to a G2 then back to a Nexus to make some extra cash to get rid of the keyboard.
Currently I traded my Nexus for a new Mytouch 4G.
It is a very fast phone, solid build, decent camera, and its 4G, not to mention it has some nice novelties like front facing camera and a hard button for the camera and 720p recording out of the box.
Alot of people complain about the UI but i havent seen much slowdown or problems with it. It's a pleasure to use and i have yet to remove the battery bc it froze.
I went from a Galaxy S to the N1.
The screen is definitely a BIG step up from the N1, both in responsiveness and quality.
The phone itself though, frustrating. Good hardware potentially but crippled by bad implementation. Out of the box they are laggy and unstable. The GPS is basically useless for anything other than telling you where you are at that point. Start moving about, and its gone. Then its the going into a coma for no apparent reason.
The N1 is probably just about a more dependable device. Not sure I'd go for the SGS over an N1.
I would try to get a dual core phone with vanilla android. So I recommend that you wait.
my advice is it sucks but you have to just wait for an ATT 3G version to come out. just wait for a nexus S with att 3g is your only choice. the nexus one is still awesome enough to ride it out for a bit longer.
RogerPodacter said:
my advice is it sucks but you have to just wait for an ATT 3G version to come out. just wait for a nexus S with att 3g is your only choice. the nexus one is still awesome enough to ride it out for a bit longer.
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Well, see im stuck in a dilemma. I can either a. sell my nexus one on eBay right now for $450 (offer I just got) and add $for a Nexus S OR b. wait it out. The only thing i'm afraid of is that the nexus's value goes down and when NS comes out everyones gonna be selling and their gonna be a dime a dozen....
SO, what do you guys think I should do? I have until tomorrow to decide to sell...
Personal finances are different for everyone. If U need the bread now for an upgrade, then sell at the best price.
I say wait it out. The Nexus one is going to get Gingerbread soon and the value wont depreciate as fast as you're afraid it will. In a couple of months it will be on a very small list of phones running Gingerbread and people will be willing to pay top dollar for it.
I'm in the same boat. I can upgrade right now but there's nothing on AT&T compelling enough to make me switch. Hopefully CES will give me something to look forward to. That LG Star is actually looking surprisingly good, as is the Olympus, and I definitely want Tegra2 on my next phone.
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Anyone else actually considering the Vibrant 4G?

I'm a serial phone swapper , but I'd have to say that the Vibrant (all GPS issues, the plasticy feel about it and lack of Samsung updates aside) was one of my favorite Android phones.
I'm seriously considering picking up the Vibrant 4G when it comes out. I love the screen, the call quality , and signal strength that it had. If this 2nd edition of the Vibrant lives up to those qualities of the first, I have no worries about picking one up!
Anyone else considering getting one?
If it was time for me to update on my contract I probably would.
I absolutely love this phone! Thankfully I've had no issues with GPS and honestly it doesn't feel as solid as my old G1 made by HTC. I only have a cheapy silicone case on it that I literally got for $3 from Japan thru ebay, and I've dropped it a few times from around 2-3 feet and the phone didn't miss a beat.
So even tho it feels light and cheap it def holds up, even with just a cheap case.
And yes , Samsung is horrible with the updates, but we've also found that it is also TMO's fault as well.
But IDC bout updates, we have the greatest devs giving us ROM's that make my phone feel literally 10 times faster and smoother than my g/f's stock Nexus S!
Also, I got a front facing camera from a buddy for $20. So My phone will be exactly like the 4G, aside from the fact of the 4G speeds of course.
i really was thinking about getting it and actually got as far as almost completin gmy ebay listing to sell my current vibrant before the price drops....but then i looked up some more details about the 4g and found out that it only has 1gb internal memory. Also, since the devs currently have vibrants, and the vibrant 4g isnt ThaT MUCh of an upgrade, i think they will stick with the current vibrant. So then the dev community will not be that strong for the 4g. Agreed, its an easy port between the two phones, but I personally have no idea how to do it and im pretty sure that all devs will be busy porting 2.3 etc to the current vibrant to pay much attention to the vibrant 4g....so im not jumping ship just yet
no
maybe when my 3g speeds max out everywhere i go, t-mobile lifts the 5gb throttle limit, or i actually find a use for a FFC. until then, i'm fine with the original
Not with Pyramid around the corner.
I figure by the time that the Pyramid comes out I'll be shopping around again LOL
I rather get nexus s...
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I am actually considering it, first i will see how far i get with customer loyalty(because my gps never truly worked on any rom), we've been with tmobile since voicestream(Probably won't matter to them anyways). If customer loyalty is willing to send a vibrant 4G at a reasonable price i will get it, if not i will wait for dual core. Honestly unless another manufacturer comes out with a super amoled+ display i don't see myself leaving samsung. They suck with updates but xda pushes out way better roms than stock.
My wife works for Tmobile so I'll be getting it She gets 3 free phones a year...so yeah
I won't be spending money on it, but I will be calling the customer loyalty department and finagling a free Vibrant 4G out of them for pulling a shenanigan like this.
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Not with Pyramid around the corner.
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My thought exactly.
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If i didnt have the vibrant now i would, but im just gonna wait til the N2 comes out
Maybe this will change your minds..
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/02/t-mobile-wins-msnbc-speed-contest-with-samsung-galaxy-s-4g/
Nuff said..I'm getting one!!
Can't get over the 1GB of internal storage... so no. Plus, it's not much of an upgrade without dual cores.
However, I'll be keeping a close eye on that Galaxy S2. Here's to hoping it's 4G!
htc pyramid ftw!
Is the battery bigger and will it fit in my vibrant? If so I'm just buying that.
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What happened to #neveragain?
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blackerwater said:
Is the battery bigger and will it fit in my vibrant? If so I'm just buying that.
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Yes It will fit in your vibrant
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Oxirane said:
Can't get over the 1GB of internal storage... so no. Plus, it's not much of an upgrade without dual cores.
However, I'll be keeping a close eye on that Galaxy S2. Here's to hoping it's 4G!
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It's not 1gb internal. It's 16gb and comes with 16 external micro SD card. U start with 32gb.
1gb is for apps. And I believe its like 1.8 not 1gb.
Same as ours. Only difference is the back cover, battery, ffc, and it supports 4g.
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opinions on Nexus S GTI9020T

I just saw that my local best buy is offering the nexus s for free with 2 year contract renewal. I love my aria the size is perfect and it's a great phone but with what appears to be the end of the road for cm7 and a lot of uncertainty about cm9 for the aria I was wondering what some of your opinions are about the nexus s. Things that stand out to me are that even though it has a 480x800 the phone still seems to be quite small in comparison to some of the other monsters out there the phone seems to be well supported here on xda. I know it only has 16gb of internal memory with no external sd card but that's not a deal breaker for me I have 16gb card now and am no where close to running out of space. I know the phone is older and does not have a duel processor or 4g but free is very tempting. Any ways I respect the opinion of many of you here so wanted some of your opinions.
Honestly, I wouldn't get it for the fear that it would become an obsolete device one year into your 2 year contract.
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It is a very good phone, but you would be better off waiting or getting something like the atrix 2 for 50-100 bucks. Get something dual core so you know it has a future. The nexus s would feel more like the aria in terms of performance because of the extra resolution. Not to mention, it's almost obsolete now, with the galaxy nexus taking it's place. Just my 2 cents. I would honestly get the s2 or vivid if you can get the extra money.... S2 is where I'm headed in a month.
I switched to the A2 two months ago and even stock I love it. Development has been slow with the locked bootloader but is picking up now that we have a way to dual boot. Currently all Motorola owners are banding together petitioning and media bombing the carriers and Motorola to unlock our bootloaders. It worked with HTC so I don't think it will be long.All in all it's an awesome device with a great future ahead.
Yes...it took a while for HTC to get there head out of there a$$.
Thanks for the opinions the sg2 does look like a nice phone it's just the size overall that bothers me but that seems to be the direction all the manufacturers are heading. Still undecided on what to do. I bought my aria off contract from Craigslist so if I did go with the nexus I could always sell it some point and do something like that again.
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I was actually undecided between the SGS2 and the Nexus S. The SGS2 just seemed huge, and the pixels seemed cartoon big. I ended up getting the SGS2 and one month later, I'm used to the size. Still fits in the hand or pocket, and the bigger screen is nice. I probably squint less looking at the screen too. Overall, I still think the Nexus has the nicer form factor.
But you're right, selling the Nexus when you're ready to upgrade again is a solid plan. What'd you end up doing?
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I was actually undecided between the SGS2 and the Nexus S. The SGS2 just seemed huge, and the pixels seemed cartoon big. I ended up getting the SGS2 and one month later, I'm used to the size. Still fits in the hand or pocket, and the bigger screen is nice. I probably squint less looking at the screen too. Overall, I still think the Nexus has the nicer form factor.
But you're right, selling the Nexus when you're ready to upgrade again is a solid plan. What'd you end up doing?
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Decided to hold out a little longer and see what comes out in the next couple of months. But glad to hear you adjusted to the size.
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well i guess it is really worth to wait for the sgs 3

Anyone going to Purchase the HTC One S?

I'm thinking of getting the HTC One S when tmobile starts to sell it this month. It looks like a great phone and has all the features I want. Was wondering if anyone else is thinking of getting it.
Its nothing compared to the one s though. Better of waiting for the s3 since you'll be using it for two years.
There's nothing wrong with my vib oozing iced butter and bacon right now.I recommend waiting 4 more months and get the G3 or if tmo could get the htc one X that would be a consideration
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There's nothing wrong with my vib oozing iced butter and bacon right now.I recommend waiting 4 more months and get the G3 or if tmo could get the htc one X that would be a consideration
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I beleive that the X is going to at&t while tmobile gets the S...either way im getting one
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i'll probably get one. benchmarks show the S4 dualcore outdoes the T3 quadcore chip. no need to wait around for a One X. By that time, the SGS3 should be out.
I'm actually still waiting for a device for tmobile with a true hd display.. similar to that of the current galaxy nexus. From what I understand the oneX has one but I'm not aware of any plans for it coming over to tmobile. Also personally, I'm not a fan of how the camera protrudes out the back of many htc phones.
Even though I'm quite satisfied with my vibrant running ics passion (occasional gps issues aside).. I've started to notice the lack of power while browsing and the occasional lags more and more. I used my friends galaxyS2 (att) the other day and was blown away at the speed and was left wanting more out of my phone.
I get a sense that tmobile is really dragging their heels in getting better devices. If I didn't have a serious dislike of being on mobile contracts I probably would have jumped ship already. I can live without true 4g.. fake 4g (hspa+) seems plenty fast to me... even my 3g vibrant is probably good enough for what I use the phone for.
I don't know.. just babbling...
and hoping tmobile steps up their game and offers some nicer devices.
All I want is a phone with a 4.7 HD screen, removable batt and micro sd, seems to be hard to find...nothing around the corner, still on the vibrant, nothing in sight so far...Sprint's EVO One (ONE X sprint style) looks great, but it's sprint and their data speeds are crap and no one has them so you use up anytime minutes quick...
There's a few phones I keep seeing, like LG and couple of others, but for some reason the US can't get **** for phones, like the rest of the world does, or if they do it's on att or verizon, and no, I don't want to pay 150/month for my cell phone..
I want a phone with about a 4.3" screen, flash on the camera, removable battery, and Micro SD. Preferably with that new S4 snapdragon... that things appears to be a beast. But I'm looking for a phone that devs are going to get behind. After having been in the Vibrant community, it'd be really hard to live with a phone that didn't have good dev support. I would honestly be really happy with my wife's HTC Amaze 4g if the dev support was more like the Vibrant. That phone is a beast and I can only imagine how smooth it would run with a good rom like CM9 on it. (but it's my wife's so it's staying stock LOL)
The non-removable battery and no Micro SD is a deal breaker for me. I'm also surprised to see only 16Gb of internal storage in any new phone, especially this one.
I need a phone that blows my socks off the same way my Vibrant did after it was rooted and customized. If there are any regrets I'll be seriously disappointed.
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I just want a phone whose GPS works reliably and a good DAC. I mainly use my phone for those two things. I was hoping HTC would've nailed a good DAC (as I'm aware that HTC has the best GPS rigs), but it just wasn't meant to be.
I am going to wait for a better phone. The One S just doesn't do it for me. Sure its probably better than the vibrant but if I'm going to extend my contract, which has been up for about 8 months, I'm going to need a phone that I will be happy with for the next two years. When the next generation of phones which are almost here are offering far superior specs and capabilities, it makes no sense to upgrade to a mildly better phone. T-Mobile should see that and not insult us with "little brother" phones. If I'm paying for it, plus two years on contract, I want my moneys worth. I'm a big boy and I like big boy toys.
I would have loved to get the One S, but would never consider buying a phone with only 16GB and no microSD. I can't tell you how much I want to avoid buying anything from Samsung ever again due to anger over the Vibrant GPS problems and lack of update and other support.

Would you still buy the N4 today?

Hi, i'm an Atrix owner, and my dad's phone just died, so i thought that i could buy a new phone for me and give my atrix to him. It will have more than he can use anyway.
So, i'm trying to go with the best for under $300 (unlocked). I suffered the Motorola's lack of updates with my Milestone and this Atrix, so i want a futureproof device (balanced with the price). So my first thought of course is the Nexus. If it gets 5.0 i'll be happy for another year i guess.
But i don't know what's in the market right now, so maybe i'm missing another good device for the price, or maybe the Nexus 4 is not as good as it looks. So that's why i'm asking what the title says.
Would you still buy the Nexus 4?
Thank you.
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Hi, i'm an Atrix owner, and my dad's phone just died, so i thought that i could buy a new phone for me and give my atrix to him. It will have more than he can use anyway.
So, i'm trying to go with the best for under $300 (unlocked). I suffered the Motorola's lack of updates with my Milestone and this Atrix, so i want a futureproof device (balanced with the price). So my first thought of course is the Nexus. If it gets 5.0 i'll be happy for another year i guess.
But i don't know what's in the market right now, so maybe i'm missing another good device for the price, or maybe the Nexus 4 is not as good as it looks. So that's why i'm asking what the title says.
Would you still buy the Nexus 4?
Thank you.
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I gave my old lady my old Atrix and grabbed the Nexus.
Now I'm trying to talk her in to getting one.
The price now @ $249 to performance ratio can't be beat considering you own the phone out right, no contract crap.
Get updates on day 1 release, it will get 5.0
The camera is decent enough I find...after all it's a phone.
If you don't care about the lack of a SD card and a non removable battery. Then it's def worth it
After the Atrix you'd be very happy with it.
I'd get a case for it the as it's an extremely slippery phone though.
If you're on a budget and looking for unlocked and properly priced, then yes, it's perfect. You don't get 4G LTE out of the box, and you only get it with fixes and always changing the settings back. If not having 4G LTE is fine, then yes, it's your best bet. MetroPCS and Boost are selling the SIII for $400 still. You still get a year warranty of course when you buy it from Google.
Only if I didn't already own one. Why?
1. Price/performance ratio is insane
2. Dev support is lively
3. LTE on Tmobile
4. No contract
5. Storage fits my music collection
6. Dat back
so seems buying n4 still worth it if you just want to use it for a decent purpose only, am I right ? I'm not a type of person who loves to rooted or change kernel to phone.
I did 3 days ago and its flying
I got mine the other day. Coming from a GS3, I am more then happy with the N4. Will I get an N5 when it comes up, most likely but depending on the price maybe not as soon as it is released.
My wife picked up a HTC One. Spec wise and quality build that is on the HTC One is top of the line right now but I would not take one over the N4. There is just something special about a Nexus device and it runs fantastic.
Looking at this thread i am going to say a big YES http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/nex...y-google-play-store-1642317?page=104#comments
Yep. Just bought another N4 (to replace a stolen N4) and it has been a good idea
Its the best. No doubt about it. Just go for it. I'd buy it again if I have to. Best performance with such specs at this price. Just brilliant.
I did. Am selling my Xperia Z for profit, and got an Nexus 4 for £159. Much prefer the look, feel and performance over the Sony. Love it.
For some stupid reason, it still costs Rs. 24,990 ($ 379) in india (flipkart.com). Were it not for this silly pricing, i would have bought it a long time back.
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Yes, I would for sure.
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I would but just because of the value. For $200-$300 you get a great unlocked phone. It isn't the best phone but it definitely is for the price range. It definitely does have it quirks though. For one I hate the fact that I am limited to 16gb of storage as there is no SD Card slot. Google however has great cloud based apps so you really don't need 64gb. For me, I have 30+ GB of music and its all on the cloud with Google play. Even when your offline you still have access you your music though because the app very conveniently caches songs periodically to keep some stored locally (I have about 2gb local). The screen is not full 1080p which is becoming the norm now and not to forget the phone has horrible color calibration, which can be fixes with a custom kernel. The phones battery life also isn't the greatest... As a pretty heavy user I probably would have to charge it at least once throughout the day. The camera also is pretty crappy and so is the speaker.
Bottom line. The phone is definitely worth every cent but it does have its issue. There are plenty of phones better than it but they're all $600+ phones. So yes even today, I would say to Stoll get it for the value
I definently would,
given there has just been a price drop of 100$ on both versions!
Now there is really no way to beat the price.
Take the 8 gb version for example and look at other models in the same price range.
You see things like the Samsung Young, which really are no match at all for the Nexus 4!
Try and name 1 device for under 400$ that is better, I think you will have a hard time.
And now the Nexus is only half of that!
I just ordered mine last week when the price dropped. I have been using the Galaxy Nexus for the last year and will likely never purchase another non-Nexus device ever again.
For me, it was all about value. As others have mentioned - it is pretty hard to beat the current 199/249 price point that these are available at right now. I had originally planned on holding off until the N5 was released but simply couldn't pass up this deal.
Now just anxiously waiting for it to arrive!
I just did - a few days ago. I was never happier. :cyclops:
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I definently would,
given there has just been a price drop of 100$ on both versions!
Now there is really no way to beat the price.
Take the 8 gb version for example and look at other models in the same price range.
You see things like the Samsung Young, which really are no match at all for the Nexus 4!
Try and name 1 device for under 400$ that is better, I think you will have a hard time.
And now the Nexus is only half of that!
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hell yes. And here in Europe is not just a 100$ drop, its a 100€. Finally the 1€-1$ thing is on our side
I would die to the damn price.
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i would go as far as to say that I even would not be able to recommend any other phone after the price dropped last week

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