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The "Nobody knows what the hell's going on with the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab," saga continues today (see Part 1 and Part 2, Part 3) with the latest news now being that Samsung has no intentions of delivering a "Value Pack" upgrade. According to a Samsung source who spoke to The Next Web:
Samsung "will not offer the update due to the hardware specifications of the older Galaxy devices, in that they are limited to and fully optimised for the Gingerbread experience."
That'll likely frustrate some Galaxy S owners but realistically, it's not in anyway surprising. As for the Galaxy Tab, while it's not mentioned specifically -- it's safe to assume that's lumped in there as well. Luckily, there is plenty of custom ROM's floating around to keep you busy if you're that upset over the matter. guess were never getting ics for epichttp://www.androidcentral.com/no-samsung-ics-value-pack-coming

jwolf1 said:
The "Nobody knows what the hell's going on with the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab," saga continues today (see Part 1 and Part 2, Part 3) with the latest news now being that Samsung has no intentions of delivering a "Value Pack" upgrade. According to a Samsung source who spoke to The Next Web:
Samsung "will not offer the update due to the hardware specifications of the older Galaxy devices, in that they are limited to and fully optimised for the Gingerbread experience."
That'll likely frustrate some Galaxy S owners but realistically, it's not in anyway surprising. As for the Galaxy Tab, while it's not mentioned specifically -- it's safe to assume that's lumped in there as well. Luckily, there is plenty of custom ROM's floating around to keep you busy if you're that upset over the matter. guess were never getting ics for epichttp://www.androidcentral.com/no-samsung-ics-value-pack-coming
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401778

Any chance we can kind of lump all these "we're getting it/ we're not getting it" threads into one?

Samsung needs a foot far up their ass this time. I know we'll get cm9, and I know we've already gotten several updates, but this update obviously has enough user demand and Samsung is straight up LYING to the public about why they won't update the gs1...
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Dude they are ALWAYS changing idea concerning the galaxy S and updates. If it's like with gingerbread and froyo you'll get it, but you will be going to have to wait like 6 months.

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Froyo Status Update - Can anyone read Korean?

http://www.androidcentral.com/leaked-e-mail-points-successful-froyo-testing-samsung-galaxy-s
http://forum.androidcentral.com/verizon-fascinate/39361-froyo-just-around-corner.html
This looks promising. Everyone would like a translation though.
Korean is my native language.
Summary:
The email says that the Froyo tests on Galaxy s phones have been completed.
And then it says there is no problem with sending out Galaxy S phones shipped with Froyo.
The attached photo there shows the test results for reference.
Updates will follow...
So, it looks like as of Sep 27, Froyo has been ready to be released to Galaxy S phones.
I would assume that Sprint likely has the update at this point. No doubt they'll take some time to add/test their bloatware. Here's hoping we see a leak soon.
i am waiting for a leak
You realize, of course, there's a difference between the international Galaxy S (that this most likely applies to) and the US variants (that it most likely does not). Not to mention there are differences BETWEEN the US variants themselves. I wouldn't take any document concerning a Galaxy S phone to be applicable unless it names the Epic or at least mentions CDMA somewhere.
kab0b0 said:
You realize, of course, there's a difference between the international Galaxy S (that this most likely applies to) and the US variants (that it most likely does not). Not to mention there are differences BETWEEN the US variants themselves. I wouldn't take any document concerning a Galaxy S phone to be applicable unless it names the Epic or at least mentions CDMA somewhere.
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Yes. It would still be a fair assumption that our build's development would not be far behind if not in lockstep with the build mentioned in the email. It would look very bad to have half of the Galaxy S phones running 2.2 while the others remained on 2.1. Samsung has done worse things though.
I'm thinking they wouldn't care too much about having the I9000 updated for a while before any of the US versions considering it was released a few months before any of them. I do agree that the Vibrant and possibly the Captivate will most likely see their Froyo release within a month of the I9000, but I'm thinking we won't see any action until a bit after that due to our CDMA radio.
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I'm thinking they wouldn't care too much about having the I9000 updated for a while before any of the US versions considering it was released a few months before any of them. I do agree that the Vibrant and possibly the Captivate will most likely see their Froyo release within a month of the I9000, but I'm thinking we won't see any action until a bit after that due to our CDMA radio.
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CDMA has been natively supported in Android since 1.6, so I'm really hoping that doesn't become the case. There just wouldn't be an excuse for it and would be terribly bad form on Samsung's part.
EDIT: One thing that I thought Samsung did very well was, while making the phone available on virtually every major carrier, keeping the 'Galaxy S' branding on them all. I think that the update becoming available at different times for each carrier would serve only to confuse the consumer and really hurt the brand. Hurting the brand would not be smart while they simultaneously launch the Galaxy Tab. That's just my two cents though.
If anything they should hoard the updates until they're all done, and then release them all at once. Perhaps that's what they're doing and how the Captivate's leaked build originated. </speculation>
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If anything they should hoard the updates until they're all done, and then release them all at once. Perhaps that's what they're doing and how the Captivate's leaked build originated. </speculation>
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I read that Samsung is trying to update all Galaxy S (worldwide) at the same time. However, the actual time in US will be determined by the carrier.
acegolfer said:
I read that Samsung is trying to update all Galaxy S (worldwide) at the same time. However, the actual time in US will be determined by the carrier.
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If you could point me to your source on that, I would appreciate it.
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If you could point me to your source on that, I would appreciate it.
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I don't remember exactly where so I googled it. This one is pretty close.
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/10/06/samsung-galaxy-s-update-on-android-2-2-froyo-release-date/
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I don't remember exactly where so I googled it. This one is pretty close.
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/10/06/samsung-galaxy-s-update-on-android-2-2-froyo-release-date/
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That mentions only the UK carriers, but it wouldn't make any sense for their US strategy to be any different. Thanks.
this is normal for palm phones on sprint att and verizon
has been 2 weeks since 27 Sept. No official news from Samsung.
If the email refers to JPK, then I'm very worry, because it simply won't work with Exchange.
Well, this news and including the fact that they are releasing the Samsung Galaxy 551, a Samsung with slide-out keyboard, in Europe with Froyo in November:
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/06/low-end-samsung-galaxy-551-goes-official-for-389-euros/
Probably a good sign we'll be getting our Froyo in November?
crajee16 said:
Well, this news and including the fact that they are releasing the Samsung Galaxy 551, a Samsung with slide-out keyboard, in Europe with Froyo in November:
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/06/low-end-samsung-galaxy-551-goes-official-for-389-euros/
Probably a good sign we'll be getting our Froyo in November?
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Those renders definitely look like TouchWiz 3 as well. Thanks for the info.
illogic6, you are correct sir. Well, according to this link I found below.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/10/samsung_galaxy_551_is_now_official.html
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Well, this news and including the fact that they are releasing the Samsung Galaxy 551, a Samsung with slide-out keyboard, in Europe with Froyo in November:
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/06/low-end-samsung-galaxy-551-goes-official-for-389-euros/
Probably a good sign we'll be getting our Froyo in November?
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Thanks.
FYI, this phone has no relationship to Galaxy S line. There are many Samsung Galaxy lines: A, S, U, etc. They all have different hardware.
One good sign is that they got Touch Wiz 3 in landscape mode.
I have a concern regarding future update. I recently read an article about a Samsung Galaxy K phone coming to Korean with 2.2. I'm just curious how long do you think Samsung with support the current Galaxy S platform? Or is this Galaxy K going to replace the Galaxy S phone and Samsung will drop support for the Galaxy S? Will we even get 3.0? Samsung promised 2.2 by the end of the year but never said anything about 3.0. Anyone?
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I have a concern regarding future update. I recently read an article about a Samsung Galaxy K phone coming to Korean with 2.2. I'm just curious how long do you think Samsung with support the current Galaxy S platform? Or is this Galaxy K going to replace the Galaxy S phone and Samsung will drop support for the Galaxy S? Will we even get 3.0? Samsung promised 2.2 by the end of the year but never said anything about 3.0. Anyone?
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Just read about Galaxy K. It's a lower spec than S series but with 2.2.
Samsung can't promise 3.0 because nobody has seen it. No manufacture has promised 3.0 yet. There are rumors about 3.0 requirement and if it's true Galaxy S satisfies it.
If Samsung can't deliver 3.0, I'm sure the dev team will. That's why I have bought Epic over Transform.

ICS for Note confirmed

Soothing
http://android.hdblog.it/2011/10/28/samsung-italia-conferma-android-4-0-su-galaxy-s2-note-e-tab-nel-2012/
Thank god, thanks to this i'll order one!
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Soothing
http://android.hdblog.it/2011/10/28/samsung-italia-conferma-android-4-0-su-galaxy-s2-note-e-tab-nel-2012/
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I don't think there was any doubt of this, but it's nice to have a rough guess of when we'll get it.
There will be custom roms in the meantime but I suspect we'll lose a lot of stylus support.
- Frank
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Soothing
http://android.hdblog.it/2011/10/28/samsung-italia-conferma-android-4-0-su-galaxy-s2-note-e-tab-nel-2012/
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Great newsI just like mine arrive
ChodTheWacko said:
I don't think there was any doubt of this, but it's nice to have a rough guess of when we'll get it.
There will be custom roms in the meantime but I suspect we'll lose a lot of stylus support.
- Frank
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Pretty sure I read somewhere that ICS has alot of native stylus support. But for S-Pen apps then yeah...
methree said:
Pretty sure I read somewhere that ICS has alot of native stylus support. But for S-Pen apps then yeah...
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Yes, ICS has support for Pressure Sensitive screens.
I don't understand why everyone thinks the Note will get ICS.
Its just some blog that says so...
They even have edited their post now:
Update : is not official confirmation from Samsung Korea (the only one who can give the full official) but is "a hypothesis" for the next updates. Only Samsung Korea will confirm the roadmap of aggironamenti.
I say, the Note does not get an Official ICS...
Its far more logical that the Note II will get ICS.
NO confirmation, nowhere. Stop fooling yourself.
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I don't understand why everyone thinks the Note will get ICS.
Its just some blog that says so...
They even have edited their post now:
Update : is not official confirmation from Samsung Korea (the only one who can give the full official) but is "a hypothesis" for the next updates. Only Samsung Korea will confirm the roadmap of aggironamenti.
I say, the Note does not get an Official ICS...
Its far more logical that the Note II will get ICS.
NO confirmation, nowhere. Stop fooling yourself.
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Why are you so negative about ICS? Secondly, note is a brand new device. Almost all devices from past 6 months must get an upgrade to ICS.
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Why are you so negative about ICS? Secondly, note is a brand new device. Almost all devices from past 6 months must get an upgrade to ICS.
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I am not negative about ICS. I would like ICS.
Its just not likely the Note will get ICS, and NOWHERE Samsung did say the Note will get ICS.
Its just some blog (looking for some extra visitors I guess), hearsay and such, and everyone thinks its going to happen.
Wait for an official Samsung announcement, than talk about "its confirmed".
And why "Almost all devices from past 6 months must get an upgrade to ICS" ??
Wishful thinking maybe?
Because otherwise it's bad PR. Android devices which are at least six months old have always been updated.
Think about what Samsung needs to do if they put ICS on this Note.
They spend a lot of money on marketing the Note, and its just about to get released...
If they would put ICS on this Note, they either have to revise all the marketing material, or recreate the exact same software on ICS, including launcher etc.
Even the Italian blog mentions second quarter 2012 as a date for a possible Note update to ICS.
By that time the market is also ready for a Note II with ICS 4.5
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Think about what Samsung needs to do if they put ICS on this Note.
They spend a lot of money on marketing the Note, and its just about to get released...
If they would put ICS on this Note, they either have to revise all the marketing material, or recreate the exact same software on ICS, including launcher etc.
Even the Italian blog mentions second quarter 2012 as a date for a possible Note update to ICS.
By that time the market is also ready for a Note II with ICS 4.5
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If they don't update to ICS, Samsung will have a lot of negative media about not supporting there brand new flagship devices. Which will result in a lot more of a loss than the gain. Plus they have to update TW to ICS anyway, they might as well put a bit of more effort and make it work for Note. And ICS can act as an incentive for newer purchases, people always like forward to buy newest Android OS. Galaxy S2 came out and still they are providing updates for Galaxy, why do you think that happens?
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If they don't update to ICS, Samsung will have a lot of negative media about not supporting there brand new flagship devices. Which will result in a lot more of a loss than the gain. Plus they have to update TW to ICS anyway, they might as well put a bit of more effort and make it work for Note. And ICS can act as an incentive for newer purchases, people always like forward to buy newest Android OS. Galaxy S2 came out and still they are providing updates for Galaxy, why do you think that happens?
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We will see.
But there is no official announcement or confirmation from Samsung that they will update the Note to ICS. Its just a blog, and they already had an "update" in their post, they are not so sure anymore.
So the title of this post is wrong.
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I am not negative about ICS. I would like ICS.
Its just not likely the Note will get ICS, and NOWHERE Samsung did say the Note will get ICS.
Its just some blog (looking for some extra visitors I guess), hearsay and such, and everyone thinks its going to happen.
Wait for an official Samsung announcement, than talk about "its confirmed".
And why "Almost all devices from past 6 months must get an upgrade to ICS" ??
Wishful thinking maybe?
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As I said in another thread, it would be a PR disaster for Samsung to come out with a phone at the same time they issue ICS and not provide an upgrade path.. At thIs point I think you're speculating yourself, and you need to sit and wait like the rest of us and see what happens. My bet is you are very wrong.
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I hope I am wrong.
But you agree there is no confirmation to be found, right ?
(And the rest is speculating)
Google requires all manufacturers to deliver updates for at least 6 months for all new devices.
So ICS should come to the Note.
pub00515 said:
Google requires all manufacturers to deliver updates for at least 6 months for all new devices.
So ICS should come to the Note.
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Yes. In this case Gingerbread updates. 2.3.x updates.
i am pretty sure given the way samsung has been working these days.
However i dont have any confirmation.
actually, Google said 18 months. I am quite certain that ICS will land on any Galaxy S2 and after device. PR disaster. I mean look at the other KOrean maker, LG, they are not exactly doing great.
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Yes. In this case Gingerbread updates. 2.3.x updates.
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You clearly dont know what the hell you are talking about here!
Google wants that all manufactures update to ICS because of fragmentation. Google will update once a year like Apple!
The Note II maybe not coming at all if this thing does not sell. So they will update this Note to ICS. Every new phone you buy from Sammy will get 18 months of Support So that means ICS will come to the Note!
Mark my words ! Of Course they will not confirm this this quick because of the galaxy Nexus. It will interfear the sales of that phone!

Official ICS slated for a Q1 2012 release !

Samsung has cemented its plans for the roll-out of Ice Cream Sandwich, and it looks likely to land on most of its top drawer Android devices. This (unsurprisingly) includes the Galaxy S II, its LTE variant, the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy R and whole range of Samsung tabs, from the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus to the Galaxy Tab 10.1. The update is penned to arrive first on both the Galaxy S II and Note in Q1 2012, with other devices following, although the Korean giant says that separate announcements will be made on the finer points -- depending on the "market situation and carriers' requirements". Source: Engadget
I for one, cannot wait for this - BUT to be honest, I am actually looking forward for a pure AOSP ROM of ICS on the Tab 10.1
jackie_jagger said:
Samsung has cemented its plans for the roll-out of Ice Cream Sandwich, and it looks likely to land on most of its top drawer Android devices. This (unsurprisingly) includes the Galaxy S II, its LTE variant, the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy R and whole range of Samsung tabs, from the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus to the Galaxy Tab 10.1. The update is penned to arrive first on both the Galaxy S II and Note in Q1 2012, with other devices following, although the Korean giant says that separate announcements will be made on the finer points -- depending on the "market situation and carriers' requirements". Source: Engadget
I for one, cannot wait for this - BUT to be honest, I am actually looking forward for a pure AOSP ROM of ICS on the Tab 10.1
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From what they've implied, Touchwiz will mainly be support software for better hardware. It will fade as a UI.
waiting for it badly
I hope they roll out OTA a bit quicker than they've managed with 3.2.. Sure, we are many who know how to download a release to flash with odin, but that's still kind of a bother compared to just accepting an OTA ;-)
Honestly, with CM9 coming to the GT10.1, I really don't care about what Samsung is pushing (except, of course, the improvements it may bring to custom ROMs...).
As someone who owned two Samsung supported phones before my Nexus S (Moment and Epic 4G) how is Samsung with tablet support? My experience with them for phone support is that they have no clue what they are doing with software, always late with deadlines, and what they do send out is lackluster. Hence I grabbed a Nexus S since Google supports that.. I took a gamble with the tab..
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As someone who owned two Samsung supported phones before my Nexus S (Moment and Epic 4G) how is Samsung with tablet support? My experience with them for phone support is that they have no clue what they are doing with software, always late with deadlines, and what they do send out is lackluster. Hence I grabbed a Nexus S since Google supports that.. I took a gamble with the tab..
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They're getting the hang of the software thing, but they also add quite a bit of good stuff to their devices that you can't see. (codecs, drivers, etc...)
Hopefully what that guy ^ said is true and they don't focus on the UI at all this time.
So we will be getting ics after march as galaxy s2 and galaxy note will get it the first 3 months and only after that to the other devices ie galaxy tab
So my bet is still with cm9
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slack04 said:
Honestly, with CM9 coming to the GT10.1, I really don't care about what Samsung is pushing (except, of course, the improvements it may bring to custom ROMs...).
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I am completely with you on this one ! I am more excited about the AOSP ROM rather than the Samsung TouchWiz stuff !
Well the promise is up to q1 let see...
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slack04 said:
Honestly, with CM9 coming to the GT10.1, I really don't care about what Samsung is pushing (except, of course, the improvements it may bring to custom ROMs...).
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I would agree. We all know that wee gonna be running custom roms on it anyway.
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Well the promise is up to q1 let see...
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I'm with you here. The support on the Galaxy S I had was lackluster, if it wasn't for custom roms I never would have kept that phone long.
Im waiting for the ICS ROMS for our tabs. I just got a beta ICS on my Mytouch and I'm in love.

Samsung announced ICS update in Korea, but only for newer phones.

Samsung just officially announced that there will be no ICS update for various android based phone from Samsung EXCEPT GS2, GS2 LTE, GS2 HD, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Galaxy Tab 8.9.
Samsung also said that GS1 specially optimized for Gingerbread, so they can not update GS1 to ICS.
Some Korean users are in rage due to the fact that GS1 is strong enough for ICS.
And rightly so. no one's buying that, ever. Not only google got it running on nexus s which is pretty much the same phone as we all seen ports running great.
If they don't want to update an old phone its their prerogative but at least be honest about it.
Edit: just realized they never said sgs wasn't powerful enough, they just won't update it. I can understand the raging but can't help it if they aren't willing to do it...
I will never buy samsung phone again
why do not update galaxy s to ICS with have as more spec with Nexus S
Official? Source?
Besides that:
Nexus S = Google
Galaxy S = Samsung
It's in Korean. I will post a new post with translation.
Pretty much rules out any chance of us getting the update ever.
If I had to guess, I'd say it's because of the retarded filesystem Samsung locked stock users into. Regardless, it's a ****ty move by Samsung nontheless.
lascoul said:
why do not update galaxy s to ICS with have as more spec with Nexus S
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Because then you wouldn't buy a new phone. I suspect the file system was also a way for them to force you into buying a new phone. Planned obsolescence.
You have to wonder though, Samsung release a few phones with similar/lower specs to our phone such as the SGS+, and the Galaxy W, and their releases haven't had one year behind them. Will they really not update them?

Samsung has no plans to deliver ‘Value Pack’ for Galaxy S smartphones

Rumours that have suggested Samsung is working on delivering an Android ‘Value Pack’ update for Galaxy S smartphones have been dealt a blow after The Next Web was informed that there are no plans for its release.
At the end of December, Samsung explained that memory issues on the Galaxy range stopped the company from delivering an update for its older smartphones. The TouchWiz interface and Samsung Widgets were said to be unreliable on the ageing handset, helping Samsung make the decision not to update the Galaxy S.
Just a day later, it was reported that Samsung was reconsidering its decision not release an Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) update for the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab, and was apparently readying a “Value Pack” that could deliver new features without a full rollout of the new Android software.
However, a Samsung spokesperson has said that the company will not offer the update due to the hardware specifications of the older Galaxy devices, in that they are limited to and fully optimised for the Gingerbread experience.
The news will frustrate Galaxy S owners that had gotten their hopes up following recent reports, with many still on a two-year contract, they were hoping to see new features on the device. That said, Samsung has begun to roll out Ice Cream Sandwich updates for the Galaxy S II and is working to deliver upgrades for the Galaxy Note and its newer Galaxy Tab models.
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I wonder why after 4 hours nobody has answered yet.
Well, actually everything is said in other threads.
But to sum up, every other manufacturer would do the same.
So hopefully something will change in half a year when i sign a new phone contract.
I am not sure it will be a Samsung again, but after this time, the Galaxy Nexus could be a little bit too old :/
Another useless complain thread... Please check the sticked thread on this and close this one
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I wonder why after 4 hours nobody has answered yet.
Well, actually everything is said in other threads.
But to sum up, every other manufacturer would do the same.
So hopefully something will change in half a year when i sign a new phone contract.
I am not sure it will be a Samsung again, but after this time, the Galaxy Nexus could be a little bit too old :/
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The galaxy nexus will never be to old. Haha it just came out and Android will update for at least 2 more years. Look how many updates the nexus one got and use that info to predict how many the GS will get.
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never is kinda exaggerated
since i'm getting a new phone in October 2012 it will be old^^ (for the development's sake)
true ... )))
Another useless flame made by person who is not able to read stickies, but managed to spam the forum...
http://www.androidcentral.com/no-samsung-ics-value-pack-coming
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